/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14698844]

About to read all 6 of Herbert's Dune books. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.14698854]

>>14698844
these nuts, checkem

[Anonymous No.14698861]

>>14698844
Idk I only read the first one. It was Hamlet mixed with Lawrence of Arabia in space.

[Anonymous No.14698897]

Worm rape. Lots of it.

[Anonymous No.14698910]

>>14698844
A classic sci fi story followed by sequels of linearly degrading quality until you end up with complete shit.

[Anonymous No.14698960]

>>14698844
Dune is pretty boring, just a bunch of dukes in space and stuff. Nothing really happens. You should skip it and go read Foundation instead.

*How does he know of Dune? The movie was enough of a threat, but this... I never expected someone to ask here. Unless... Yes, I sense it. He's after the spice. The spice melange.*

The Expanse is way better as well. Now there's some good space opera. Have you heard of the Black Library? The Horus Heresy series has like 52 novels and it's hella epic. It's just like Dune but with Chaos lmao

[Anonymous No.14698997]

>>14698960
Retarded hot take

[Anonymous No.14699213]

>>14698960
Foundation is exceedingly boring. Expanse series is good for the first couple then drops off in quality too.
>>14698910
Pretty much this.

[Anonymous No.14699683]

>>14699213
Agree with this, I also found Foundation a bit of a drag

Currently reading The Expanse books, loved the first one but finding the second a bit boring

Back to Dune - enjoyed the first but the second was shit

[Anonymous No.14699694]

>>14698997
>>14699213
Dune is overrated garbage. Asimov was a way better writer. Foundation and Empire is light years ahead of anything that hack Hubert or whatever ever imagined. Dune is best avoided.

*Wait. These other posters, they're disagreeing with my post so vehemently. Why would they do that unless... Of course. They want the spice for themselves. Perhaps they've seen through my ruse, and are supporting my plan to throw OP off track with double reverse psychology, so that they can seize the precious spice for themselves. I had better play this both ways. What is that old saying? "He who controls the spice controls the universe." The spice must be mine, the spice melange. *

I'd recommend reading Dune as a cultural artifact, OP, but you'd do better to read Barsoom if that's what you're after, since those books actually have a sense of adventure. You know, I have an old set of the John Carter books in leatherbound that I don't use anymore if you want them, OP.

*If that doesn't work I'll tell him to watch the Syfy miniseries instead. Plans within plans.*

[Anonymous No.14699746]

>>14699683
The last Expanse book was actually good again. But there's definitely some "filler" books in between. The second starts slow but ends strong. The third one is good. I'd almost say just skip the fourth one entirely. Then it kind of meanders in quality til the last book. I'm one of those people that once I start a series I can't quit even if it turns to dogshit so, whatever.

[Anonymous No.14699793]

read the first one so far and I enjoyed it. sci-fi hamlet is a pretty accurate assessment.
>>14698997
>Retarded hot take
you've been in the spice beer, my friend.

[Anonymous No.14699796]

>>14699694
>>14699683
They are both good in different ways. Herbert is way better at world building, where Asimov has a good combination of Sci-Fi and mystery, which is still present even in the foundation.
>>14698844
I'd stop at God Emperor, it doesn't end on a cliff-hanger and it's the best of the series.

[Anonymous No.14699946]

>>14698844
The first one is an influential and iconic piece with real intrigue. It gets gradually worse until the sunk cost fallacy sinks in and you double down and find it good again around the God-Emperor.

[Anonymous No.14699992]

>>14698844
You are in for a lot of use of the word "presently"

[Anonymous No.14700164]

Four really good books followed by two lesser books that end on a cliffhanger that was never resolved. Read them all if you must, but I recommend finishing with God Emperor.

[Anonymous No.14700204]

>>14698844
a waste of your time. Just read the first two

[Anonymous No.14700911]

>>14698960
I'm OP and read both Expanse and all the HH books. Dune is entertaining me so far tho as I like space politics and world building

[Anonymous No.14700957]

>>14698844
Read the first 2/3 of book one and then stop everything after that is downhill. Dune is worth reading for the interesting world building, its some of the most creative and solves lots of issues distant future sci-fi has but the characters dont even feel human.

[Anonymous No.14701205]

>>14698844
One great book and a bunch of sequels that are mediocre to downright bad. Don't waste your time and just read the first one, maybe Messiah because it's a very quick read but it's also super boring.

[Anonymous No.14701363]

>>14698910
>linearly
Nope. 4 and 5 are an improvement over 2 and 3.

[Anonymous No.14701407]

>>14698844
God Emperor of Dune is the best one. It's also the most trippy and that's saying something

[Anonymous No.14701412]

Frank is extremely descriptive and creates an immersive world. You're in for a treat

[Anonymous No.14701458]

The first book is great but incomplete, and only makes sense if you read Messiah afterwards. Children is pretty bad, but God Emperor is good. Haven't read the rest.

[Anonymous No.14701536]

>>14699793
I'm the same guy who compared it ti Hamlet. The Expanse is just much much worse.

[Anonymous No.14701566]

>>14698844

The fourth book will open the scope of this story like you won't fucking believe. It's actually worth dredging through the practically anime-tier third Dune book, complete with a 'brother and sister pose for a picture that no one is taking' at the end.

[Anonymous No.14701578]

>>14698844
Rereading Dune after so many years is great. Also a tad inspiring, since it was rejected by more than twenty publishers before being published by Chilton Books (a little-known printing house best known for auto repair manuals) in 1965. It became perhaps the best-selling science fiction novel in history. Here's a guide to the extended series:
In terms of Dune story chronology, it starts with the Legends of Dune trilogy:
Dune: The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
Dune: The Machine Crusade (2003)
Dune: The Battle of Corrin (2004)

Then the Great Schools of Dune trilogy:
Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
Mentats of Dune (2014)
Swordmasters of Dune (TBA)

Then the Prelude to Dune trilogy:
Dune: House Atreides (1999)
Dune: House Harkonnen (2000)
Dune: House Corrino (2001)

Then it gets tricky. The Heroes of Dune planned tetralogy takes place in between and during the original early Dune novels (in full caps), so:
DUNE (1965)
Paul of Dune (2008)
DUNE MESSIAH (1969)
The Winds of Dune (formerly Jessica of Dune-2009)
CHILDREN OF DUNE (1976)
The Throne of Dune (formerly Irulan of Dune-TBA)
Leto of Dune (or perhaps The Golden Path of Dune--TBA)
GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE (1981)
HERETICS OF DUNE (1984)
CHAPTERHOUSE: DUNE (1985)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)

Even fussier are the collections:
The Road to Dune (2005) contains letters, unpublished chapters from Dune and Dune Messiah, a story ("Spice Planet" based on an outline Frank wrote & shelved prior to writing Dune itself), and short stories "A Whisper on Caladan Seas," "Hunting Harkonnens," "Whipping Mek" and "The Faces of a Martyr" (+ "Sea Child" in the paperback) all by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson (all of which take place at various different points in the series chronology)

Tales of Dune (2011, only available as an e-book so far)has three stories: “Wedding Silk,”“Sea Child” and “Treasure in the Sand." Bonus material includes “Dune: Blood and Water” and “Dune: Fremen Justice.”

*titles in caps are Frank Herbert's six original novels; the others are all co-written by his son Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson).

[Anonymous No.14701591]

>>14698844
Epic space muslim jihad, minor disappointment, excitement and redpills, disappointment, greater disappointment. In that order.

[Anonymous No.14701598]

Space Muslims and psychic nuns.

[Anonymous No.14701708]

>>14700957
>the characters dont even feel human.
And this is a problem ... how?

I sincerely doubt modern humans in developed countries feel human compared to the point of view of ones from 10,000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.14701730]

>>14698910
>Linearly degrading
Isn't God-Emperor of Dune supposed to be the one of the best in ther series, though?

[Anonymous No.14701756]

>>14698844
Does this cover actually exist? It's the best looking one I've seen and people post it all the time but I can't find it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.14702203]

>>14701756
It's the box for the 1970s board game.