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[Anonymous No.14527878]

Why did the Romans not contribute much to philosophy compared to the Greeks?

[Anonymous No.14527882]

too busy seeding snow nigger pussy with our big med dicks

[Anonymous No.14527883]

>>14527878
They did. They just wrote it in Greek.

[Anonymous No.14527926]

>>14527882

[Anonymous No.14527954]

Too busy developing actually useful things, like the system of law, sciences, industry, politics, roads and plumbing.

[Anonymous No.14527995]

>>14527878

Because the Romans for the most part took up Greek philosophies. Their main contribution was taking philosophies intended as ways of life and living them.

[Anonymous No.14528210]

>>14527878
They did but it has been lost

[Anonymous No.14528215]

>>14527954
Greeks did all of those as well, maybe stop only reading Roman shit

[Anonymous No.14528227]

Romans were realists and Greeks were idealists. Realists value direct action. Idealists like discussing ideas. Realists are progressive and change their society quickly. Idealists are regressive and prefer traditional forms and aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.14528252]

May as well ask why Sparta didn't produce any worthwhile philosophers. Rome was for the majority of its history either conquering shit, having civil wars, getting BLACKED by Carthage, burning up, enduring savage barbarian attacks or just generally decaying. All worthwhile thinkers and poets were employed by the state and worked tirelessly to produce propaganda.

[Anonymous No.14528262]

>>14528210
This

[Anonymous No.14528285]

>>14527926
Cope, Angloid. Italians have Roman blood.

[Anonymous No.14528308]

>>14528252
>May as well ask why Sparta didn't produce any worthwhile philosophers.
Because the Spartan aristocracy was barely literate and punished wrongthink.

[Anonymous No.14528414]

>>14528308
*beats you in a war*
nothin personnell... malaka

[Anonymous No.14528433]

>>14527878
Based Plotinus ended philosophy

[Anonymous No.14528467]

>>14527878
Racial reasons. Culture is downstream of biology.

[Anonymous No.14528474]

>>14527878
They contributed greatly to the school of Stoicism. Seneca is good, and Meditations is hugely influential.
>>14527995
Also this.

[Anonymous No.14528691]

>>14528308
> the Spartan aristocracy was barely literate

This is not true

[Anonymous No.14528901]

>>14528467
>JANIform
>JANNIE form

[Anonymous No.14529101]

>>14527878
Greeks didn't contribute that much to philosophy, they had Democritus and Epicurus sure, but there wasn't much decent philosophy (this is going to hurt) before Anglos set things straight.

[Anonymous No.14529114]

>>14528467
How do you explain English philosophy being completely different from German philosophy then?

[Anonymous No.14529198]

>>14527878
Rome represented the old age of Greece like how America represents the old age of Europe. Great art and culture is the realm of a burgeoning new civilization, whereas pragmatism and ethics (Stoicism, atheism) are the concerns of a civilization that has reached old age.

[Anonymous No.14529249]

>>14527878
Romans and their language was practical to get shit done. Greeks and their language was abstract to embellish the mind.
From Cicero's dialogue On the Academy
>I send all my friends who have any zeal for philosophy into Greece; in order to draw their precepts from the fountain-head rather than follow little streams.
>Latin is too poor and strict to capture the greatness and abstruseness of the Greek language and thought.
However this is all tongue in cheek b/c Cicero is using Latin, not ancient Greek, to write these philosophical dialogues.

[Anonymous No.14529264]

>>14527878
They were culturally and intellectually bankrupt retards who stole all their culture from the peoples the conquered.

[Anonymous No.14529903]

What do you guys think of Fellini's Satyricon?

[Anonymous No.14529944]

>>14528285
^ gigacope

[Anonymous No.14529970]

Some Romans kinda despised the greek way of life, including their philosophy

[Anonymous No.14530046]

>>14527878
Philosophy requires a very specific political, cultural and economic environment in order to flourish. The two major settings have been:

a) The coastal Aegean region circa 700BC-200AD
b) Western Europe after Copernicus (circa 1550AD)

The default human society is decidedly anti-philosophical.

[Anonymous No.14530053]

greeks were spiritual, romans were materialists. it's like germans and anglos.

[Anonymous No.14530064]

>>14529970
This is the correct answer. The Roman “philosophy” was, to a degree, anti-philosophy. Rome was an imperial cult of action. It’s primary goal was a militaristic world empire unified under the state religion and a sense of spiritual vocation by way of the State. Athens, less so. Philosophy as westerners tend to think of it can only arises out of a specific contextual set of circumstances. It wouldn’t have made sense for citizenry to gather in the forum to discuss deep philosophical concepts in Rome like they did in Greece because those forums were only available to military aristocrats who lived in a culture where it made more sense to be our campaigning or operating heavy industry than to engage in dialectic and when Greek was something of a lingua franca for the educated aristocrats anyway. Despite all of this there is Roman philosophy, but much of it is in Greek and doesn’t concern itself with democratic ideas which we like to think of as philosophy.

[Anonymous No.14530081]

>>14530064
What does Roman philosophy concern itself with?

[Anonymous No.14530093]

>>14529114
it's the norman influence

[Anonymous No.14530111]

>>14529101
The hoomer strikes another one dumb.

[Anonymous No.14530113]

>>14530081
living a good and productive life that benefits society as a whole. Devotion to the general good or betterment, whether it be in the family or the public, was one of its prized virtues. For example, Aeneas leaving the love of his life Dido behind so he can create the Roman empire.
Stoics to be brief.

[Anonymous No.14530119]

>>14527926
The Italian caricature looks an awful lot like a lot of British people.

[Anonymous No.14530127]

>>14530081
Sorry. When I say Roman “philosophy” what I mean is the Roman way of life. It didn’t lend itself to philosophy, or at least our notion of philosophy, to the degree that the Greek, particularly Athenian, way of life did. As far as actual philosophy, there is Roman philosophy encompassing an array of ideas.

[FUCK JANITORS, FUCK JANITORIAL(...) No.14530139]

>>14528467

[Anonymous No.14530166]

>>14527878
read Cato the censor if you want to know

[Anonymous No.14530382]

It's called Christianity

[Anonymous No.14530604]

>>14530081
being gay

[Anonymous No.14531032]

>>14530139
hahaha

[Anonymous No.14531156]

>>14530053
But both germans and anglos are materialist?

[Anonymous No.14531737]

>>14527878
Nietzsche explained that this divide was part of the Apollonian/Dionysian dichotomy.

For brainlets this means that Type A personalty are structured and good at engineering, and type B personalities are good at art and abstract thought.

So good roads and reliable armies in Rome, but little lyric poetry.

And Greeks lived in chaos politically, but great statues and plays.

[Anonymous No.14531744]

>>14527926
Does not look like Roman sculpture at all.

[Anonymous No.14531776]

>>14530127
Good post

[Anonymous No.14532538]

>>14528252
Sparta had lycurgus tho

[Anonymous No.14532542]

>>14527926
augustus had a aquiline nose though