/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14696152]

Red pill: If Christianity was mainstream, it wouldn’t be popular on /lit/

[Anonymous No.14696163]

>>14696152
Of course it wouldn't. I'm pretty sure oldfags were fedoratippers.

[Anonymous No.14696168]

>>14696152
Christianity is pretty popular.

[Anonymous No.14696173]

>>14696152
huh i figured it was spillover from /pol/ and edgy reactionaries looking to dismiss trash contemporary philosophy in a snowflake way.

[cunt No.14696175]

>>14696168
>Christianity is pretty popular.
people saying there christian is popular

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14696178]

I became Christian in prison so I'm not part of the larp here, but yeah most of the Christians here are tradcath larpers strictly because they're contrarians.

[Anonymous No.14696182]

>>14696152
/lit/ may be the normiest board though.

[Anonymous No.14696204]

>>14696175
reminder

[Anonymous No.14696207]

>>14696182
Lol what. This board seems like the worst possible combination of /r9k/ and /pol/.

[Anonymous No.14696233]

>>14696207
this desu.

Although, I do enjoy the crypto-countra-contrarianism on this board. Its much better than /v/ levels of crude contrarianism.
>>14696168
I think they are refering to the media landscape and pop culture. The librals are more prominent like the Foxnews biblers were 10-15years ago.

[Anonymous No.14696237]

Most /lit/ posters are Westerners. Christianity is the most popular religion in the West.

[cunt No.14696241]

>>14696204
h-hey nice girl

[Anonymous No.14696317]

>>14696178
>le changed my ways in prison
Its even more cliche and stupid then zoomers revolt against parents

[Anonymous No.14696614]

>If Christianity was mainstream

[Anonymous No.14696699]

>If Christianity was mainstream

[Anonymous No.14696718]

>If Christianity was mainstream

[Anonymous No.14696722]

>>14696614
>>14696699

https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

what in the trump inauguration speech are you on about?

[Anonymous No.14696725]

>>14696152
Red pill: not everyone is motivated to act based on how they think they will be perceived by others

[Anonymous No.14696729]

>>14696152
>world's largest religion with 2.4 billion followers
>not mainstream
Ehrm, Stirner?

[Anonymous No.14696730]

>>14696152
This goes for basically anything 4chan likes. 4chan is inherently contrarian and reactionary. Oldfags were atheists - look at things like project chanology, pretty fedoratippy. Newfags are Christians and Nazis because being conservative is the new counterculture, it's fun and edgy.

[Anonymous No.14696735]

>>14696722
LOL

[Anonymous No.14696736]

>>14696178
mark wahlberg??

[Anonymous No.14696745]

>>14696152
Redpill: If Steiner was mainstream, transsexualism wouldn’t be considered deviancy in the most of the world.

[Anonymous No.14696746]

>>14696745
Now this is a redpill

[Anonymous No.14696754]

>>14696152
>wherein OP confuses redpills for mere surface observations and lazy assumptions

[Anonymous No.14696761]

>>14696178
>>14696163
I find this sentiment disturbing. I'm *probably* one of the oldest people on this board at nearly 40. I was raised Catholic and fell away to experiment with other beliefs, but never really claimed atheist. Contrarianism is, I suspect, most appealing to young people. It's an easy (and lazy) way for them to self-segregate, as humans do. Once you're out of your early 20s, I'd feel embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous No.14696763]

>>14696745
Stirner

[Anonymous No.14696764]

>If Christianity was mainstream
The funniest part is that we don't even think of ourselves as mainstream. We just aren't a bunch of inbred, mentally ill delusional freaks.

[Anonymous No.14696766]

>>14696730
I switched because values changed. I stay in the side of anti censorship. Fuck liberals today. Fuck conservatives of yesterday. Fuck Bush, worst president.

[Anonymous No.14696770]

>>14696763
Obviously referencing Rudolf Steiner.

[Anonymous No.14696773]

>>14696761
Honestly man I'd feel extremely embarrassed if I browsed 4chan at 40 (not to be mean, but honest). You can really connect to people here at this age?

[Anonymous No.14696790]

>>14696178

There is no bigger loser than the loser who finds god in prison, except for the loser who finds god in prison and posts to 4chan using a tripcode about it.

[Anonymous No.14696793]

>>14696761
>Once you're out of your early 20s, I'd feel embarrassed for you.
Don't start thinking that being mainstream tax livestock is something to be proud of. There is a fair amount of herd mentality involved in these photos.

HOWEVER...to think that Christianity isn't mainstream, or that the plebs doesn't get something positive from being part of the church, is just laughable. Apply yourself LOL

[Anonymous No.14696802]

>>14696773
No worries anon. I don't think of myself as anything unusual, except maybe part of a lost generation. I've been here since the start, since before actually: Something Awful, the Poe-News forums, Portal of Evil, OMM, etc. I closed the pool.

>connect to people
Nobody really connects on this site, anon. Not like those other sites I mentioned. People don't make actual friendships here. I have plenty of friends, it's just that most of them don't live near me anymore and the people who do really and truly are half my age and mental deficients. Normies. You know.

But as far as friendships CAN go on this site, I try to be a good neighbor and crack a joke or lend an effortpost when I can. Most anons here seem to be interested in cooming or being cruel as a means of coping with their problems. I haven't dated in a few years. I could, with some of the young hotties around where I'm at, but then she'd get pregnant and I'd have to put school and career on hold until I'm in my 50s and turn my kids into latchkeys. That's not happening. So you all are a not-insignificant part of my company until I'm established in my field. Fwiw we've taught each other a lot and I'm really grateful for /lit/ when people are actually talking about literature or philosophy. Goodnight anon.

[Anonymous No.14696808]

>>14696793
Christianity is under attack from all institutions more powerful than it, and also it is under attack from people within it.

People within the structure of Christianity openly advocate for theologies or morals that are un-biblical and are in line with the ideologies of the oligarchs who reign above Christianity.

Christianity in the "true" or "traditional" sense is absolutely not mainstream

[Anonymous No.14696814]

>>14696793
I'm aware, and I've considered that path myself but I know myself well enough to know I couldn't do it. Mindless contrarianism is different. Each of those people in your pic went through a process of discernment to their holy orders. Contrarians in the sense you describe are literally the opposite, they stand apart for the majority on impulse. Because they think it means something even if they don't think about why they're doing it. Anyway gn anon.

[Anonymous No.14696817]

>>14696773
>You can really connect to people here at this age?
Old people talking with young people is an ancient and indispensable part of life that has been damaged by the (((generation gap))).

[Anonymous No.14696824]

>>14696773
>Honestly man I'd feel extremely embarrassed if I browsed 4chan at 40
You're probably 19 and retarded. After 25 you may as well be 70. Many people will still be on these types of websites well into their 40's/50's/60's

[Anonymous No.14696828]

>>14696178
It is mainstream but only nominally, (aka cafeteria, cultural Christianity or liberal protestantism). What is contrary or the the form that is popular on 4chan is orthodox traditional Christianity.

[Anonymous No.14696830]

>>14696828
*Replied to wrong post

[Anonymous No.14696835]

>>14696828
>What is contrary or the the form that is popular on 4chan is orthodox traditional Christianity.
This

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14697191]

>>14696790
More like the person who feels the need to denigrate others on an anonymous literature board as a pallatative for his own failure of a life.

[Anonymous No.14697560]

>>14697191
He is right you know. Unless the reason you believed is that you read a book in prison with a cosmological argument which convinced you, your belief is merely your way to deal with a difficult situation. Not based on reason, just on feelings.

[Anonymous No.14697631]

>>14696233
>/v/ levels of crude contrarianism
/v/ eats whatever shit is put on their plate. I have no idea what you're referring to.

[Anonymous No.14697674]

>>14696722
>Liberals who kill their own children with pliers finally admit that they were never really believers
Uh huh.

[Anonymous No.14698055]

>>14697560
>your belief is merely your way to deal with a difficult situation
Not that guy but... so what? You are literally describing all of natural philosophy and science.

[Anonymous No.14698436]

>>14698055
Do you think there is no difference between adopting a belief because it is emotionally satisfying and adopting a belief because you are presented with evidence for it?

[Anonymous No.14698450]

Then why do we shit on athiests despite it being mainstream

[Anonymous No.14698688]

>>14696152
I understand Christianity as a kind of demand for recognition by those who suffer the most under materialistic tyranny, but its claims to ontological primacy I just find contrary to its ideal. Perhaps this is my own misunderstanding of its ideal, but it seems like a kind of venus fly trap, it manifests a peaceful world and community to live and die in for its disciples, but its warlike assertion to sole authority and the entire history of attempts to justify said authority seem to betray something sinister in its nature. I do not think Nietzsche was far off at all when he characterizes Christianity under the spirit of revenge.

[Anonymous No.14698901]

>>14696152
>>14696163
Duh and duh. Bush was president: Dawkins is god. Obama was president: God is god.

[Anonymous No.14699115]

>>14698688
You have to consider the religious landscape of Rome, and that of the Early Church. You had basically two options, Paganism and Judaism. The pagans were, well, retarded. For an individual belief in the Gods was more or less transactional, you kill a chicken on this day in front of this altar and a God will make your wife conceive better. And this went all the way to the top. The Romans for example when practicing augury thought that seeing an eagle at the start of a war indicated extremely good fortune. So to curry favor with the fates, they started releasing eagles outside their temples every time an augury was done. A blissful afterlife was reserved for exceptional individuals only, people who were heroes to the city or the state. The Gods didnt really care about you, they might throw you a bone if you offer some meat but that's about it. The closest thing they had to mass was the parading around of an idol and the festivities surrounding it. Theres also the debauchery of late antiquity, which everyone knows about. As life in the Empire became progressively harder, faith in aloof gods waned and mystery cults started popping up, which Christiany would come into direct competition with.

Most of the first Christians were Jews by birth, but Judaism was also becoming a burden to uphold. The law of the Pharisees was becoming overly complex and punitive, anyone who questioned their authority lost their heads, and finally they got the temple and the kingdom destroyed by goading the Roman's to invade.

So for a Christian in the first or second century your only other options when it comes to religion are brain melting, retarded, nonsense. For the founders it really was the one true path.

[Anonymous No.14699131]

>>14696152
>Red pill
consider suicide asshole

[Anonymous No.14699143]

>>14698901
>Bush was president: Dawkins is god.
>Obama was president: God is god.
And now that Trump is presdeint: Guenon is god. When will they learn?

[Anonymous No.14699209]

>>14699115
I empathize with these foundational circumstances and its liberating power, but to me it seems like a powerful ancient spell running amok, particularly the sola scriptura interpretations.

[Anonymous No.14699225]

>>14699115
is that Tal?

[Anonymous No.14699229]

>>14699225
You joking? That's Fischer.

[Anonymous No.14700038]

Biblically speaking it's impossible for Christianity to be popular, but many will claim to be Christian nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.14700088]

>>14696152
>Believe in everything that's heavily shilled on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.14700356]

>>14700038
based kierkegaard poster

[Anonymous No.14700390]

>>14696802
good post, actually

[Anonymous No.14700937]

>>14698436
You need faith first to start talking about evidence.

[Anonymous No.14700953]

If chantards were actually Christians they wouldn't frequent places like 4chan

[Anonymous No.14701000]

>>14700953
t. Donatist

[Anonymous No.14701034]

>>14696718
>>14696699
>>14696614
wow about 4,000 people. Really proved that its super mainstream

[Anonymous No.14701208]

>>14696152
And is Striner were a little girl, she would be cuddles.

[Anonymous No.14701218]

>>14699115
>plebian paganism is all there is
As dumb as thinking Christianity begins and ends with praying to St.Anthony to find your car keys.

[Anonymous No.14701232]

>>14696207
/r9k/ and /pol/ are also normie boards, fag.

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14701242]

>>14696824
Faith is the hope of things not seen, it's all based on feelings unless you're larping as Aquinas

[Anonymous No.14701275]

>>14699115

You forgot philosophical schools, like neoplatonism or stoicism. They were the real competitors of christianity, aside judaism. Unlike modern philosophy which is mainly speculative, ancient philosophy was a way of life, often a community and always a cult with theological content. Augustine in Civitate Dei discusses platonism at length, and comes to the conclusion that it's the closest thing to christianity.

Christianity prevailed because unlike philosophy, traditional paganism and mystery cults, it was extremly proselyte and Christians cared about converting as many people as they could.

[Anonymous No.14701666]

This site has always been counter culture. 13 years ago 4chan was full of atheist Dawkins types who lol'd at the war in Iraq. Then the next wave of kids grew up indoctrinated with SJW shit and are reacting here. This community has always just been full of edge lords assuming that their little internet community has stumbled on the golden Truth and they're special for being part of it. Pathetic dogs, the lot of us.

[Anonymous No.14701741]

>>14696168
nominal* Christianity is pretty popular

[Anonymous No.14701981]

>>14701666
Nice trips. The contrarian is a specific type of person. They spout a disproportionately large amount of ideology in place of developed thoughts. When they get in an argument their focus is on beating their opponent, not on entering a dialogue to unearth the strongest truth possible.

[Anonymous No.14701987]

>>14701981
I have a counter for you: unearthing the strongest truth will inevitably lead you into positions associated with being contrarian for two reasons: ever culture has its sacred cows, and humans in general don't like looking at a lot of stuff. Being overly concerned with unearthing the strongest truth is more or less mental illness, it's not how we're supposed to function.

[Anonymous No.14701995]

>>14696152
Christianity is mainstream

[Anonymous No.14702000]

>>14696317
What do you think christianity is even about?

[Anonymous No.14702008]

>>14697560
No religion is rational

[Anonymous No.14702016]

>>14696802
I'm 39, just saying.

[Anonymous No.14702050]

>>14696152
I keep clicking on this image of loli striner. Does she have lewds?

[Anonymous No.14702102]

>>14700390
thanks

>>14702016
congratulations you fucking dinosaur wanna go get a drink

[Anonymous No.14702669]

>>14700937
Ha!

[Anonymous No.14702713]

>>14696773
People say this all the time but honestly the "you're here forever" meme is pretty true. I don't browse this site as much as I used to, and I use different boards, but you can't really replace the kind of interactions you have on 4chan.