/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14546210]

You anons better not be participating in this garbage. Piracy is immoral.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-rise-of-illegal-pirate-libraries

[Anonymous No.14546213]

>>14546210
What is immoral about piracy?

[Anonymous No.14546221]

this is my hill to die on

[Anonymous No.14546228]

>>14546210

[Anonymous No.14546245]

Giving knowledge to the goyim, FOR FREE?
OY ALL MY VEYS

[Anonymous No.14546251]

>>14546210
get back to me when mass market paper backs are available for dissent right literature

[Anonymous No.14546254]

>>14546210
>want to hold all the world's knowledge
>give it away for free
What the fuck is this conflict of themes?

[Anonymous No.14546305]

>>14546254
Trying hard to angle something to fit a narrative.

>>14546210
I'm a librarian and I am all for piracy and the free sharing of knowledge. People are already pretty upset about the scalping tactics of large publishers, so they'll get no sympathy from me. Personally I never actually pirate though, since reading digital files suck.

[Anonymous No.14546321]

All these things are nothing to me:
>copywrite infringement
>the profits of publishers
>the damage to profiteering academic journals
>the feelings of gatekeepers
>government censorship
>the morality of piracy

[Anonymous No.14546346]

FREE THE KNOWLEDGE
>tfw no personal database of every book ever written

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.14546395]

>>14546210
>What’s that? Free college?
>You can’t do that!!!

[Anonymous No.14546541]

>>14546210
http://archive.is/57mY8
fuck your two year old click bait
find another board to ruin pls

[Anonymous No.14546765]

>download pirated book because hate publishing industry and don't want to support them
>don't like reading on computers so decide to get it printed at my local print shop
>costs about 10x as much but at least i'm not supporting the publishing industry

[Anonymous No.14546787]

>>14546213
nothing, it's unethical

[Anonymous No.14546803]

>>14546765

proud of you anon

[Anonymous No.14546810]

>>14546787
Is there an agreed difference between the two?

[Anonymous No.14546826]

>>14546321
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.14546830]

>>14546810
Ethics is a term used by people who think "morality" comes with too many religious connotations.

[Anonymous No.14547022]

>>14546787
what is unethical about piracy?

[Anonymous No.14547035]

>>14547022
nothing about is unethical per se, but it's definitely very immoral

[Anonymous No.14547043]

>>14547035
this is becoming silly

[Anonymous No.14547066]

>>14546210
good bye, wild west

[Anonymous No.14547346]

>>14546254
You have to have something first to give it.

[Anonymous No.14547353]

How will I know if a book/movie/album/video game is worth buying if I don't read/watch/listen/play it to completion? I'm not trying to be facetious, I really mean this.

[Anonymous No.14547356]

>>14546210
Obligatory

[Anonymous No.14547364]

>>14546210
Yes, because the rich kids/grandkids all deserve the monies of their dead writer grandparent.

[Anonymous No.14547420]

>>14546213
it disrupts the naval trade routes usually

[Anonymous No.14547472]

Then start providing me every book ever written in the world at my local book Shop which is not more than walking distance away. I'm not paying for a fucking ebook ever though.

[Anonymous No.14547477]

>>14546321
This, I remain unconvinced of any moral tailoring in the copying of "goods"

[Anonymous No.14547478]

>>14546213
nothing

[Anonymous No.14547483]

>>14546787
bait

[Anonymous No.14547489]

>>14547420
i audibly kekd

[Anonymous No.14547493]

>>14546210
more like "shadowy rights owners and huge publishers want to hold all the world's knowledge, make it expensive and unavailable in your country, counteracting the digital revolution in the name of money"

[Anonymous No.14547495]

>>14546321
Fuck spooks.

[Anonymous No.14547498]

>>14547493
I understand the moral hazard and possible sin in copying a novel, or worse selling copies of a novel. MUCH less I understand gatekeeping of academic papers and works.

[Anonymous No.14547499]

>>14546321
>the actual influence you as a single person have on the market
almost zero
>the amount of money you can save by downloading ones and zeroes off the internet
thousands of dollars over your whole life

[Anonymous No.14547501]

>>14547499
My local library tracks the dollar values of books i read, to say nothing of the shit i grab off of libgen or soulseek. I probably save at least 2,000 USD a year between myself and my kids.

[Anonymous No.14547507]

>>14547353
You don't. It's part of the information asymmetry that limits the efficiency of capital markets.

[Anonymous No.14547555]

>>14547507

[Anonymous No.14547650]

Piracy is BASED and REDPILLED

Giving money to cucks like the author is CRINGE and BLUEPILLED

[Anonymous No.14547673]

>>14547356
Opps doesn't apply very well here... Weak meme. Opps is you but on the other team. Not the overseers you run from. That's the cops.

[Anonymous No.14547679]

>>14546787
>Unethical
Here's another question. Who cares?

Our priests touch little boys, our elected reps sell our countries and futures out from under us, our community leaders are involved in pedo rings and our soldiers fight for Israel and Oil. Literally every possible paragon of decent behavior in our society has turned out - publically - to be a complete hypocrite that only pays lip service to ethics in the hopes that people like us will watch our behavior so that other people don't have to.

Show me a society where the top behaves ethically and I'll admit that the ethics argument has any weight. Not before. Until that time, who cares about the ethics of piracy?

[Anonymous No.14547710]

the irony being that this is a photo of trinity college library, which stole the book of kells from catholic irish peasants lol

[Anonymous No.14547748]

>>14546541
>fuck your two year old click bait
You're really good at math, huh?!?

[Anonymous No.14547815]

The only thing that's immoral is only allowing authors to write what sells, instead of whats good

[Anonymous No.14547823]

>info that can be changed literally at any moment
Yeah, no thanks

[s10241875 No.14548086]

>>14546210
>"The largest pirate libraries have come from Russia’s cultural orbit..." and so on

Finally, proud to be Russian!

My algorithm:
1. Want a book
2. Looking for: is it available for free download?
a. Available: download and read. End.
b. Unavailable: see below.
3. Buying a book.
4. Read
5. I cut the book into pages. (Yes, I destroy the integrity of my copy. For improving the quality of the scan)
6. Scan pages
7. I convert scans into full pdf/djvu with recognized text.
8. I post it on a torrent tracker for full free anonymous access.
Enjoy!

[Anonymous No.14548096]

>>14546210
nigga I live in a shithole, money spent on original books would be like to months of rent

[Anonymous No.14548101]

>>14546765
I spend 80% less by printing

[Anonymous No.14548146]

>>14547815
Based

[Anonymous No.14548147]

>>14548086
Based Ruskies.

[Anonymous No.14548151]

>>14548086
Absolutely based bringers of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.14548161]

>>14548086
U can digitise it by taking pics of the pages too, no need to cut. Takes a bit more time tho

[Anonymous No.14548171]

>>14547679
>I do bad things
>other people do worse things
>therefore, I'm in the clear

your argument is about as retarded as
>what are you complaining about?
>kids in africa are dying of starvation

[Anonymous No.14548177]

>>14546210
>Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.) If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.” A US judge, presiding over a trial for copyright infringement, recognized that “piracy” and “theft” are smear words.
What is so wrong about sharing knowledge anon? One could argue it is a moral wrong to hoard knowledge.

[Anonymous No.14548181]

>>14546321
Holy fucking based. Have an upboat

[Anonymous No.14548199]

>>14546210
a; c a B
ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS

[Anonymous No.14548202]

b-but what about people who make a living selling book or records or whatever?

[s10241875 No.14548208]

>>14548161
Yes, but I'm trying to get the best quality scan. In the case of small books, I can do exactly what you wrote.

Unfortunately, most scientific books in my language are published without digital copies and are very small (<1000, usually 500 copy) edition.

>>14548147
>>14548151
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.14548231]

>>14548202
you shouldn't profit off the intellectual labor of others. publishing should be nonprofit

[Anonymous No.14548261]

>>14548231
I really did mean about the authors

[Anonymous No.14548280]

>>14546321
Are you chinese by any chance?

[Anonymous No.14548312]

>used to think seeding is for suckers
>now i realize how virtuous and immoral it is NOT to seed
FUCK ATT DATA CAPS

[Anonymous No.14548315]

>>14548086
As a lower class thirdworlder I cannot tell you how much money I saved as a young man in engineering university thanks to russian torrent sites and anon, both in software and books.
Now I have a comfy job in a foreign owned manufacturing plant and I no longer worry about money.

[Anonymous No.14548318]

>>14548261
Vetted literary authors aren't affected by piracy. They get paid up front and make marginal gains in royalties. Most such authors also work primarily as editors, professors, or freelance contributors because book money is so small. As for non-vetted or non-literary authors? Fuck em, the world could use fewer bad books.

[Anonymous No.14548339]

>>14548312
does seeding slow down your computer? i noticed when i left utorent on for days at a time that my computer would start to lag, but i mean it's a piece of shit anyway

[s10241875 No.14548363]

>>14548315
Better for you and better for everyone.

>>14547364
Well, in this option - you can just send them the money in one way or another. But only at will, and not for the sake of the publisher: "you know, I need to feed all these literary heirs ..."

[Anonymous No.14548535]

>>14548315
Now it's your turn to give back.

[Anonymous No.14548544]

>>14546321
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.14548592]

>>14548339
Yes, if you're seeding a lot of things that are actually being leeched.

[Anonymous No.14548598]

>>14547420
kek'd

[Anonymous No.14548602]

>>14548339
Also you should be able to go into settings and limit your active torrents and your upload speed to prevent this.

[Anonymous No.14548633]

>>14548086
Thank you

[Anonymous No.14548718]

>>14546210
Books should be free but contain Adds

[Anonymous No.14548735]

>>14548718
agreed. i am seriously pro- putting advertisements in all books and literature.

[Anonymous No.14549010]

>>14547364
why does a grandchild deserve royalties but a great-great grandchild does not?

[Anonymous No.14549025]

>>14546210
Giving knowledge a monetary value is immoral. Information should be free.

[Anonymous No.14549110]

>>14547673
>>14547356
"Opps" in London slang means a rival gang to your own, so who is Stirner's rival gang?

[Anonymous No.14549255]

>>14548718
as long as they're double-sided like old comic book ads so I can tear the page out without removing any of the book itself

[Anonymous No.14549275]

>(((Laskow)))

How do you still doubt /pol/ after countless articles of Jew shit like this?

[Anonymous No.14549892]

where are these libraries so as to stay away from them

[Anonymous No.14550176]

>>14548086
You are a god and never have I heard something so divine

[Anonymous No.14550193]

>>14546321
based and freedompilled

[Anonymous No.14550200]

>>14546210
Yarrr

[Anonymous No.14550369]

>>14548086
hello Based department

[Anonymous No.14550444]

>>14548086
god's work

[Anonymous No.14550460]

>>14546210
>need obscure journal about course material
>that'll be $500 for use of this one time resource please
lol no, academic writing is a meme and if you actually pay for it your playing yourself chump

[Anonymous No.14550485]

I only managed to do my master’s dissertation because of libgen/scihub. My university has no deal with elsevier, jstor, nothing. Thank you, based Eastern Europeans.

[Anonymous No.14550666]

Do book publishers do the same thing as record labels where they own your music and you rent their studio for 200K and your first 20 years of sales go to paying that back?

[Anonymous No.14550671]

>>14550666
>You can have the privilege of using our printing press if you sign over the rights to your story for a one time payment of $500

[Anonymous No.14550743]

>>14548086
Thank you

[Anonymous No.14550750]

Being able to copy books and distribute infinitely is probably good for literature.

[Anonymous No.14550799]

>>14548339
>utorrent
here is your problem

[Anonymous No.14550816]

>>14546213
https://newideal.aynrand.org/why-patents-and-copyrights-matter/

[Anonymous No.14550836]

What if I never buy new books and I just buy them all used and exchange them?

[Anonymous No.14550854]

>>14546321
Not to sound reddit, but that post is extremely based

[Anonymous No.14550864]

>>14546210
The only thing immoral about piracy is that information isn't free to begin with. Go back to shilling your "best sellers" that only recieve the title because the publishers buy millions of copies themselves you poor brainwashed excuse for a literate monkey

[Anonymous No.14550884]

fuck off I only read from screens
and for free
paper makes my eyes bleed

[Anonymous No.14550888]

>>14548086
based russian bro giving us shit for free

[Anonymous No.14550893]

>>14547498
>MUCH less I understand gatekeeping of academic papers and works.
the profit margins on these academic journals can go up to about 40% (Elsevier and their ilk)
"""open access""" just means they charge the author instead of the reader, and they charge thousands for publishing
Meanwhile, universities pay their academic staff like shit, and significantly less than their much less useful and much less qualified administrative staff - PhD students will be getting paid less than minimum wage in most places, despite having the full duties of a research employee in most cases, while postdocs get paid only marginally better but still at a rate which is fucking disgraceful for how much they do
Library Genesis is one of the most based sites on the entire fucking internet for making this shit free
t. academic

[Anonymous No.14551043]

>>14546210
>what is supporting the intelligentsia by purchasing a physical item which stores information without relying on external sources, tools, infastructure or energy to keep it accessible in the event of deliberate tactical attacks on the power grid, unintentional power blackout, or inevitable societal collapse.

[Anonymous No.14551052]

>>14551043
A clarifying note: reasons for sticking with buying physical books instead of pirating them.

[Anonymous No.14551081]

Why are americans so pussy about sharing 1s and 0s?

[Anonymous No.14551098]

>>14546221
>Information wants to be free
Pure ideology. Information has utterly unbalanced conventional economic wisdom and I love it. Of course information "wants" nothing. It's an abstract pattern. What matters is what society wants of it. The danger here is that information has such a broad definition. It's everything and nothing. Anything can be conceived of as having an informational trace, and so the most radical take on this position surely results in insanity. The password to my bank account does not want to be "free" I can tell you, free in the sense of openly available and accessible to all. The most gung-ho interpretation of open access is absurd given that there is always some information which individuals or groups demand be siloed from the world at large in order to operate. Some information truly is private, and being able to regulate access to it is a fundamental attribute of autonomy. Therefore anyone who embraces the open access position must therefore adopt a more restricted interpretation of its scope. The key question then becomes: what information should be free?

It is interesting how the word "free" alternates between its two meanings like an optical illusion in this discourse. Free as in costless and free as in openly accessible. While the two relate closely, information can still be priced and free if it is affordable, and such an arrangement would also ensure a sustainable economy increasingly centered on information. The double meaning is not without implications. Google is a situation where enormous profit value is rendered by making information free, and other configurations of the senses can be observed.

Scientific knowledge is one example of information which is best free, both in the sense of without cost and openly available to all. The monetization of science is perverse in the first place, so liberating can only be an act of correction. Needlessly over-expensive textbooks for example are only that way because of perverse incentives. And the open availability of scientific information begets science. Siloing and price tagging it is a sign of perverse marketization.

Yet even in this "best case" one can argue against it. Should recipes for manufacturing anthrax be free? The case can be made that it should not be for sale, but neither should it be given away openly. The expectation is that those who need to know about anthrax for research purposes have access to it, and making it public can only therefore mean providing it to terrorists.

The term "information" is also used greedily to subsume art. Literature most acutely. We expect creators to produce for free or abuse them through digital piracy, thereby undermining the very incentive which yields the content to pirate in the first place. You cannot have an economy that is increasingly centered on information and yet tends toward giving it away without compensating its producers.

[Anonymous No.14551102]

>>14551043
>muh books are a priority when power grids are being intentionally attacked and society is collapsing
actual autism

[Anonymous No.14551106]

>>14551081
>censoring buyfag

[Anonymous No.14551124]

>>14546210
Just liek Gutenberg? These bastards can't keep getting way with it!

[Anonymous No.14551148]

>>14551102
Ever heard of survival handbooks? Besides, as human beings, pretty much the only thing we have going for us is information. Be it singing, constructing tools, food production or amusement. Why reinvent the figurative wheel, when there's literally hundreds of years' worth of knowledge. To retain all that knowledge in the form of books is a small price to pay for the priviledge, wouldn't you agree?

[Anonymous No.14551209]

>>14551148
unless you're a prepper hoarding survival books, your argument makes no sense.
>pretty much the only thing we have going for us is information. Be it singing, constructing tools, food production or amusement
life's not a survival zombie game. You know what books are for when SHTF? burning. Any tradesman or farmhand is handy enough to know any of those things without needing books and you'd learn from them because guess what, practical skills are learned in practice.

[Anonymous No.14551285]

>>14551209
>unless you're a prepper hoarding survival books, your argument makes no sense.
How come?

>practical skills are learned in practice
And when there's no one around you to teach you those practical skills - like in the case of big cities, habited by officeworkers who are accustomed to the modern way of life with prepackaged meat being provided to them right into their doorstep in a plastic wrap? Then what?

[Anonymous No.14551389]

>>14546210
What the fuck is the point of a library if it’s all roped off?

[Anonymous No.14551403]

>>14546210
>giving information away to the masses...for free!!!
>oy vey!!!
>>14546245
ah fuck

[Anonymous No.14551404]

>>14546765
Based

[Anonymous No.14551407]

>giving money to blue haired problem glasses (((publishers))) so they can push pozz and brown people down my throat
No.
>>14546321
absolutely based beyond based

[Anonymous No.14551416]

>>14548086
a scholar and a hero.

[Anonymous No.14551425]

>>14548718
Books should be free and mine cryptocurrency

[Anonymous No.14551435]

>>14546210
it would be incredibly immoral of you all to navigate to libgen (dot) is and download books for free
the evil site has pretty much any book or textbook you could ever want, how horrible!
it would be very bad, don't do that

[Anonymous No.14551456]

>>14550816
>aynrand.org
yeah dude, whatever

[Anonymous No.14551467]

As a lawyer I wish I could dismantle copyright law, or at least bring it back to a shorter time period. But the law is there to protect property.

[Anonymous No.14551518]

>>14551467
>property
you mean (((property)))

[Anonymous No.14551536]

>>14548086
blessed post

[Anonymous No.14551608]

>>14548339
might be a memory leak in your network card

[Anonymous No.14551624]

>>14549892
libgen.is
sci-hub.se
b-ok.cc
booksc.org

[Anonymous No.14551632]

>>14546221
>>14551098
God damn it anons, put the quote back into the original context in which Brand used it, and there's nothing controversial about it.

>On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other.

[Anonymous No.14551635]

>>14546210
Why does this make it out to be a bad thing

[Anonymous No.14551640]

>>14546210
morality isn't real baby

[Anonymous No.14551648]

>>14551640
who's a superstar? you're a superstar. that's right, you're the superstar baby you. they all love you. super. star.

[Anonymous No.14551920]

>>14546765
>costs about 10x as much but at least i'm not supporting the publishing industry
Where the fuck you print idiot? I can doing it with only 5-10 dollars per every 200 pages, less if I really try find a cheap printing.

[Anonymous No.14551933]

>>14547679
They will say the same thing about you though.
>well anon here isn't moral so why should I be moral?
It starts with the individual and if you decide not to be woe on you.

[Anonymous No.14551954]

>>14546321
Uniqued and Spoonerpilled

[Anonymous No.14551991]

there are things running out on the planet, data is not one of them, stop being retarded.

>>14546321
this is what i would expect from the average 4chaner, god this place has fallen.

>>14551043
said by the guy using a pic from an """"artist"""" that cant stop """"adapting"""" content from others and removing all soul from them.

[Anonymous No.14552002]

>>14546321
The moral cause, then Academia's cause, the cause of journals, of publishers, of gatekeepers, of censors, of bureaucrats; furthermore, the cause of my laws, my government, my intellectual property; finally even the cause of profit and a thousand other causes, all irrefutably BTFO

[Anonymous No.14552030]

I find it funny how they didn't even mention Bibliotik, hehhe

[Anonymous No.14552097]

>>14548202
>records
Most bands only make money touring. Many tour well into old age even though they sold lots of records because the record company and producer took almost all of the money.

[Anonymous No.14552408]

>>14546765
>Not resizing it to size 4, narrow margins, multiple columns, and removing paragraph spacing so you can fit 15,000 words per sheet of paper
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14552410]

>>14546321
This instance is more moral that what would you tought.

[Anonymous No.14552416]

>>14546765
>>14546765
>costs about 10x as much but at least i'm not supporting the publishing industry

Imagine that here in the third world printing it is still cheaper.

[Anonymous No.14552419]

>>14551467
>>14551518
Property is Theft

[Anonymous No.14552423]

>>14551632
Original context only goes so far. It acquired a life of its own.

[Anonymous No.14552435]

>>14548086
How is thar Russians are so based?

[Anonymous No.14552480]

>>14546210

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-rise-of-illegal-pirate-libraries

Well, I do get a lot of digital books from the Gutenberg website and these days I also buy physical copies of books. I try not to go back to pirating, even then, some of the books I have pirated, I don't really read or haven't read much of them, some of them I have read. I do plan on buying actual physical copies of those books, though, mostly because after I get the physical copies, I can free up space on my hard drive.

[Anonymous No.14552498]

>>14547673
u sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.14552508]

>Payment and reserved copyright are at bottom the ruin of literature. Only he who writes entirely for the sake of what he has to say writes anything worth writing. It is as if there were a curse on money: every writer writes badly as soon as he starts writing for gain.

[Anonymous No.14552510]

>>14548086
>>14548312
>>14550888
>>14552435

The Russians lived under Communist rule and the Communists dictated what could be published and printed. If an individual published something that they considered heresy to the Marxist regime, then that person would be sent to the gulags or probably killed. So there was some kind of underground movement to get works of writers published if those works went against Marxism and the Russian Communist regime. The writers may not have gotten paid, but their works did get out to people and read by those people.

[Anonymous No.14552713]

>>14546810
>>14546830
lmao i thought the difference was that morality is in a person, like their character and behaviour, whereas ethnics is standards independent of that.

[Anonymous No.14552725]

that was actually an interesting article and despite the trolly op and the way some people have responded to it, pretty even-handed and non-judgemental about the whole thing

[Anonymous No.14552798]

>>14546210
>laskow
I was expecting a "-stein".

[Anonymous No.14552810]

>>14550816
>Would you walk into a store, grab a bottle of wine, and walk out without paying for it?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14553086]

>>14550816
Fuck intellectual property

[Anonymous No.14553110]

>>14550816
>aynrand.org
Not even surprised

[Anonymous No.14553133]

>>14546210
Piracy is not immoral. If you were a true artist it wouldn't matter to you if people were ripping your work off. Having someone sit down and take the time to experience something that you created is infinitely more valuable than any amount of money.

[Anonymous No.14553265]

>>14548086
Doing good work there

[Anonymous No.14553294]

>>14546210
>Modern publishing is infected with woke cancer
>releases constant shit tier softbacks instead of glorious hardbacks
>nepotism worse than most industries
I'd happy pirate every book if it meant real change

[Anonymous No.14553608]

547501
>>14547501

What is soulseek my kind anon? I looked and ut looks like a p2p program, how does that help with books?

[Anonymous No.14553741]

How do we break up the academic journal racket?

[Anonymous No.14553850]

>>14546210
>for free
That's not a pirate library, they don't even let you upstairs and they charge you to get in

[Anonymous No.14554506]

>>14552498
u sound like i fuck your mom

[Anonymous No.14554564]

>>14552408
im assuming you wear a monocle

[Anonymous No.14554592]

I don't think what is right depends on the circumstances. Even though there are big publishing companies profitting at the top, there are still workers lower down that depend on that book selling. And if it is a smaller, lesser known book company, they definitely needs the funds.

A lot of 4chan people want to feel powerful and contrarian by saying "f the rules I'm gonna pirate hahaha" but it legitimately does impact small publishers with niche writings quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.14554611]

>>14548086
beyond based

[Anonymous No.14554638]

>>14554592
For me, it's ethical piracy.
Most of the time, I only pirate dead authors or books that I've already physically bought.
Similar with games. I pirate from big fat leech studios but (consider) buying from independent or solo developers (such as Rakuen).
I made a promise with myself that when I get rich, I'll pay back all the musicians, writers, and developers that I've pirated, provided they need the money more than big publisher/studio corps and it actually goes to their pockets.

[Anonymous No.14554652]

>>14550816
Most, if not all right-libertarians and anarcho-capitalists are against intelectual property. The capital owners, academics and aestheticists defend it because they are benefited by it. I've meet intelectuals that were open about their hatred towards the private property of capital goods but would recoil at the tought of not being able to profit from intelectual property.

[Anonymous No.14554675]

>>14550666
Varies. My understanding is they want exclusive publishing rights rather than de facto ownership.

[Anonymous No.14554698]

>>14552810
based

[Anonymous No.14555343]

>>14548086
based Russian
not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need

[s10241875 No.14555783]

>>14548633
>>14550176
>>14550369
>>14550444
>>14550743
>>14550888
>>14551416
>>14551536
>>14553265
>>14554611
>>14555343
Oh, guys, you overpraise me. I'm a little confused. Thanks.
I really appreciate it.

>>14552510
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat
Yes, this partly affected the situation.

>>14552435
There is such an aphorism:
"The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-enforcement of their implementation." (attributed to Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin (probably not)). (It doesn’t sound so bulky in our language.)
It’s kind of like our way of thinking:

Government/International law//Reptilians and so on:
>"You know: copyright is now the law, because it is The Law.
Let's discuss how moral it will be..."

Russians:
>"Yeah, cool. Morality, law and all that stuff. Love, adore !"
(Invents 15 ways to get around the law)

This is not entirely good, because we get used to not fighting for our rights.
We cheat.

I have a law degree (Master of Contract Law), by the way. Heh.

[Anonymous No.14555804]

If theres an actual artist still alive making niche stuff I love, I will pay for it so they can get more. Jewish publishers reaping money from the work of an artist decades or centuries in the ground can suck my cock.

[Anonymous No.14555864]

>>14548086
A real hero

[Anonymous No.14555944]

>>14548171
He never said he was in the clear, he just said who cares if its unethical.

[Anonymous No.14556159]

>>14546210
a real library. both take business from publishers and authors but one costs the taxpayer

[Anonymous No.14556169]

>>14548086
how long does it take you to scan a whole book?

[Anonymous No.14556192]

>>14553850
They would never let you touch those books

[s10241875 No.14556324]

>>14556169
It depends on which book.
Number of pages, format (is it possible to scan two pages at once), black-and-white / color illustrations.

I'm scanning this one now (about 450 pages) http://www.vostlit.ru/KartNotSerial/kart525.htm (second part of the full кussian translation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rites_of_Zhou , )

it will be about 3 times for 1.5 hours.
I usually watch a movie / documentary / YouTube / listen to the radio in the process. So it’s not too tiring.
There are friends from rutracker.org who are ready to recognize/convert scans and make an PDF.

[Anonymous No.14556353]

>>14547420
*sensible chuckle*

[Anonymous No.14556389]

>>14546210
baited the shit outta them

[Anonymous No.14557154]

>>14552810
Nice

[Anonymous No.14557279]

My family's income is $ 7.5K a year, the taxes on products and services takes up to 55% of this, we live out of favor in a house that is falling apart, i am trying to find a job for 3 years and cannot find shit, my most expensive possession is my laptop, because of piracy i am able to have thousands of books.
how many years of my family's income do you think my library is worth it?

[Anonymous No.14557472]

>>14551435
the real evil is that genlib rusec doesn't have every single bjook in exists >:'(

[Anonymous No.14557568]

>>14557472
There are probably more ebooks than real books in the world.

[Anonymous No.14557597]

>>14548086
I only read books that are out of copyright, but good on you I guess.

[Anonymous No.14558083]

>>14551624
Aren't those last two the same website?

[Anonymous No.14558107]

>>14547346
"Hold" is the keyword here.

[Anonymous No.14558113]

>>14547353
You wait for the reviews, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.14558193]

>>14556192
I washed my hands. But yeah guards everywhere

[Anonymous No.14558267]

>>14549110
The Spookerz

[Anonymous No.14558627]

>>14553850
>books for display purposes only

[Anonymous No.14558725]

>>14546321
based

[Anonymous No.14558756]

>>14548086
thank you, sincerely

[Anonymous No.14558773]

>>14557279
priceless anon, keep doing what you do, acquiring ebooks and learning. i wish you the best :)

[Anonymous No.14559029]

>>14546210
>be librarian.
>order books with unlimited budget
>reserve and borrow books when they arrive
>scan them with industry grade equipment and software
>print them out with free staff printing

I guess being a wage cuck isn't always so bad

[Anonymous No.14559045]

>>14559029
Are you a heroic soul who also uploads these scans for others to read too?

[Anonymous No.14559200]

>>14555783
>Oh, guys, you overpraise me. I'm a little confused. Thanks. I really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.14559284]

>>14546830
Yeah that silly Aristotle guy

[Anonymous No.14559480]

I want to print some out of print books and sell them on Amazon. They're not yet in the public domain but the author and translator have been dead for years. How fucked would I be? Would they just take it down or sue me?

[Anonymous No.14559515]

>>14548086
I would to kiss your cheek in a manly Russian way.
Also recommend the best book literature torrent sites/trackers.

[Anonymous No.14559550]

I am currently seeding a major part of the LibGen project from my home as torrents using VPN.

My ISP is probably seething due to the high amount of traffic I generate, but they cannot do shit, since it is all encrypted traffic going through some east european shithole with a corrupt and defunct justice system.

I'm doing my part.

[Anonymous No.14559563]

But isn't the point of libraries already to be a place where you can go and read whatever you want for free?

[Anonymous No.14559604]

>>14555804
They should print and deliver for free?

[Anonymous No.14559610]

>>14559550
Based

[Anonymous No.14559710]

>>14559563
This.
Is there some sort of license that is "required"?
Why doesn't someone just set up an "official" digital library?

[Anonymous No.14559755]

>>14553608
soulseek is like open source napster with a respectable shared book base

[Anonymous No.14559836]

>>14548086
Based and PrometheusPilled

[Anonymous No.14559928]

>>14559710
People are. In my country several major libraries are in the process of digitalizing and uploading their books. People are obviously just mad about this because they can't make money as easily. It's nice, nowadays I can just legally download PDFs of classics, not that the legal part ever really mattered to me.

>>14559550
Baserat

[Anonymous No.14559953]

Kinda related, I tried to buy some books on Kindle Store just now and it said that it couldn't charge to my card, but the books downloaded anyway and I can read them just fine, so I don't really want to pay since it's not my fault their system is fucked. Will something happen eventually should I not update my payment settings? I don't really care if they block me accesing their shitty store.

[Anonymous No.14559984]

>>14551081
Have a non-reddit version, friend.

[Anonymous No.14560108]

>>14559953
do what everybody does. remove the drm and copy it and then return the ebook to get a refund

[Anonymous No.14560110]

>>14559984
extremely based

[Anonymous No.14560319]

>>14560108
It doesn't work, it seems that as I couldn't pay for it, it didn't get tied with my Serial Number, so DeDRM fails, while on books I actually paid for it works flawlessly. Any other way to decrypt books? I actually feel like doing nothing now DESU, what are they gonna do, lock my kindle in 30 days?

[Anonymous No.14560404]

>>14546210
Thank you for alerting me to this immoral practice.

[Anonymous No.14560455]

>>14551991
I actually think you're the newfag

>>14546321
>the damage to profiteering academic journals
good men should feel obligated to bring about this here

[Anonymous No.14560557]

Behold. I have over 200GB of pirated books. 16,500 files at an average of $25 per book ends up as $412,500 USD of pirated material.

[Anonymous No.14560697]

>>14560557
How many actually read?

[Anonymous No.14560812]

>>14546210
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SHARE KNOWLEDGE FOR FREE
>HOW WILL THE PUBLISHERS AND AUTORS FEED THEMSELVES???

[s10241875 No.14560817]

>>14559515
My cringiest post ever!
___________________
Sorry, I just could not keep it in my head. Soon I will answer normally.

[Anonymous No.14560827]

Alright, I need some redpilled chads to help out here. What’s the Catholic position on pirating intellectual property. This chapter on vain knowledge in “The Imitation of Christ” sticks out to me

>”EVERY man naturally desires knowledge; but what good is knowledge without fear of God? Indeed a humble rustic who serves God is better than a proud intellectual who neglects his soul to study the course of the stars. 3 He who knows himself well becomes mean in his own eyes and is not happy when praised by men.
If I knew all things in the world and had not charity, what would it profit me before God Who will judge me by my deeds?
Shun too great a desire for knowledge, for in it there is much fretting and delusion. Intellectuals like to appear learned and to be called wise. Yet there are many things the knowledge of which does little or no good to the soul, and he who concerns himself about other things than those which lead to salvation is very unwise.
Many words do not satisfy the soul; but a good life eases the mind and a clean conscience inspires great trust in God.
The more you know and the better you understand, the more severely will you be judged, unless your life is also the more holy. Do not be proud, therefore, because of your learning or skill. Rather, fear because of the talent given you. If you think you know many things and understand them well enough, realize at the same time that there is much you do not know. Hence, do not affect wisdom, but admit your ignorance. Why prefer yourself to anyone else when many are more learned, more cultured than you?
If you wish to learn and appreciate something worth while, then love to be unknown and considered as nothing. Truly to know and despise self is the best and most perfect counsel. To think of oneself as nothing, and always to think well and highly of others is the best and most perfect wisdom. Wherefore, if you see another sin openly or commit a serious crime, do not consider yourself better, for you do not know how long you can remain in good estate. All men are frail, but you must admit that none is more frail than yourself.” Chapter 2

[Anonymous No.14560831]

I’m building a codex for future civilizations to discover.
then everyone in the future will only like the things that I liked.

>>14546221
based

[Anonymous No.14560838]

>>14560827
The entire second paragraph is quoted, not just the greentext. Format error

[Anonymous No.14560859]

>>14546321
he cute
(You), not the pic

[Anonymous No.14560873]

>>14546765
shockingly based

[Anonymous No.14560946]

>>14560697
more than you

[s10241875 No.14560993]

>>14559515
>I would to kiss your cheek in a manly Russian way.
It's /lit/ so I will answer through quoting: Nicolai Gogol, "Taras Bulba"
"Yes, he's a glorious fighter," said Bulba, pausing; "by God! that was a good one!" he continued, somewhat as though he were excusing himself; "yes, although he has never tried his hand at it before. He'll make a good kazák! Now, welcome, my lad, let's greet each other;" and father and son began to exchange kisses.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Taras_Bulba/Chapter_I

"Why, he fights pretty well!" said Buliba, pausing. "By God, he fights well!" he continued, patting down his clothes. "So well that perhaps I'd better not have fought him at all. He will make a good Cossack! Well, son, welcome home! You can give your father a kiss now!" And father and son fell to kissing each other."
https://archive.org/stream/tarasbulba00gogouoft/tarasbulba00gogouoft_djvu.txt

“Yes, he fights well,” said Bulba, pausing; “well, by heavens!” he continued, rather as if excusing himself, “although he has never tried his hand at it before, he will make a good Cossack! Now, welcome, son! embrace me,” and father and son began to kiss each other."
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1197/1197-h/1197-h.htm

In the original, Taras does not speak like a teacher, but like an old pirate, a warboss. Translation is tasteless in this regard.

>Also recommend the best book literature torrent sites/trackers.
For my "English" needs I have enough - http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ + https://b-ok.org/ + archive.org (for old stuff).
I use "rutracker.org" but it does not have an English interface. They say that the administration abandoned the idea of making the En-version, fearing problems with GloboShlomo. For users from Russia, the site is completely blocked, by the way. But there is a proxy, of course.
I do not know any good English lit. trackers. There are large file-scrapyard. Like "Pirate Bay", huge and unorganized.
On the "rutracker" there is moderation, organization, quality control of the content and, most importantly, a community of users who are ready to help, get a rare book. A lot of very interesting people.But we try not to attract too much attention = problems, so the site is unlikely for a foreign audience. However, music-lovers (music does not require translation) from different countries visit him. ((For Coomer there is a his twin brother "pornolab.net)).

I honestly don’t understand why "piracy" (prefer "release") is so poorly developed on the English-speaking Internet (which is ten times larger than our "ru" sector). But maybe I don’t know something.

[Anonymous No.14561098]

Buying used books is unethical too

[Anonymous No.14561259]

>>14548086
blessed and piratepilled

>>14559515
myanonamouse.net

[Anonymous No.14561307]

>>14548208
Not him, but I recently came across this scanner in an ad, and it sounds promising. Waiting for it to drop on Amazon so I can buy it. Do you have any thoughts?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/czur-scanner-build-your-own-digital-library--2#/

[Anonymous No.14561310]

>>14546765
Just buy a Kindle. The screen mimicks paper

[s10241875 No.14561693]

>>14561307
425 Burger$hekels ? Not so expensive, why not.

My old HP Photosmart is enough for me. A friend uses the old Xerox with automatic, he stole it from the office - true Pirat. The people discussed the Plustek OpticBook4800, there are certain advantages but many disadvantages especially for colors.
So I'm definitely not some ScanGuru.

[Anonymous No.14561869]

>>14560557
Magnet link? I promise I'll seed