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>> No.14566432

>>14566401
Weird choice of story to make into a film

>> No.14566519

Who cares, Lovecraft is absolute trash.

>> No.14566525

>>14566432
I always thought any adaptation of it should be done in black and white, if it promptly had to be done.

>> No.14566527

>>14566401
>I...is that...AN INDESCRIBABLE COLOR?? AAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCK I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAANE OH FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M FUCKING GOING INSANE!!!!!!!!!

>> No.14566533

All the Lovecraft adaptations make me realize how 90% of the Lovecraft readers don't understand his work.

>> No.14566536

>>14566519
say sike right now you fucking roach
>>14566533
this

>> No.14566538

>>14566536
Nah I’m good. Enjoy being a retarded tasteless high schooler though.

>> No.14566540

>see purple
>UUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH BRAIN GO CRAY CRAY UUUUUH THIS IS WORSE THAN THAT TIME I SAW AN ITALIAN AAAAAAAAARGHHHH

>> No.14566545

>>14566533
please explain his work

>> No.14566573

>>14566538

Enjoy reading Stephen King you fucking troglodyte.
>>14566545
It's a personal experience. It's not made for mass public consumption.

>> No.14566585
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14566585

>It's a personal experience. It's not made for mass public consumption.

>> No.14566592

>>14566519

t. Niggeryazidi

Lovechad is king. Colour out of space not one of my favs though

>> No.14566596

>>14566573
Who said I read Stephen king? You’re grasping at straws here bud. But good try.

>It’s a personal experience. It’s not made for mass public consumption.
Hahaha you’re such a fucking idiot. “Muh secret esoteric meaning that is too deep for you to grasp”. Absolutely pathetic. The only obscurity or inaccessibility in Lovecraft is his amateur, over-written purple prose. Once you parse through his try-hard fan fiction writing style there’s nothing profound to his fiction. The only thing separating you from people who “don’t get it” is that you’re emotionally and mentally stunted and most people to want to waste time wading through shit prose for empty entertainment.

>> No.14566597

>>14566545
People read his stuff for "muh scares" and "muh uncomprehending cosmic entities", but all those stuff are just backdrop to the actual stories and themes. There's a reason Lovecraft never went into details, when it came to all the alien stuff, because all of it is trivial. When you make an adaptation all about Cthulhu or the cosmic mystery itself, you are just jerking around a meaningless part of the source material.

>> No.14566600

>>14566525

Theres a weard spanish adaptation of shadow over innsmouth, but instead of innsmouth its on a isolated spanish island and a couple strand their on a wrecked ship.
The man gets to fuck a mermaid princess but his gf is raped by a group of fish-men.

>> No.14566604

>>14566600
Sounds pretty hot.

>> No.14566609

>>14566596

Well, the first and foremost thing about Lovecrafts work is hating niggers. After that comes hating chinks, and then italians, though at the bottom of the barrel lie the yazidi devil worshippers and their Dutch puppetmasters.

>> No.14566616
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14566616

>>14566573
>>14566585
the absolute state of lovecraftfags

seethe more

>> No.14566623

>>14566604

Lovecraft is full of horrible sex, but i still cant fathom how edward derby got his virginity taken by his deceased father-in-law (the thing on the doorstep)

Thats pure chaos right there.

>> No.14566626

>>14566600
I think it was portuguese... I can't remember its name tho

>> No.14566628

>>14566604

it is. torrent should still exist somewhere.
film is called 'dagon' by the way. it's not bad, but the sfx are dated

>> No.14566645

>>14566626
Dagon

>> No.14566660

>>14566597
what are the actual stories and themes then? If I recall correctly most of his protagonists didn't even have names. So what are the stories about if not weird shit and aliens?

>> No.14566668

>>14566401
>AHHHHH IT'S PURPLE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.14566674

>>14566660

Quantum physics, post-cyclopean architecture, unapoligetic racism and anglocentricism, mind-control incest, and other high IQ topics

>> No.14566676
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14566676

>NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE SPACE SQUIDERINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.14566683

>>14566628
It's on tubi.tv for free too

>> No.14566694

>>14566683

who would you have gone for, squidlington north or el basico espagnola?

>> No.14566714

>>14566676

Kek

>> No.14566787

>>14566674
as someone who reads Lovecraft, I think you have a skewed image of his work.

>> No.14566899
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14566899

>>14566401
>indescribable colour
>it's pink

>> No.14566922

>>14566899
Its purple you dum dum

>> No.14566946

>>14566787

>as a r*dditor

fuck off and let the big boys talk ok?

>> No.14566963

>normie: what is cosmic horror
>it varies but the fundamental premise is that there are whole aspects or dimensions of reality that dwarf our present naive conceptions of it, and that the the real cosmos is a vast and scary place, possibly even filled with intelligences and wills that are completely alien to ours, completely uncanny and of totally different scales and orders of magnitude, it's sort of like trying to replicate the terrifying sublime feeling of staring into an unfathomable abyss, of being humbled by something so much more powerful than you that it forces a higher-order conception of reality on you in an instant, giving you a kind of vertigo, and often this vertigo is tinged with the eerie sense of dealing with uncanny and malevolent intelligences behind it or latent in it
>normie: so it's when a thing with tentacle might kill you?

why can't there be any good cosmic horror media that capture the slow burn feeling of reading a genuinely good cosmic horror story? anyone remember the movie event horizon, which starts out with this inherently eerie idea of "if the ship is vanishing into another dimension and then reappearing in our familiar dimension, what exactly is the nature of the other dimension?", and within 40 minutes the answer is "slasher movie"

>> No.14566965

>>14566922
Who cares you weed smoking Jew
Colours are b*llshit anyway

>> No.14566973
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14566973

>>14566519
it's got Nic Cage in it, so it will be amazing.
If you haven't seen Mandy, check it out

>> No.14567008

>>14566538
>high school
>Lovecraft
Whatever you say bud. You get triggered by niggerman?

>> No.14567068

>>14566973

Good taste anon

>> No.14567202

>>14566525
This this this this


They should have made it in black and white so that the colour would have been a fog of an indefinite shade of grey.
I knew they were gonna make it some gay colour like purple.
This is so retarded

>> No.14567393

>>14566963
For the same reason why virtually all aliens in Star Wars are creatures with humanoid bodies with human thoughts. As a human, it's impossible to write outside the perspective of something with a human consciousness, and any attempt to try write a nonhuman character only brings it back within the domain of human consciousness. There is nothing alien that originates from human consciousness, our consciousness. This is why all humanoid aliens and those written from a first person pov have human qualities, and why most space scifi authors suck. Lovecraft knew this and did his best to illustrate this point. A breakaway from consciousness is a breakaway from humanity itself, hence madness.

>> No.14567708

>>14566973
Mandy was deliberately really superficial, but not in a way I could get behind. I just thought it was lame because it didn't go the distance to be something really cool, ala Scott Pilgrim vs the Psych Cenobites inside a pulp scifi paperback cover.

>> No.14567721

>>14566963
>>14567393
Annihilation I think succeeds at getting closer to depicting the philosophy of cosmic "horror" in a visual form. The last of the Southern Reach books, Acceptance, I think does this as well. Confusion and dissatisfaction are evoked where genre conventions would have you expect corny slasher or jump scare touches.

>> No.14568118

>>14567008
if anyone, looks like it’s the seething Lovetards that got triggered

>> No.14569115

>>14566545
the horrid doesn't come from the incomprehensible monsters, it comes from the universe that creates them and the fact that we can't even begin to understand our reality, humanity's tenuous position in the stories mimics our position in nature and the inescapable monsters represent everything we can't control that could easily kill us all.

>> No.14569168

can someone post the picture of the cat with the "HELP ME LOVECRAAAFT"

>> No.14569518

>>14566899
Why do people always miss the part where he explains that the only reason why the call it a colour is because the have nothing else to associate it with?

>> No.14569544

The Idea of Lovecraft > Lovecraft

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>>14566899
>>14566922
ITS FUCKING GLOWING CYAN YOUR RETARDED FUCKS

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14569669

> Of all my work, they choose one that is literally impossible to recreate on film. Astounding

>> No.14569988

>>14569669
dude, get back to being dead and shit, you're creeping me out

>> No.14570353

>>14569669
kek

>> No.14570988

>>14566545
No one else can describe an open countryside and somehow turn it into palpable anxiety. His stories don't mean anything. They are abstract wordplay. But they are beautiful displays of pathos, and it's difficult to figure out what makes them work

>> No.14571050

>>14566519
sorry you have to live with retardism dude, hopefully one day you get better

>> No.14571057

>>14566533
i think 90% of people who say they like lovecraft think cosmic horror amounts to tentacles and eyeballs and miss everything else

>> No.14571064

>>14566787
no he's 100% correct

>> No.14571072

>>14566401
What's your favourite Lovecraft story lads? For me it's "The music of Erich Zahn".

>> No.14571146

>>14571072
The shadow out of Time, followed by The Whisperer in Darkness.

>> No.14572007

>>14571146
>The Whisperer in Darkness.
I liked the general direction of this story but the end was too predictable.

>> No.14572035

>>14566573
>Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product.

>> No.14572063

>>14571072

Dreams in witchhouse + shadow over innsmouth + the temple (nautical horror)

Honorable mention of the thing on the doorstep where EDWARD GOT HIS VIRGINITY TAKEN BY HIS "DEAD" FATHER IN-LAW POSSESING HIS DAUGHTERS BODY WHAT THE FUCKKK

>> No.14572068

>>14572007

Did he "go insaaaneee?".
Hmm. Yes, I see

>> No.14572119

>>14572063
>the temple (nautical horror)
I love the way the narrator shittalks the non-Prussians in the submarine "he was a typical effeminate Rhinelander".

>> No.14572302

>>14567393
There’s a short story from the perspective of the alien from The Thing (1982) that illustrates your idea about nonhuman consciousness in a very interesting, even chilling way: http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

>> No.14572312

>>14566401
Oh nononono

>> No.14572316

>>14566527
>OMG it’s an indescribable colour!
>is purple

>> No.14572659

>>14572302
That was great. Disturbing images and a lot of meaning. Really liked brain as a tumor, the centralisation part and the one about loneliness. Thanks anon

>> No.14572679

>>14566401
It's probably still more entertaining than this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqbYOs_sE20

>> No.14572699

>>14566973
Unironically one of the worst films I've ever seen, and I watched plenty of garbage films.

>> No.14572888

>>14572119

Still true to this day. Rhineland is full of cucks and niggers

>> No.14573111

>>14570988
this is what I thought when I originally read them

>> No.14573382

>>14566973
That movie was dogshit. Far too aware of how cheesy it was trying to be to the effect of making the whole thing extremely mundane, typical 21st century cynicism. The seemingly ever-present contrapoints colour scheme only increased the astronomical levels of obnoxiousness.

>> No.14573522

>>14572302

Very nice

>> No.14573586

>>14567393
I think it’s possible to do justice if you have contemplated metaphysics for a bit. What are the limits of our intelligence, than make an extrapolated concept, like how we can mathematically describe a 4 dimensional object, but can not comprehend it. Or maybe how one would make a 2 dimensional crosfram of something 3D.

Create a crosssection if the unknown that may be displayed in the known. Of course you cannot think of what the unknown is but you can make a vague crossection if it that alludes to something’s much graver.

I hope I explained that well.

>> No.14573633

Rim of the Morning by William Sloane is still my favourite Cosmic Horror. Like, you know the reveal is coming from page 1, but that makes it so much worse as you read through the recounting of events and know that nothing you can do will prevent what’s going to happen and the characters are coming to the conclusion too slowly to stop it.

>> No.14574395

>>14566694
Idk what the fuck you're talking about. If that's a reference I have not watched it.

>> No.14575465

>>14571072
Whisperer in Darkness and (of course) Shadow over Innsmouth are my favourites so far, but I still have a lot to read.

>> No.14575475

for a second i thought nic cage wrote a book

>> No.14575482

>>14571072
My favorite deep cut is Ex Oblivione. Beautiful story. I have a lot of it memorized since it is so short

>> No.14575489

>>14567202
it already exits Its in german though

>> No.14575515

>>14571072
Color out of Space and Notes on Sir Arthur Jerym and His Family

>> No.14575557

>>14575465
Shadow over Innsmouth is overrated and Lovecraft would agree with me. More than half of the story is a guy explaining the whole backstory in an unreadable accent.

>> No.14575603

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89OP78l9oF0

Annihilation did it better, even it wasn't officially Color out of Space

>> No.14575676

>>14566545
universe big and uncaring
people small and insignificant
fear of the unknown

that's pretty much it

>> No.14575818

>>14566597
>>14569115
>>14570988
Based

>> No.14576720

>>14571072
I generally prefer his short dream cycle stories. My favourites are Polaris, The white Ship and especially The quest of Iranon.

>> No.14576751

>>14575603
poor mans under the skin

>> No.14577875

>>14576751
Under the skin is overrated anyway

>> No.14577952

This was great, Lovecraft was never high art, it was pulpy shlock. Films like Reanimator, From Beyond, Dagon and now this are great adaptations.

I’m pretty sure the entire lovecraft fandom is people who enjoy the stories and get hyped up about how “unsettling” or “existential crisis inducing” they are, without ever feeling much more than piqued interest and brief introspection about the ideas presented. BUT they *think* that the books would be utterly mind blowing for regular dumb people, not realising that they themselves are completely regular.

Has anyone ever read Lovecraft and been affected for days afterwards? Had any great shift in worldly perspective? No. But his fans act as if they do, great works of litriture that destroy conventional understanding.

They are enjoyable pop corn trash. An attempt to make a high budget, art-y film would be an embarrassing disaster.

>> No.14578039

>>14566525
Wasn't there a black and white adaptation some 10 years ago?

>> No.14578073

>>14578039
I was correct
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1756479/

>> No.14578404

>>14577952

The temple made me sleep bad desu

>> No.14578515

>>14571072
i would say the quest for unknown kadath assuming familiarity with his other stories, the music of erich zahn as a stand alone.

>> No.14578527

>>14572302
watts's books are decent as well, prettygood at describing the thought process of somebody who cant even begin to comprehend those around him.

>> No.14578674

Lovecraft is mainly literal horror that doesn't translate well onto the screen.
But there are some decent attempts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHQ3bsx6FQ