masculinity

[Anonymous No.14566055]

as a man that grew up without a masculine rolemodel i feel i might be lacking in being a man since i never learned anything about how men should be. is there any good books to read up on about masculinity/being a man?

[Anonymous No.14566057]

books are for girls, you're looking for a football or something idiot.

[Anonymous No.14566067]

I think you are misunderstanding being a man with toxic masculinity.

[Anonymous No.14566073]

>>14566055
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings—nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run—
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!

[Anonymous No.14566096]

>>14566073
thats really good, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.14566464]

>>14566055
Read Shakespeare’s Henry IV/V plays or see a decent film or live performance. Prince Hal is a spoiled aimless kid with no good male role models—his corrupt father and his court, fat debauched drunk Falstaff (who is actually the best mentor in a weird way) or his posse of dumb bros. By the end of the play he has become the ideal warrior king, calm and resolute in danger, respected by his men of all ranks, a terror to his enemies and able to count and marry a woman despite his awkwardness around girls. Better than any number of self help books for men.

[Anonymous No.14566476]

>>14566055
Jordan Peterson - 12 Rules for life

[Anonymous No.14566480]

>>14566055
Read the Stoics and biographies of old Romans.

I like this quote by Tokugawa Ieyasu too

>The strong manly ones in life are those who understand the meaning of the word patience. Patience means restraining one's inclinations. There are seven emotions: joy, anger, anxiety, adoration, grief, fear, and hate, and if a man does not give way to these he can be called patient. I am not as strong as I might be, but I have long known and practiced patience. And if my descendants wish to be as I am, they must study patience.

[Anonymous No.14566482]

>>14566055
>>14566476
Seriously though, just read old Greek Poems about masculine warriors like the Iliad and the Odyssey or someshit

>>14566067
cringe

[Anonymous No.14566484]

>>14566055

The art of manliness website is your best bet. Great resource.
https://www.artofmanliness.com/

[Anonymous No.14566506]

>>14566055
I also grew up with no male role model, but I'm more masculine than anyone I know. It's just something in you, you don't learn to be a man. Most wild animals are only raised by their mothers, a bear doesn't need to be taught to be a bear, he IS a bear. You are either a man or you aren't.

[Anonymous No.14566514]

>>14566506
>I'm more masculine than anyone I know
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.14566521]

>Abusive dad, weak mother
>Constantly had to bend to everyone else, never learned to be assertive and think through what I want and be able to get it

Anything for this?

[Anonymous No.14566542]

>>14566514
I just feel it. I feel like a lone wolf howling at the moon all the time. I look at married men and just shake my head, all they do is serve women constantly. I see it in boomer men but in married guys my age (late 20s) it's even more acute, total emasculation. The only woman I do anything for is my mother and she deserves it.
Value adventure and don't stay comfortable for too long.

[Anonymous No.14566647]

>>14566055

If you are trying to gain masculinity from reading about it you've already failed. You'll just come off like someone trying too hard to be something they are not, and your actions will seem affected.

[Anonymous No.14566667]

>>14566073

perfect expression of the handwringing english mentality.

[Anonymous No.14566731]

>>14566055
Iron john

[Anonymous No.14566747]

>>14566647
This. My dad is a pathetic oldschoolmanliness faggot who had a weak father figure and I'm ashamed of him.

[Anonymous No.14566763]

>>14566055
Here you go, bro.

[Anonymous No.14566810]

>masculinity
how effective you are at imposing your will. next question?

[Anonymous No.14566873]

>>14566067
actually this

>>14566506
>a bear doesn't need to be taught to be a bear, he IS a bear.
this too

masculinity is a sOciAL ConStRuCt. don't strive to be things because they are masculine or anti-masculine, just exist within your nature. self-reflect a bit. reading jordan peterson is the worst thing you could do if you're feeling unconfidant, he'll just sell you spooks

[Anonymous No.14566906]

>>14566542
You seem like a faggot

[Anonymous No.14566926]

Read and apply. Only then can you become a male role model anon. Have hobbies like working out, hiking, fishing, preparing medicinal herbs, hunting etc. Reading should only widen your horizon as to what is possible and what you should be doing, here is a short list of good books to start with:
> No Longer Human (teaches you how not to behave and you will most likely recognize yourself in Yozo the MC)
> Mein Kampf (find the uncensored version)
> Growth of the Soil (uplifting and cozy read)
> The Divine Comedy
> The Way of Man
> Journey to the End of the Night
> Culture of Critique
> 200 Years Together
> Revolt Against the Modern World
> Ride the Tiger
> Patriotism by Mishima
> The Prince
> Either/Or

Tl;dr join a gym and become an eco-Fascist

[Anonymous No.14567001]

>>14566055
The best approach in my opinion is to seek male role models in fiction books in which the story is oriented towards the hero and his development. Find inspirations in such tales.
Now the other, more important thing is the specific skills and knowledge you can obtain from a vast number of books. And finally, the most important part is having the courage to implement the things you learn and believe in into your lifestyle and voila, you're a man now.