Conservatards btfo'd

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Anonymous Wed Jan 29 10:33:41 2020 No.14628069 [Reply] [Original]

Conservatards btfo'd

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 10:37:08 2020 No.14628089 >>14628069 Implying conservatives read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 10:39:07 2020 No.14628101 >>14628089 I just read hunt for red October.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 10:42:24 2020 No.14628121 Hey Melissa, why the long face?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 14:03:42 2020 No.14629219 >>14628069 Wow, just like my German fascist animes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:14:26 2020 No.14629513 File: 7 KB, 207x249, 1407591832924.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They really do hate us, don't they? It's not just some dumb /pol/ meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:25:54 2020 No.14629545 >>14629513 The saddest words heard, or writ with a pen, Was that /pol/ was right again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:30:30 2020 No.14629566 >>14629513 Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:32:48 2020 No.14629574 >>14628069 >printing white papers reading TRASH pretty based i have to admin

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:34:11 2020 No.14629578 >>14628069 Got a list of the books or are you just gonna have /pol/tards whine?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:34:14 2020 No.14629579 >>14629513 Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:35:15 2020 No.14629582 >>14629578 hundreds of copies of gravity rainbow

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:36:17 2020 No.14629587 >>14629582 I believe you mean Gravity's Rainbow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:41:45 2020 No.14629615 anyone who throws away perfectly usable books is a clown

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:44:04 2020 No.14629628 File: 214 KB, 1280x941, freedom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629513 And no matter how hard you cuck yourself you will still be an enemy. >Justin Trudeau is a white supremacist terrorist https://youtu.be/Et3QcMLCt1E

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:44:12 2020 No.14629629 >>14629615 I mean you could squash bugs with them or put your cup of coffee on them while it's warm.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:45:41 2020 No.14629634 >>14629219 >>14629513 >>14629545 >>14629566 >>14629628 So, a list of thrown books yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:45:44 2020 No.14629636 >>14629513 >>14629545 for once, lit posts that count as real literature. fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:52:39 2020 No.14629664 >>14629634 Looks like no. Went googling and found some Koch blog talking about it but they didn't have a list either. She had some stupid ideas, but playing victim without knowing what was disposed of is propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:56:04 2020 No.14629677 >>14629664 So it's just fake outrage. A nontroversy. Good to hear.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 15:58:11 2020 No.14629689

>>14628089
this.

>>14629513
its not some jewish conspiracy theory that academics in the humanities are ubiquitously "radical leftist neo-martixts" as jordan peterson would put it in his idiosyncratic terminology. nobody *hates the canon* (although there is certainly a critique to be made of it and how it functions culturally), but schools need a more realistic approach to pedagogy. want to know a good way to make a teenager alienated from literature forever? force him to read William Faulkner and them force him to parrot your own culturally informed reading of the text. these people aren't scheming to turn your kids into trans sissies who love black cock or whatever the fuck paranoid conservatives are afraid of, they're trying to do their job as educators. fuck

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:03:17 2020 No.14629714

>>14629689
>force him to read William Faulkner
Strawman harder, it'll make you even more convincing
>force him to parrot your own culturally informed reading of the text
That's fucking rich
Also, in which part of education do we throw books in the garbage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:04:00 2020 No.14629720 >>14629677 I mean, adding diversity to English curriculum is one thing, but attacking the old reading list the way she did, as the head of an English department, is pretty bad regardless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:05:06 2020 No.14629723 >>14629720 So, what books did she attack? >>14629714 Which books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:05:44 2020 No.14629724 File: 646 KB, 295x221, 1554747281442.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14628069 >Let's destroy books >That'll show those Nazis

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:07:30 2020 No.14629737 File: 803 KB, 1224x636, torino.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629724 Can someone ITT let me know which fucking books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:09:25 2020 No.14629747 >>14629737 Tom Sawyer, because they say nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:09:36 2020 No.14629748 >>14629689 lmao. Yeah go ahead and gut the canon because niggers can't understand Faulkner

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:10:07 2020 No.14629750 >>14629747 Sauce?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:10:39 2020 No.14629753 >>14629750 Of Mice and Men too, hundreds if not thousands of copies of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:10:43 2020 No.14629754 >>14629689 >nobody hates the canon (although there is certainly a critique to be made of it and how it functions culturally) "nobody hates it but they'd be justified if they did haha"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:11:31 2020 No.14629758 >>14629753 Sauce? >>14629754 >>14629748 Who attacked the cannon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:12:02 2020 No.14629760 Neat im sure it got replaced with current ya trash that will be tomorrows problematic literature

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:14:31 2020 No.14629771

>>14629723
I'm
>>14629664
I don't know which books. Not sure anyone here does. If I had to guess, they are books that were at one point pretty standard in american public high schools. In my view, unless there were some yallqueda creationism books, nothing from most required reading lists warrants malicious removal. Sure removal and updating, but why loudly and with the label trash? I guess there's a chance some highschool had shitty books, but it was a public highschool in NJ.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:15:10 2020 No.14629778
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>>14628069
I'm starting to get how conservatard/libtard(read: ameritard) controversies arise:

>see something that might be inflammatory
>don't bother checking the source
>don't even bother going into detail
>just get outraged like a tard
>spam this shit on a Ugandan Karate Dissing Forum/Tumblr
>have the planet laugh at you fir being a tard

Did I miss something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:16:04 2020 No.14629783 >>14629758 that's what's in the trash in the OP picture maybe not in a literal sense (or maybe it is, we haven't seen the list), but certainly in a spiritual sense, and that's the only sense that matters

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:17:03 2020 No.14629791 File: 8 KB, 227x222, AF8A9EBF-80DA-4628-924B-EED37A4F3304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629778 >>spam this shit on a Ugandan Karate Dissing Forum/Tumblr Lmao, so le randum my fellow Redditor! The narwhal bacons at midnight lol

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:17:54 2020 No.14629797

>>14629783
So you don't know shit. Maybe it was fucking outdated science books where Pluto's still a planet or maybe the curriculum changed, or it's a history book from 25 years ago that doesn't cover the last 4 presidents. But no, why bother checking, right? You fucking faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:18:57 2020 No.14629803 >>14629791 I see I touched a nerve. You do realize you're not different from a tumblrwhale, right?

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:19:00 2020 No.14629804

>>14629714
>Strawman harder, it'll make you even more convincing
Nice. I've encountered "the guy who loves to invoke logical fallacies". I had to read Faulkner in high school. I have a friend getting his english phd who teaches Faulkner to his students. (Guess what? They hate it) Faulkner is canon. Its also a fucking example dude jesus christ you guys are autistic. Should I have used The Great Gatsby instead? And he came to mind because he happens to be one of my favorite authors. As a matter of fact, literally all of my favorite authors are canon dead white males.
>Also, in which part of education do we throw books in the garbage?
Look I defend the actions of every brainless idiot on twitter. I'm trying to elevate the conversation to a higher level of nuance here. What are some examples of texts you think should be taught to (non-honors) high school students? Do you think there should be any diversity at all in the curriculum to reflect the diversity of the student body or do you think only white male authors should be taught? (i.e. "merit based")

>>14629748
It's not being "gutted" its just not being taught in high school. What's the upper limit for you? Should we teach critique of pure reason to high schoolers? I'm talking about being pragmatic here not saying that the canon is trash. God you guys are fucking thick its like you actually don't understand the basic project of literary criticism and think it should just consist of being a cheerleader for your favorite authors/books like your beloved Harold Bloom.

>>14629754
Literally not what I said. Read some theory. Believe it or not there are more nuanced positions besides "I love the canon uncritically!" and "I hate the canon bc white men!" Although I understand this is difficult to convey online.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:19:01 2020 No.14629805 File: 264 KB, 680x680, E1F02F4C-D557-4957-A719-999E170A90D5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629797 Yeah anon, I’m sure it’s just out dated science books that say Pluto is a planet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:20:03 2020 No.14629811 File: 46 KB, 215x235, 7B0ACA4D-685F-4E05-8CDE-9DDB9B32BD18.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629803 >I see I touched a nerve Could you be any more reddit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:20:10 2020 No.14629813 >>14629804 **can't defend

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:20:20 2020 No.14629815 >>14629805 So what is it then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:20:46 2020 No.14629819 >>14629804 >he didn't read Kant in highschool fucking yikes, are you black yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:20:53 2020 No.14629820 >>14629797 Yes books where Pluto is still a planet had to be replaced with more "culturally diverse literature"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:22:24 2020 No.14629830 >>14629820 What was thrown out?

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:22:29 2020 No.14629831

>>14629815
I told you, copies of Tom Sawyer and Of Mice and Men mostly. Some other less important books, but that’s whats being removed from the curriculum. They never used them anymore anyway, since the district lets teachers choose between those and other books they added to the list later. and they always choose the easiest thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:23:20 2020 No.14629837 >>14629830 https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trashing-unwoke-books-washington-township-nj-equity-learning/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:23:25 2020 No.14629839 >>14628069 They could at least give it away to someone who wants them. Fucking retards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:23:27 2020 No.14629840 >>14629831 Sauce for this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:26:04 2020 No.14629853 >>14629837 Why is it always twitter and no serious source? It still doesn't mention which books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:26:38 2020 No.14629855 File: 29 KB, 300x100, DF589A4F-4170-44D9-BDF4-00CBB4F6359E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629689 Yikes and Cringe: The Post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:26:43 2020 No.14629856 >>14629840 That’s what they did in my old high school.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:27:07 2020 No.14629857 >>14629689 post tits

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:28:10 2020 No.14629860 >>14629803 >n-no u

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:30:11 2020 No.14629871
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>not realizing that it’s natural for civilizations to rise and fall

What did you guys think was going to happen? America would be king forever? America reached its natural zenith in the 90s and is now slowly crumbling like all empires and cultures do. It’s normal. We’re going to be overtaken by an alliance of Latinos, blacks and Asians and a new civilization will be reborn in the old ones ashes. It’s normal and for the most part a good thing.

Just let go brainlets. Most of you will probably be fine anyway

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:38:02 2020 No.14629915

>>14629871
>in the 90s
surely it was the 50s? Objectively that was the most powerful they ever were compared to the rest of the world and their culture hadn't completely fallen apart yet. Not that the 50s were the golden age certain conservatives think they were, but clearly better than the 90s
also
>alliance of latinos, blacks, and asians
seriously doubt

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:40:50 2020 No.14629931

>>14629804
Faulkner is an author most people shy away from just by hearing the name, it seemed like you were trying to strike the entire bloody canon down by cherry picking a scary name.
>Merit based
I fully support the specific quote but you're trying to take it to some wild places. I fully support teaching the Baburnama alongside the confessions if you're gonna talk about autobiography. I also support readings from the Mahābharata and the Ramayana to accompany Homer in the "Indo-European myths diffusion epic" bit. If you could sneak in Hafiz alongside romantic poetry that'd be based. If you could integrate readings from Chinese novels that'd be redpilled. If you spent fifteen minutes talking about Eustahios Makrembolites and the Byzameme novels then you'd reach ascension.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:47:08 2020 No.14629967 Honestly it was a woke /lit/ class that played a large role in turning me into the fascist I am today. "Diverse" literature was largely dogshit and I realized that these people have literally nothing to say beyond their own identity politics.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:54:06 2020 No.14629996

>>14629915
this. america peaked mid-century and it is all down from there, though slowly. it basically was as much a golden age as you can get—no golden age is actually perfect, without issue—but conservatives misunderstand much about the period, the decades preceding, and the highly unusual global conditions that allowed it.
also, niggers and spics hate each other and chinamen think both disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 16:59:40 2020 No.14630023 >>14629804 >It's not being "gutted" its just not being taught in high school. Same thing >Should we teach critique of pure reason to high schoolers? Yes

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 17:11:49 2020 No.14630072

>>14629804
>I'm talking about being pragmatic here
no you are not. the pragmatic action is to make kids read and analyse literature far earlier than they currently do, and with higher frequency, while also doing more to educate them on proper grammar and syntax.
the high school tards hate literature they read because they were raised retarded to that point thus find it totally alien. they hate faulkner because they can barely read him (the same is true for quite easy texts like Gatsby too). their literacy level is not high enough to read it effectively. they're forced by ability to read slowly and focus on very word—such that the experience of reading is overly exhausting. they spend all of their childhood and most of their teens laying on the couch but now and ten you put them in a track meet and expect good results. it is fucking not pragmatic, from the perspective of one who wants high results, to look at the embarrassing level of literacy produced by current curriculums and think we should accept it despite the solution being relatively simple.
that said, i don't personally think it's much worth the effort. we gain nothing from educating the plebs—and widepread literacy was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 17:28:19 2020 No.14630168 >>14629804 Honors should be the standard curriculum and fail those who cant keep up. The fact that a bunch of teenagers dislike Faulkner is because they just dont like reading, not because they hate his work.

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Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:05:16 2020 No.14630321

>>14629871
>a society of latinos, blacks and asians
>a good thing
literally, objectively, false. The rise and fall of empires in Europe is not comparable to the cultural extinction of the group that progressed society in the first place.

Its not falling because the new regime is strong, its falling because weak men allowed women to influence the world and the coming regime is full of emotional and inept people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:08:50 2020 No.14630337 >>14628089 fpbp

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:11:02 2020 No.14630348

>>14628069
There is something fundamentally delicious about the fact that good little leftists will not get to enjoy any literature in the future.

You can literally watch the shitskin demographic and Jews strip away your culture in real time, and you will still come up with excuses for why this is okay because something something muh healthcare.

"b-b-b-b-buh it's da liberals they're not left wing!" screeches the impotent little leftist as his copy of Ivanhoe is torn from his fingers and fed to the flames. But he will vote and fight and diligently scrape to help Jews and shitskins further cement their majority, and his grandchildren--brown, with IQs in the low 60s--will look back, and sadly say "ay dawg, dafqus a 'greek,' dat some kinna olive oil? finna make mysef some pasta. Grandad din know nuffin."

Oh but least you weren't a reactionary. You good, good little leftist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:16:03 2020 No.14630372 >>14629689 >want to know a good way to make a teenager alienated from literature forever If someone doesn't want to a appreciate the classics, being alienated from literature should be their punishment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:21:33 2020 No.14630391 >>14628089 They read clive cussler and robert ludlum

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:24:04 2020 No.14630406 >>14628089 Not reading is better than reading Baldwin or Morrison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:31:26 2020 No.14630426 >>14628069 >burger burning books Color me surprised.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:33:40 2020 No.14630437 File: 400 KB, 1203x724, lit canon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14628069 reminder

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:44:40 2020 No.14630479

>>14629689
>want to know a good way to make a teenager alienated from literature forever?
Tell him literature has nothing to teach him because it's written by people with a different background and different opinions? That their entire corpus of work can be reduced to a couple descriptive signifies, which they can then use as a tool to deduce the subconscious motivations of their every word and action? Perhaps teach them that the world is either secretly conspiring against them, to which they can attribute ever failure and struggle, or that they are arbitrary privileged and therefore cannot have any claim to authentic agency in their life? Training them to express every sentiment according to a politically convenient narrative specially designed to be as divisive and alienating as possible, while telling them that anyone expressing opinions outside of that narrative is a closeted Hitler supporter?

No, it must be making them read Shakespeare or Huxley in school. Surely literature is the thing ruining the study of literature for students.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 18:54:01 2020 No.14630512 >>14628089 based

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:00:56 2020 No.14630536
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>>14629804
To the totalitarian mind of the leftist art's only purpose is the promotion of the politically correct cultural marxist ideology, an ideology based on the cult of victimhood and identity politics. We must deal with these people as we deal with radical islamic terrorists, for they are at their core religious fanatics, who want to erradicate all dissent. And remeber, These are the people who are teaching your children.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html
>The Sexual Revolution and Children
>How the Left Took Things Too Far
>Germany's left has its own tales of abuse. One of the goals of the German 1968 movement was the sexual liberation of children. For some, this meant overcoming all sexual inhibitions, creating a climate in which even pedophilia was considered progressive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:03:18 2020 No.14630547 File: 25 KB, 528x363, screen-shot-2014-07-29-at-11-05-52-am.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14630536 You fell for the meme. The left wants money

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:06:26 2020 No.14630559 >>14629513 it's them or us, anon. hope you're getting ready for the day of the rope, because it is coming whether you like it or not

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:12:10 2020 No.14630583 >>14630547 Nice unsourced graph nigger

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:13:39 2020 No.14630587

>>14630547
leftists and neocons, along with the kikes, queers and sick liberal whites who currently run academia, hollywood and the fortune 500 should all be regarded as enemies and agents of the ZOG machine by any and all right thinking Patriots out there. It stands as evident that the American education system as it exists today has at its goal the creation of a mongrelized subhuman race of pot smoking videogaming of consumer cattle with pink hair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8coa6fE2vQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:16:58 2020 No.14630595 >>14630583 https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/Presidents_Blinder_Watson_July2014.pdf careful, big words

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:18:52 2020 No.14630604 >>14630583 you can find things yourself nigger

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:21:07 2020 No.14630621
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>>14629513
>be a massive piece of shit who wants to remove women's rights, deregulate everything, kill or deport everyone who doesn't look like him, and turn civilization back into Dark Ages tier
>waaaaaah why do you hate meeeee I'm just an innocent incel who wants all minorities to die
>>14629579
fuck off with your brainlet propaganda, you projecting stormfag cocksucker

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:22:29 2020 No.14630625 >>14629840 >>14629856 >sauce? >anecdote lmao

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:26:42 2020 No.14630634
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>>14630595
who cares if the fat cat GDP kikes on top happened to get richer during democrat administrations? The planned destruction of the American Family and our European Christian heritage has been a bipartisan project, carried out in tandem by traitors in both parties. I call upon all Patriots to Action, radical measures must be taken in order to defeat the forces of globalism, usury and cultural marxism before our America is irreversibly defiled.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:28:29 2020 No.14630644 >>14630634 the US was in decline long before you were born—and there is not returning to former glory

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:32:34 2020 No.14630663 >>14630621 leftists want to control every aspect of our culture our every thought and feeling for social engineering purposes. I suspect the lgbt movement is aiming at the normalisation of pedophilia

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:33:08 2020 No.14630669

>>14629689
Does this apply to children being forced to learn mathematics and science also?

Your critique makes sense but the alternative is that these kids gain absolutely nothing. No matter their level of engagement, Harry Potter and whatever some black lesbian wrote last year will do little in the way of improving their lives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:34:36 2020 No.14630676 >>14629579 I've seen this phrase a few times lately. Do you know who coined it? Sounds like Schlichter or Malice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:36:19 2020 No.14630684 >>14630621 >propaganda remember Rotherham and the dozen other British cities

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:37:47 2020 No.14630693

>>14630621
>remove women's rights,
based
>deregulate everything
cringe
>deport everyone who doesn't look like him
based
>turn civilization back into Dark Ages
unfathomably based, but not by your obviously uneducated and pop-knowledge tier understanding of this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:38:17 2020 No.14630698 >>14630621 Weak bait. >all my enemies are pure evil so everything I do to stop them is automatically justified.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:39:26 2020 No.14630705 >>14629513 >us what did you ever write?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:39:57 2020 No.14630706 >>14630676 notorious domestic terrorist Samuel Hyde coined it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:40:15 2020 No.14630707 >>14630705 my diary desu

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:40:42 2020 No.14630709
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>>14630644
I call upon the american people to leap headfirst into the meat grinder of history, following the last stand of the German Reich, when the defenders of a people prefered total annihilation to defilement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:43:42 2020 No.14630719 >>14630709 cringe and retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:44:17 2020 No.14630723 >>14629689 >>14629804 People like you are why I only read immigrant narratives and holocaust shit in high school, fuck you

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:50:50 2020 No.14630749

>>14630621
>>be a massive piece of shit who wants to remove women's rights,
The autonomous woman will always be in contact with national interest.
>deregulate everything,
Whoever said that? All business entities should be slaves to the nation if they even should be allowed to exist.
>kill or deport everyone who doesn't look like him,
Only those whose existence is hostile to mine. Individuals and peoples don't exist neutrally.
>and turn civilization back into Dark Ages tier
The dark ages began when jazz was popularized in the Americas and spread throughout Europe during WWI. I just want this one to be short.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:54:03 2020 No.14630764

>>14630663
i suspect suspect you haven't taken your meds. The only countries in the world who actually, literally control every aspect of their societies' cultures are conservative. Russia, Saudi Arabia, China, all the middle eastern shitholes, all conservatards. And usually the most conservative institutions like the Catholic Church are filled to the brim with pedophiles and closet gays. The only exception I can think of is Hollywood
>>14630693
don't start crying when we remove your shitty ideas
>>14630698
not all my enemies, just you. Shove your strawman up your ass
>>14630749
>Whoever said that?
it's the bread and butter of modern conservatism. But you don't actually read, so it's not surprising you don't know this
>Only those whose existence is hostile to mine
i.e. those who don't look like you, since everything foreign is hostile to you.
>The dark ages began when jazz was popularized in the Americas
thanks for confirming what I just said above

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:54:41 2020 No.14630767 File: 235 KB, 1280x720, Charlottesville8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14630709 Only an american could be this stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:55:39 2020 No.14630772 >>14630764 >don't start crying when we remove your shitty ideas Uh sweatie you're not allowed to do that. You have to let all the Muslims in and they dont like gays or women having rights

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:57:06 2020 No.14630776 >>14630764 leftist institutions like public education, the lgbt movement, top NGOs, universities and immigrant communities are also filled with pedophiles but you don't hear about it. I wonder why?

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 19:57:53 2020 No.14630778

>>14628089
>>14628069
Not reading Literature or Philosophy is actually based. Observation shows us that the most literate, philosophically inclined peoples are the most likely to be Communists or anti-anti-Communists, however, these are quite shit in practice. One can only conclude that there's something toxic in our literate tradition. Just go read a nice math textbook or something.

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>>14630778
maybe if it was 1950 but nowadays leftists are the people who read only YA novels. For a test, try bringing up Nietszche or any other ''western'' philosopher for that matter around your local LGBTQIA leftist cattle. You will see their stupid cow like eyes light up in panic, their fingers move towards the independent thought alarm. In no time they will start bleating as usual: ''wasn't he sexist'' ''aren't you being dangerously eurocentric?'' '' Haven't you been missing out on the latest diverse workplace comedies available for streaming in Netflix, Hulu and Disney Go? It is very important you take the SSRIs and the estrogen pills doctor Goldberg prescribed you."

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:06:29 2020 No.14630809

>>14630772
>You have to let all the Muslims in and they dont like gays or women having rights
and yet another straman. In the real world, which you should visit sometime, most left leaning people don't want to let all the muslims in and instill Sharia Law. I understand that the UK is filled with retards left and right, but not everyone lives there.
>>14630776
>leftist institutions like public education
how the fuck is this a leftist institution? is it because you correctly associate the left with not being retarded? "Public education" is not an institution, imbecile. It varies entirely by country. And if we're talking about the US, it varies by state. Which is why so many schools in red states teach the denial of evolution and cherrypicks/embellishes american history.
>the lgbt movement
movements aren't institutions. Imbecile.
>top NGOs, universities and immigrant communities are also filled with pedophiles but you don't hear about it.
because it's bullshit. Post evidence or stop talking out of your ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:10:13 2020 No.14630825 >>14628089 this >>14629513 Yep, some retarded librarian at some random high school did something retarded, therefore "they" really hate you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:10:46 2020 No.14630828 >>14630809 If the schools weren't leftist they'd teach race realism tbqh

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:12:50 2020 No.14630839 >>14630828 >if shcools aren't leftists why don't they teach this bullshit pseudoscience? flawless argument. Don't expect anything else from /pol/ brainlets

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:13:38 2020 No.14630843 >>14630764 first thought was troll but it takes a bonafide leftoid to be this self righteous about lowering the bar for everyone

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:14:28 2020 No.14630846 >>14630839 >bullshit pseudoscience you dont find it odd that every black population on earth is dumb and violent? Surely there'd be 1 counter example if you were right

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:14:57 2020 No.14630848 >>14630479 Underrated post. In the internet of 20 years ago, we would have said "you just pwned his ass".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:15:09 2020 No.14630849 >>14630839 reminder, this is what leftists mean when they talk about ''science'' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJFb_P2j48

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:16:39 2020 No.14630854

>>14630764
>it's the bread and butter of modern conservatism. But you don't actually read, so it's not surprising you don't know this
You don't need to read to know this. If you live certain parts of in America, the sentiment is in the air you breathe. I think think holding such a position in a post-Schumpeter world is contradictory to the point of being totally incoherent. Leaders will try to sell it with hokey recreations of past glory, but I think most who buy it just don't know better. If directly offered to choose between either rectified culture or the free market, I think they would choose the latter. Unfortunately some very sinister businessmen and their cronies have convinced that one is necessary for the other. The only sympathy I have towards deregulation is that total human annihilation is preferable to a humanity under communism or anarchism, so if the victory of those roaches seems inevitable, policies that will guarantee the complete destruction of the environment should be purued.
>i.e. those who don't look like you, since everything foreign is hostile to you.
Not at all. Identity itself is shaped from continuous acts of violence done by and against various groups of people. The histories of violence which shape the trajectories of some identities make conflict inevitable. I personally believe in allowing for the free immigration to Western nation states of all non-Muslim peoples from the Middle East and North Africa. I also believe in giving practitioners of the Vedic faiths special protections and social privileges over Abrahamics.
>thanks for confirming what I just said above
Jazz was the destruction of any culture that existed beyond mere consumerism. Philip Larkin (a huge fan of jazz) put it pretty well:
>Mick Jagger at Altamont in 1969 is the logical outcome of Louis bringing the house down with ‘Ain’t Misbehavin’’ in 1929, and the process isn’t finished yet. When it is, the chances are that Armstrong will be remembered as much as an agent for replacing one culture with another as an individual artist. If so, it won’t be his fault: nothing, in this line, is ever anyone’s fault.
Any form of existence outside of the most vulgar American consumerism is gone, and will be until all elements of this dark century have passed us.
>don't start crying when we remove your shitty ideas
Don't pretend it's a national tragedy when one of your porcine comrades suffers than she deserves

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:19:38 2020 No.14630868 >>14630825 >Yep, some retarded librarian at some random high school did something retarded, therefore "they" really hate you Yeah man, this event exists in a vacuum and isn't part of any trends.

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Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:24:38 2020 No.14630889

>>14630868
People claiming "this is nothing" are just being dishonest. They don't really think this is nothing. They actually think this is good and this "you are overreacting" thing is just an attempt to shut down criticism.

They actually think it is a good thing that canon books are being replaced by identity politics shit. They think it is good that "Brothers Karamazov" is replaced by "diary of trans latinx victim of prejudice".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:28:26 2020 No.14630904 >>14630764 You have worms in your brain pal.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:30:11 2020 No.14630910

>>14630889
>They actually think it is a good thing that canon books are being replaced by identity politics shit. They think it is good that "Brothers Karamazov" is replaced by "diary of trans latinx victim of prejudice".
They're a little more sophisticated than that. They know they need something sophisticated is they are to train students to empathize properly (i.e., feel in accordance to their agenda). That's why they incorporate the grandest works of hand-wringing in their tradition. You'll see it Dostoevsky replaced by the likes of Baldwin, Morrison, and Alice Walker rather that whatever YA spectacle NYT bestseller is pulling on the heartstrings of teenage girls and cool wine aunts alike.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:33:25 2020 No.14630923 >>14630805 >Nietszche isn't a precursor to Marx

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:34:46 2020 No.14630931 >>14630923 Did you mean Foucault?

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:35:37 2020 No.14630934

>>14630868
I challenge you to find one other instance of this happening (I'm not talking about people freaking out over books that have the n-word in them—I agree that this is worse than that).

>>14630889
Don't put words in my mouth faggot. I wholeheartedly believe in the enshrinement of good writing, but the fact is that people use the category of a "Western Canon" to avoid engaging with literature in a very deep way, and this is true of its attackers as well as its defenders. I am equally wary of the formation of a kind of "neoliberal canon," if you will, that is a canon of works that makes the classes who benefit from the multinational circulation of capital least uncomfortable. Personally I think that the only sort of humanistic education that can hold its own among the globalized knowledge systems of today, is one that seeks to familiarize the student with all of the most celebrated forms of human expression, irrespective of region.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:36:26 2020 No.14630937 >>14628101 >>14629689 >>14630337 >>14630391 >>14630406 >>14630512 >>14630778 >>14630825 It doesn't even make sense. If they dont read, why it was produced? You burn something because you have fear, just like Nazi burnned jewish books.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:38:25 2020 No.14630943

>>14630934
>I challenge you to find one other instance of this happening (I'm not talking about people freaking out over books that have the n-word in them—I agree that this is worse than that).
Yale's administration have openly stated that "decolonizing" the curriculum is part of their goals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:38:31 2020 No.14630944 >>14630934 This kind of shit is happening everywhere https://reason.com/2020/01/27/yale-university-art-department-western-white-male-problematic/

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:40:16 2020 No.14630950

>>14629714
>in which part of education do we throw books in the garbage?
When underfunded schools run out of room in the library.
This is a massive problem in American universities especially. My university recently threw out a bunch of books in history and the humanities because they have no incentive to keep them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:43:22 2020 No.14630962 >>14630934 Here. I want to see you defend this shit https://www.latimes.com/books/la-et-jc-decolonize-syllabus-20181008-story.html https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/01/yale-english-students-call-for-end-of-focus-on-white-male-writers

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:48:05 2020 No.14630972 >>14630937 newfag die

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:51:28 2020 No.14630985 >>14630937 holy fuck lmao

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:54:49 2020 No.14631003

ITT: seething /po/roaches
>>14630962
>Here, defend this opinion piece and this """protest""" by 3 starbucks baristas
kek. They're kinda right tho, even if they're probably going about it wrong. There should be more world literature classes. Teaching with the same ""canon"" since high school all the way to university is the reason /lit/ charts are so generic these days. Every time someone here asks for latin american literature the only answers are Bolaño, and eastern philosophy/history threads are ridden with retarded misconceptions all the time. You're really missing out by not expanding your horizons. Of course I don't expect some clout seeking Chicana to be impartial about this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 20:56:46 2020 No.14631009 >>14631003 I just read more of that second article and it's not even a protest, it's an online petition lmao. /pol/tards are this desperate

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:01:01 2020 No.14631028

>>14631003
>>14631009
Yale actually changed their curriculum due to those "3 baristas in an online poll".

https://www.thecollegefix.com/yale-decolonizes-english-dept-complaints-studying-white-authors-actively-harms-students/

Your dishonesty in claiming that "this is nothing" will not work here.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:01:14 2020 No.14631031

>>14630943
>>14630944
That's not the same thing you tards. There will still be plenty of classes on Renaissance painting for those who are interested: They are not taking the additional (symbolic) step of making the materials covered in the course physically inaccessible to the students. And let me tell you something, as someone who goes to a top-tier university that has gen-ed courses on "Western civilization" and the like: they suck ass, and your time would be much better spent taking a class with people who want to be there. And in spite of how bad the people in those classes are, only a couple times have I heard someone voice an opinion as simplistic as "this is bad because it's patriarchy," or whatever. Get it into your head that these people have an interest in manufacturing outrage for you to consume, and go do something productive.

>>14630962
Not gonna read those, but unless their headlines are terribly misleading, that's still a far cry from book-burning. I certainly don't support such a restructuring of the curriculum if it means fewer humanities courses overall. What I will defend, as I said, is the view that the humanities will continue to die if we insist on structuring them along national lines. The purpose of the university is no longer to construct a national myth, and thinking about literature in those terms has been outmoded. This ought to be a good thing, as I believe literature to have far higher ends. Now, the circumstances under which the boundaries between regional knowledge systems have largely dissolved happen to be extremely unfavorable towards forms of knowledge that do not promise "progress" of a certain kind, but the solution is not to regress to the material conditions of the 19th century (not that such a regression is possible anyways).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:05:05 2020 No.14631055 >>14631031 You are the cancer that is killing Western culture. Replacing great works with woke shit is a terrible idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:07:02 2020 No.14631067 >>14631055 I don't believe in replacing any great works, and I don't believe that you should read shit just because it's woke. I believe people should read more and different kinds of great works. Go die in a ditch, midwit.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:07:25 2020 No.14631068

>>14631031
>And let me tell you something, as someone who goes to a top-tier university that has gen-ed courses on "Western civilization" and the like: they suck ass, and your time would be much better spent taking a class with people who want to be there.

This tells a lot about you

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:07:39 2020 No.14631069

>>14631028
from your own link, again:
>The reconfiguring of the English department’s required courses did not directly address the demands of the petition to do away with the Major English Poets sequences altogether; the courses still exist. The reconfiguration also did not refocus the program’s pre-1800 and pre-1900 literature requirement to address issues of race, gender, and sexuality as demanded by the petition.

>Instead, the English department now allows students to fill three required prerequisites from a choice of four different courses: Readings in English Poetry 1, Readings in English Poetry 2, Readings in American Literature, and a newly created course, Readings in Comparative World English Literature.
This is not "nothing", it's actually great. They didn't remove anything like you're implying. They just added more options. I shouldn't be forced to read English literature in fucking university, especially when I've been reading it since high school. It should be entirely optional. I dreaded the English courses that made me read TS Elliot, William Blake and Dubliners for the millionth time.
>Other courses she has taught at Yale include “Contemporary African Fiction: Challenges to Realism,” “South African Writing After Apartheid,” and “Postcolonial World Literatures, 1945 to Present"
all these courses sound really interesting and I wish I had the privilege to take them when I was a freshman. Even the electives in my uni are English this English that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:10:09 2020 No.14631081 >>14631069 >all those courses sound really interesting lmao you fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:10:29 2020 No.14631082 >>14631068 What, that I don't think the privilege of talking to 18-year-old engineering students about Dante twice a week is necessarily worth $4,000 or whatever?

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:11:13 2020 No.14631086

>>14631067
You are defending people who are doing just that. Don't try to pretend you aren't. This is the whole point of this. Replacing the works of the canon by those of authors who fill the demographic categories they want and who write about "identity shit".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:12:11 2020 No.14631091 >>14630372 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:12:56 2020 No.14631099 >>14631069 >all these courses sound really interesting and I wish Lol

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:15:00 2020 No.14631105

>>14631031
> And let me tell you something, as someone who goes to a top-tier university that has gen-ed courses on "Western civilization" and the like: they suck ass, and your time would be much better spent taking a class with people who want to be there. And in spite of how bad the people in those classes are, only a couple times have I heard someone voice an opinion as simplistic as "this is bad because it's patriarchy," or whatever. Get it into your head that these people have an interest in manufacturing outrage for you to consume, and go do something productive.
The problem is that they are not being forced to take it. These classes shouldn't be about about "engaging students" but rather inculcating the Western tradition into them. We should think of the alienation these students feel as deserved punishment rather than institutional failure. The notion of student control that was developed in the sixties was a mistake, and you and your ilk striking up these institutions deserve to be lobotomized.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:15:11 2020 No.14631108 >>14631082 Universities should not be glorified trade schools. And you said yourself you didn't like those courses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:17:27 2020 No.14631117 >>14631081 >>14631099 if you don't actually like literature, don't take the courses. Again, they're entirely optional. Illiterate retards

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:19:32 2020 No.14631121 >>14631117 We are actually laughing at you for liking that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:21:12 2020 No.14631122 >>14631121 >haha he likes literature what a fag >on the literature fuck off to your containment sewer

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:23:33 2020 No.14631127

>>14630479
Of course, they won't reply you. They have to say face before daring to accept what this is all about. What a sad existence one must stand upon where they have to lie about the fundamental in order to secure a posture that defiles the beauty that offers itself, even to you.
Deep down they know you are right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:24:20 2020 No.14631130 >>14631122 Not all literature is equal. Do you read John Green books?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:24:52 2020 No.14631132 >>14631028 if a culture is so pathetic that they'll denigrate their own great works in order to outdo each other in "showing concern for the marginalized", it deserves to be destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:26:03 2020 No.14631138 >>14631130 >contemporary african fiction = John Green how do you know that? have you read contemporary african fiction? imagine being this much of a square headed imbecile

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:26:42 2020 No.14631143 >>14631127 Yeah, that was the best post in this thread. And it was conveniently ignored by them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:26:51 2020 No.14631144 >>14631117 You know who are actually illiterate? The monkeys you're tripping over yourself to praise. Not that i believe for a second you actually give a shit about their 'literature', you're just a fucking coward repeating the party line.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:28:04 2020 No.14631149 >>14631138 You are moving the goalposts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:28:07 2020 No.14631150 >>14631138 >how do you know that? have you read contemporary african fiction Ben Okri is among the worst living poets.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:28:08 2020 No.14631151

>>14631086
I think that anyone who wants to REPLACE Wordsworth with whatever flavor-of-the-month Caribbean writer is a fucking retard, and I would protest it if that were what's happening. Do they want to make a new faculty post for the Caribbean FOTM expert? I'm all in favor of it. Do they want to force first-years to read Shakespeare and James Baldwin, rather than Shakespeare and Wordsworth? It's no skin off my nose; I think they're equally bad, even if I like Wordsworth better. You can't be reasoned with in any case.

>>14631105
Yeah, well, your understanding of literature will always be severely limited by prejudice, and that's fine. I'm glad you're not employed by a university.

>>14631108
You're right, and really the problem extends down to the fact that kids don't get a meaningful education in primary and secondary schools. I suppose it is selfish, but it's not fair or necessary to put people at two entirely different levels of preparation for discussing the material in the same section. I guess this is mostly specific to gen-ed classes in a seminar format; I've always thought they'd be much better as lectures.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:28:44 2020 No.14631154

>>14631132
What if we made all the leftists and marginalised queers ''go away somehow''? I don't know load them into trucks drive them out to the countryside? Wouldn't it feel like a tremendous weight was lifted off your back, wouldn't the very air we breathe feel much cleaner?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:31:34 2020 No.14631162 >>14631154 Not really because whatever underlying priors that led to the formation of those ideas are still there, so we'll just be back where we started sooner or later.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:34:50 2020 No.14631174

>>14631151
>Yeah, well, your understanding of literature will always be severely limited by prejudice, and that's fine. I'm glad you're not employed by a university.
My understanding will be better than any of theirs because I believe that literature exists to be something other than a tool for advancing shallow empathy-politics. There's a reason the quality of literature declined with the rise of the MFA program.
I'm also glad I don't teach there either. The only chance literature has is for schools of anti-academic/anti-intellectual folk criticism top rise up and sweep the institutions away. Like I said you and all your bright academic pals deserve to be lobotomized.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:35:51 2020 No.14631177 >>14628069 Did they really print out pages with just the word TRASH in big letters on it to throw in? ????

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:37:29 2020 No.14631181 >>14631151 Your mind is so infected with dishonesty you are literally incapable of thinking. The only mental operation you can perform is rationalization for positions you are not permitted ever to question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:37:32 2020 No.14631182 >>14631174 You're swinging your fists at the ether.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:40:25 2020 No.14631185

>>14631149
no I'm not, you're the one calling my interest in literature bad and equating a continent's literary output to John Green while you yourself have never bothered to read anything from it
>>14631144
>You know who are actually illiterate? The monkeys you're tripping over yourself to praise
>having interest in african literarure = literally praising it
what an insecure little shitstain.
>>14631150
good thing he's not the only african poet and Nigeria isn't the only country in Africa, I'll have to read more from them to see if they're all shit writers or not

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:40:29 2020 No.14631186

>>14631181
What, specifically, is the position that I'm rationalizing? I'm just telling you what I think about the university, in practical terms. It's a different question from the metaphysical significance of literature or whatever you seem to have in mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:40:34 2020 No.14631187 >>14631182 But in the direction of evil. My hopes are still noble even if they are futile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:40:59 2020 No.14631190 Ultimately Conservatards like >>14631174 and others are just mad that the ideals of centuries of Western tradition are being fulfilled in spite of their protests.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:41:32 2020 No.14631194 >>14631174 Yeah, the state of modern academia is not very good. But I think that eventually things will improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:42:42 2020 No.14631200 >>14631190 >the ideals of centuries of Western tradition Uh, what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:43:46 2020 No.14631206 >>14631185 Yes, you are moving the goalposts. You claimed any criticism of any kind of literary taste doesn't belong here.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:44:23 2020 No.14631209

>>14630479
>literature has nothing to teach him because it's written by people with a different background and different opinions
Literally the thing you people are bitching.
>What??? There are new courses that assign books written by niggers??!! holy shit bros literature is dead liberals want you dead or enslaved :'(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:44:47 2020 No.14631212 >>14631200 You may not like it, but this is what "all men are created equal" or "all men are born equal and free in rights" looks like. Mindless virtue signaling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:47:03 2020 No.14631226 >>14631212 sorry, reversed "equal" and "free" there, but you get the idea. It inevitably ends in the shit we see today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:47:07 2020 No.14631227 >>14631187 They're really not, man. The ultimate significance of the great works of Western literature is not in their making you feel cozy, or giving you a false sense of belonging. Do you need a safe space?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:47:34 2020 No.14631230 >>14631212 No, it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:48:07 2020 No.14631233 >>14631200 Like most leftists, he values the aspects of the western tradition that can be used to dismantle the western tradition. To them the west may as well be nothing more than a homogeneous toolbox of critical thought.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:48:37 2020 No.14631237 >>14631209 That's a strawman

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:49:39 2020 No.14631244 >>14631227 >The ultimate significance of the great works of Western literature is not in their making you feel cozy, or giving you a false sense of belonging. He didn't claim that. >Do you need a safe space Cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:50:39 2020 No.14631248 >>14631233 Why has the left carried all the energy for 250+ years then lel, dismantling the Western tradition IS the Western tradition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:50:42 2020 No.14631249 >>14631206 >You claimed any criticism of any kind of literary taste doesn't belong here. nope. I claimed any criticism of INTEREST in an entire genre from someone who clearly isn't even familiar with it is absolutely retarded.

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:51:46 2020 No.14631256

>>14631190
Leftists and penis-envy feminist carreer dykes have, ironically, quite the oedipal relationship with the institutions. Whether it is journalism, the presidency, the media and the HR department, they want daddy to notice and impose the PC law of gynocracy. Having undermined the basis for all rightful phallocentric authority these loonie leftists think they can still compel red blooded americans like myself or millions of others to give a fuck about their narcissistic PMS whining or respect their debased illegitimate authority.Basically leftists hate themselves and want to make you feel as humilliated dependent and miserable as they are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:52:40 2020 No.14631263 >>14631249 See >>14631122

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:53:44 2020 No.14631269 >>14631248 >dismantling the Western tradition IS the Western tradition. It is not. History didn't begin in 1968

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:54:06 2020 No.14631272 >>14631212 >all men are born equal and free in rights This isn't a call for forced egalitarianism you moron.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:54:28 2020 No.14631275 >>14631256 They don't hate themselves, they're just trying to show empathy towards the marginalized or excluded. >usurpation of rightful phallocentric authority Why'd phallocentric authority give them power then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:54:36 2020 No.14631278 >>14630985 >>14630972 >haha i was just pretending ! Keep crying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:56:22 2020 No.14631289 >>14631272 You're right, it can also end in Communism, which is a different route on the same general trajectory, though distinct from Anglophone egalitarianism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:56:53 2020 No.14631293 >>14628069 I feel like i've previously encountered this meme before the jpgs date stamp

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:58:26 2020 No.14631301

>>14631275
These ''marginalised'' people actively relish victimhood can't create or appreciate art and lack connection with any authentic culture, they are basically patient/victim/consumer units engineered in a lab in order to spread cultural marxism like a self replicating virus( the lab was generously funded with the white man's tax money)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:59:00 2020 No.14631308 >>14631263 see >>14631081 and go back to your sewer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 21:59:59 2020 No.14631318 >>14631301 Okay, but why are they wielding power?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:03:27 2020 No.14631336 File: 21 KB, 267x400, 1579895326455.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14631154 >why do normies hate incels like me? >I just want to disappear queers. Wash your penis nigga lmao.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:05:09 2020 No.14631343 >>14631248 >Why has the left carried all the energy for 250+ years then lel What fruits have they bore? >dismantling the Western tradition IS the Western tradition. It's one aspect of a heterogeneous tradition, and it's one that should be rejected.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:05:21 2020 No.14631345 >>14631289 Smacking my dog when he's misbehaving is on the same trajectory as killing it, though you're being an intellectually dishonest moron if you try to tell me my intent is to kill my dog when I hit him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:05:23 2020 No.14631346 >>14630825 This happens around the country you fucking retard I literally had to do white privilege exercises in my undergrad in 2014

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:07:02 2020 No.14631355 >>14628069 Throwing books away is super triggering for me

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:08:46 2020 No.14631360

>>14631343
>What fruits have they bore?
None, that's the whole problem...

>It's one aspect of a heterogeneous tradition, and it's one that should be rejected.
I agree with you except "one aspect of a heterogeneous tradition" is a bit of an understatement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:08:56 2020 No.14631363 >>14630621 >projecting cocksucker This is what happens when you leave your discord safe haven for longer than five minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:10:57 2020 No.14631372 >>14631237 it's literally what you've been bitching about this entire thread holy shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:12:06 2020 No.14631379 how many more years are we going to have this same old shitty thread on every fucking board dude how many more years do we have to do this have you guys done anything else at all since 2016 i'd love to know

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:14:56 2020 No.14631390

>>14631372
All the PoCWoCLGBTQIASJWTFNPC literature leftists shill reads like the official literary production of the people's soviet republics. I think one is not actually meant to read it, as it exists solely as a simulacrum of ideologically correct literary production.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:15:58 2020 No.14631396 >>14631379 until cultural marxism is defeated of course!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:17:45 2020 No.14631406 >>14631390 What are some examples of this literature?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:25:27 2020 No.14631439 >>14631396 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:27:56 2020 No.14631450

>>14631372
People are bitching about diversity for diversity's sake, which usually entails choosing a shittier thing just because it isn't white.

>>14631379
Maybe because it's getting worse? Do you just not like talking about it because it doesn't fit into your desired narrative?

Also here is a nice difference. We collectively roll our eyes at this, while they actively try to harm e.g. Charles Murray for having the wrong ideas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 22:33:14 2020 No.14631480 >>14631450 i don't like reading the same 10 or 15 people calling each other triggered wokey brokey safe space snowflake cucks over and over again incessantly it's fucking annoying you're not solving anything here by doing that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:01:18 2020 No.14631855 File: 85 KB, 730x490, 31427850234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629689 you type like my ex if providence ever grants me the clarity of your name or face, I'll beat your ass in public n i g g e r

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:06:09 2020 No.14631873 >>14629689 >want to know a good way to make a teenager alienated from literature forever the smart kids will get into it anyway. you can't expect a dumb nigger to get into lit even if they ready maya angelou their whole life

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:11:10 2020 No.14631891 >>14628121 lolololololol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:37:26 2020 No.14631987 File: 2.15 MB, 1920x1080, 2020-01-11 03_00_02-Greenshot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14628069 Stupid but important question: What happen if BBC's Dracula™ (2020) suck out Melissa Woking's blood, he will woke up too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:55:22 2020 No.14632051 go to your local library today anon see what's on display if it's not at least 1/3 communist propaganda count yourself lucky

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 01:18:58 2020 No.14632157 >>14629689 So we dumb down the course because "certain people" cant get into classics?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 01:36:10 2020 No.14632221 >>14631480 Link 5 posts like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 02:52:21 2020 No.14632458 >>14631987 is nu-dracula like kirby now?

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:00:39 2020 No.14632483
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>>14629689
>they're trying to do their job as educators. fuck
"Now class, I want each of you to write a letter to our local congressman explaining why we should abolish prisons."

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:06:15 2020 No.14632502

>>14629996
>>14629915
There was the USSR. Foreign, hostile lands remained unconquered. There was a possibility of expansion. The empire could conceivably grow. Some people scratch their heads and wonder how the golden ages of previous "world hegemons" last so much longer than America's, which appears to have last a few measly decades. The answer is simple; America conquered the world more thoroughly and quickly than any previous empire. Fine, call it the Anglo-Jewish Thalassocracy if you like, it doesn't matter. There were few to no real adversaries left to wage war with, expand, find new vassal tributaries. There was no option other than decline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:37:08 2020 No.14632590 >>14628089 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:44:25 2020 No.14632612 These wheelie containers are being transported to a local used book store or goodwill, yes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:17:01 2020 No.14632720 >>14629689 What's a nigger bitch like you doing on a computer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:24:57 2020 No.14632742 >>14629513 >us I don't recall associating with you.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 04:28:20 2020 No.14632754

Only an American could see his reading list, 90% American authors (10% English), and smile, saying "why should we ever want other writers in our schools? Diversity? Pah! We have all the diversity of opinion and perspective right here".
Read the Scoffing Scholar of Lanling and the Florentine Codex you absolute dilettantes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:02:22 2020 No.14632849 >>14628089 This

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:10:20 2020 No.14632868

>>14631379
>>14631480
Stop being dishonest.
There are not many threads about this. You dislike this thread because you support woke shit and you don't want anyone to criticize it. The whole "I'm tired of people discussing this" shit is just an attempt to silence opposition.

You are just a dishonest piece of shit.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:13:36 2020 No.14632874

>>14629689
>schools need a more realistic approach to pedagogy. want to know a good way to make a teenager alienated from literature forever? force him to read William Faulkner and them force him to parrot your own culturally informed reading of the text

>School need a more realistic approach to teaching math. A good way to alienate teenagers from math forever is to make them do math.

Throughout history it have always been the most retarded idiots that suggest we change our teaching to what literal children want, instead of what they need.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:15:55 2020 No.14632879 >>14629797 Did you not read the "replaced by culturally diverse literature" part? Obviously this has nothing to do with planets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:20:53 2020 No.14632890 File: 113 KB, 1080x293, 1578765054102.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14628089 Yep, gotta study those left-wing classics. Upgolded!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:21:14 2020 No.14632892 >>14632754 >implying that's what they mean when they say "culturally diverse literature". You know diversity is about how brown your skin is and your sexual orientation, right?

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:26:26 2020 No.14632903

>>14632892
Yeah, I know, and that enrages me too. When they say "cultural diversity" they mean "American minorities". It's just another extension of Amerocentrism.
But you niggers with your delusion that sticking within the famous parts of the Western Canon is anything other than stagnant and self-lobotomising is equally posterior prickling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:27:22 2020 No.14632905 >>14632890 Countering shitposting with shitposting is still shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:30:23 2020 No.14632914 >>14632905 And?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:30:33 2020 No.14632916 >>14632879 And "culturally diverse" probably means "about identity politics topics". I doubt they are reading actually great books from other cultures like "Journey to the West" which are comparable to the Western Canon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:31:49 2020 No.14632919 >>14632874 Yeah, fuck Michel de Montaigne and shit, what a retarded idiot. Read "On Schoolmaster's Learning".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:32:17 2020 No.14632921 >>14632903 >sticking within the famous parts of the Western Canon is anything other than stagnant and self-lobotomising You get more from reading Homer and Tolstoy than you get from reading all of woke literature put together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:32:57 2020 No.14632925 >>14632921 Behold, the words of someone who has read some of Homer and the tvtropes page for Anna Karenina.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:35:18 2020 No.14632929 >>14632925 This is not really an argument, is it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:38:27 2020 No.14632937 >>14632929 No, it's an insult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:41:23 2020 No.14632946 >>14632929 Neither is >>14632921. It's just a statement of opinion. There's no reasoning behind it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:44:28 2020 No.14632950 >>14632946 >It's just a statement of opinion. No, as >>14632937 said, it is an insult. >There's no reasoning behind it. Is this the tactic of having an unequal demand for rigor?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:47:53 2020 No.14632965 >>14632950 What rigour do you discern in "Homer + Tolstoy > (((woke))) literature"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:50:18 2020 No.14632973 >>14632965 What is the rigor here >>14632903 or in the posts defending the woke changes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 05:56:37 2020 No.14632992 File: 108 KB, 926x678, I+hail+from+notaingloserstan+your+meme+was+bareable+at+first+_6440a0adad86f9e0223982bc54586149.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14629513 Everyone hates disgusting fat fucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:00:18 2020 No.14633005 >>14632973 There's no discernable rigour anywhere in this thread, or on most of this board. That's the point.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:04:52 2020 No.14633018

>>14633005
No, it is not. You tried to apply an unequal demand for rigor. You demand a higher rigor for posts you dislike than for posts you like.
That's why you picked up that post instead of any other in this thread.

Because it offends you that people don't take woke literature as very constructive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:06:21 2020 No.14633020 >>14633018 Anon, the reason I picked up that post rather than any other is because...it was replying to me. >"[opinion]" >No, [opinion] >"that's not really an argument, is it?" >No, you Now cease this self-martyring autism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:13:13 2020 No.14633035 >>14633020 Anon, this post >>14632925 is not an opinion, it is an insult. Again, you got offended by the opinion that woke literature is of little worth and tried to offend me. Then, you tried to apply an unequal demand for rigor when it didn't work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:14:37 2020 No.14633038 >>14628069 Such a waste just for political statement >>14629545 /pol/ hasn't been right for a while, that place has gone to shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:17:13 2020 No.14633044 >>14633035 Anon, it's a bit embarrassing I have to be the one to point this out, but you were the one who made the unequal demand. You said "this is not really an argument, is it?", when you yourself had presented none..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:28:20 2020 No.14633065 >>14628089 Yay!! Upvote!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:29:46 2020 No.14633069 >>14633065 BAITED

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:30:52 2020 No.14633075 >>14628069 >melissa_lbi >"this account doesn't exist" Fucking losers and/or assholes instigating for their own enjoyment or "validation"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:32:43 2020 No.14633080 Postcolonial studiea are on par with creationism. Completely deluded and only serve to fulfill an ideal narrative

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:34:04 2020 No.14633086 >>14633075 Wife. Mother. Servant Leader. Living daily to glorify God. Blessed to lead teachers to inspire children to be engaged readers and writers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:36:48 2020 No.14633096 >>14633086 Ok the account existed at one point. Doesn't change the fact she's a hypocritical conservative retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:37:34 2020 No.14633100 >>14628069 what books though? most of those are probably trash

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:38:52 2020 No.14633103 >>14630868 >It's not happening >They're just an internet strawman >You're crazy >Actually it is happening and its a good thing >It was always like this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:42:20 2020 No.14633122 >>14628069 Chaponiggers should be shot on sight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 06:43:58 2020 No.14633130 >>14633044 Pointing out that a post is an insult is not a demand for rigor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:09:53 2020 No.14633200 >>14633130 Sure, anon, you were just randomly calling my post "not an argument". You certainly didn't mean to imply that not being an argument was a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:11:49 2020 No.14633203 >>14633200 I called you out because your post was an insult

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:12:34 2020 No.14633204 >>14633203 There ya go then. You're the one applying uneven standards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:18:01 2020 No.14633226 >>14633204 You just want to be the last person to post, don't you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:18:55 2020 No.14633229 >>14633226 I'm actually trying to figure out why tf you think I was the one applying the standard when you were the one complaining first. I do believe you truly think it was me, which is why I'm curious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:30:28 2020 No.14633243 >>14629737 i imagine a lot of books that are considered racist now because they have nigger in them but no list of titles has been released

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 07:35:13 2020 No.14633253 >>14629513 >They really do hate us, don't they? Yes, they do. It will make much more sense to you from now on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 08:03:21 2020 No.14633305 >>14630621 Spoken like a true cocksucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 08:47:07 2020 No.14633418 >>14631278 Not the same poster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:16:21 2020 No.14633526 >>14633305 Why are rightoids so easily triggered? It's like they're trying to be outraged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:44:06 2020 No.14633622 >>14629689 Nah. Anti-whites are real and all shitlibs may count themselves in their ranks. It is unambiguous racism and it will only get worse. Thankfully, your cringe nonsense will be disregarded out of hand. The people are awake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:46:24 2020 No.14633631 >>14628069 >relevant To what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:46:31 2020 No.14633632 >>14633526 Even using the term "triggered" seriously is utter submission to right-wing will.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:47:11 2020 No.14633634 >>14633622 There is nothing wrong with "racism" and your insipid ideology of equality will not be allowed to weaken my people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:47:40 2020 No.14633636 >>14633526 Left-wing trash once again illustrating that they don't love their own children. Fortunately, some of us do. The future will not be as ugly as you want it to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:48:06 2020 No.14633638 >>14633636 Based schizophrenic anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:53:03 2020 No.14633655 >>14628069 Libtard: The nazi's burned books! Also Libtards: Its only ok if WE destroy books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:54:49 2020 No.14633660 >>14633526 Because having sincere attachment to something other than bodily comfort is frustrating when half the political spectrum is intent of seeing those things destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 09:59:52 2020 No.14633689 >>14633660 Imagine being so "frustrated" you can't distinguish the most obvious bait ever baited.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:02:51 2020 No.14633700 >>14628089 Marxism is the opiate of the intellectuals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:03:55 2020 No.14633706 File: 168 KB, 977x977, Book Burning.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14633655 No one ever bothers to ask what books the Nazis burned...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:13:42 2020 No.14633746 >>14629804 You are okay Anon, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The climate on here can get toxic and I want you to know that your opinions hold merit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:14:55 2020 No.14633749 >>14633689 I've seen the sentiment expressed sincerely enough times to not care. This is my place to vent my frustrations about the the omnipresent Spectre of leftism that lingers over any space I'm able to enter in my daily life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:15:30 2020 No.14633752 >>14633749 >I've seen the sentiment expressed sincerely enough times to not care The autist's defence. Know that there is no defence for autism, anon. You are genetically inferior.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:17:54 2020 No.14633757 >>14633746 >toxic you fat sack of estrogen

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:17:58 2020 No.14633758 what's wrong with throwing some mass produced paperbacks in the garbage? people acted as if this woman was burning rare manuscripts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:20:03 2020 No.14633767 >>14632992 Look who's talking...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:20:19 2020 No.14633769 >>14633752 If I were autistic I wouldn't least have an excuse. I'm just consumed by a most impotent rage

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:20:35 2020 No.14633771 >>14633757 Are you feeling better after telling me off? Your path of hatred is highly unhealthy and deep down you know that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:20:50 2020 No.14633773 >>14633769 Have you considered viagra? Then it would be potent rage, at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:21:57 2020 No.14633779 >>14633758 Nothing, her making a spectacle of it and her cheap rhetoric is the bad part about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:24:21 2020 No.14633790 >>14633069 >I ONLY PRETENDED TO BE RETARDED

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:25:17 2020 No.14633792 >>14633790 I'm just doing my part, fighting my crusade to let you eternally outraged niglets know that you're inventing your own anger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:25:28 2020 No.14633794 >>14633771 Your pathetic kowtowing to official religion is admittedly probably a more adaptive behavior, but it's still pathetic.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:29:45 2020 No.14633810

>>14630321
>the group that progressed society in the first place

Why do /pol/tards have such a narrow view of history? The Chinese, Indians, Muslims , and Europeans have all contributed greatly to the development of society. Europeans have only been the dominant force for the past few hundred years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:31:57 2020 No.14633821 >>14633746 >>14633746 He's a bad person and his attitudes towards pedagogical attitudes have harmed society. Making him feel less than okay would be the greatest thing this board has ever accomplished.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:33:32 2020 No.14633830 >>14633810 >The Chinese, Indians, Muslims , and Europeans certain groups conspicuously absent lmao

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:35:24 2020 No.14633834
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>>14633526
Remember that the use of the word "triggered" was meant to mock tumbltards who pretended to have PTSD symptomes because someone disagreed with'em. Here, in this case, people rightfully inform you that you are nothing but trash

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:36:13 2020 No.14633836 >>14633834 So why ARE rightoids so easily triggered?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:36:48 2020 No.14633837 >>14628069 I literally can't describe how much I hate these people. I wish I wasn't born in this era.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:40:26 2020 No.14633849 >>14633821 This thread is an identity politics circlejerk of the highest degree and differences in the respective viewpoints are semantic, null and culturally learned. One day you may understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:40:30 2020 No.14633850 >>14633834 They unironically think 'no u' is some brilliant rhetorical display. This is the problem with spending all your time in places where nobody is allowed to dissent, you get a highly twisted sense of how clever you are

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:42:03 2020 No.14633859 >>14633849 They will never understand. They have failed to pass the first test.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:43:53 2020 No.14633866 >>14633794 I don't know why you drag "official religion" into this, but I just want you to know that you are an amazing human being and have the power in you to make your life better without putting others down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:44:52 2020 No.14633870 >>14633849 >it's all culturally learned Your belief that you're not a dumbass is culturally learned bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:48:58 2020 No.14633881 >>14633850 >>14633870 poetry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:49:03 2020 No.14633882 >>14633849 >literal blank slatist ITT I hope you get tortured to death, scum.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:53:46 2020 No.14633897 >>14633882 Do you think the content of your post is the reflection of your authentic self, or culturally learned in the context of abrasive, edgy language on 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:55:21 2020 No.14633902 >>14633881 That's not no u it's ad absurdum demonstration of relativism being gibberish

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:56:16 2020 No.14633905
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>>14633792
>i-its in your head!
>theres no problem with people praising ignorance and universities arent filled with such people!
>i liek to maek u mad anyway teehee
Now you can finally end your life..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:56:41 2020 No.14633906 >>14633897 >authentic self Clearly a toxic meme your culture has drilled into you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 10:59:35 2020 No.14633914 File: 36 KB, 506x404, 1573424420522.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14633836 Not even the smelliest, most pathetic stormweenie manchild acts like your average attention-starved tumblrina, and I have spent countless painful hours on /pol/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:05:25 2020 No.14633933 >>14633906 I highly doubt that empathy and introspection is more "toxic" i.e. mentally unhealthy than what's on display in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:07:43 2020 No.14633948 >>14633933 You doubt that because your culture has inculcated it into you, you're nothing but an imperialist forcing your ways on other people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:07:49 2020 No.14633949 >>14633902 Yes it's gibberish, like everything in this thread. There are 103 unique Posters flinging 12 words per post on average against each others heads to see what sticks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:08:56 2020 No.14633952 >>14633849 Being culturally learned or socially constructed doesn't make them or the differences between them meaningless or reducible to semantics. Yours might be the worst post in the whole thread.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:13:49 2020 No.14633972

>>14633810
I'm not the one you are discussing with and I don't agree with him.
>The Chinese, Indians, Muslims , and Europeans have all contributed greatly to the development of society.

Yes, but they are not exactly adding alongside the works of the Western Canon the "Journey to the West" or Mahabharata. They are not having students read Lady Murasaki.
They are trying to replace the works of the Western Canon by identity politics.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 11:24:48 2020 No.14634008

>>14633948
like everyone on this thread, but my initial posting was to aid a fellow human in an attempt to tell him it's okay and to not take the dissent on here too seriously. Basically in the same vein as you do right now.
>>14633952
My post was not worded very precise, you are right in that regard. I was merely trying to scrape away the culturally learned appendages to education and exposing the thread for what it is. This thread reads like a facebook page of soccer moms trying to critique an educational system because it differs from theirs and having been a student once makes them experts on pedagogy. Some people here focus on the aspect of carrying the torch of a cultural and educational canon. If you wanted to critique that, you could say that the insecurity of this argument stems from fear of invalidation of the own education. Other people on here focus on adaption to current paradigms. If you wanted to critique that, you could say that the insecurity of this argument stems from validation of the cognitive dissonance they have with the structure in place, or an attempt of iconoclastic will to power.
In the end, there are people here talking about what it means to receive "good" education without measuring or even defining what "good education" is, using highly emotional and logically flawed arguments to serve at most their sense of identity. That's what I meant with "null" - the argument itself is not really defined and the positions of the respective debaters, if stripped off cultural and identity context, are not apart by much. They want children to read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:35:36 2020 No.14634313 >>14628069 Reminder that diversity of skin colour is all that matters. Diversity of ideas (not intrinsically tied to skin color) is bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:28:53 2020 No.14634780 >>14628089 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:37:07 2020 No.14634820 >>14630479 I think you expressed what a lot of people think, thank you. I wish people argued in good faith.

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