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Have anyone refuted him yet?

>> No.14557614

>>14557595
Yes. There is no individuality or Ego to speak of, we are socially conditioned and molded by our environment. Also, how is his individualism different from the cancer that's afflicting the Western world right now? Insofar as you want to build a revolutionary movement, emphasis on individual suffrage rather than collective liberation is to be avoided

>> No.14557677

>>14557614
The Modern west is not an "Union of Egoists" if that's what you're implying.

>> No.14557681

>>14557595
Yes. Any philosophy that does away with the subject, self, individual, self, ego etc.

>> No.14557727

>>14557681
However, I do not think that can be done in a rigorous system. As perceiving entities we cannot be sure or not the anything beside the perciever exists. The non existence of self is only something that could be ascertained in the phenomenal world.

>> No.14558077

>>14557595
there's still nothing wrong on anything, like holding morals, even is you are OUGHT to be egoist. so the proposition is null and void. no egoist nor post-structuralist can escape the fact their perception is on conditional, they cannot simply escape by saying so

>> No.14558163

>>14557595
Retroactively refuted by Guenon.

>> No.14558221

>>14557727
>rigorous system
"Rigorous" as defined by the Western (Cartesian) philosophical tradition.

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14558241

>>14557595
Individuality in a world of collectives is suicide. Also pic related

>> No.14559087

>>14557614
read the book

>> No.14559092

>>14558077
>>14558241
haven't read the book

>> No.14559110

>>14557595

I have, but you have to have an IQ of 160+ to understand it.

>> No.14559117

>>14558241
>collective
>wellbeing
>society
Spooky.

>> No.14559124

>>14557614
Cancer - the post

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14559139

Things that are nothing to me:
>refutation
>other """philosophers""" participating in mental gymnastics trying to negate the one thing that actually is
>this nigger >>14557614
>jannies

>> No.14559140

>>14559110
IQ is a spook.

>> No.14559148

>>14559092
you want photographic evidence, oh wait stop forcing your spirit on me

>> No.14559444

>>14559148
yes

>> No.14559450

>>14557595
Arthur Schopenhauer obviously.

>> No.14559457

>>14557595
Postactively refuted by Rene Guenon

>> No.14559479

>>14558241
>individualist people are ugly l completely destroyed your point!

>> No.14559627

>>14557614
what the fuck are you on about m8

>> No.14559667

>>14557595
>14557595
read more post less

>> No.14559683

>>14557595
Deleuze critiques both Stirner and Hegel using Nietzsche in his work Nietzsche and Philosophy but outside of that his radical nomenalism is pretty rock-solid.
>inb4 m-muh spiritual universals

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>> No.14559906

>>14557614
Absolute embarassement of a post, the least you could do was look at his wikipedia page before giving me second hand brain rot

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14561304

>>14557595
modern philosophy just pretends he doesn't exist
when i brought him up in the polisci department only one person knew the name

>> No.14561523

>>14561304
Marx wrote an entire part of German Ideology about him. Marxist scholars should definitrly know who he is.

>> No.14561572

>>14557595
ecclesiastes 1:17

>> No.14561597

>>14557595
No they haven't, the solution is that you just ignore what he said.

>> No.14561608

>>14561304
rent free

>> No.14561615

>>14557595
His argument is a spook, just as all positions I disagree with.

>> No.14561655

>>14557614
All the people disagreeing to this but not actually explaining why kek

>> No.14562541

>>14557614
The composite nature of experience can certainly make people think that the concept or self is an illusion - but it can be equally seen as inllumination.

Guess which path doesn't lead you to becoming a whiny, marxist shithead?