/sffg/ Science Fiction & Fantasy Genera

[Anonymous No.14702882]

Wondrous Space Edition
What's the worst way you've seen a book end?

Group Reading For February
Small Gods - Terry Pratchett
Chateau Cascade - Dusty Ridgeman
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What does /sffg/ think about [book]?
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Charts
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Resources
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Threads
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[Anonymous No.14702887]

[Anonymous No.14702901]

I just finished God Emperor of Dune, and I think it may be my favourite so far. I'm still waiting for this series to get bad - about to start Heretics. What am I in for lads?

[Anonymous No.14702903]

Penultimate

[Anonymous No.14702979]

>>14702901
for me, the series gets unreadable without a Dune-wiki open on your phone or computer. The world is very interesting, but so complex and hard to penetrate even if you've read all the previous novels.

[Anonymous No.14703024]

Do the Books of Babel belong here?

[Anonymous No.14703034]

>>14702882
I've been really wanting to read some Conan but I've been having trouble figuring out where to start, is there a recommended list somewhere or should I just start at the beginning?

[Anonymous No.14703045]

Any fantasy that feature the concept of the worm that walks?

[Anonymous No.14703067]

how goes the reading?

[Anonymous No.14703139]

>>14703034

[Anonymous No.14703274]

>>14702901
straight shota or maybe that's the next one I can't remember now

[Anonymous No.14703528]

Just let sffg die. People don't read, and just repeat recommend the same books ad nauseam.
We have been infiltrated and nothing we do will get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.14703587]

>>14703139
Thanks my guy.

[Anonymous No.14703730]

>>14703528
Defeatiats such as yourself are a blight upon the world.

[Anonymous No.14703760]

Reading through the classics I have been putting off, recently been through the hard scifi (Asimov, Dick, Clarke etc) and had enough of that for now. For a change of pace I finally read 1984 and liked it so I stayed on that track; what are the great 20th century scifi-ish dystopian standalones I'm missing? So far I have read and enjoyed all of 1984, Brave New World, Slaughterhouse 5, Canticle for Liebowitz and Farenheit 451. Where to from here?

[Anonymous No.14703778]

>>14703760
Kallocain?

[Anonymous No.14703824]

>>14703778
I have somehow never heard of this, looks interesting. Is the translation good enough?

[Anonymous No.14703825]

>>14703730
How can one man fight against ten thousand?
This isn't a wuxia novel, It's real life. You think you can defeat the infestation that is taking us and 4chan of it self over?

[Anonymous No.14703919]

>>14703760

ANDROIDS ELEKREIC SHEEP YOU BOMO

[Anonymous No.14703926]

>>14703919
Already read, as stated in my post.

>>14703067
I enjoyed Viriconium, anyone read Harrison's scifi, Light and such?

[Anonymous No.14704001]

>>14703824
I can't say, I read it in the original language. It's a pretty good book, but the ending could have been a bit more impactful. It's more about the social dynamic, both how it's affected by a totalitarian state and how it's a tool of the state. Shame and pride and such.

[Anonymous No.14704043]

>>14703274
Is it true there is repeated worm rape in the Dune novels? I am trying to imagine the mechanics of that

[Anonymous No.14704121]

>>14702882
>What's the worst way you've seen a book end?
Blood Music, Schild's Ladder, anything else that pulls that shit. Side eye at you, Death's End.

That or The Mote in God's Eye.

Pic unrelated, disqualified because the the book didn't deserve a better ending.

[Anonymous No.14704140]

>>14704121
what was wrong with Mote's ending? I thought it was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.14704153]

what are the chances that shallan will still be a virgin by the beginning of the next book
i needs to know

[Anonymous No.14704321]

>>14704121
What's wrong with the ending for Blood Music??

[Anonymous No.14704323]

>>14703528
I found out about this general last year, it gave me great recommendations.

I'm currently finishing BOtNS thanks to sffg, just for that it's worth to keep going

[Anonymous No.14704410]

>>14703825
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14704485]

>>14704153
>i needs to know
>needs

>>>/reddit/
>>>/furaffinity/

[Anonymous No.14704501]

>>14704153
This isn't /aco/, degenerate.

[Anonymous No.14704514]

>>14704323
It has been going for 5+ years, and I've been here from the beginning. It's like watching your mother be raped continuously in all holes, until everything gapes. She is never the same again.

[Anonymous No.14704519]

>>14704410
Okay Mr. One Man Army. Save us, cleanse the infestation and get the gril.

[Anonymous No.14704615]

>>14704121
Yeah, mote in gods eye ends terribly.
Also not a fan of the ending of The Diamond Age, really shits the bed in a big bad way

[Anonymous No.14704656]

>>14704615
>Yeah, mote in gods eye ends terribly.
I was mostly bothered by the supposed superiority of motie warmaking ability. There's just no way they would beat an interstellar civilization from a single system that by all rights should be stripped of most rare metals. And sure their infantry runs fast, but not supersonic missile fast, or even fast enough to keep up with the sort of automatic targeting gear we can build today.

[Anonymous No.14704657]

>>14704519
Go be a loser up the block.

[Anonymous No.14704699]

>>14702903
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[Anonymous No.14704708]

>>14703528
Infiltrated by whom?

[Anonymous No.14704717]

>>14703528
I recommend other books but yeah. All of 4ch is like this. Other boards also present groupthink as truth.

[Anonymous No.14704720]

>>14704708
By (((them)))

[Anonymous No.14704724]

>>14704708
Clearly he's wrong.
Infiltration means that it's a covert operation, at least initially.

[Anonymous No.14704730]

>>14704717
What's funny, is that the same books that were recommended years ago and laughed at, are now being recommended and accepted. I don't know what the fuck is going on.

[Anonymous No.14704737]

>>14704717
>groupthink as truth.
This isn't reddit, you can clearly go against the majority and be noticed, you'll just be called a faggot. If you're too thin-skinned for that maybe this isn't the site for you.

[Anonymous No.14704741]

>>14704724
>damage control
Good job comrade, your contribution has been deposited.

[Anonymous No.14704743]

>>14704717
The "groupthink" is simply a few people spamming to create a false consensus.

[Anonymous No.14704748]

>>14703528
>People don't read
People (here) don't read NEW stuff, because it's pozzed shit. Old authors are great, even female one.

[Anonymous No.14704762]

>even female ones
Uh no

[Anonymous No.14704809]

>>14704762
Female authors before the 80s/70s were surprisingly based

[Anonymous No.14704816]

>>14704748
Pozzed = having fully developed female characters (unlike older authors)

[Anonymous No.14704827]

>>14704816
Dial 8

[Anonymous No.14704831]

>>14704816
>Fully developed female characters
The fuck does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.14704860]

Anyone got that pic? It's 2 spaceships outside of a window, they look like a mix between a star destroyer and the nebulon b. And iirc there's a cat in the room.

[Anonymous No.14704862]

>>14704831
Ignore him, he is here to stir the pot, probably a discord tranny (there is one assigned to each board, one already caused the death of a r9k robot)

[Anonymous No.14704956]

>>14704831
It means a female character who has agency, has their sexuality acknowledged in a healthy way, isn't simply an award for the protagonist and doesn't fall into stock archetypes (helpleas princess, submissive priestess, guy with tits, evil horny sorceress etc.)

[Anonymous No.14704970]

If you guys read for 3+ hours right before sleeping, do you dream about the book? Happens everytime.

[Anonymous No.14704998]

>>14704970
Nope

[Anonymous No.14705178]

>>14704831
>The fuck does this even mean?
You don't understand what fully developed means? Nigga is you stupid?

[Anonymous No.14705188]

>>14704970
I find that furious masturbating before going to sleep is a far better use of my time.

[Anonymous No.14705200]

>>14705188
Drinking also helps a man sleep

[Anonymous No.14705206]

>>14705200
>checked

[Anonymous No.14705221]

>>14705200
A patrician lifestyle choice if I ever saw one.
Dubs confirm.

[Anonymous No.14705235]

>>14705221
that picture is really fucking faggy

[Anonymous No.14705240]

>>14705235
I guess you are the fag expert.

[Anonymous No.14705248]

What is some good medieval fantasy with characters that actually act like they live in a medieval society?

[Anonymous No.14705382]

Thoughts on the following series?

Long Price Quartet
The Bone Ships
Raven's Mark trilogy

[Anonymous No.14705392]

>>14704970
I have never read for even close to that long in my life. My all time record is probably around 1 hour 20 minutes or something, but usually I'm around 30 minutes per session at most.

[Anonymous No.14705404]

>>14705382
So the most bland, boring and run of the mill fantasy series?
It's not that you have shit taste anon, it's like you lack taste altogether.

[Anonymous No.14705436]

>>14705392
Really? Sometimes I read up to 8-10 hours straight if I really like the book. That's probably why I fucking dream so much about them. It's probably not healthy.

[Anonymous No.14705439]

>>14705404
I haven't read those, I'm considering them. What didn't you like about them? Though I suppose you're not capable of answering this since you sound like one of those people who haven't actually read the books they shitpost about.

[Anonymous No.14705470]

>>14705439
Oh you are going to read them. I know that, you know that. You can't help yourself.
You are going to read that bland, regurgitated shit and you will ask for more of the same badly written, formulaic and interchangeable fantasy.
And, of course, act all indignant when someone points out the obvious.

[Anonymous No.14705617]

please tell me someone knows a story like Alice in wonderland for adults but still has a sense of humor and wonder

i asked on reddit but got a barrage of shitty recommendations that didn't listen to me

NOTE: HUMOR IS MANDATORY!
NOTE: A WONDERLAND IS MANDATORY!
NOTE: NARNIA IS NOT A FUCKING WONDERLAND!

[Anonymous No.14705660]

>>14705617
What even is a wonderland?

[Anonymous No.14705720]

>>14705660
a wonderland is a fantasy world that is strange beyond the standard fantasy tropes.

a fox talking is fantasy
a trash can talking is wonderland

a castle floating by magic is fantasy
a castle floating by hot air baloons is wonderland

[Anonymous No.14705726]

>>14705617
Comedy xianxia

[Anonymous No.14705761]

>>14705617
Mindswap by Sheckley if you're open to a SciFi interpretation of a wonderland.

[Anonymous No.14705802]

>>14704956
Why should female characters not fall into stock archetypes? Would you not agree that most women fall into these archetypes? Why should ordinary women not be represented in fiction?

[Anonymous No.14705822]

>>14705404
>>14705470
Imagine being this incensed at someone asking for recommendations.

[Anonymous No.14705894]

Was Niven trying to redpill us with the Puppeteers?

[Anonymous No.14705920]

>>14704043
It explicitly says several times that he cant have sex and probably doesn't have a dick.

[Anonymous No.14705926]

>>14704970
>If you guys read for 3+ hours
>>14705392
>I have never read for even close to that long in my life.
And yet they deny that we aren't infiltrated by non reading, book skimmers with an agenda that repeat the same shit constantly.

[Anonymous No.14705941]

>>14705720
Nigga that's retarded beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.14705951]

>>14705941
I dont care what you think, i want titles

[Anonymous No.14705952]

>>14705822
I don't get why are you getting mad at me for your shit taste (or lack thereof).
Just get better taste bro.

[Anonymous No.14705954]

>>14705382
>Long Price Quartet

[Anonymous No.14705965]

>>14705951
There are no titles. Your retardation is too rare.

[Anonymous No.14705979]

>>14705954
That chart of yours is bad, like real bad.

[Anonymous No.14705996]

>>14705979
It's meant to be. It's a list of bad books to avoid.

[Anonymous No.14706019]

>>14705996
But there are some good books on there. The Lies of Locke Lamora was alright fro an analphabetic like me.

[Anonymous No.14706033]

>>14705941
>i dont know what a wonderland is
>therefore you are retarded

bravo 4chan, your degree of inbreeding never cease to amaze me

[Anonymous No.14706040]

>>14705952
It's amazing to me that you have this ability to know whether a total stranger will enjoy a book he hasn't read yet, and yet you are willing to provide us with this service for free. Surely you know that the major publishers' marketing departments would give anything to have you on board.

[Anonymous No.14706054]

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[Anonymous No.14706104]

>>14704121
>Schild's Ladder
I feel better knowing someone else suffered through it

[Anonymous No.14706127]

>>14703926
Light is superb. Too bad he went with different direction in Nova Swing.

[Anonymous No.14706156]

Finished Conan, shit was lit. Starting the Elric of Melniboné sagas. Sword and sorcery may be my favorite genre yet.

[Anonymous No.14706204]

>>14706019
I bet you loved the cussing too.

[Anonymous No.14706220]

>>14706156
Don't forget to go to /fa/ and /fit/ when you're done. Like the true faggot you are.

[Anonymous No.14706242]

Kinos like this?

[Anonymous No.14706261]

>>14706242
That is the early version of litrpg.

[Anonymous No.14706326]

>tfw a jealous cuck damaged and crippled my cultivation because I was rising too far too fast
>now I'm broken and in my mother's basement shitposting on the internet with no hope of advancing again
Life sucks.

[Anonymous No.14706328]

>>14706261

Yeah, but it's before all of the shitty things of litrpg came along.

[Anonymous No.14706364]

>>14703024
Yes. They’re good.

[Anonymous No.14706377]

>>14704514
So why don’t you just leave, then? Sounds like you’re the one with the problem.

[Anonymous No.14706388]

>>14706377
>implying anyone can leave
When you leave I will.

[Anonymous No.14706394]

>>14706388
But I’m happy.

[Anonymous No.14706445]

People are paying for this shit now.

[Anonymous No.14706470]

>>14706445
I have no idea what that is. Should I?

[Anonymous No.14706482]

>>14702882
I just finished the lies of locke lamora and really enjoyed the first 4/5ths of it, I felt that the ending was really rushed
are the other books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.14706494]

>>14706242
have you read all the other Acts of Caine books?

[Anonymous No.14706506]

>>14706445
2020 is the year of the end. Corporations have finally found out how to use the internet.
All the shit that used to be done for free by fan translators are being shutdown and viz and others are taking the market.
Hell, some torrent clients want you to pay to use them, or "unlock" pro features. And you better believe some cuck is doing it.
And to top it all off we are living in some brave new world / 1984 dystopian shit. Where we get double speak to and shit taken from you. Just let WWIII bring in the eventual apocalypse early.

[Anonymous No.14706521]

>>14706445
Just read somewhere else like boxnovel

[Anonymous No.14706542]

>>14702882
I'm currently reading Neuromancer and it's really good so far. For some reason, I thought the cyberpunk genre would be cheesy, but I was wrong.

[Anonymous No.14706543]

I am finding it increasingly difficult to read stories where the protag's plotline collapses into their nadir.

I don't want to feel bad in my escapism.

[Anonymous No.14706567]

>>14706482
The 2nd one is worse but still decent and the 3rd had promising ideas, but real bad pacing and I remember it the least of the three despite having read it most recently. Although I will say that the twist at the end of the 3rd was both convoluted and very interesting. Honestly, after the twins were killed off I felt like the series lost some a lot of its charm.

[Anonymous No.14706597]

>>14703760
Not exactly the same vein but similar... The Martian Chronicles by Bradbury is excellent and touches on people's response to censorship and bloated bureaucracy.

[Anonymous No.14706618]

Just finished reading Dune, good story but the events at the end made no sense to me. Why would the emperor come to Arrakis, and down to the surface no less? Something to ensure spice shipments at the guild's request apparently, but why'd the guild need to do that when they're getting their bribes from the fremen? Seems like a lot of that shit happened only because the plot necessitated it, but I was reading pretty quickly towards the end so I might have missed something.

[Anonymous No.14706725]

To the dune fags that finished the series. Does the sand become a forest.

[Anonymous No.14706744]

>>14703034
Why is Conan so popular in these threads? Every thread someone's talking about it.

[Anonymous No.14706760]

>>14704615
Bro I really enjoyed Diamond Age's ending. What else do you want, we already know she's the queen. This is how you keep the world alive after the last page. History doesn't stop but books have to.

[Anonymous No.14706930]

>>14705382
I've only read Raven's Mark, the first book is pretty awesome, the second book is pure power wankery, magic power armor and miniguns invented by a side character, the MC eats an abomination and is now immune to magic.

[Anonymous No.14706962]

Literally why is this so acclaimed when discussions about wuxia come up?

>there is almost no real plot progression for the first 200ish chapters
>aside from being a scammer with an autistic obsesssion with cultivating, Meng Hao has no personality or even goals.
>fight scenes literally consist of two people standing before each other whilst smacking their bags of holdings to draw out weapons, the winner of the fight will not be determined by skill or talent but rather by who has the higher realm, the better legacies, and the better weapons to spam. If Meng Hao happens to be weaker than you get to read a 10 chapter chase scene until he escapes.
>the cultivation is bland compare to Cradle, Desolate Era, or Coiling Dragon
>the realms all feel the same, and worse there's no real distinction between them. I frankly mixed up the realma because they were so generic
>even the progression system is PILLS PILLS PILLS, no skill or talent required, need to advance? Just swallom one gorrilion pills

Please tell me why people praise this garbage

[Anonymous No.14706970]

>>14706542
Snow Crash is intentionally cheesy, over the top cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.14706971]

>>14706104
I really enjoyed that book up until the ending, and even that section made sense. It was just miserable to read and it reminded me way too much of Blood Music. Or let's say it reminded me of my memory of reading Blood Music which was several years before. I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.

Greg Egan wrote two of my favorite short stories, "Learning to Be Me" and "Border Guards." Read them together if you can, in that order. I can no longer find the first of these online but here's someone doing an alright job reading it, though I can't say I listened to the entire thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jODYNRwawO8
and here's Border Guards at Egan's website -
https://www.gregegan.net/BORDER/Border.html

[Anonymous No.14706994]

>>14706506
Just you wait. Next stop is fiction as live service, with Apple Arcade style exclusives and no way to just buy the book.

[Anonymous No.14707007]

>>14706567
I'll prolly wait to read them before the fourth one comes out in a few months

[Anonymous No.14707011]

>>14706744
Have you ever read Conan?

[Anonymous No.14707015]

>>14706962
>chinese schlock
I don't know what to tell you

[Anonymous No.14707047]

>>14707015
Some of it is good though, such as: the condor trilogy, the three kingdoms, release the witch, desolate era, coiling dragon, a step into the past etc.
I had high hopes for ISSTH because everyone was hyping it up as one of the best Chinese fantasy novels but its pure shit.
When I go to places like novelupdates, goodreads, reddit, amd even /a/, this novel gets unanimous praise. I just can't comprehend it, I've forces myself through like 130 chapters but I hate it with every fiber of my being.
I finally decided to just drop it after going on one forum and unironically being told that "it gets good after chapter 200".

[Anonymous No.14707057]

>>14707047
>the condor trilogy, the three kingdoms, release the witch, desolate era, coiling dragon, a step into the past
All literally bottom of the barrel trash.
Try Ze Tian Ji.

[Anonymous No.14707090]

>>14707057
You didn't enjoy Coiling Dragon or a step into the past? What's your take on Cradle by Will Wright?
>Ze Tian Ji
Thanks for the recc, do you have any other wuxia novels that you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.14707151]

>>14706962
Yea I dunno I dropped it pretty shortly in. Didn’t find it very good.

[Anonymous No.14707194]

>>14704737
i've been on 4ch since '07, don't have a plebbit account or visit there. i'm not thin skinned about it, it's just boring seeing the same stuff so i've changed my main board to /o/. which still has dumb shit like 'snap oversteer' and other retarded opinions but at least it's more active and varied than /sffg/ and /lit/

>>14706970
it made me kek sometimes

[Anonymous No.14707266]

>>14707194
Feel free to stop posting here, you won't be missed.

[Anonymous No.14707285]

>>14706971
"Learning to be me" is a short story in a few anthologies and collections of his work. I can upload it if anyone wants. It's good times.

[Anonymous No.14707333]

>>14706970
Yea, I read the description of snow crash and it sounds like all of the things I don't want in cyberpunk. My favorite things about Neuromancer are its themes on late-late stage capitalism and the interplay between humanity, spiritualism, and technology. I also just really enjoy Gibson's rhymic style of prose and I don't think snowcrash would live up to it.

[Anonymous No.14707400]

>>14706744
It's homoerotic undertones makes the closet /pol/fags diamonds.

[Anonymous No.14707410]

>>14707266
look ma, i posted again

[Anonymous No.14707412]

>>14707400
Gotta love when insecure "men" claim anything masculine is actually homosexual

[Anonymous No.14707414]

>>14707400
You have no power here

[Anonymous No.14707435]

>>14707400
Actually fag here. Yeah, Conan does nothing for me. You just imagine he is the type to ISIS you

[Anonymous No.14707449]

>>14707266
Oh. I would be missed.
You could say, sffg literally depends on me.

[Anonymous No.14707451]

How is the expanded version of Campbell's "The Thing From Another World"?

[Anonymous No.14707510]

>>14707400
Bi dude here.
As a guy that's into bears and general buffmen, I bare get a scratch from it.
Some passages can get an internal 'umph' but I won't get up from it.

[Anonymous No.14707544]

>>14707449
>You could say, sffg literally depends on me.
That will be tested soon.

[Anonymous No.14707566]

/sffg/, I really want to enjoy discworld because it has everything I like in a fantasy setting, but something about the way Terry Pratchet writes just shits in my coffee, and I'm not sure if it's him or the fact that I've only ever tried reading his work when I'm depressed

[Anonymous No.14707585]

>>14707566
Discworld can be surprisingly somber and gloomy at times. It's not ideal for depression, it can be very existential.

[Anonymous No.14707603]

>>14707585
I remember reading The Color Of Magic about a year ago, and while I enjoyed it for a bit the minute the timeskip happened my heart just plummeted and everything after that felt like trash

[Anonymous No.14708093]

Hey fellas I don't normally read science fiction but I wanted to ask if anyone can recommend me something in particular that looking for. After playing picture related, I was thinking about what potential political institutions could govern individuals that had the ability to be so distant from the central city. Are there any examples that could give me some inspiration or ideas?

[Anonymous No.14708277]

>>14704321
The entire creepy atmosphere of the rest of the book got thrown out for starry-eyed transhumanist fanboyism

[Anonymous No.14708437]

>>14707566
It's because the author is a Terry.

[Anonymous No.14708574]

What are you waiting to be released for 2020?

[Anonymous No.14708616]

/m/ here plz gibbe recommendations with giant robots

[Anonymous No.14708711]

>>14708093
How did Outer Wilds make you think about that, the Nomai clans?

You'd be better served reading about the history of the Roman or British empires than any novel

>>14707566
Try an audiobook instead

[Anonymous No.14708792]

>Fatima shrugged. “They seem to think I’ve somehow harmed their chances for Elon to take them on a ride out to the wormhole, which the aliens are building in order to invite all the least pleasant people on Reddit and 4chan into their galactic empire.”
Feels odd to be mentioned in a book. Anyhow, I think Instantiation overall has been a dud--far too many politics and abrupt endings--and while I'm on the last story and plan to finish the overall collection, I am heavily disappointed. I liked the story 'The Nearest' because its twist was well done and is played smoothly. I don't care for this seemingly 3-part collection of stories with the same MC, especially as the first doesn't seem to lead into the second at all.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.14708846]

https://www.goodreads.com/list/tag/4chan

[Anonymous No.14708860]

>>14708616

Titanicus, by Dan Abnett

[Anonymous No.14708887]

>>14708093
give a detailed description of outer wilds for the non-gamers here, and what you want from a book

>>14708574
Winds of Winter

[Anonymous No.14708894]

If you don't read at least 100,000 pages per year, you aren't even human.

[Anonymous No.14709005]

>>14706744
>so popular
Yet nobody answered this for me....
>>14673392
>>14673399
>>14673405

[Anonymous No.14709108]

Self published WAS the future, but it is now dead.

[Anonymous No.14709157]

>>14709108
Genuinely asking, anyone/everyone else in the thread can answer to;
What's the market for a platform like Tumblr/Blogsites with support from Patreon donations like?

Say for example I wrote something that was conventionally unprintable, seen as a risky investment on the publishers part (200000+ word manuscript, extremely niche themes, extremely alien, 'DoA' Genre, etc) would someone be better off using a relatively "free to read" method and then play on peoples heartstrings asking for donations?

>inb4 Porn/Smut Comics do that already
That's why I'm asking, it works for that model and I haven't seen many /sffg/ related works using that method.

[Anonymous No.14709164]

>>14709157
offer it for free and if it's blowing up you'll find a publisher with ease

[Anonymous No.14709189]

>>14709157
see
>>14709164
Also most indies have a patreon in addition to selling on kindle. It works out well and isn't against amazon TOS.

[Anonymous No.14709194]

I realised a fantasy book in a podcast format and I think that might be the future of indie publishing. Most people are too busy to read, but many people work and listen to podcasts while they work. I don't see why releasing a chapter of a book every month or so would be a bad idea. The format is tried and tested: manga, comics, and order novels like books from Charles Dickens were released this way.

Then through gaining an audience this way you can sell merchandise, and once enough of the book is released as a podcast you can put it up for sale and have an audience ready and willing to pay for it. The only hurdles are writing the book, and finding a narrator willing to read it. Both are very doable.

My audio drama episodes are doing pretty good so far, with lots of room to grow. Having gone through the process its not as scary as you might think.

[Anonymous No.14709257]

>>14707510

sorry this is a non-homo thread, kindly leave

[Anonymous No.14709411]

>>14704043
where the fuck did you hear that?

[Anonymous No.14709428]

>>14709194
>what if radio dramas
Yeah. The main problem I foresee is that you need to be quite the hack to produce new chapters at a volume and frequency that will get people hooked initially.

[Anonymous No.14709448]

>>14704043

S-source?

[Anonymous No.14709465]

"Best" fantasy published in 2019?

Has anything non-pozzed been written at all the last few years?

[Anonymous No.14709507]

>>14709428
I would just choose a plot that I like but I'm not going to make into my magnum opus. I can do both concurrently.

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.14709967]

>>14704970
Only if the book is really gripping

>>14705617
That would be Douglas Adams or Neil GayMan

>>14706744
It's a whole different genre that owes nothing to Tolkien

>>14707510
One of the things I love about Conan is its (I think) complete lack of sex scenes. Nothing wrong with sex scenes but they're usually so corny and fanservicey. Like in BotNS where you know literally every female character is going to get boned by Severian

>>14709005
You can't just swap in IRL races for the ones in Conan, because that's not how the stories were written. For example, the Picts are correctly placed in Scotland, but are obviously based on American Indians, because REH was getting into westerns at that point in his life.

In the stories where Red Sonja is a minor character, it's implied that she's Russian, but I don't think this is ever confirmed. IIRC the northern races get lumped together because of that whole deal with them de-evolving into Yetis and then back into humans.

[Anonymous No.14710073]

>>14708093
House of Suns

[Anonymous No.14710200]

>>14709157
I'd serialize it on Wattpad and try to gain a following. If you get views, publishers will notice or you could stop releasing the rest of it and put it all on Amazon or whatever for pay.

[Anonymous No.14710484]

The end is nigh.

[Anonymous No.14710614]

The decade of GRI APPROVAL has ended with our lord and patron, Scott R Bakker. After he was cancelled by Orbit for hurting snowflakes feelings, no publishing house will allow turgid pulsing members seeking warmth anymore.

[Anonymous No.14710764]

>>14710614
plenty of GRI in mainstream novels with lots of advertisement.
but /sffg/ doesnt read new books. only old stuff.

[Anonymous No.14710787]

>>14710764
Give me some 2019/2020 GRI APPROVED books.

[Anonymous No.14710829]

What had stopped you in your tracks and hit you real hard from your recent reads? This particular dialogue just floored me upon reading it because of how relateable it was:

>Despairingly, sometimes, I seek the comfort of a benign God, Sharilla. My mind goes out, lying awake at night, searching through black barrenness for something, anything, which will take me to it, warm me, protect me, tell me that there is order in the chaotic tumble of the universe, that it is consistent, this precision of the planets, not simply a brief, bright spark of sanity in an eternity of malevolent anarchy.
>Elric sighed and his quiet tones were tinged with hopelessness
>Without some confirmation of the order of things, my only comfort is to accept the anarchy. This way, I can revel in chaos and know, without fear, that we are all doomed from the start, that our brief existence is both meaningless and doomed. I can accept then, that we are more than forsaken, because there was never anything there to forsake us. I have weighed the proof, Sharilla, and must believe that anarchy prevails, in spite of all the laws which seemingly govern our actions, our sorcery, our logic. I see only chaos in the world. If the Book we seek tells me otherwise, then I shall gladly believe it. Until then, I will put my trust only in my sword and myself.
The Weird of the White Wolf, Michael Moorcock.

[Anonymous No.14710879]

>>14703760
J.G. Ballard.

[Anonymous No.14710915]

>>14704121
That Revan book Drew Karshittian wrote. Not only was is dreadful in terms of writing, it came off as a terrible fan fiction and was somehow supposed to be a closure to his story, even though it completely rejects KOTOR II, aka the much superior sequel. Fuck him, I'm sticking to my own head canon.

[Anonymous No.14711095]

>>14710829
>This particular dialogue just floored me upon reading it because of how relateable it was

[Anonymous No.14711249]

Re-reading Shadow of the Torturer and I gotta say when I first heard the theory that Severian forged Thecla's torture orders I thought it was total bullshit, but now when I re-read it it honestly feels like it's written to be that way.

The timing just feels way too coincidental, and I cannot think of a reason as to why Thecla would be tortured, especially when you consider that the Autarch was unaware of it

What are your guys opinions on the theory?

[Anonymous No.14711336]

>>14710614
>>14710764
>>14710787
The problem with new, post Bakker GRI books is now they do stuff like spout intersectionality and gender theory dogma, in between the GRI. Like the main love interest girl is talking about how just because she’s a girl, doesn’t mean she has to identify as one, then It cuts to some GRI in a new chapter pov. Like they have to buy back their soul before using GRI.

It’s tiresome.

[Anonymous No.14711520]

>started staying up until 3am every night because it makes me hypomanic which is when I do my best writing
>keep it up for 9 years
>feel like im getting dumber
>start hearing concerning things about the relation between <8hrs of sleep and cognitive decline
>afraid if i sleep more, ill lose 2hrs a day I could spend on hobbies and leisure, and the hypomania i need to write well
>doctor advises me to try it for three months and see how it goes
>mfw I go to bed at midnight, cant fall asleep until 6am, and go to work feeling like I got run over by a tractor

I think i should take this as a sign /sffg/

>>14709465
The Kingdom of Copper without a doubt

[Anonymous No.14711627]

>>14711520
I highly notice my lack of mental processing power when I don't sleep enough

[Anonymous No.14711737]

>>14711627
the issue is complicated. on one hand, anything less than 8 hours can cause semi-reversible brain damage with people like me who sleep 6 or 7 hours overwhelmingly underestimating how much the lack of sleep effects them. on the other hand, there's a well known relation between creativity and altered mental states. I myself have an atypical form of bipolar II in which my hypomania (a mental state typically characterized by euphoria, increased energy, racing thoughts and erratic behavior) lacks the erratic behavior component, meaning I get all of the benefits and none of the drawbacks. Less sleep is supposed to be a trigger for hypomania, so im worried fixing my sleep schedule will actually "fix" a part of my neurochemistry that is better off broken

[Anonymous No.14711747]

What are some books with a good heroes journey/well written protag or world building? Self contained so i don't have to go on big tangents

Got half way through neuromancer and was liking it but don't know why i stopped just got busy I guess but then ended up reading 1000 pages of way of kings because of my daily commute, and the world building is nice and don't mind the change of perspective but i fucking hate the 'witty' dialogue from shallan

[Anonymous No.14711762]

>>14711747
Have you read Black Company?

[Anonymous No.14711811]

Hmph scum that repays gratitude with enmity

[Anonymous No.14711834]

>>14711762
Nope

Looks like a really long series

[Anonymous No.14711877]

>>14711520
>Kingdom of Copper
Is it a simple trilogy?
How is the first book city of brass it looks like a neat twist on medieval shit being set in the middle east

[Anonymous No.14711910]

>>14702901
>I'm still waiting for this series to get bad
It already got bad in Messiah and Children

God Emperor is fantastic though

[Anonymous No.14711947]

>>14711834
Not really. I mean, you can just read the books of the north. There's only 3. Probably less pages than the first book of Way of Kings. If you like it, then you can continue with the books of the south.
Or you can read Broken Empire, just a trilogy.

[Anonymous No.14711950]

>>14711877
it's extremely high quality fantasy. just bear in mind that the main character is a woman so if that sort of thing twists your testes, here's your warning now

[Anonymous No.14712123]

What is a really dark, fucked up Fantasy or Sci-fi book/series?
I'm looking for some like Ted Bundy in Space, or John Wayne Gacy in Middle-earth.

[Anonymous No.14712127]

>>14706040
What's akshually amazing here good sir is that you are defending the honor and good taste of a total stranger on the Internet. We are all anonymous here, does it really matter all that much that you have shit taste?
Just get a better taste bro.

[Anonymous No.14712135]

>>14707435
>>14707510
Can you fags keep it in the closet for 5 minutes?

[Anonymous No.14712141]

>>14708616
Battletech Novels specially the ones by Stackpole, they are pulp as fuck but they are fun.

[Anonymous No.14712145]

>>14711249
>What are your guys opinions on the theory?
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.14712150]

>>14711520
>The Kingdom of Copper
Fuck, that sounds horrible.

[Anonymous No.14712189]

>>14712123
KJ Parker
It's not splatterhouse though so if you have a short attention span keep out.

[Anonymous No.14712204]

>>14711950
Sell me on it give me some points at least

[Anonymous No.14712872]

>>14711747
maybe you stopped neuromancer because it has an anti-hero MC that has little character development. you should probably stay away from cyberpunk in general, it doesn't even have great world building, it's more about atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.14712967]

>>14711520
>Female author
pass

[Anonymous No.14713031]

>>14712967
ok incel

[Anonymous No.14713409]

>>14711095
God forbid you feel something when reading a book you like, eh?

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.14713439]

>>14705617
>I want childish fantasy worlds
>I'm too old to enjoy childish fantasy worlds
You'll need the scifi section for time travel, anon.

[Anonymous No.14713464]

>>14702882
The Murderbot Diaries #0-4 (novellas, 5th upcoming)
A full-body cyborg breaks free of their behavioral restrictions and is able to decide their own life in galactic society that almost exclusively regards them as something that ought to be destroyed immediately without the slightest consideration. What will they choose to do?

I found the second through forth to be much better than the first. There's a fair bit of comedy, parody, and satire along with the action and slice-of-lice.

Overall: 5/5
/sffg/ opinions diverge about the first novella, though those that read the second novella rated them highly.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.14713503]

>>14711249
I thought it was strongly implied. He saw the original orders on his superior's desk and had the opportunity. He was stung by her diminuition (sweet boy) and took revenge. He then repeatedly asks for forgiveness throughout the books which doesn't make sense when he granted her the gift of mercy.
>theclot status: patrolled

[Anonymous No.14713632]

>>14713439
honestly, what I want is something like discworld. that's probably what I should have said in the first place. something like discworld but not discworld

[Anonymous No.14713739]

>>14713632
>something like discworld but not discworld
There's just no end to this retardation.

[Anonymous No.14713761]

>>14713464
Any sex?

[Anonymous No.14713775]

>>14713761
No.

[Anonymous No.14713783]

>>14713775
Boo.

[Anonymous No.14713814]

Man, the people in this setting are fucking autistic.

How can an MC that's been alive for 2 thousand fucking years fail to gender someone correctly?

[Anonymous No.14713835]

>>14713814
Because everyone, even the plants, change their genders on a bi weekly basis.

[Anonymous No.14713845]

>>14713835
Not me.
I am 100% man... usually.

[Anonymous No.14713849]

>>14713835

Well, what bothers me is that this isn't the case. It's explicitly outlined in the beginning of the book that it's a linguistics thing. Then the MC literally learns 11 languages over 20 years and they still fuck up what pronouns to use.

How? Everyone is physiologically a man or a woman. The story doesn't bring up androgyns at all.

Also, the glove shit is turbo autism.

[Anonymous No.14713857]

>>14713849
It's supposed to Really Make You Think about the general "he"

[Anonymous No.14713874]

>>14713814
I'm sure the author thought it would be an interesting idea to not explicitly state the gender of any character. For the reader though the gimmick simply gets annoying as fuck after the first chapter or two. Spoiled the entire book for me as it was just so difficult to read.

[Anonymous No.14714062]

I'm finishing the Revelation Space series. I really like the setting, the tech, etc (the main plot not so much). Other somewhat hardish sci-fi on this vein? Is Culture series good?

[Anonymous No.14714077]

>>14714062
John C Wright, Golden Age

[Anonymous No.14714264]

>tfw you need to get an agent or get back to writing but you're just sitting her procrastinating
>tfw you don't even have anything good to procrastinate with

[Anonymous No.14715099]

God, there is nothing worth reading right now. Everything sucks

[Anonymous No.14715127]

>>14715099
Web novels and xianxia

[Anonymous No.14715461]

>>14715099
because you have shit taste

[Anonymous No.14715519]

>tfw days are getting longer again
>tfw I'm now on more antidepressants than ever before
>tfw I still can't enjoy reading or writing anymore
>nor can I enjoy anything else.

this sucks

[Anonymous No.14715727]

>>14715127
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.14715797]

>>14715727
Seized by the system is a fun read

[Anonymous No.14715935]

>>14715797
>1100 chapters

Holy fuck, why?

[Anonymous No.14715980]

>>14708616
Combat Frame Seed its bunch of AU Gundam stitched together. Nothing ground breaking but fun to read.

[Anonymous No.14715989]

>>14715935
New chap every day too

[Anonymous No.14716269]

>>14713464
Android or cyborg? Summary says android.

[Anonymous No.14716281]

>>14716269
Who cares?

[Anonymous No.14716288]

>>14716281
I care. I have a hard time caring for straight up robots. It's easier (at least for me) to empathize with an MC that's in a robot body but still has a fleshy brain.

[Anonymous No.14716365]

>>14716288
Cyborg. Has a human brain.

[Anonymous No.14716434]

Redpill me on YA literature. Isn't it just coming-of-age teen angst romance?

[Anonymous No.14716633]

>>14716434
Some of it is that, and atrociously in the language too. I remember a series or two that were good reads though, at least back then.

The Book of the Crow has nice world building. IIRC "Seaward" by Susan Cooper was a decent too.

[Anonymous No.14716720]

>>14714062
>Is Culture series good?

I believe that the Culture series is only notable for wanktech that makes it one of popular contenders in vs. debates.

Besides Banks' spurious ideas about human nature and society, and his obsession with making characters drown in shit, sometimes literally, the books just aren't well-written.

[Anonymous No.14716737]

>>14713409
If stock fedora-tipper dialogue from the mouth of the character who is trying to justify his long string of Stupid Evil acts makes you feel anything but amusement, I don't know what to say.

[Anonymous No.14716749]

>>14710829
The part in Blindsight where Siri realized he may have made a friend. A while after that person had died.

[Anonymous No.14716876]

>>14702882
>character loses everything that gives them purpose in the world
>they struggle greatly everyday but refuse to give in to their despair
>eventually they settle for a bittersweet present, taking joy in what little things they can whilst accepting things will never be as good as they were in the past
is there a more kino character arc than this ?

[Anonymous No.14717113]

anyone else read pkd "now wait for last year" ?

somehow it's one of my favorites; his storytelling is really visceral. also, the failure by the protagonist really hits you in the gut; he is excluded from the climax at the end, which one of his parallel selves was part of...

[Anonymous No.14717117]

>>14716434
Most YA nowadays has terrible writing. Teenagers tend to have lower standards when it comes to prose ; publishers know this, so they keep publishing overextended series with barely any plot to maximize sales. There's a reason most YA authors only write YA, and when they try to write adult fiction they fail spectacularly.

[Anonymous No.14717137]

Please rec some despair-core.

[Anonymous No.14717140]

>>14717137

[Anonymous No.14717154]

>>14717137
This one does it really well. It's essentially a PTSD simulator

[Anonymous No.14717380]

>>14702901
heretics was a small letdown after god emperor (what isnt really), but still readable. chapterhouse i found pretty comf.

im sure youve heard to stay away from any of the garbage brian herbert put out, but it bears repeating here.

[Anonymous No.14717526]

Say no to page 8, and yes to annihilation.

[Anonymous No.14717762]

>>14705200
yeah it makes you sleepy but then you keep waking up. its shit

[Anonymous No.14717801]

>>14706445
well i seriously hope no one is paying for wmw.

[Anonymous No.14717861]

>>14707047
>>14706962
yeah it sucked. reverend insanity is pretty good. most of the other chinese web novels i tried sucked or were only passable as guilty pleasure. basically don't want to try any that are supposed to be good anymore because its probably a waste of time. people who read webnovels have the worst taste imaginable so their advice is 100% unreliable.

[Anonymous No.14718109]

Reading don't give me feelings anymore.

[Anonymous No.14718253]

>>14717762
Eventually the drinking puts a stop to that

[Anonymous No.14718270]

>>14717861
Just turn your brain off and have fun
>”Junior, do you dare?”

[Anonymous No.14718630]

So it's true? After you read 2000 books nothing is fun anymore? I reached 2k last Dec and I haven't been able to enjoy anything since.

[Anonymous No.14718649]

>>14718630
Just reread your favourites. I've read Star Maker 10+ times and it's as good as ever.

[Anonymous No.14718652]

>>14718630
2000? Fuck.. How old are you?

[Anonymous No.14718735]

>>14716876
>WE KNOW YE DID IT, STEYWEN

[Anonymous No.14718936]

>>14716737
>stock fedora-tipper dialogue
Yeah, pricks like you can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.14718959]

>>14718936

[Anonymous No.14718998]

>>14710829
>Moorcock
lol

[Anonymous No.14719025]

just finished house of suns
all in all i enjoyed it, i've said it before and i'll say it again, reynolds is very imaginative and very good at this far future stuff and seems to be the only hard sci-fi author who manages to write passable characters

that said, is there a way for me to permenantly unsubscribe from the robots good humanity bad meme
easily the worst trope in sci-fi

[Anonymous No.14719191]

>>14713464
Alright, this seems good and short, I'm gonna give it a go while I think on what series to read next.

[Anonymous No.14719385]

do you ever wonder if it's a pitiful act of desperation to try and do what writers like Tolkien and Pratchett did when you know just from reading their life stories that you're too mundane to be anything like them?

Whenever I read the life story of some famous author, they were always a prodigy, always published their first work as a teenager, always always knew three languages and other such horse crap. it makes me feel sick reading that sffg. it makes me sick realizing that no matter what you do, your life will never matter because you weren't born someone like them

[Anonymous No.14719425]

>>14712189
Which trilogy?
Or are they all good and dark?

[Anonymous No.14719430]

>>14719425
Try Duelist to see if you like it

[Anonymous No.14719469]

>>14719385
I'm not entirely sure that it is that easy, not even for them. Even if they were born with the gift to write well and have great imagination, I'm sure they had to work hard and have a good education where they were introduced to books very early in life. Most of it I think it really comes from education, not what you get in school, but even before that, at home. If you start reading and writing at a young age then it will be easier to learn and progress over the years. Just like other arts like music, painting, etc. That's why many authors defend that parents should start reading to their kids as soon as 6 months of age. Then comes hard work of course. But if you didn't get that early education going then it will be twice as hard. So yea, deep down it's not just up to you.

[Anonymous No.14719515]

Alright I just ordered the Book of the New Sun series.
I hope you guys didn't meme me, from what I've read online it's a mess to understand.

[Anonymous No.14719524]

>>14719469
to be a hard worker is its own talent. to not change your mind, not be discouraged by mistakes, not lose interest, have a ideas and a dedication to bring them to fruition, not only against your own inertia but the forces of the univerese as well

fuck, pratchet got his first typewriter at 13, using the money he earned from having already published a story

[Anonymous No.14719557]

>>14719515
>from what I've read online it's a mess to understand
Not really.
I feel like the people who say this are people who solely read YA-fantasy.
Wolfe is an easy read, as long as you aren't someone who needs a book to hold their hand the entire way through.

[Anonymous No.14719561]

>>14719515
The most hilarious part about finishing BotNS for me is looking online and finding out that there's some shit in the book that nobody has a clue about what's going on

[Anonymous No.14719562]

>>14719515
It's a mess to understand the important stuff that's under the surface or between the lines, but the surface is an interesting and engaging read by itself. It's not that you won't enjoy it without getting deep into it (there are monsters and giants and swords and spaceships), it's that there's a lot of extra enjoyment to be had re-reading, analyzing and discussing it.

[Anonymous No.14719606]

>>14719524
You shouldn't compare yourself to others like that, it's no good. There's also great writers that got their books out late, like Bukowski or Raymond Chandler, no one is the same. You should train harder on how to restrain yourself to work, set up some working hours or something like that. Research can also help unlock some limitations that you may be facing.

[Anonymous No.14719723]

>>14706242
I would very much like to know that too, it's one of my favorite novels. Never read anything else that could compare to this.

[Anonymous No.14719781]

>>14718959
what the fuck haha

[Anonymous No.14720429]

>>14702882
>What's the worst way you've seen a book end?
Wasn't the worst or anything but the ending of the 2nd Priest of Lies book put me off the rest of the series.
Series decides to go all in on the protag being evil instead of an antihero and its just boring

[Anonymous No.14720533]

>>14702882
>What's the worst way you've seen a book end?
Emperor’s blades trilogy. Fuck Adare. Bitch never suffers any consequences for anything she did wrong.

[Anonymous No.14720546]

>>14718959
I regret reading this.

[Anonymous No.14720552]

>>14709428
Presenting the past something as new is a common way for an idiots to think they're a genius.

[Anonymous No.14720558]

>>14706994
Fiction As A Service.
You order it on an app and someone videochats with you and tells you a story.

[Anonymous No.14720559]

>>14720558
sounds comfy

[Anonymous No.14720562]

>>14720559
Then some people have the amazing idea of telling erotic stories and phone sex is presented as something new.

[Anonymous No.14720569]

>>14711811
Such as yourself.

[Anonymous No.14720572]

>>14702882
>What's the worst way you've seen a book end?
Ringworld. Too abrupt.

[Anonymous No.14720574]

>>14707011
I would never read Conan.

[Anonymous No.14720576]

>>14719524
Congrats, you've discovered if you blame everything on your birth then you don't have to take any responsibility for anything in your life.

[Anonymous No.14720578]

>>14720558
>You order it on an app and someone videochats with you and tells you a story.
chaturbate already exists though. and camgirls make mad dosh.

[Anonymous No.14720584]

>>14720578
Not really. Most of them don't.
https://knowingless.com/2018/11/19/maximizing-your-slut-impact-an-overly-analytical-guide-to-camgirling/

[Anonymous No.14720593]

>classic scifi is about sense of wonder and awe
>cyberpunk is about dread and ecstasy
do you agree with this definition?

[Anonymous No.14720603]

>>14720593
No.

[Anonymous No.14720608]

>>14704741
Thank you for the payment. I hope we are able to work together in the future again.

[Anonymous No.14720611]

>>14705248
That's called historical fiction.

[Anonymous No.14720615]

>>14706543
Then don't read feel bad books.

[Anonymous No.14720617]

Does it get better? I'm ~15 pages in and while the premise is interesting the writing is off putting

>>14720593
No

[Anonymous No.14720622]

>>14707451
You should read Peter Watt's The Things, which is that story told from the perspective of The Thing.

[Anonymous No.14720628]

>>14718109
Stop doing everything and anything.

[Anonymous No.14720634]

>>14720617
It got spammed into the the top 20 chart despite no one really reading it.

[Anonymous No.14720636]

Are there any good piece of Sci-Fi/Fantasy where the MC is in an interspecies relationship?

No, I don't mean people dating blacks and no I don't mean people dating elves. They don't count.

[Anonymous No.14720641]

>>14720636
WILD WASTES - RANDI DARREN

[Anonymous No.14720666]

>>14720617
Whats wrong with the writing? Its passable IIRC

[Anonymous No.14720674]

>>14720636
Technically speaking, anything that can produce offspring with each other is the same species.

[Anonymous No.14720682]

>>14720674
>A mule is the offspring of a male donkey (jack) and a female horse (mare).[1][2] Horses and donkeys are different species, with different numbers of chromosomes.

[Anonymous No.14720684]

>>14719385
>Sick

You're too fragile to enter the realms of writers such as myself. No drive.

[Anonymous No.14720686]

>>14720593
>cyberpunk is about dread and ecstasy
No. Cyberpunk is "High Tech, Low Life". Current china is actually a really good reference. Asia also frequently shows up in cyberpunk themes. Basically its about corporations or governments having the power to do whatever they want and everyone not part of the establishment is living in misery and barely scraping by. I suppose its kinda like socialism or communism in that regard. everyone is miserable except the ones at the top. Or in simpler terms you can watch every channel under the sun on your holographic TV but you cant afford to actually buy decent food.

[Anonymous No.14720690]

>>14720674

I honestly don't care about that. I was mostly interested in seeing if someone had spent some time writing a story about an MC that gets with a freaky ayyy or some sort of fantasy monster chick.

I am not explicitly looking for porn here, though.

[Anonymous No.14720699]

>>14720690
Tons of manga, anime, and light novels do.
Sasuga, Japan.

[Anonymous No.14720728]

>>14720641
>harem warning

Eh... sell me on this.

[Anonymous No.14720742]

>>14720728
I couldn't care less if you read it or not.

[Anonymous No.14720746]

>>14720690
I have read something some time ago i think it was HFY related. The premise was simple. Basically humans seem to be the common ancestor of all humanoid life in the universe for some reason and as such can breed with any race. This story was written as a guide to different planets and cultures from the perspective of a man who married an alien women and had to get used to strange customs. The moral of the story ironically if you are a human and get drunk in outer space, use prophylactics if you get your freak on, not because of any diseases but because human can impregnate everyone or bear anyone's offspring.

[Anonymous No.14720752]

>>14720728
not the guy you are responding too but i came for the smut but stayed for the story. guy is a genuinely good writer even if some of the stories are hit or miss. wild wastes and fostering faust are his best works so far in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.14720801]

>>14720742
Based.

>>14720746

Sounds HFY.

>>14720752

Alright, it's free so I guess it won't kill me to read a chapter or two.

[Anonymous No.14720823]

>>14720674
>>14720682
*fertile offspring is the usual definition, but I think there are some exceptions to that too

[Anonymous No.14720834]

>>14720666
It's frontloaded with technical terms (entoptics), and terms that sound technical (hyperdiamond). Too many asides - within em-dashes - that give a stop-start quality to reading. And the dialogue has an awkward quality I can't put my finger on

[Anonymous No.14720853]

New thread in 4 hours or page 10, whichever comes first.

[Anonymous No.14721015]

>>14720674
>tfw no two amoeba are the same species

[Anonymous No.14721073]

Looking for something similar to Traitor Son Cycle, and by that I mean a bit more "educated" medieval fantasy.

[Anonymous No.14721202]

>>14720628
So an hero? Will do soon enough.

[Anonymous No.14721215]

>>14719385
>you'll never matter
The problem is you don't want to write. You want to be a one of the Most Famous Writers Evarrrr. I'm working on my writing and the only thing I care about is honing my skills so that I write a damn good story worthy of publication, that readers enjoy and they want to read more. The only comparisons you should be making are to yourself. Is this revision better than the last draft? Is my technique better than in my earlier stories? Writing is one of the hardest fields to get into so unless you're willing to put in years of work then go back to vidya and binging seasons.

>>14720593
nah

>>14720636
Perdido Street Station

[Anonymous No.14721225]

>>14720546
Hit too close to home?

[Anonymous No.14721233]

>>14721225
No, because it's without value.

[Anonymous No.14721243]

>>14705617

[Anonymous No.14721254]

>>14720533
Fuck Adare. Jesus fuck you just brought hate back into my heart that I got rid of earlier by reading a funny piece.

[Anonymous No.14721324]

>>14721233
Why do I feel that you were head coverings made of cloth or felt, and have facial hair that grows mostly below the chin?

[Anonymous No.14721329]

>>14721324
Because feeling that way makes you feel better about yourself.

[Anonymous No.14721343]

>>14721329
Are you expecting someone to dip their headwear's brim down and up slightly towards you?

[Anonymous No.14721349]

>>14721343
M'lady!

[Anonymous No.14721418]

What ever happened to the Demons of Astlan series? It's been years since a release.
Did he go the way of E William Brown and soak up patreon money?

[Anonymous No.14721540]

>>14706506
>Hell, some torrent clients want you to pay to use them
your fault for not using FOSS. You were warned ages ago to drop proprietary software for torrents.

[Anonymous No.14721541]

>>14720636

Foreigner by C. J. Cherryh is about a human diplomat-translator working with a race of aliens who can't understand certain human concepts like "friendship" at a biological level. He eventually begins a romantic relationship with one of them, though from what I've read of the series so far (first six books IIRC) it's mostly been a sub-plot.

[Anonymous No.14721606]

>>14721541
Holy fuck that series has a lot of novels. Fuckin' 18?

[Anonymous No.14721696]

Do you guys think that webnovels getting onto Amazon killed the self publishing market?

[Anonymous No.14721704]

>>14721696
All fads of novelty come to an end sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.14721780]

>>14721696
Webnovels and Patreon are the future.

[Anonymous No.14721861]

>>14721606
Yeah. I get the impression that not only is the series a "bread and butter" one (eg David Drake says on his blog that the RCN series lets him write other stuff) but also something she does as a pet project. They're mostly divided up into trilogies, so for example the first three cover the human colony ship returning and a crash program to tech up the aliens and resupply it, and the second one jumps forwards to the ship and characters leaving to recover people from the space station they left behind.

On the upside it's nowhere near as bad as the Vorkosigan series having 3 different reading orders. And they're fairly easy reading too.

[Anonymous No.14721863]

>>14721696
All I know is JV Jones is gonna self pub the last book in the cavern of black ice series, so I’m thankful for it.

[Anonymous No.14722015]

NEW THREAD
>>14722006
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