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I have finished it. I did it bros, I have finally overcome this beast. I am now ready for the next stage of my life, what will I look to next?

>> No.14654912

The science of logic. Good luck, anon.

>> No.14654942

>>14654891
Congratulations! Can you tell us briefly what have you learned from it?

>> No.14654945
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>>14654891
now the world is yours

>> No.14654948

>>14654891
Haven't read it, just read pages here and there. What is Hegel's thoughts on the self? I noticed he mentioned "I" a lot. Tell me moar

>> No.14654959

>>14654891
read hegel's logic
i'm reading his lectures on aesthetics right now

>> No.14654990

Read it again

>> No.14654996

>>14654948
Read the chapter Self-Consciousness.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/ph/phb.htm

>> No.14655003

>>14654891
Is it really mindblowing or is it autistic masturbation?

>> No.14655019

>>14654996
What the fuck bros is Hegel the western Shankara ?

>> No.14655704

>>14654891
what did you learn

>> No.14655743

are translations decent, or should I get it in German?

>> No.14655897

>>14654891
ok now you're ready for the science of logic, see you soon anon

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>> No.14656173

>>14654891
Please tell us some of your key take-aways

>> No.14656302

>>14656173
That part about lower east side Manhattan in the early 80s was crazy but sort of out of place in the book imho

>> No.14656341

I know a man who actually read the whole thing. He was living in a forest with no other book to read so he had no choice in the matter. I will be posting a short video of him reviewing the book in the next day or so, and will alert /lit/ when I do.
;-)

>> No.14656348

>>14654891
Marx

>> No.14656349

>>14656341
He has also read the Reign of Quantity...

>> No.14656365

>>14656349
...and thought it was garbage

>> No.14656393

>>14656302
What?

>> No.14656569

>>14656341
Interesting, would be a fun watch.

>> No.14656708

Jacques Derrida – From Restricted to General Economy: A Hegelianism without Reserve

Hegel is a funny guy, makes you laugh in every chapter

>> No.14656996

>reaches absolute knowing
>asks 4chan what to do next
Not what I woulda done but hey, have at it

>> No.14657050

some ideas

https://youtu.be/dHBm2MyiFLA

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>>14654891

This little known gem is much better than that Hegel trash.

>> No.14658350

>>14654891
re-read it again for the next 10 years and come back when you have fully absorbed it

>> No.14658729

>>14654891
can ONE PERSON explain WHAT THIS BOOK IS ABOUT

nobody can explain it

>> No.14658894

>>14658729
ligma

>> No.14659402

>>14658729
the experience of consciousness

>> No.14659404

>>14654891
World As Will And Representation

>> No.14659411

Heidegger's Being and Time
enjoy

>> No.14659421

>>14658729
He is attempting to give the most complete and accurate description of consciousness. From nascent perception to interactions with other consciousnesses

>> No.14659450

Would a gnostic Christian get anything out of this book? It's been recommended to me by several materialist types I know, but I've avoided it because it's a total doorstopper and I became disillusioned with materialism a long time ago now.

>> No.14659457

>>14659450
no just stick with your youtubers

>> No.14659471

>>14659457
I don't watch YouTube though. The only thing I watch is PBS Nature.

>> No.14660268

Now you're ready for John Green

>> No.14660475

>>14659450
>>14659471
This book is aimed at you, specifically. Read it, allow its tendrils to curl within your gyri and sulci, and observe as your conscious experience is slowly but surely melted away and replaced by that of the Absolute.

>> No.14660480

>>14659450
he is an absolute idealist, he thinks substance is thought

>> No.14660648

>>14660475
Sentences and posts like this is why philosophy hasn't been good since the Greeks.

>> No.14660735

>>14658729
It doesn't matter since his works were retroactively refuted by D. Bofa in the early 80s.

>> No.14660799

>>14660475
Okay, but why do you have to be so weird like that? I had to google what my gyri and sulci are and I want no tendrils touching them whatsoever.
>>14660480
That's interesting. I wonder why materialists keep pushing me to read him, then. I know it's because they're Marxists or pseudo-Marxists, but it's just strange that all of that crap would be built up on absolute idealism. Orthodox Marxists hate idealists.
>>14660735
stale.

>> No.14660804

read it in a day
booooring

>> No.14660805

>>14660799
you know Marx was famous for standing Hegel on his head, right? that was because he made Hegelian dialectics material

>> No.14660856

Which philosopher is discussed most by people who haven't actually read his work? It's almost certainly Marx, but there's a case to be made for a few others, too

>> No.14660861

>>14660856
Marx and Hegel are the two big boys for sure. Kant suffers from this too, especially his work on ethics

>> No.14660899

>>14660805
I didn't know that. I was raised by Marxists and was taught a lot of the ideas as a kid, but I never read Marx. I only really started reading things other than fiction after I had a mental break while studying in university and rejected materialism.
>>14660856
>>14660861
>Jesus

>> No.14661008

>>14660856
I'm currently at the last few pages of Anti-Ödipus and going to start with thousand plateaus afterwards and I don't believe for a second that as many people took the time to work this one out compared to how often he is talked about.

>> No.14661049

>>14658729
It's about this spirit who had a phenomenology. That's the basic premise but it gets crazier later on.

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>>14654891
>basing the stages of your life on philosophical books

>> No.14661068

>>14654891
Now explain, in precise detail, what exactly Hegel meant by this.

>> No.14661072

>>14660805
>marx made Hegel's dialectic material
Marx believed that, but he wasn't the first to do it. He got that from Feuerbach.

>> No.14661079

>>14659411
Literally not even his best work and filled with many things Heidegger would reject later in his life. Still a classic of Western philosophy but it doesn't exactly hold the same place as the Phenomenology does for Hegel precisely because Heidegger never gave that many absolutes. His more practical thoughts are quite interesting though, such as Mitsein.

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>>14654942
>briefly
Anon, I...

>> No.14661091

>>14661008
Totally agree. I've read Anti-Oedipus and it was an absolute chore. If that makes me a brainlet, so be it.

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hey /lit/, feeling kinda horny right now ;) you guys wanna see more?

>> No.14661134

>>14661130
post dick

>> No.14661136

>>14659450
>gnostic Christian
oxymoron

>> No.14661162

>>14654891
Is it true the preface contains the whole book?? I've been stuck on the first two pages for a literal year

>> No.14661175

>>14661162
I read the preface in middle school anon, what exactly did you find difficult?

>> No.14661182

>>14661175
The first paragraph has billions of ideas in it. I know it makes me look like a brainlet when I say that, but I swear to god there's a whole view on causation in that one paragraph.

>> No.14661188

>>14657050
Ebert fucks.

>> No.14661285

>>14661182
Copy it here

>> No.14661471

A Hegelian account of deductive-nomological explanation (?)
First P
“For whatever might appropriately be said about philosophy in a preface--say a historical statement of the main drift and the point of view, the general content and results, a string of random assertions and assurances about truth--none of this can be accepted as the way in which to expound philosophical truth. Also, since philosophy moves essentially in the element of universality, which includes within itself the particular, it might seem that here more than in any of the other sciences the subject-matter itself, and even in its complete nature, were expressed in the aim and the final results, the execution being by contrast really the unessential factor.”

Notes; A Hegelian account of deductive-nomological explanation (?):
Anything said about philosophy in a preface is not a way to expound philosophical truth, despite the seemingly inevitable implication of particulars (i.e. conclusions that we may be looking for to understand universals (?)) in universals. That is, executing a jump from philosophical stance P to Q might be articulated in a preface. Particulars seems so utterly obvious that we could execute this easily, but this is not true for some reason. Thus we shouldn’t really have to articulate particulars explicitly.
Anything said about philosophy in a preface is not a way to expound philosophical truth, because, as it were, a philosophy is developed by a stance. And so, the execution of this merely shows the failure of the philosopher, not the stance. That is, there is always a more charitable and superior execution of a stance to be made.

>> No.14661492

>>14661471
there are some typos here. I cut out some stuff but I hope its comprehensible.

>> No.14661639

>>14654891
A wife and two kids.

>> No.14661962

>>14660735
who was in turn retroactively btfo by P. Diddy in 2017

>> No.14661969

>>14655743
It makes no sense in English and makes just as much no-sense in German.
Try the one you're better at.

>> No.14662385

Everything written after Plato was written by frauds and amateurs. Hegel being the most challenging and interesting one but still.

>> No.14662446

>>14658894
Who the hell is Steve Jobs

>> No.14662633

>>14656109
underrated

>> No.14663184

>>14661471
I have no idea how you are using particular and universal here desu

>> No.14663228

>>14658327
kek

>> No.14663259

>>14661175
>I read the preface in middle school anon
bro I read Einstein's entire oeuvre in elementary, catch up

>> No.14664109

Time to read the collected works of Schopenhauer to realize how much time you've wasted reading Hegel.

>> No.14664153

>>14664109
>Brainlethauer
lol no

>> No.14664281

>>14660735
who the FUCK is d. bofa

>> No.14664501

>>14664281
Bofa D.eez nuts