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Michael Chabon goes on a media frenzy:

Chabon on Obama's speech concerning the Arizona shooting
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/tears-and-rain/69545/

Chabon on censoring Mark Twain
http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2011/01/the-unspeakable-in-its-jammies/69369/

Chabon on Hip-hop and its influence in his life
http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2011/01/backspin-or-how-hip-hop-returned-to-my-life/69292
/

Chabon on his home town of Berkeley, CA
http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2011/01/thats-why-i-came/69213/

>> No.1453730

God dammit don't post four Chabon articles I gotta get to sleep

Have you no decency? For god's sake, man. DON'T DO THiS TO ME!

>> No.1453913

Does he have a blog or something? Why has he written so many articles this month?

>> No.1453915

>>1453913
The correct answer is:

A) Because you touch yourself at night.

We'll be back after the break-

>> No.1453917

LOLZ PUBLIC ENEMY CHANGED MY LIFE IM MICHAEL CHABON AND I KNOW HIP HOP.

>> No.1453932

Cheers OP

>> No.1453934

How do you guys feel about his Twain article?

On first reading I felt like he gets out of it a bit too quickly, but the more I think about it the more I see the criticism.

Removing the word from the text eliminates the need to discuss usage (presumably in the classroom). I feel like a teacher and a group of students can self-edit if they so choose, but the discussion that surrounds that kind of decision making is what makes controversial books like this so important. You can't smooth over the wrinkles when the wrinkles are what makes it important.

>> No.1453940

Michael Chabon looks like the result of an unforgettable evening between Ben Stiller and Prince.

>> No.1454568

>>1453940
Cannot unsee. Also fuck this guy.

>> No.1454576

That Michael Chabon looks kinda gay. I only read manly writers such a Hemmingway.

>> No.1454619

>>1454576
oh the irony

>> No.1454629

Is that the guy from Psych?

>> No.1454645

>>1453940

The night was also probably unforgivable.

>> No.1454689

>>1453940
Oh my god, will never unsee

>> No.1454691

Who is this guy and why should I care

>> No.1454692

>>1454691
READ U SOME CONTEMPORARY LITERARY FICTION

>> No.1454706

In school the controversy of what language is used isnt important. In reality yes also there is nothing stopping you buying an uncensored copy

>> No.1454715

>>1454706
yeah, sadly i don't know if it's even possible for a teacher today to have that discussion without someone telling their parents and the parents going all apeshit and the teacher losing his/her job.

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>>1454691
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is one of the best contemporary fiction novels I've ever read in my life. Read it. Go. Now.

>> No.1454723

>>1454691
This guy is a hack writer and you shouldn't care.

>> No.1454731

>>1454723
>Look at me! Look at me! I'm contrary! That means I'm smart!
Explain to me what books he ripped off, or admit you don't use the term "hack" properly. A hack writer is someone who uses others' works to make their own look better, i.e. they "hack" up other people's efforts, slap them together, and call it their own.

>> No.1454733

>>1454715
Thats why I hate american school pupild and soccermoms/over protective christ fags

>> No.1454738

>>1454731

hack
2   [hak]
–noun
1.
a person, as an artist or writer, who exploits, for money, his or her creative ability or training in the production of dull, unimaginative, and trite work; one who produces banal and mediocre work in the hope of gaining commercial success in the arts: As a painter, he was little more than a hack.
2.
a professional who renounces or surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward in the performance of a task normally thought of as involving a strong personal commitment: a political hack.
3.
a writer who works on the staff of a publisher at a dull or routine task; someone who works as a literary drudge: He was one among the many hacks on Grub Street.

>> No.1454739

>>1454731

hack2    
[hak] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person, as an artist or writer, who exploits, for money, his or her creative ability or training in the production of dull, unimaginative, and trite work; one who produces banal and mediocre work in the hope of gaining commercial success in the arts: As a painter, he was little more than a hack.
--Dictionary.com

Consider yourself an enormous moron.

>> No.1454745

>>1454731
Goddamn it, every tripfag on this board is a fucking imbecile.

>> No.1454750

>>1454731
This guy is a hack though. I only read the Obama article and immediately I knew.

>> No.1454753

>>1454750
Yep. He's a huge hack.

>> No.1454757

>>1454738
>herp-a-derp I don't know what trite means
Trite (adj): stale, hackneyed.
Gosh, I wonder how stale or hackneyed happens... maybe it happens by using others' efforts...

>> No.1454770

>>1454757
1/10 attempt to salvage your intellect.

>> No.1454785

>>1453913
I think he must just be buds with/blog-sitting for Ta-Nehisi Coates. He has a thing in the new McSweeney's but I think this is just coincidental timing rather than promo: http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/12/michael-chabon-how-to-salvage-a-wrecked-novel/686
65/

>> No.1454782

>>1454770
I don't have an intellect to salvage. That's usually my point when I get into it with you fucking assholes, I get tired of elitist shitheads. We're not all high-brow intelligentsia here. The books I've read of his are not trite, they don't steal shit from anyone, and if he makes money off of them, good for him, we all have to eat.
I rarely have outright negative shit to say about most of the books posted here because I thoroughly enjoy reading and the work people put into storytelling. I'm not some smart-mouthed dipshit reading books like a video-gamer pounds through levels, showing off superiority of skill.
You're a bunch of insecure dick(brain)-waving assholes and it shows because not one of you can critique, you can only criticize. When you offer the former, I'll take the latter seriously.

>> No.1454809

>>1454782

"The door and door frame of 208 do not exhibit signs of forced entry. Landsman covers the knob with his handkerchief and nudges the door open with the toe of his loafer.
'I got a funny feeling,' Tenenboym says as he follows Landsman into the room. 'First time I ever saw the guy. You know the expression "a broken man"?'
Landsman allows that the phrase rings a bell.
'Most of the people it gets applied to don't really deserve it,' Tenenboym says. 'Most men, in my opinion, they have nothing there to break in the first place. But this Lasker. He was like one of those sticks you snap, it lights up. You know? For a few hours. And you can hear broken glass rattling inside of it. I don't know, forget it. It was a funny feeling.'"

Nothing about Chabon's writing shows that it is real or that he's speaking any sort of truth. He's just creating cute, kitchy narratives like slop is made for swine.

You eat it up without thinking "gosh, 'the toe of his loafer' was written down without a thought at all and I eat it up without thinking, likewise."

>> No.1454815

>>1454809

>You eat it up without thinking "gosh, 'the toe of his loafer' was written down without a thought at all and I eat it up without thinking, likewise

Fucking this! Fucking THIS! "the toe of his loafer" is sloppy and terrible. The sentence would be better without the six words. They add nothing, only word count. This is the kind of shit that drives me nuts and allows a lazy reader to skim over the story, not giving a shit about what he's reading. It's the kind of shit you find in Nicholas Sparks novels.

>> No.1454826

>I've been thinking about the president's speech all night and this morning, how something about it left me feeling left out. Obama's presence—physical, moral, emotional—was palpable. It carried the charge of authority, of mastering a moment. You felt that he was acknowledging, reflecting, and accepting the hardness of life, drawing freely and even generously on his own experience of sorrow and on his capacity to imagine the sorrow of others.

Stopped reading here. What a cockfag!

>> No.1454836

>>1454809
That's the best you've got? That's your response? One tiny excerpt, and more criticism... You didn't even go for the part about a broken man (which I would understand, at least as an argument, that it could be seen as trite) you go for the completely irrelevant detail of a detective opening a door with his shoe instead of his hand which he placed on the doorknob.
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is a story that goes into the realities (and myths) of America's popular culture, artistic bereavement and frustrations, and a number of other things.
Not to mention my other point, it's just a good story.
>Nothing about Chabon's writing shows that it is real or that he's speaking any sort of truth.
Who cares?????? I don't read every single novelist I read because they're REVEALING THE TRUTH to me.
"Truth" and "real," are just more of your bullshit terms you use to somehow prove you're LVL 70 TRUTH-SEEKER.

Why would he have to put thought into, "the toe of his loafer"? He nudged the door open with his shoe, and it accurately describes it, not to mention, gives a vague picture of the shoe succinctly. It's realistic because it's easily pictured, and it also moves the plot a hell of a lot faster than "he used his big toe to push open the door with the tip of his brown, plain penny-loafer blah blah blah."
You're an elitist dick. Some of the people in the world read books because they want a storyteller who can divert them, not a soothsayer. There's plenty of room for both.

>> No.1454837

>Chabon writes 4 articles
>Read a few snippets, decide to never read them ever again

and not a single fuck was given

>> No.1454838

where's that TAO LIN. comic when you need it

>> No.1454839

>>1454836
i'm detecting some mad in this post

>> No.1454850

>>1454782
Koroviev##meticulous

also faggot

>> No.1454851
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>>1454838

Here you go, bro.

>> No.1454853

>>1454850
damn Koro, for a minute there i thought you were rolling with the big boys. now you're just another generic tripfag.

>> No.1454857

Alright i admit i got the meaning of some words wrong
i ddin't want to look silly

>> No.1454907

>>1453917
Cool Dad Syndrome

>> No.1454931

testing

>> No.1454932

>>1454850

oh lawd this really is koroviev's trip lololololol

NIGGERS

>> No.1454946

poop

>> No.1454949

OH LAWDY, I SO MAD!

>> No.1454973

>>1454850

How did you find Koroviev's tripcode? Please do this for D&E also.

>> No.1454978

>>1454973

YES! I very much agree with myself here! Crack D&E!

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1454983

I think I'm gonna take a look at some other boards and introduce myself

>> No.1454991

>>1454983
I post in /r9k/ sometimes, and I lurk /sci/. Have fun.

>> No.1454995

>>1454983

I'm off to /v/. See you later /lit/!

>> No.1455075

that arizona memorial actually was billed as a rally around the school and a memorial service in the news media

plus come on the only way u of a tards know how to express emotion is by going WOOOOO

>> No.1455240

I like most of Chabon's novels, but I've never been able to stomach his essays. Anyone else in the same boat?

>> No.1455263

>>1455240
Yeah, I liked Maps & Legends but this stuff and that last book is pretty much exactly like what you would imagine the blog of a rich middle-aged guy from Berkeley with a ridiculous haircut to be like.

>> No.1455916

>>1454836
kviev how could you rep this hard for chabon's okay detective story genre exercise and be so tough on on lethem's okay detective story genre exercise