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[Anonymous No.14669558]

What belief system do you subscribe to and what convinced you to it?

[Anonymous No.14669571]

Neo-Advaita with Muslim characteristics

St. Guenon inspired me

[Anonymous No.14669579]

>>14669558
Diet-Stoicism
Peoples opinions were effecting my actions too much. Stoic exercises helped calm my nerves and gain some confidence

[Anonymous No.14669599]

>>14669558
Islam.
It makes sense the most

[Anonymous No.14669605]

>>14669599
>It makes sense the most
explain

[Anonymous No.14669607]

>>14669558
Catholicism.
God's infinite love and mercy.

[Anonymous No.14669618]

>>14669558
Your mom
Her fat pussy bush

[Anonymous No.14669619]

I subscribe to no system, though I will gladly put your tools in my toolbox.

[Anonymous No.14669631]

>>14669605
Idea of God in Islam is logical, not the confusing mess that trinity is or some 9 handed goddess.

[Anonymous No.14669633]

>>14669619
keep your hands off my tools, nigger.

[Anonymous No.14669645]

>>14669633
Im going to steal your wrench you triplefag

[Anonymous No.14669649]

>>14669645
nooo not the wrencherino!

[Anonymous No.14669650]

>>14669558
Practical atheism. A degree of skepticism. Bayesianism for ontology.

Codified religions are fine. Meme religions are for faggot cringelords.

[Anonymous No.14669746]

>>14669558
Traditionalism, from reading Guenon (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.14669801]

>>14669558
Some weird Jungian pseud self construction informed by my lived experience with psychosis.

There's a collective consciousness as a counterpart to the collective unconscious. This entity has no individual agency, but can be conceived as the set of all sensory organs recording stimulus.

Gestalt communication uses mirror neurons (mimesis) and genetic information (epigenetics) to pass information between members of the consciousness entity in real time and through generations. Basically, the physical means of the potential for a connection like this to exist are already proven to exist.

Patterns of both environment fit and behavior create grooves of action. Simple stuff like smell food and appetite increases. Complex stuff like repeated dishonesty leading to social suspicion and ostracism.

Grooves coalesce to form archetypes as the purest incarnate form of pattern driven behavior. Archetypes, because of their organic deterministic quality, are life forms representing the highest meaning achievable.

The consciousness entity is NOT omniscient. It is entirely constructed out of the past and has nothing to say about the future other than the organic determinism of archetypal templates. The collective cannot perceive that future, but the individual unit can.

The most useful model for interfacing with this consciousness is polytheism. Ascribing divinity to the emerging archetypal patterns of behavior.

Morality and rationality both limit the output of the collective consciousness with their restrictive determinism. This limits the expression of archetypes. As archetypes are "sealed" away, because morality or rationality forbids their existence, the rest of the pantheon diminishes as well. The archetypes exist in an ecosystem. The hero's victory is defined by the strength of the foe he faces. No enemy no hero. Meaning itself begins to fade from the world.

A completely amoral society would hand the reigns back to the archetypes. Our lives would be nastier, more dangerous, and likely irrational. But We would never want for meaning or sincerity again.

In truth, the individual cannot handle that much meaning. Which is what makes the determinism offered by morality and rationality so seductive. It whispers to our fears and insecurities. Trading our full potential for colorless safety.

[Anonymous No.14669874]

I am a newfag to reading and making up my own mind in general, so I'm mostly undecided. Neoplatonism, at the surface level (again, I haven't read much), seems to make the most sense to me. Also, I unironically attracted to Judaism, because /pol/ memes had the opposite effect on me in that their constant bitching about Jews ruling the world made me wonder what exactly caused them to gain this position, especially on the spiritual side of things. Looking into it, I prefer their conception of God over the Christian one.

[Anonymous No.14670515]

I am really, really attracted to girls with thick, full hair. I'm sure it is because I was balding as a teenager. But I am seriously attracted to it more than any other feature.

[Anonymous No.14670562]

Hardcore Catholic. I wouldn't describe myself as "Trad," because while I do attend the Latin Mass often I also go to Novus Ordo Masses sometimes as well. I get my political ideas directly from the Church; religion directly informs my politics.

I was raised Catholic and never exactly fell away from the Church. However, two things strongly intensified my faith in the last five or so years. First, I started to pray the Rosary every single day, and ever since that started I've been much more devoted and devout. Second, in 2017 I had a serious of mystical, miraculous experiences like I've never had before or since. Literally some /x/-level stuff. It blew me away and basically made my faith as solid as iron. I genuinely think it would be impossible for me not to be Catholic at this point. And, like I said, I'm SO Catholic at this point that my religion informs everything else about my life, especially my political opinions.

[Anonymous No.14670578]

>>14669558
I'm more or less a Christian heretic. I try to live by the words of Jesus, but also am interested in Alchemy and Hermeticism. I've been denounced by my Protestant pastor as a "Gnostic", but he cheated on his wife and destroyed the congregation shortly after, so it doesn't really bother me. I got this way by reading Kierkegaard and Tomberg, among many others such as Jung, Evola, and Plotinus.

[Anonymous No.14670599]

>>14669558
Catholic Christianity, because every word that came from Jesus' mouth is true, and because it is the only denomination that remains wholly true to the Church Fathers. But that's not to say that I don't doubt, or that I want to go bathe at Lourdes some day. I find so much of Catholic culture stupid and irritating (and in the Protestant world it's even worse). On top of that, the Vatican is a viper-pit and most "catholics" are Catholic in name only. Everything is a disappointment, the Church too, except God Himself. His wisdom remain irrefutable and the only thing that gives me clarity and strength to face this stupid world.

[Anonymous No.14670606]

>>14670578
>but he cheated on his wife and destroyed the congregation shortly after
are you that ex-baptist anon who recently warned us to never be baptist? also your pastor is right

[Anonymous No.14670630]

>>14669558
Catholicism, mostly because I was raised as one. Other than that, I don't really cling to belief systems.

[Anonymous No.14670641]

>>14669558
what kind of faggot believes in things
i do not believe, i either know or do not know

[Anonymous No.14670648]

>>14670562
Then why are you on this site?

[Anonymous No.14670654]

>people seriously replying
Who cares about what you believe? At least write a funny answer.

[Anonymous No.14670655]

>>14670606
Recently? No

[Anonymous No.14670678]

None
I am unable to positively back any belief or narrative, I obsessively play devil's advocate with myself and have lost any ability to innately trust my gut instinct
When I am lucky, I will automatically act and react in accordance with a seemingly stable set of values and priorities but intellectually I can not confidently defend them, assuming I can even divine what they are
I am sure of nothing but the fact that any positively defined opinion I have held in my life has eventually caused me doubt and embarrassment once I am confronted by that ever-present fact that no matter what you believe, there is nearly ALWAYS someone who is smarter and/or more knowledgeable than you who will disagree, and it will be beyond your ability to defend yourself against them
I am nothing, I believe nothing, I am just a machine that takes in beliefs and cycles through them, alternatively adopting and attacking them in place

[Anonymous No.14670696]

Hermeticist or natural philosophyst

[Anonymous No.14670720]

>>14669558

Buddhism, because after you cut all the crap, from blackmail promises of eternal heaven by doing this or that to pure selfish nihilism, from hubrys of an idea of progress by enacting the merchant caste to profit from your life to indifferent alienated hedonism, all that's left is buddhism as the only way out of craving and meaningless suffering.

[Anonymous No.14670749]

>>14669571
May I ask, my dear sir, what is it about the general guenon dick sucking on this board ?

He's ok, nothing against him, but I don't get why he's presented as some sort of demigod all over this board ?

Is it just a meme or does he have a real following here ?

[Anonymous No.14670759]

>>14670749
There's at least one guy who's actually read him and shills him probably in good faith, then a couple of Muslim discorders who view him as a Gateway to Islam for the White Man, then a few more who think it's funny to shitpost about him.

[Anonymous No.14670762]

I don't like to stick to philosophies for too long, or get stuck inside a belief system.

However, right now, on a metpahysical level, the closest would be syntheism.

It's a sort of system in which god has three aspects, one that is not (atheism), on that is nature/reality (pantheism) and one that is subjective consciousness (subjectivism)

also, it is accepted in syntheism that all ideas of god are ultimately man made. Internet is the womb of the next god(s), as stated by the theorry if syntheism.

Overall, I don't give a fuck.

Sometimes i feel good, sometimes, ok, sometimesshit. I try to see what all these have in common and that's my absolute.

[Anonymous No.14670767]

>>14670759
ok

thx

[Anonymous No.14670802]

>>14669558
>no i don't need religion my life still has meaning without it and i dont hate myself every day and want to die yeah im really happy thanks science

[Anonymous No.14670845]

Just like, do good stuff and be nice to people.

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>>14669558
I ride a motorcycle through the various Belief Systems. Sometimes along with them, sometimes I just cut across without a care.

[Anonymous No.14670894]

>>14670851
how are you so consistently cringe

[Anonymous No.14670969]

>>14670851
PLEASE just go to tumblr. I don't understand why you aren't already there, it's the perfect site for you. They'll love you there, your posts would get hundreds of upvotes I'm sure. Imagine, no more Anons harassing you, constantly asking for feet pics. You'll finally be accepted as a MtF in an online community!

[Anonymous No.14670972]

>>14669558
catholicism, aquinas

[Anonymous No.14670975]

>>14670972

[Anonymous No.14670977]

>>14669619
fag

[Anonymous No.14670984]

>>14669607
>>14670562
>>14670630
>>14670972
based

[Anonymous No.14670988]

Well, I’m an atheist but currently stuck in Mormonism due to everyone in my large extended family being involved with the church. If I left, they probably wouldn’t completely shut me out but I’d definitely be treated differently. Perhaps even worse. I was raised in the church and I know it’s bs but I just can’t bring myself to leave. Mormons say it’s the “holy ghost” prompting you to stay. I say it’s the cult programming fucking with me. I don’t know what to do but fuck.

[Anonymous No.14670992]

>>14670972
kindly fuck off. read ed feser or something, I'm not about to type 300 words for your pea brain.

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>>14670894
>>14670969
Crybabies.
Crybabies should be on the report list
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QcVXX1E3o64

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14671066]

>>14669874
I'm attracted to Jewish cunny

[Anonymous No.14671093]

>>14669558
OP is a literal retard. Trying to literally adopt an ideology. That is the path to suffering. The belief system I subscribe to is my own solely, just like every thinking persons and every truly religious persons.

[Anonymous No.14671097]

>>14669558
the belief that modern "jews" are those described in revelations 2:9 and 3:9 and are the personification of Satan

[Anonymous No.14671100]

>>14670851
what do you believe the role of the state should be?

[Anonymous No.14671113]

>>14669558
Nondenominational Anabaptist Christian. I've witnessed some faith healings and have had God come through for me in some big ways. I figure there's a lot of philosophical proof for the existence of a Creator, especially the Christian God. I've been a Christian since I was a teen but I was baptized just last November.

[Anonymous No.14671119]

>>14671113
Oh, and I also practice stoicism.

[Anonymous No.14671138]

>>14671113
>Anabaptist
Do you subscribe to the traditional doctrine of the Fall (cf. Augustine) or the Anabaptist view articulated by Conrad Grebel that fallenness is not innate but caused by society?

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>>14671100
None.
The people ought to elect themselves right out from underneath the oligarchic representatives in their own municipalities

[Anonymous No.14671282]

>>14669558
My belief system is that girls in trad dresses can get it

[Anonymous No.14671303]

>>14670851
They are right. You are cringe. I think you a decently developed belief system from what I can piece together, but the photos you post are cringe, and your dialetic style is cringe.

[Anonymous No.14671315]

>>14671066
An understandable, if unfortunate predilection.

>>14670988
Not too knowledgeable about Mormonism, but if it’s like most denominations you can always just be peripherally a part of the faith. Like Jews and jewery. I’d hesitate to call it “cultural Mormonism”, but usually you don’t have to make a hard break. Most Mormons I’ve meet seem pretty nice and genuine, though the cultometer is a bit up there.

[Anonymous No.14671327]

stoicism

ive come to feel like being emotional at all as a man is only a detriment

reading stoic philosophy was also very therapeutic

[Anonymous No.14671342]

Mormon, but I've recently been reading both Catholic and Orthodox stuff. Recently I've been reading The Imitation of Christ.
I've had a couple very beautiful mystical experiences and one that terrified me to the bone. It would be an act of wilful ignorance to not believe.

[Anonymous No.14671361]

>>14671342
>Mormon
You're so close to discovering the fullness of the Incarnation and the reality of the Trinity

[Anonymous No.14671368]

>>14670975
Not the guy you replied to but what the fuck did Hume (or rather whoever made this powerpoint slide) mean by this?
>Aquinas is wrong to make a connection between cause and effect
???

[Anonymous No.14671370]

>>14671361
chill autist

[Anonymous No.14671377]

>>14669558
>What belief system do you subscribe to
I want to live.
>what convinced you to it?
Anime.

[Anonymous No.14671382]

>>14669558
faith
nothing convinced me

[Anonymous No.14671399]

>>14669874
>neoplatonist
>yahwehist
>look guys i like judaism because other people don't! kekeke!
You will never, ever be a Jew. Read the Talmud. It is VERBOTEN for Goyim to read about Judaism, a malefaction penalizable by death. Stop your narcissistic and nescient LARPing, you insufferable pseud.

[Anonymous No.14671427]

>>14671176
I could see that working, but how is that not a new state?

[Anonymous No.14671432]

>>14669558
wu wei

[Anonymous No.14671453]

>>14671432
for me its just wu

[Anonymous No.14671573]

>>14671453
What's your method, man?

[Anonymous No.14671579]

>>14669558
Christianity
Life

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>>14671427
The same way labor vouchers aren't money. There are subtle differences from the two-faced tyranny we live under and these free-associations of plenty. Decentralized, we'd be free to experiment. Places will continue to have names and borders for a time, but legal documents declaring nationhood? So an elite ruling class can imprison those they can't indoctrinate? A standing army to steal from other nations?
I'm eager to see an end to it. Only a responsible people will do it, something we're unfortunately lacking an abundance of.

[Anonymous No.14671825]

>>14671427
>>14671629
State always exists in the general sense of the word, even for huntergathers, but the modern state is an abomination that needs to be but never will be purged.

[Anonymous No.14671837]

>>14669558
Atheistic egoism with a hint of stoicism

[Anonymous No.14671893]

Judaism. As an young adult I refused to acknowledge the existence of something above us. Now, I see that I was mistaken and you can't really deny your roots.

[Anonymous No.14671913]

>Gnostic Christian syncretism
It sounds really stupid, but it's true. I was raised atheist but abandoned that in college after having a couple spiritual experiences (meeting a woman who didn't exist, feeling God's presence in my life, etc.). I started crashing and taking theology and religious studies classes because I didn't know where to start. At the end of one semester, I was sleep deprived and writing several big essays on religious stuff. One was comparing and contrasting ritual and practice in Jodo Shinshu Buddhism and the sort of Christian mysticism described in "The Cloud of Unknowing;" the other was on the various iterations of the cosmological argument for God's existence. When I woke up the next morning, I was thoroughly convinced. I had a professor I was close with jokingly describe me as a "semi-perennialist kook" when introducing me to another professor.

[Anonymous No.14671919]

>>14669605
When you are inbred, it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.14671995]

Christian Catholic with interests in Platonism, Neoplotinism, Stoicism, Neopythagoreanism, Hermeticism, German Idealism, Advaita Vedanta, Zoroastrianism, Theravada Buddhism, among others.

[Anonymous No.14672027]

Stoicism, I guess
Life
I was a depressed and nihilistic atheist before. Now I believe god resides within my consciousness. I was raised catholic, but I feel I can’t subscribe to it anymore because I have an interest on occultism, Nordic/Icelandic paganism and bear worship

[Anonymous No.14672157]

>>14669558
"We live in sovereign civil kingdoms subject to the supreme sovereign God, whose providence is recognized by all sovereign civil powers. This is made plain to human understanding by the explicit avowal of sovereign powers in adding to their titles of majesty such phrases as "by divine providence" or "by the grace of God," through which they must publicly profess to have received their kingdoms. So that if worship of providence were forbidden, the natural consequence would be their fall, for a nation of fatalists or casualists or atheists never existed in the world."

"The Stoics seek to mortify the senses and the Epicureans make them the criterion. For both deny providence, the former chaining themselves to fate, the latter abandoning themselves to chance. The latter moreover affirm that the human soul dies with the body. Both should be called monastic or solitary philosophers."

"Minds, to make good use of the knowledge of God, must humble themselves, just as on the other hand arrogance will lead them to atheism, for atheists become giants in spirit, ready to say with Horace: Caelum if sum pettmus stultitia, "heaven itself we assail in our folly."

[Anonymous No.14672221]

>>14669631

[Anonymous No.14672439]

>>14669558
Philosophical Judaism.

Praying improves my self-confidence, and makes me feel better and more optimistic about life in general. When I read stories from the Torah, or hear parables from my Rabbi, I feel that I can genuinely apply it to my day-to-day life. Ever since I've striven to improve my connection to my faith, without taking everything literally, I've noticed a genuine improvement of my life and personal happiness.

[Anonymous No.14672462]

>>14669558
So where can I go to find more delicious Paki thots?

[Anonymous No.14672496]

>>14669558
>What belief system
Taoism.

>what convinced you
I was Taoist before I heard about it, I adopted the label for convenience afterwards.

[Anonymous No.14672512]

>>14671368
Not the person you are asking, but perhaps he refers to the counter-intuitive nature of the cause-effect system of thought?

I mean, without the cause-effect system coloring your world view, it becomes apparent that two events necessitate each other, rather than one causing the other.

[Anonymous No.14672788]

>>14672439
Die in a fire kike

[Anonymous No.14672818]

>>14671138
I've never read either author but I believe in the former assertion. Imo sin is not just inherent and demonstrated as bad things we do, but it's also the cause of the broken and unhappy state of the world. It's the default way of things; I just call it brokenness. The ultimate triumph of sin is death and the only remedy is eternal life through Christ Jesus.

[Anonymous No.14673181]

>>14672027
Stoic, but you have interest in bear worship?

[Anonymous No.14673228]

>>14671893
why that and not other monotheistic religions

[Anonymous No.14673255]

>>14669558
i hate dogma.

[Anonymous No.14673361]

Might is right

[Anonymous No.14673386]

This is a Greek board. And it makes reddit and samefags seethe.