/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14688970]

Any /lit/ on maladaptive daydreaming?
fiction or non, any kind honestly

[Anonymous No.14688978]

i have daydreamed like thirty nfl seasons while autistically stimming, only sex seems to cure it, if only temporarily

[Anonymous No.14688988]

>>14688978
>only sex seems to cure it, if only temporarily
this is the illusion i have, but i'm quite sure when i get there, I'll keep feeling as addicted to fantasies and empty, due to the daydreaming mixed with depression giving me a confirmation bias, tunnel vision-like delusions of reality that'll never manifest themselves in reality

[Anonymous No.14689324]

>>14688970
how do these memes always manage to hit so hard?

[Anonymous No.14689337]

>>14689324

4channers all have similar personalities and they project it on memes

[Anonymous No.14689343]

>>14688970

[Anonymous No.14689374]

My daydreams are now out of body dissociations whereby I learn more about myself by shutting down the senses my body continuously feeds me. I have always been spacey asf but several years of nmda antagonist abuse further complicated the disorder. I consider this a completely positive transformation.

[Anonymous No.14689389]

>>14689374
>nmda
Unless you mistyped MDMA, I just heard about NDMA for the first time on one of those "IF YOU OR A LOVED ONE WERE DIAGNOSED WITH..." commercials and apparently that shit is carcinogenic.

[Anonymous No.14689463]

>>14689389
I abused that too, nothing like dark net molly.

Nmda antagonists kill your sense of self so that your body becomes an immortal, animated vessel of its own
Mdma amplifies the social implications that underly everything we do

[Anonymous No.14689468]

>>14688978
>i have daydreamed like thirty nfl seasons
that's unironically based. this alone is more than most will ever achieve and validates your life imo

[Anonymous No.14689481]

>>14688970
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b06mv4js

[Anonymous No.14689495]

>>14688970
>listen to the same song on repeat
Glad I'm not the only one. Normal people would scorn you for doing that.
Sorry I like to repeat my song 5 times fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14690355]

>>14689495
I do the same but then I don't listen to it for a couple months

[Anonymous No.14690384]

What specifically do you guys daydream about? I spend a lot of time daydreaming about how my relations with people would be better under slightly better circumstances, and kind of relive my past but under those different, better circumstances. I think it's pretty fucking awful for me.

[Anonymous No.14690446]

Honestly DXM helped me understand what daydreams are. It teleports you almost to an idealistic zone, where you see what life without physical tethers would be like.
>>14688970
Reading Spinal Catastrophism by Thomas Moynihan, and in a way he tries to get at this. Through increasing neural complexity, we have a greater tendency to "fall back on" (le rabat sur?) our own systems and become absorbed in them. He argues that our sense of immediacy (the whiteheadian concept of "presentational immediacy") isn't first-order but rather a side-effect of having our own worlds within ourselves. I'm only on page 50 however, but it's quite interesting.
>>14688978
the fuck. awesome

[Anonymous No.14690620]

OP here, today's been quite comfy. Sunny weather, 7km of walking and reading Aurelius in the sun. Barely any daydreaming since I've kept myself occupied.

>>14689343
>>14689481
thanks, will check out
>>14690384
I'm studying film, so for me it's tons of aesthetic scenarios. Certain songs or ideas just transmit a certain scenario for me, with the characters composed there, and the color world is present. Trying to perfect this scene, I end up listening to a song on repeat for some 15 minutes sometimes, but this is only when i'm writing.
Also not only creative daydreams, but sentimental and erotic ones. I have the memory of how it felt to be held by a girl, hugging, kissing and such. Sometimes I just fantasize about that, and how that would make me feel so much better, but I'm doing nothing to achieve it, and it perversely mixes with slight depression
>>14690446
I've always considered drugs a meme, and i'm certainly not charismatic enough to go out on the street and buy it from someone, nor do I own such friends.
But I'll add this book to the list aswell

[Anonymous No.14690633]

>>14690384
>being in relationships with girls I know but are taken by acquaintances
>having a high paying job that I love and good at
>revenge fantasies
>being in a band and performing in front of an audience where a girl that turned me down happens to be in, or just a girl I like
>taking down a terrorist that's about to shoot up a toy store and fighting him which brings me near death. I get resuscitated and get to be all chill and aloof about it on TV
>hang out with friends and girl I like/turned me down shows up with Chad love interest and I physically or intellectually btfo him in front of her
>hiking in a Nordic country where I meet a scientist in a café and he offers me a job on a whale research ship(just simple dock crew) and I get to see whales and the ocean and shit
>I get really good at a hobby and people find out indirectly and think I'm the shit
Every day. I barely have any friends left, my parents think I'm a total failure because I quit uni and I'm about to lose my job. Should I off myself yay or nay?

[Anonymous No.14690661]

>>14690633
Nay
have you tried writing or drawing any of your fantasies out? Even though I don't own any paint supplies, I'd imagine painting somewhat being a quite time and imagination-utilizing activity, with which you can avoid doing nothing
Basically do maybe some sort of concept portraits, whether photography, pencil drawing, painting or digital 3d modelling. That would maybe spark some sort of new interest

[Anonymous No.14690667]

What if you also daydream to masturbate instead of watching porn? Is that a coomder?

[Anonymous No.14690685]

>>14688970
Oblomov

[Anonymous No.14690716]

>>14690667
Possibly
But my intention with the OP image wasn't to give of a wanker/coomer vibe, just an exhausted out of touch daydreamer btw

[Anonymous No.14690966]

>>14690661
I feel bad when I engage in creative hobbies. I live in an americanised shithole with >muh money >muh competition and >gotttaa goooo fasterrrr, so I've been conditioned since childhood to create only if it's productive or has monetary value. The only thing I can enjoy without feeling too bad is reading.

[Anonymous No.14691057]

>>14689495
>Normal people would scorn you for doing that.
listening the song you like on repeat is the normiest thing out there, 50% of these -oomer memes include most mundane, normal shit that's stuck in everyone's head

[Anonymous No.14691069]

>>14688970
mind if i steal this meme?it's basically me so gonna save it

[Anonymous No.14691112]

>>14689324
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect

[Anonymous No.14691368]

>>14690966
even writing makes you feel bad?
A while ago i started writing a diary, but instead of daily, i just kind of write in it whenever i have some idea or feel really bad/good.
It's a word-doc, so i don't view it as a creative thing. Mostly an arbitrary journal
>>14691069
go ahead. that's what they're for

[Anonymous No.14691483]

>>14690633
why is it every one of you basedboy tards immedietly thinking about "offing yourself" at the slightest inconvenience? have you no resolve at all? do you know more than half the world dont even get proper food? is your problem anything close to that you whiny self absorbed piece of crap ?

[Anonymous No.14691567]

>>14688970
>frequently reminisce about the days when i would lie around my apartment alone on the weekends smoking tons of weed and masturbating all night
>prefer my life now and sober but still sometimes miss the huge dopamine hits of being a degenerate drug abuser

[Anonymous No.14691624]

A fellow maladaptive daydreaming bro, truly the most /lit/ mental illness

[Anonymous No.14691668]

>>14690384
I frequently daydream about conversing with strangers, or just communicating with other people in general. I also sometimes daydream about being a famous artist or designer, or imagine how people would react if I killed myself.

[Anonymous No.14691764]

>>14690384
>imagine an idealized me who would lead a cool and interesting life
>project myself in fictional universes I enjoy and expand on them in my mind
>imagine conversations that never happened but could happen with people I know, and spin it in a way that would make our exchange interesting
>listen to music or watch something aesthetically pleasing, imagine I was the one to come up with it, and imagine what kind of reactions my peers would have
>usually do all this with a musical background, but not always
>when listening to a melancholic or sad song, imagine various sad or emotionally crushing scenarios, mostly involving myself going through some kind of physical harm, although I derive no pleasure from it, only some kind of perverse satisfaction
That's mostly it. Writing this down made me physically cringe.

[Anonymous No.14691786]

>>14688970
This is one of those "conditions" curable by forceful, nonsexual slapping, isn't it

[Anonymous No.14691837]

>>14690384
>Scenarios where I open up and talk about what I’ve been thinking of recently
>A better version of myself overcoming my current struggles and frustrations while achieving my goals
>Sweet anime fights and melodrama

[Anonymous No.14691838]

>>14691786
Only if it's severity is known as 'cause of death'.

[Anonymous No.14691848]

>>14690384
>What specifically do you guys daydream about?
Having a gf/bf

[Anonymous No.14691863]

>>14690384
>What specifically do you guys daydream about?
I build worlds and species. Animals, civilization builders, adventurers, adventures...
It's usually lewd as well, and is heavily influenced by my preferences.

[Anonymous No.14691898]

>>14688970
Mastering Your Adult ADHD, Oxford Press
Taking Charge of Adult ADHD, Russell Barkley

[Anonymous No.14692330]

Jesus lads, this hit me hard. How can we transform this condition into something of value?

[Anonymous No.14692383]

>>14688970

that's me alright

[Anonymous No.14692569]

>>14689468
i did like ten for a faux usfl and have done other sports as well when i was into them, usually just details of playoff games, which teams were good which years, which players were good/not.
i might try to do it for like a fantasy world so it could maybe make a book

[Anonymous No.14692635]

>>14688970
>maladaptive

LMAO, implying being well-adapted to modernity is a sign of health.

[Anonymous No.14692669]

>>14692330
Honestly, what i often daydream of is a group of friends who i share a sense of humor, taste of aesthetics and values with. With whom I'd fulfill creative aspirations with and just spend time doing new shit with.
In reality the people i pretend to be my friends really suck, and the last couple of times i've got to know new people, they don't bring to the table according to the standards set by my daydreams
a vicious cycle

[Anonymous No.14692689]

>>14689481
based R4 poster

[Anonymous No.14693011]

>>14690384
Just this one girl. We met online 4 years ago, skyped every day for a while, almost met up, but i kinda chickened out of pursuing her fully because of her somewhat chaotic personality, which both attracted and scared me. Sometimes I'll stay up until 7am fueled by nothing more than my "day"dreaming about her and the life we could have/could've had together.

[Anonymous No.14693018]

>>14693011
This sounds debilitating

[Anonymous No.14693029]

>>14693018
yup

[Anonymous No.14693144]

>>14692669
i feel like 4chan has introduced me to a world of esoteric tastes that no one in life can life up to, be it films, literature, music, or even video games. it's so difficult to find people who share my interests. they'd rather just eat hot chip and lie etc.

[Anonymous No.14693155]

>>14693029
Why don't you stop? Do you feel that it is beyond your control?

[Anonymous No.14693171]

>>14690384
explaining myself to joe rogan or god as my faith fluctuates wildly.

[Anonymous No.14693201]

>>14690384
just this one girl and what couldve been
i want to forget her so bad bros

[Anonymous No.14693239]

>>14690384
Usually scenes of great violence and depravity.

[Anonymous No.14693913]

You guys need to force yourselves out of the house and go get some real memories

[Anonymous No.14693957]

>>14689324
The hivemind is real

[Anonymous No.14693971]

>>14693171
Good thing I'm not the only one that dayreams about being on the JRE

[Anonymous No.14693981]

>>14690620
DXM is just over the counter cough syrup . Do research before trying

[Anonymous No.14694308]

>>14690633
>having a high paying job that I love and good at
I literally can't even imagine such a thing.

[Anonymous No.14694318]

>>14693144
i know what you mean
but then i look in the mirror and notice, i am not being a charismatic figure who would be comfortable with trying to push my friends into more interesting directions, esoteric, aesthetic and world view-wise

>>14693913
this is what i've actually been practicing for the last 1,5 years. The realization of "i gotta get out" is something that is driven into, instead of heard and then executed,
I frequently go out for 1-2hour walks, especially when sun's out, but that doesn't do much for me socially. a significant thing that i frequently forget due to my self-loathing, is the fact that i've succeeded to make getting out of the house comfortable. Something that wasn't the case before i could put the problem into words, is now a norm i frequently strive towards.
This keeps me whitepilled on a lot of my problems, although i do have a lot of lonely, antisocial depressive periods. Patience is needed and the open mind to realize the problems

[Anonymous No.14694346]

>>14690620
You can get DXM at any drug store. I'd also recommend trying it, at least just once or twice. As someone with OCD who can spend hours and hours sitting in a chair daydreaming it was a pretty freeing experience. I stopped doing it though because I didn't want to get hooked on it.

[Anonymous No.14694348]

>>14691764
not alone on the music ones anon
what genre?

[Anonymous No.14694357]

>>14690384
About pic related and having a daughteru with her mostly.

[Anonymous No.14694378]

>>14691483
>do you know more than half the world dont even get proper food
can't they grow it and don't breed like rabbits in between?

[Anonymous No.14694503]

>>14690384
>What specifically do you guys daydream about?
For the past 4 or so years I've been creating a world and multiple stories that are all a part of a bigger story.
I want to one day have all of these daydreams written down and published, the only problem I'm facing is my general inability to write my thoughts onto paper.

[Anonymous No.14694568]

>>14688978

congrats on this bro, i dabble myself, usually players switching teams and turning around shit franchies, playoff upsets, some sudden off-the-field death tragedies, and btfo monologues in press conferences. i don't even follow nfl but something about it grabs my mind

[Anonymous No.14694584]

>>14694503

start drilling your prose bro

[Anonymous No.14694731]

>>14690384
Actually completing my undertakings, instead of abandoning halfway. Never fullly fleshing out an idea, always getting bored, distracted, wandering off into some other sparkly venture and leaving a halfbaked dream behind. I daydream about the opposite.

[Anonymous No.14695090]

>>14694568
you guys are weirdly fanatic

is this how normies feel when you tell them about your love of literature?

[Anonymous No.14695653]

>>14693239
Tell me about some of them please

[Anonymous No.14695974]

>there are people playing Bannerlord RIGHT NOW and I didn't get accepted into the beta

[Anonymous No.14696116]

>>14694348
>what genre?
A lot of them, but I alternate
Right now it's mostly jazz, some blues and soul, some classical, some minimalist composers like Glass, electronic and ambient/experimental
Anime, movie and game OSTs as well
What about you?

[Anonymous No.14696280]

>>14692569
this is gay, and undoes what you said cool before

[Anonymous No.14697402]

>>14688978
>>14694568
t.Gayron Rodgers.

[Anonymous No.14697651]

>>14688978
I can identify with this. Don't know if I'm autistic, but ever since very young I have kept a habit of walking around with a pencil, waving it around and mumbling to myself. I used to pretend my head was a TV channel, think about different shows and sort of imagine their episodes. Then It became more like a fantasy sports league for local basketball, and for the last couple years I've also been doing imaginary lectures by professionals in imaginary fields (despite all that, my imagination isn't very wild, and I often find myself re-imagining real sequences with some details switched up, idk).

[Anonymous No.14697658]

>>14689324
The oomer memes are either shitposts or journaling for people who would feel awkward about journaling.

[Anonymous No.14697663]

>>14693171
>>14693971
based and chimp-pilled
what would you be on the show for?

[Anonymous No.14697667]

>>14697663
I would play the JRE-meta and constantly (yet subtly) bring up topics that forces a jamie-bring up, making the show fragmented and off the rails and essentially stealing de facto control from Joe himself.

[Anonymous No.14697683]

>>14695653
A group of militants who desert in a civil war, fleeing the ramifications into the andes, there they stay with tribes of native urarinans, they rape and murder one man and one woman, then they splay them onto the fields which they farm their grain. They barge into the shamans hut and murder him, they drink his brew, they are hallucinating. The villagers overrun the house and begin murdering the militans, they burn them and stab them with spears. The Militans flee down the andes while being chased, they come downwards to a flooded river, there they scatter into the jungles and are chased and murdered by the villagers who burn them alive at the shore. The remaining militants are insane, they shudder in the endless foliage of the jungle, the flooded river roars in the distance as the waters beat themselves upon the rocks. They wander aimlessly for what seems like days, time a foreign concept to them. They drag themselves like dogs across the mudded ground, some not dressed, others painting themselves black with charcoal. The heat is maddening and they can not find water nor food. They stumble in the dark of the night upon a woman who begins mating with them and she describes the demons which haunt them and why they suffer as they do, they drink from her brew and she consumes them whole.

[Anonymous No.14697688]

>>14694568
based

[Anonymous No.14697709]

>>14688970
What´s even so bad about escapism?
I will never amount to anything in my life so why not forget it for a few minutes and feel whole again for even a small moment
even if people say it´s "unhealthy" or "unproductive".
And dont come with self improvement. I know its good for certain aspects but it wont heal you.

>>14690384
>>14693171
Also interviews. It´s nice to imagine to talk to someone freely without any baggage and expectations society puts on us.

[Anonymous No.14697715]

>>14697709
>What´s even so bad about escapism?
This. I imagined being together with a girl from HS and it was like being in a dream (like a sleeping dream), I felt the feeling of being in love for like a whole day afterwards.
Fuck muh reallifefags

[Anonymous No.14697721]

>>14690446
>DXM
How much do I need to take for this effect?

[Anonymous No.14697754]

>>14697683
>they drink from her brew and she consumes them whole.

LOL great ending, thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.14697764]

>>14697683
Burroughsesque. Just make the woman a red haired boy and make the brew Yage and you're set.

[Anonymous No.14697843]

>>14690384
>being on stage and playing music
>some fantasy or scifi shit that I probably stole (un)consciously
>fucking some (insta)thots
Mostly while listening to music and pacing around in my room. It's probably just powerfantasies.

[Anonymous No.14697854]

>>14697843
I had to construct an elaborate fantasy just to give her better feet

[Anonymous No.14697880]

>>14690384
where i can talk to a girl and she is very understanding because she has a cousin who is also an autistic aspie like me

[Anonymous No.14697890]

>>14697880
elaborate please--would like to hear more.

[Anonymous No.14697913]

>>14697890
i just wrote maybe 500 words and deleted it because of how ridiculous it sounds. i dont want to be here

[Anonymous No.14698318]

bump

[Anonymous No.14698405]

>>14690384
>going back in time and handling relationships differently(kinda like you said)
>relive the best moment in my life
>suddenly attacking someone nearby me. smashing their head into a wall. beating them to death.
>if i'm busy then imagining not having any work or responsibilities to take care of
>thinking about my story i have been writing for ten years(almost at a million words) and fantasizing about being published and respected

[Anonymous No.14699058]

>>14698405
>>going back in time and handling relationships differently(kinda like you said)
>>relive the best moment in my life
>>suddenly attacking someone nearby me. smashing their head into a wall. beating them to death.
jesus
this hits really close home. especially that violent thing. Anytime someone's being unnecessarily loud especially
I walk past them totally casually, but noticing their behavior that i'm sort of "alerted" by. Only after i'm home or away from them, i start to get these "if the guy actually tried to push/spit on me, i would've taken him to the ground and started kicking his face"
sounds hilarious typing this out

[Anonymous No.14699070]

>>14688970
>90 replies in
>like, two book reccs
what the hell happened to this board, you fucking fags? I was gone for 15 months and it's even worse than it was back then

[Anonymous No.14699082]

Nehajev's Escape is about exactly that, if you can find a translation.

[Anonymous No.14699329]

>>14688970
https://discord.gg/B8z4G37

[Anonymous No.14699362]

Book of Disquiet is all about this. A great book. I wish I could read it in Portuguese.

[Anonymous No.14699570]

>>14699070
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was>>14699070

[Anonymous No.14699714]

>>14699070
/lit/ is basically the replacement of /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.14699798]

>>14699070
Because tv became /pol2/ and his became /pol3/. And /lit/ is now on the way to become /pol4/. The good threads are made by refuggees from other boards

[Anonymous No.14699807]

>>14699714
tru tru tru

[Anonymous No.14700115]

>>14694731
feel this hard

[Anonymous No.14700237]

>>14697913
Kek

[Anonymous No.14700653]

How do I improve my imagination/visualization? I'm not sure I'm asking the right question, since my mental picturing isn't half bad, and by quasi-aphantasic NPC standards it's godly, but my imaginings are very listless. They have very little direction, and seem to be more like mental background noise than daydreams. They are like short snippets of stories that would be interesting had they were expanded upon, though they never are and are quickly replaced and forgotten about, sprinkled with some monologue about esoteric bullshit. Nothing like Chad in >>14691624, which is my personal goal.
I guess the better question would be how to leash my imagination and lead it where I want it to go?

[Anonymous No.14700763]

>>14688970
I day dream that i am this fantastic salsa dancer and i randomly pick up qts on the street and start dancing with them and bring them back to my nice apartment with a view and have sex with them.

[Anonymous No.14700780]

>>14700653
>They are like short snippets of stories that would be interesting had they were expanded upon, though they never are and are quickly replaced and forgotten about
to somewhat solve this forgetting would be to keep a journal. Don't ovethink and think you should buy a separate notebook or somehow stylize/format it, simply write down "reoccurring mental image" and what sort of happens.
I can relate and say that these "mental snippets" are often 2-3 seconds, so you might think it's not worth writing, but once you've piled up a decent amount of daydreams into text, it could build itself and lead somewhere from there..

[Anonymous No.14701043]

Anyone else dreaming of Joe Hill???