DON'T START WITH THE GREEKS

[Anonymous No.14543602]

Reading Socrates' autistic ramblings is a waste of time. Aristotle has been btfo'd a long time ago. Start with the enlightenment thinkers.

[Anonymous No.14543614]

>>14543602
you said it like Enlightenment thinkers haven't been refuted

[Anonymous No.14543635]

Anon where do you think the enlightenment thinkers got all there ideas from

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.14543651]

Well I already did. I never mean Socrates exclusively when I tell People to start with the Greeks. There’s a lot of them to choose from.

>>14543614
Naw. Liberalism, utilitarianism, capitalism, yeah.

[Anonymous No.14543656]

>>14543635
Descartes

[Anonymous No.14543658]

>>14543602
>Don't start with addition, it was BTFO by multiplication a long time ago. How dare you start the beginning and form your own opinions as you read through the collected works of people forging their own beliefs about the world over twenty-three hundred years ago, beliefs literally older than Christ.

Start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.14543662]

>>14543602
>enlightenment
LOL

[Anonymous No.14543676]

>>14543651

>Naw.
fair enough
>Liberalism, utilitarianism, capitalism, yeah.
These are literally cornerstones of Enlightenment thought.

[Anonymous No.14543680]

>>14543602
>enlightenment thinkers
They did nothing but reinvent the wheel and make it worse. And they're all Aristotelians, obsessed about the apparent, about intellect, incapable of understanding the probable, the uncertain, the paradoxical, the hidden, the intuitive.

[Anonymous No.14543682]

>>14543662
this lmao

funniest OP I’ve ever seen

[Anonymous No.14543684]

>>14543614
yeah honestly the best thing to do is start with maths and physics and learn stuff about the world

[Anonymous No.14543742]

>>14543602
I'm just remembering one of my better history of philosophy books, which describes the enlightenment as a spurt of enthusiasm on account of the recent achievements of science. This culture not only failed but that very failure is what inspired the best philosophy and literature of the 19th century, which aimed to recover and compensate.

Reflect on the fact that based on this post, I know you haven't read much, and that you're experimenting with opinions and using the internet as a means to feign authority.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.14543756]

>>14543676
I don’t know enough about it all, sorry. I like the intent of the Enlightenment, so maybe I think it is all “refuted” but by a socialist fix

[Anonymous No.14543892]

>>14543756
their positive theory of progress was refuted empirically by two imperialistic works and postmodernism. their materialism was refuted by Engels. their scientism was refuted by quantum mechanics. there was also normative part of the Enlightenment project - ethical (developed by Kant, refuted by Nietzsche) and economic (developed by Smith, refuted by Marx). so what exactly is the intent of Enlightenment that you like so much?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.14543953]

>>14543892
I’ve just been seeing it as an extension is my problem. Never took any classes on it.