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[Anonymous No.14659251]

Was Brave New World a utopia or a dystopia?

[Anonymous No.14659255]

Dystopia.

[Anonymous No.14659259]

>>14659251
Given the spectacle at the end I think the answer is obvious.

[Anonymous No.14659263]

Fruitopia

[Anonymous No.14659265]

It's called Oxycontin.

[Anonymous No.14659268]

>>14659251
Dystopia. What a stupid question

[Anonymous No.14659272]

>>14659255
What the fuck? BNW was the height of techno-accelerationism.

[Anonymous No.14659342]

>>14659251
about 1/4 women in their 40-50s are on antidepressents already

Soma is well on the way

[Anonymous No.14659346]

It's called Cyanide.

[Anonymous No.14659350]

>>14659251
who cares

[Anonymous No.14659368]

>>14659350
You should. This is a peak society. Instead of confronting the root cause of why loneliness has turned into such an epidemic, Big Pharma rolls out yet another pill to sell to the public to keep them docile and productive

[Anonymous No.14659496]

>>14659251
It was a shit book

[Anonymous No.14659520]

>>14659368
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.14659529]

>>14659251
Everything Kaczynski warns us about.

[Anonymous No.14659531]

>>14659368
read kierkegaard

[Anonymous No.14659534]

>>14659251
I have enough sheets on my bed I dont need drugs too

[Anonymous No.14659546]

>>14659251
>noooooo science isn't allowed to improve the world
>our sky daddy wants us to suffer
all christians deserve to die.

[Anonymous No.14659572]

>>14659251
If scientists made a pill that cures hunger, would you take it?

Of course not, it would kill you.

[Anonymous No.14659638]

>>14659546
>What is cyberpunk
Yeah DARPA projects are bringing your utopia fedoralord

[Anonymous No.14659639]

>>14659368
Where do you think that answering that question with "that is a dystopia" leads? The question is irrelevant. To attempt to get at it morally resolves in knots that you can't untangle. Any critique of those things starts from amoral grounds. The ground you are standing on shattered (or worse, passe). Who are you to judge the last man? If you can answer that, then it should be clear why it is such a terrible question.

[Anonymous No.14659641]

>>14659529
I've started reading Kaczynski, when do I start to feel better?

[Anonymous No.14659648]

>>14659546
I’m an atheist, bro. You don’t need God in order to reject the March of Scientism.

[Anonymous No.14659671]

>”I’m an atheist, bro. You don’t need God in order to reject the March of Scientism.”

[Anonymous No.14659704]

>>14659671
Don’t ask questions. Just consume product and wait for next product.

[Anonymous No.14659732]

>”I’m not a Christian but I cuck for them and think science is bullshit because Redditors said some gay shit that doesn’t affect me on their website so that means science has failed in such a blackpilled doomer gloomer I don’t actually believe anything and just desolately want to stand out and be different”

[Anonymous No.14659871]

>>14659251
I think it's a utopia insofar as people can leave, and there isn't any real dishonesty in what the world government is up to.

Now, the real-life social systems the book was attempting to critique-- bourgeois capitalism and its insistence on the subduction of all individual desires and traits below the common good, resulting in a society in which the "ceiling" of human achievement is lowered, as well as the "floor", resulting in a society in which every person is the same amount of content-- is dystopian as hell and full of holes.

But the thing that he didn't get across in the book is that in real life, you can't just leave, join a commune, and do your own thing like the characters other than the native boy do. The bourgeois have (or had, increasingly since the 60's) a stranglehold on all society's resources. Actually, maybe you can. But the bigger problem is that the emotional and intellectual manipulations of the bourgeoisie are nowhere near as efficient as those of the worldgov, so way more people fall through the cracks. Though, maybe that wasn't true back when he wrote it.

All in all, still a great book. Way better and more applicable than 1984

[Anonymous No.14660024]

does the pill come in the form of a cute girl?

[Anonymous No.14660849]

>>14659251
Would be a hell of a lot better than 1984. It might be a dopamine brain wash, but at least it would a comfortable one.

[Anonymous No.14660854]

>>14659671
Is any opinion from an atheist worthless to you?

[Anonymous No.14660869]

everything is so bad

[Anonymous No.14660870]

>>14659251

[Anonymous No.14661201]

>>14659641
Never. you only feel worse and worse as you realize there's nothing you can do.

[Anonymous No.14661299]

>>14660869
This post is unironically profound and sad and sums up everything so neatly

[Anonymous No.14661336]

>>14659251
lmao, and that pill is called mdma

[Anonymous No.14662098]

>>14659641
when you organize with serious high quality people toward a revolutionary movement. there are already groups forming.

[Anonymous No.14662103]

>>14661201
this>>14662098

[Anonymous No.14662223]

>>14659671
Why couldnt you atleast quote the post you were making fun of

[Anonymous No.14662278]

>>14661336
lol, that would actually make you go outside and talk to real people though. Then you would make friends, stop being lonely and no longer need the pill. If you want to profit from the pill, it has to cure the symptoms of loneliness without providing a long term solution.

[Anonymous No.14662307]

>>14660024
I hear the pill's pink.