/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14619747]

What makes Homer and Virgil better than any capeshit?

[Anonymous No.14619770]

Nothing

[Anonymous No.14619797]

>>14619747
talent, intelligence, and wisdom

[Anonymous No.14619799]

>>14619747
I haven't read it but I'd assume it actually has real plot development. All the marvel movies I see are just CGI showcases

[Anonymous No.14619803]

>>14619747
tomato.. easy on the male gazing

[Anonymous No.14619874]

>>14619799
>he reads for the plot

[Anonymous No.14619881]

>>14619747
Good writing
The real question is, what makes capeshit so inferior to Virgil and Homer

[Anonymous No.14620018]

>>14619881
lack of talent, caring, and soul. See Watchmen. Capeshit can also be elevated. its mainly just about someone pouring essence into it.

[Anonymous No.14620140]

>>14620018
Watchmen is pure midwit garbage.

[Anonymous No.14620157]

>>14619747
Homer and Virgil have deep ties to culture while all capeshit is the product of decadent modernity.

[Anonymous No.14620162]

>>14619747
The Iliad is literally capeshit, and it's fucking wonderful

[Anonymous No.14620171]

Capeshit is Jewish poison

Homer was a bearer of the culture, moral and mythical history of a people

[Anonymous No.14620173]

>>14620162
>The Iliad is literally capeshit
Reddit is that way.

[Anonymous No.14620181]

Because capeshit exists solely to appease a power fantasy of being able to enact moral authority over others, but offers little in the ways of critical thinking.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.14620202]

>>14619747
Gravitas and heritage

[Anonymous No.14620235]

>>14620171
This. There is no mythology behind capeshit, it was created as a purely consumerist ploy.

[Anonymous No.14620304]

>>14619747
Because Homer is old, therefore reading him makes you monocled.

[Anonymous No.14620322]

>>14620171
>Homer was a bearer of the culture, moral and mythical history of a people
Throwing cuckold buzzwords around isn't an argument retard

[Anonymous No.14620334]

>>14620140
Not the original Alan Moore book. Filtered.

[Anonymous No.14620340]

>>14620202
>heritage
Wrong, honey. Valuing heritage or antiquity as if it were a value in itself is debased.

[Anonymous No.14620524]

>>14619747
>Homer
Well, in translated form, it loses it's main aspect, it's poetic form. It retains it's underlaying humanity and Homer's ability to somehow, without saying it directly, show various elements of human nature and paint very pretty pictures with descriptions.

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.14620589]

>>14619747
Real peril

Hector was never revived by a Lazarus Device or revealed to actually have been a clone from Dimension X. There was never any speculation that he might come back in Iliad #2 and team up with Golden Age Hector.

[Anonymous No.14620622]

>>14620589
Have you ever read the Iliad, faggot? Literally Deus ex machina the book. BRB, God's gonna shroud me in clouds right before dying

[Anonymous No.14620745]

>>14620334
Not him, but yes it is. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.14620820]

Homer's work is divinely inspired metaphysical allegory, it is a holy text of both Greek and broader Indo-European religion

[Anonymous No.14620866]

>>14619874
>He reads because he is compelled to

Lmaoooooooo even fucking worse

[Anonymous No.14621961]

bump

[Anonymous No.14622031]

What makes anything anything?

[Anonymous No.14622047]

>>14620173
It quite literally is. You just pretend it isn't because it's old and because muh Greeks.

[Anonymous No.14622070]

>>14619747
Homer and Vergil's works are more thematically, aesthetically, and poetically developed. Capeshit is not even close to that.

[Anonymous No.14622082]

You need only look to the effects. Entire cultures based values off the works of Homer. People heard recitals of these poems and were joined into a cultural collective. Nowadays you can go to the theater, watch capeshit, and it won't change your life or values in the slightest. Well at least positively, there's probably an argument for increasing consumption as a true value of culture.

[Anonymous No.14622088]

>>14620173
But it undeniably is

[Anonymous No.14622099]

>>14622088
You can continue to apply your little anachronistic, revistionist labels but it won't really work.

[Anonymous No.14622104]

>>14619747
(1) historical significance
(2) lack of an intent to profit
(3) one piece of work refined by the ages instead of a character created by one person, written by another and drawn by another etc
(4) the explicit intent to appeal universally as opposed to being one issue in a serial
(5) the strict utilization of words and the extensions of them instead of visual imagery

None of these assessments are quality judgements— you can like whatever, but they separate the works significantly

[Anonymous No.14622109]

>>14622047
A better comparison would be the Lord of the Rings, but even that was consciously created as myth so it's not really the same thing.

[Anonymous No.14622806]

>>14619747
The foot that launched a thousand ships

[Anonymous No.14622948]

>>14622806

[Anonymous No.14623544]

>>14620171
>Capeshit is Jewish poison
You couldn't explain what you mean by this gibberish if you tried.

[Anonymous No.14623575]

>>14620140
Which is still elevated from the McDonald's-tier trash that constitutes capeshit movies.

[Anonymous No.14623598]

no pictures

[Anonymous No.14623619]

>>14623544
promotes and enables manchild culture in western white males. it renders them intellectually impotent. flacid minds.

[Anonymous No.14623639]

>>14623619
All of that shit is correlation vs. causation in the most classic sense. The original superhero comics did not in any way promote and enable these things, but unchecked greed, liberalism, and processed foods certainly do.

[Anonymous No.14623659]

>>14623639
Not him but superhero comics are the epitome of soulless capitalistic corporate sludge. Comics have never been good.

[Anonymous No.14623666]

>>14623659
They're just stories about heroes you fucking weirdo.

[Anonymous No.14623898]

>>14619799
>>14619874
>reading

[Anonymous No.14623904]

>>14623666
ok npc