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1451866 No.1451866 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /lit/,
I'm not looking to start a constant /soc/ type thread, but I'm sure most of us are just a pretty small group so it would interesting to see what the majority of /lit/ is like.

>Country:
>Religion:
>Political Stance:
>Favorite Book:
>Favorite Movie:
>Personal Hero:
>Dream Job:

Mine
>Country:USA
>Religion:Agnostic-Atheist
>Political Stance:Libertarian (not a glenn type, a penn jillette type)
>Favorite Book: Ape and Essence
>Favorite Movie:The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
>Personal Hero: Cenk Uygur
>Dream Job: A hobo drinking box wine on a rail car.

>> No.1451872

>>1451866
>I'm not looking to start a constant /soc/ type thread,
>>>/soc/

And yet you started just that.

>> No.1451882
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1451882

>Country: England
>Religion: None (Atheist)
>Political Stance: Labour (Left)
>Favorite Book: Evelyn Waugh - A Handful of Dust
>Favorite Movie: Ferris Bueller's Day Off
>Personal Hero: Denzel Washington (We look very similar too)
>Dream Job: Actor

i think we could have some additional info OP
>Contact Info: anonymousbear@hotmail.co.uk

>> No.1451890

You probably should have made this a little more /lit/-related, OP.

>> No.1451910

>Country: United States
>Religion: Atheist (raised Catholic)
>Political Stance: Moderate leftist, tribal Democrat
>Favorite Book: Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited
>Favorite Movie: Repo Man
>Personal Hero: Shit, I don't know. Sophie Scholl? Hunter S Thompson? I don't think I could choose.
>Dream Job: Starship Commander

>> No.1451924

>Country: USA
>Religion: Deist (Culturally Episcopalian)
>Political Stance: Rationalist, but leaning towards moderate Liberalism
>Favorite Book: Dante's Inferno and The Prophet
>Favorite Movie: Thin Red Line
>Personal Hero: Ulysses S Grant
>Dream Job: Army Officer

>> No.1451925

>Country: UK
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Anarchist
>Favorite Book: Keep the Aspidistra Flying
>Favorite Movie: Dead Man
>Personal Hero: Stewart Lee
>Dream Job: Playwright

>> No.1452000

>Country: Sweden
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Fiscally Liberal and Socially Conservative
>Favorite Book: Suttree
>Favorite Movie: Moon
>Personal Hero: William Woodsworth
>Dream Job: Doctorate research in theoretical linguistics

>> No.1452016

>Country: USA
>Religion: New England
>Political Stance: Left Leaning
>Favorite Book: All the King's Men
>Favorite Movie: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
>Personal Hero: Ben Franklin
>Dream Job: Diplomat

>> No.1452019

>Country: England
>Religion: Athiest
>Political Stance: Socialist
>Favorite Book: 1984
>Favorite Movie: Yojimbo
>Personal Hero: Francis Bacon
>Dream Job: Comic Book Artist

>> No.1452020

>Country: United States
>Religion: Christian. Baptist, with Anglican leanings.
>Political Stance: indifferent
>Favorite Book: A three way tie between David Copperfield by Dickens, Till We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis, and Keep the Aspidistra Flying by George Orwell
>Favorite Movie: Wicker Park
>Personal Hero: I have a lot, but I'd say Lewis, Chesterton, and Dickens are the mains ones. And my father and mother. Fact is, they're better people then I could hope to be.
>Dream Job: honestly, professor of either Victorian or Medieval literature

>> No.1452033

>Country: USA
>Religion: New England
>Political Stance: Left Leaning
>Favorite Book: All the King's Men
>Favorite Movie: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
>Personal Hero: Ben Franklin
>Dream Job: Diplomat

>Religion: New England

ALL HAIL NEW ENGLANDISM!

>> No.1452034

>>1451925

>Personal Hero: Stewart Lee

:3

>> No.1452047

I don't usually respond to these threads, but what the hell...

>Country: Scotland
>Religion: None (strong agnostic -- look it up)
>Political Stance: Disappointed.
>Favorite Book: Not applicable (stupid question).
>Favorite Movie: Not applicable (stupid question), but if you pressed me, "Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo".
>Personal Hero: Not applicable
>Dream Job: The one I'm doing (freelance publishing professional), but with a lot more money.

>> No.1452053

>Country: Unites States
>Religion: Deist
>Political Stance: dead center
>Favorite Book: American Gods
>Favorite Movie: Spirited Away
>Personal Hero: moot
>Dream Job: novelist

>> No.1452055

>>1452016
>>1452033
>>1452047

Favourite movie is coalescing, believe it or not.

Sergio Leone, FTW.

>> No.1452058

>Country: UK
>Religion: Raised Catholic and Orthodox Christian. Probably Pantheist.
>Political Stance: Left leaning and pretty liberal
>Favorite Book: The Idiot
>Favorite Movie: The Visitor
>Personal Hero: Da Vinci
>Dream Job: Architect

>> No.1452064

>United States
>Agnostic
>Moderate Liberal
>Gravity's Rainbow
>There Will Be Blood
>Terrence Mallick
>Writer/Director

>> No.1452065

>>1452034

yeah I do struggle with that question but he is one of them I'm afraid

>> No.1452071

>>1452065

That's cool.

>> No.1452074

>>1452058
Wait, Orthodox AND Catholic?

>> No.1452080

>Country: Usa
>Religion: Atheistic Buddhism
>Political Stance: Anti-Statism
>Favorite Book: The Plague by Camus
>Favorite Movie: The Seven Samurai
>Personal Hero: Albert Camus
>Dream Job: Writer / Journalist

>> No.1452102

I'm doing this. Don't know why.

>Country: AMERICA
>Religion: I'm a fan of it. (It's complicated).
>Political Stance: Liberal
>Favorite Book: The Brothers Karamazov or To the Lighthouse
>Favorite Movie: There Will Be Blood or Lost in Translation
>Personal Hero: Lots. Mostly writers and poets because that's my thing.
>Dream Job: A (successful) novelist

>> No.1452104

>Country: UK
>Religion: atheist
>Political Stance: Labour
>Favorite Book: Count of Monte Cristo
>Favorite Movie: 2001: A Space Odyssey
>Personal Hero: Lance Armstrong
>Dream Job: Photographer

>> No.1452110

>Country:United States of Faggots
>Religion:Agnostic
>Political Stance:MILITANT STALINIST LESBIAN
>Favorite Book:Homage to Catalonia
>Favorite Movie:DogTooth
>Personal Hero:Jared Loughner

too soon?
>Dream Job:

>> No.1452113

>>1451882
bb you look nothing like denzel washington

>> No.1452123

>>1452074
Yup. Every Sunday in church, once a month in Orthodox church when it was held. Baptised Catholic. However, my parents cared so little about religion that I literally had no idea I was Catholic until I was ~10.

>> No.1452140

>>1452113
>>1452113


oreo i look shit tons like him!

>> No.1452153

>Country: United States
>Religion: None (lol'ing at people putting atheist here)
>Political Stance: Economic Right, Civic Left (yes, it works about as well as you think- not at all)
>Favorite Book: Food of the Gods - Wells
>Favorite Movie: I like Pi
>Personal Hero: I don't know... Franz Liszt?
>Dream Job: I have it already

>> No.1452158

>>1452153
You read NYT?

>> No.1452161

>>1452080
>Relgion
>Atheistic Buddhist

>Religion
>Atheist
>Buddhist

Uhh... one cannot just combine these three things. They simply cannot go together.

>> No.1452162

>Country: USA
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Socialist
>Favorite Book: Ender's Game
>Favorite Movie: The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus
>Personal Hero: Hal Jordan....the Green Lantern
>Dream Job: Animatior or Writer

>> No.1452165

>Country: Sweden
>Religion: None whatsoever.
>Political Stance: Socialist
>Favorite Book: The Brother's Lionheart, by Astrid Lindgren.
>Favorite Movie: Ghost in the Shell
>Personal Hero: Bamse
>Dream Job: Writer

>> No.1452167

>>1452158

Not really. Why?

>> No.1452171

>>1452161
You can, stop being so closed minded.

>> No.1452177

>>1452080
>Religion: Atheistic Buddhist

cool, and my Economic Philosophy is Monotheistic Christianity

>> No.1452178

>>1452167
Tends to also be civic left and economic right.

>> No.1452179

>Country: New Zealand
>Religion: Atheist.
>Political Stance: Embarrassingly Ignorant (leaning leftward)
>Favorite Book: Impossible to decide on an all-time favourite. Recently, The Secret History.
>Favorite Movie: I have no idea.
>Personal Hero: Nobody comes to mind.
>Dream Job: University Lecturer/Translator/Editor. Any one of the three would be excellent.

>> No.1452188
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1452188

wathehell

>Country:
México
>Religion:
No one
>Political Stance:
Leftist
>Favorite Book:
2666 by Roberto Bolaño
>Favorite Movie:
Tideland
>Personal Hero:
Bolaño
>Dream Job:
A successful writer

>> No.1452191

>>1452171
If you're a rational minded, earth focused, person..then Buddhism isn't for you.

There isn't a central god(although some sects do have that), but it sure as fuck is not science friendly.
I mean really, can you claim to say that you are 100% rational when you believe in reincarnation?
Buddhists even have their own hell, they call it turning into a hungry ghost.

If you don't believe in this shit then your just a westerner trying to find peace in something he doesn't even understand.
You can't really call yourself a Buddhist if you completely disregard many of its core teachings.

>> No.1452192

>>1452178
Its hard to get where I am.
I just read up news on the computer.

I support education and research and whatever, but I also think we shouldn't use all of our money on it. It's a bad place to be...there needs to be restructuring in our court or bureaucracy to allow more funds. But all this is /new/ talk.

>> No.1452197

>Country: USA
>Religion: Gnostic Christian
>Political Stance: Socialist
>Favorite Book: Moby-Dick
>Favorite Movie: Blade Runner
>Personal Hero: Socrates
>Dream Job: Vice-President, Writer

>> No.1452203

>>1452171
Its just that Atheism is not a religion (rather, lack of a religion).

Buddhism IS a religion (as well as a Philosophical and Ethic system). So an Atheistic Buddhist is a contradiction.

>> No.1452225

>Country:USA
>Religion:Agnostic
>Political Stance:I don't identify with either of two parties in my country
>Favorite Book:Invisible Man Ralph Ellison
>Favorite Movie:Hidden Fortress
>Personal Hero:Rudy Reyes
>Dream Job:Working a foreign correspondent for Foreign Policy magazine

>> No.1452227

>Country
AMERICA
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!1
>Religion
Tough one..I believe in god..people, not much.
I believe if god wants anything of me it is to be good to other people. Everything else is just tradition for the sake of tradition. Which is beautiful in it's own way, but not really all that important in the big picture.
It's what it all is supposed to signify, you see?
>Political stance
Pretty moderate, for the most part. Although I'm sure some would classify me as radically left wing anyway, simply because I believe Reagen was a fucktard who(if there is any justice in the universe) is rotting in hell.
>Favorite book
Tie between Slaughterhouse 5, Life Of Pi, House Of Leaves, and Catch-22
>Favorite movie
Children Of Men.
>Personal hero
Many. Gandhi was a cool guy..so was Jesus, Hunter S Thompson, MLK, Martin Scorsese, William Gibson..an eclectic bunch, to say the least.
>Dream Job
Journalist or director.

>> No.1452240

>Country: Canada
>Religion: Reconstructionist Jewish
>Political Stance: Social democrat
>Favourite Book: Gödel, Escher, Bach
>Favourite Movie: Vertigo
>Personal Hero: Bertrand Russell
>Dream Job: composer

>> No.1452252

>>1452203
No, Atheism is a lack of belief in God/higher power or a firm belief that there is no God/higher power.
Buddhism does not presuppose any higher power, so you can be an Atheistic Buddhist.

>> No.1452261

>Country: Usually Japan.
>Religion: Theist.
>Political Stance: Fiscally conservative, socially liberal.
>Favorite Book: Moby Dick.
>Favorite Movie: Repo Man.
>Personal Hero: David Bowie.
>Dream Job: Cartoonist.

>> No.1452262

>Country:
Spain
>Religion:
Agnostic, raised Catholic, likes the doctrine lacks the faith
>Political Stance:
Conservative
>Favorite Book:
Many. Jorge Luis Borges, Fictions.
>Favorite Movie:
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
>Personal Hero:
King Juan Carlos I
>Dream Job:
Love being an history teacher. Being a mom + part-time teacher.

>> No.1452279

>>1452252
The Eastern definition of religion is the search for transcendence

Is that not Buddhism in a nutshell?

>> No.1452285

>>1452191
How can you be rational when you irrationally choose to be rational?

>> No.1452292

>Country: United States
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Democratic Socialist
>Favorite Book: Gravity's Rainbow
>Favorite Movie: Dr. Strangelove
>Personal Hero: I don't have one
>Dream Job: English Professor

>> No.1452293

>>1452252
I think he means that Buddishm is nontheistic and Atheism is...atheistic. They are not really the same.

>> No.1452295

>>1452279
I guess. So what?

>> No.1452302

>>1452295
So what?
So Buddhism is a religion. It is based largely on mysticism, which is not a philosophical concept in of itself.

>> No.1452304

>>1452279
Yes and no.

All those atheists with a love affair of Buddhism love the part about finding inner peace.
They do tend to ignore all that shit about hungry spirits and souls moving from one body to another and all that...

One of the most repeated storied of Buddha's lifetime is when he is sitting under the tree. Supposedly, some demon sent his daughters to try to distract him.
Keyword "demon".
Buddhism isn't some perfectly rational, worldly thing and it never was.

>> No.1452311

>Country: USA
>Religion: None
>Political Stance: Communist
>Favorite Book: War and Peace
>Favorite Movie: Bicycle Thieves
>Personal Hero: Lenin, Trotsky
>Dream Job: Historian\ Toiler for glory of socialism

>> No.1452312

>Country: Brazil
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Liberal
>Favorite Book: Childhood's End
>Favorite Movie: Can't think of a particular one, perhaps No Country for Old Men
>Personal Hero: Can't think of one
>Dream Job: Bio-researcher

>> No.1452314

>>1452293
There's still no issue with being an Atheist and being a Buddhist.

>> No.1452318

>>1452304
Not all Buddhist religions have Demons. You're generalizing.

>> No.1452320

>>1452314
In order to be both your going to have to bastardize the religion and some of the most important aspects of it, though.
Really, if you can't call yourself a Buddhist while completely ignoring the spiritual aspect of it.
It's like calling yourself an atheistic Christian because you thought Christ was a cool guy.

>> No.1452323

>>1452302
So what's the issue with being an Atheist and a Buddhist in that?

>> No.1452324

>Country: planet self
>Religion: jewish
>Political Stance: Arthur for King!!
>Favorite Book: the man who used the universe
>Favorite Movie: Doctor Who
>Personal Hero:
>Dream Job: lone swordsman during the dark ages

>> No.1452326

>>1452318
That's a story from Buddha's lifetime, and it's repeated pretty much everywhere.
Every Buddhist culture on earth has it's own local variations, this is true.
But I don't think I've ever heard of one that completely disregards things like reincarnation or spirits.

They might approach the same thing differently, but it's still one religion.

>> No.1452329

>>1452318
Well you just said Religions.

But still, it is a very mystical religion. The 'cool' 'indie' idea is to be Buddhist because you are against religion, and to just take out that mystical bits to conform with an atheist ideal.

I don't know you personally, so I won't put you in this category, but still, to deny a vital part of Buddhism is to disrespect it.

>> No.1452330

>>1452320

Atheism means 'no god'. You can be atheist and believe in other weird mystical shit, like reincarnation, or ghosts, or demons, or whatever. As long as it's not a god.

>> No.1452332

>>1452320
First it's not like that at all. Second, some people do do that; some Atheists are Non-theistic Christians. In fact, Dawkins would fit the label on Non-theistic Christian pretty well, with his opinion on having a village reverend.

>> No.1452333

>>1452323

It would be like being Atheist but believing in Heaven, Hell, Spirits, Angels, Demons, and The Commandments.

>> No.1452334

>Country: UK
>Religion: None
>Political Stance: None specific, but Farage is hilarious.. so UKIP
>Favorite Book: Happyslapped By a Jellfish
>Favorite Movie: Pulp Fiction
>Personal Hero: Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam
>Dream Job: Head of Musical Output for the BBC

>> No.1452338

>>1452330
So let me get this straight, you would argue that believing in god is irrational, but believing in spirits, demons, the afterlife, and all that other crap is not?

You can, sure. But it really doesn't make that much sense does it?
I've never met an atheist who acknowledges anything but what he sees in front of him and on TV.
Metaphysics doesn't fit into their worldview. Yes, that is a generalization, but that doesn't mean it's false.
And even if they did it would be massively hypocritical.
You can take a leap of faith on some bullshit with no evidence but not god?
Why?

>> No.1452339

>>1452329
The disrespect is imposing what you, an outsider, thinks is and isn't Buddhist.

>> No.1452341

>>1452332
>>1452332

We're right back to the nitpicking of religious principles instead of the entire religion.

Wait, you could be an Atheist who believes that Jesus died for his father who doesn't actually exist?

>> No.1452342

>>1452332
Dawkins calls himself a "cultural Christian", which is really just honesty on his part because that religion created his culture.

But you sure as fuck won't see him sitting around in church or turning to the bible for guidance.

>> No.1452343

>Country: France
>Religion: Antitheist
>Political Stance: Anarchist
>Favorite Book: "Voyage au bout de la nuit" by L.-F. Céline
>Favorite Movie: The Shining
>Personal Hero: Satan
>Dream Job: Rentier

>> No.1452344

>>1452338
Atheism says nothing of being rational.

>> No.1452348

>>1452344
Then how come you fuckers always go on and on about it?

The word might not, but the people who describe themselves with that word sure as hell do.

>> No.1452349

>Country: USA

>Religion: None

>Political Stance: Moderate

>Favorite Book: The Mysteries of Udolpho

>Favorite Movie: Blue Velvet

>Personal Hero: Sir Richard Burton

>Dream Job: Diplomat, Archaeologist, Private Investigator or Professor

>> No.1452351

>>1452339

I'm not Muslim, but I can have an appreciation for it and an understanding of it, yes?

>> No.1452352

>>1452348
>Atheists

>Talk about being atheists

Umm, no, I don't think so. The only people who really make a big deal out of atheism (on one side or the other) are doubting Christfags who think they might not believe in god anymore.

>> No.1452354

>>1452339
Most/many forms of buddhism have something akin to a gods, either prebuddhist gods incorporated in (Tibetan and some others) or the Bodhisattvas (the ultimate example would be pure land) which are essentially gods. While an atheist Buddhist isn't completely inconsistent, it is a little odd, especially when you consider the importance of things like samsara, which is an odd sort of thing to accept without some higher power.

>> No.1452360

>>1452354
Well just because you believe in a higher power doesn't mean it has to be personified as a god or really anything that created the universe or dictates peoples' lives. It could just as easily be a series of events triggered by other events.

>> No.1452361

>>1452352
>Umm, no, I don't think so. The only people who really make a big deal out of atheism (on one side or the other) are doubting Christfags who think they might not believe in god anymore.

This is, without a doubt, the stupidest thing I have read all day.
And I've been reading the comments on youtube.

Atheists make themselves out to be a big deal. Not all, mind you. But the minority is loud enough to get media coverage and piss off fundamentalists everywhere.
I think that fact speaks for itself. I mean really, how many Christians do you think actually bought and read The God Delusion?

>> No.1452371

>>1452342
>>1452342
1. He wants something like a village reverend to remain, he has said so in interviews
2. Being culturally Christian means you world view is affected by the teachings of Christ. He will necessarily turn to them one way or another.
>>1452326
>>1452329
>>1452333
>>1452341
Lotta people here taking their knowledge of the Christian religion, with it's well defined hierarchies, and imposing it on other religions. Buddhism is more like Islam in this respect, so trying to generalize what they all believe rarely works.

>> No.1452377

>>1452371
Buddhists all believe variations of the same thing.
This is fact.

>> No.1452382

>Country: United States of America
>Religion: Christian
>Political Stance: Republican
>Favorite Book: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
>Favorite Movie: The Boondock Saints
>Personal Hero: Me
>Dream Job: Realistically a software engineer, What I'd Like to Do is a movie/book/art critic.

>> No.1452383

>>1452360

Now you are changing the religion to not include gods. I see now that maybe that is what you'd call 'Atheistic Buddhism', but it still is not a valid ideal anymore than being an Atheistic Christian or Atheistic Muslim.

>> No.1452388

>>1452354
Samsara can easily be accepted without any recourse to a higher power.

>> No.1452393

>>1452371
Muslims may have different sects, as does Buddhism, but so does Christianity.

I don't think there are any Muslim or Christian sects that don't believe in a God.

>> No.1452406

>>1452388
Possibly, but I don't see any Atheists making pilgrimages, offerings, or chants.

>> No.1452411

>>1452377
>Finding a Christian viewpoint
Well, we can look at what the Pope says, look at some of the Archbishops, some other church leaders, all with an underlying western theological framework. In
>Finding a Buddhist viewpoint
Nope. I mean, you can go ask the leaders, but there are even more than the Islamic clerics, and less easy to follow, Western-style theology.

>> No.1452414

>>1452406
But neither do all Christians?

>> No.1452418

>>1452371
You do realize the breadth of Christianity right? The oldest schism between east and west. There is a big difference between the western catholic church and the orthodox churches. When you add in post reformation and modern evangelical movements. Not to mention Mormonism, which is church with a massive change in doctrine or the Mennonite/Amish, or Santeria and its use of the Catholic saints.

>> No.1452419

>>1452393
Christianity has a vastly different organisation on the whole to the other two.

>> No.1452424

>>1452360

Please 'enlighten' me (pardon that horrid pun) on the Devas then, good sir.

>> No.1452426

And there goes the subject.

>> No.1452428

>>1452418
Totally aware of those things, yes, and it doesn't change or challenge my argument one iota. In fact, the Orthodox churches tend to have a large number of Atheist followers; look at the former communist countries. Most Russians and Serbs will ouright say they are Orthodox, and many do not believe in God.

>> No.1452429

>>1452411
>all with an underlying western theological framework.
That's because you didn't ask the either eastern or oriental or Indian orthodox churches.

>> No.1452431

>Country: ireland
>Religion: athiest/lebowskism
>Political Stance:anarcho-communist
>Favorite Book: lolita
>Favorite Movie: eyes wide shut
>Personal Hero: none
>Dream Job: none

>> No.1452432

>>1452429
That actually doesn't matter so much.

>> No.1452434

>>1452419

Not really. Sufi, Shi'a, Sunni; Catholic, Orthodox; Mahayana, Theravada - these are all just different roads to the same thing.

Oh, and Buddhism is not closer organization wise to Islam than Christianity - many sects of Islams came about due to disagreements about Muhammad's heirs and the Caliphs. I don't think Buddhists cared about these 'housekeeping' things.

>> No.1452438

>>1452428
Asking the oppressed Russian Nationals anything will get you nowhere. Of course the state 'religion/philosophy' was nontheism/atheism, but surely you do not expect someone to totally drop their faith, do you?

>> No.1452439

>Country: United States of America
>Religion: Roman Catholic
>Political Stance: Democratic socialist
>Favorite Book: Hunger (Knut Hamsun)
>Favorite Movie: La Belle et la Bete
>Personal Hero: Not sure.
>Dream Job: Successful journalist or chef.

>> No.1452440

>Country: USA
>Religion: agnostic raised catholic
>Political Stance: socialist
>Favorite Book: Love in the Time of Cholera
>Favorite Movie: Hariet the Spy :3
>Personal Hero: Queen Elizabeth I ? idk..
>Dream Job: I really have no clue..

>> No.1452441

>Country: USA
>Religion: Deist
>Political Stance: Libertarian (not the Beck version)
>Favorite Book: Lamb
>Favorite Movie: 8 1/2
>Personal Hero: Jefferson
>Dream Job: Writer and Director and/or Professor

>> No.1452445

>>1452424
>'enlighten' ... me on

lol I just got this

>> No.1452449

>>1452434
This is true. All the talk about the Rightly Guided Caliphs and Muhammad's Daughter- there is no parallel in Buddhism. Therefore, to call there secular system similar erroneous.

>> No.1452450

>>1452434
That's an illusion of similarity.

>> No.1452453

>>1452434
Many buddhists care about those housekeeping things, have you seen how much time they spend on rules and codes of conduct for monks? Or how much attention was paid to the succession of the buddha and different patriarchs?

>> No.1452454

>>1452450

Yes or no- are they all trying to achieve a higher sense of being? An 'enlightenment', if you will.

>> No.1452455

America
Agnostic Humanist
Classical liberal
Gravity's Rainbow
Eraserhead
I dunno. Not a big fan of other people.
Head programmer for some big software corporation. Besides Apple.

>> No.1452458

>>1452453
Ok, that is true. Still, we have somehow gotten off the religion thing.

>> No.1452470

>>1452434
well apparently the Jews, Hindus and Zoroastrians can just go fuck themselves.

>> No.1452479

USA
"don't be an asshole"
leftist
the amazing adventures of kavalier and clay
fantasia
jk rowling
archivist for national geographic/"explorer"

>> No.1452481

>>1452470
Just because those were the three I described doesn't mean it doesn't apply to all.

I really didn't want to put every Hindu God or Goddess on there.

>> No.1452486

>>1452438
The same can be said of Ireland though. Chris Patten talked about, when he was on the Independent Commission on Policing for N. Ireland, there was talk of Catholic and Protestant kneecappings, which at first he didn't understand. This difference of course has nothing to do with whether they believe in transubstantiation or not, or anything like that. It's in a sense easier to think of it as tribal; that being Catholic was part of a collective identity. In fact, you'll find everywhere people who are Christian, but have no belief in a higher power or God, because being religious often has little to do with belief.

>> No.1452495

>>1452486

Isn't a belief in God sorta important in Christianity?

>> No.1452507

>>1452495
It's about as important as a belief in Democracy in the West/the US.

>> No.1452510

>>1452495
Depends.

Christianity could also just be the philosophical beliefs, not necessarily the religious ones.

>> No.1452516

>>1452507

Well, Democracy is not based on the idea that Plato's son died for our sins.

>> No.1452533

>>1452516
You've barely missed the point. We don't practice Democracy as the ancient Greeks would have known it. In fact, we don't even practice Democracy as we know it. In the US everyone knows it comes down to two candidates from wealthy backgrounds, even though it shouldn't at all. There's also always problems with vote counts. There's just a fantasy of Democracy, no actual Democracy.

>> No.1452534

>>1452516
Plato's mentor that died for our rights.

>> No.1452546

>>1452510

That's what I do. I guess I should start calling my self an Agnostic Catholic. I avoid anything liturgical, but I still pray in private - works as some kind of neuro-linguistic programming exercise - and in regards to doctrine, ethical behaviour and missionary activity, my commitment to the Church is as large as ever. Actually, I think I embrace Catholicism to a much larger extent than most Catholics I know.

>> No.1452548

>>1452533
It's called a republic. The US has never been a democracy, nor was it ever supposed to be one.

>> No.1452560

>>1452548
You are right, but in a seriously retarded way. You've totally explained why every contemporary American political leader and commentator goes on and on about democracy, and why they want to bring democracy to the middle east etc etc.

You're missing the forest for the trees somewhat bro.

>> No.1452564

>Country: US
>Religion: None
>Political Stance: Anarcho-capitalist
>Favorite Book: The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
>Favorite Movie: La Dolce Vita
>Personal Hero: None
>Dream Job: Grand Impregnator

>> No.1452584

>Country: USA
>Religion: Neoplatonism/Gnostic Luciferian
>Political Stance: Marxist-Leninist
>Favorite Book: Liber AL vel Legis
>Favorite Movie: Apocalypse Now
>Personal Hero: Nikola Tesla
>Dream Job: Chairman of the Federal Reserve

>> No.1452601

>Country: USA
>Religion: Agnostic, I go to church every sunday though, play mandolin in the choir.
>Political Stance: Democratic socialist
>Favorite Book: Tough one, either The Plague by Albert Camus or The Sound and the Fury by Faulkner.
>Favorite Movie: Eraserhead
>Personal Hero: Anderson Cooper
>Dream Job: Conflict reporter

>> No.1452602

>>1452548

Both "republic" and "democracy" are incredibly vague terms. At the most basic level, being a "republic" simply means that there exists a scheme of representation through which the population influences politics, which, yes, can be through a democratic method. A constitutional direct democracy is, by definition, a republic.

>> No.1452610

>Country: Canada
>Religion: Atheist (though I do believe in religion's benefits and have a lot of respect for religious patrimonial)
>Political Stance: Socialist
>Favorite Book: The Brothers Karamazov
>Favorite Movie: Band of Brothers (I know not a movie but well...)
>Personal Hero: Mozart and/or Bach and/or Beethoven and/or Mahler and/or Dostoevsky and/or Jonathan Littell
>Dream Job: Writer

>> No.1452614

>>1452602
Representative democracy, not direct democracy. Direct democracy just means a majority can actually force anything on any other group. No elected officials there.

>> No.1452624

>>1452614

>implying that doesn't happen anyway

How is 51% electing a bad leader any better than 51% leading badly?

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1452629

>>1452584

>Luciferian
>Marxist

>> No.1452630

>>1452624
Because the leader can't actually do anything. Congress and the senate exist to keep that from happening, and I do believe it works.

>> No.1452637

>>1452630

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and generally didn't give a fuck about what Southern lawmakers and congressman thought. What if Lincoln had been an equally popular Nazi? He would have done the same thing -- enacted martial law, suspended the courts, and taken matters into his own hands. Moreover, 51% of the population, depending on district proportioning and such, is enough to also vote for enough bad congressman.

>> No.1452641

>>1452630
but those are elected bodies, and they rule through majority

>> No.1452643

>>1452602

One could say that a democracy is the usage of an elective process to choose public policies/government officials; while a republic implies that the authority of the said government is limited (maybe we should use expressions such as "modern republic", "liberal republic" or "constitutional republic" here).

I personally prefer this analytical grid. I agree that multiple meanings can be attributed to both words.

>> No.1452663

>>1452643
While I would like that for "practical" political talk, it overlooks what is meant by democracy in general (like in a political speech, for example).

>> No.1452665

>Country: USA
>Religion: 95% aithiest 5% agnostic (WHERE THE FUCK DID CELLS COME FROM!!!)
>Political Stance: Socially liberal, economically moderate
>Favorite Book: Brothers Karamozov and Dorian Grey
>Favorite Movie: Dr. Strangelove
>Personal Hero:Lincoln and Kamina (Gurren Lagann)
>Dream Job: Environmental scientist in amazon rain forest

>> No.1452666

>Country: Venezuela
>Religion: No religion, I'm an atheist
>Political Stance: Idealistic individualist anarchist. In real life, I'm a technocrat
>Favorite Book: El Túnel by Ernesto Sábato
>Favorite Movie: Le Samurai
>Personal Hero: Albert Camus
>Dream Job: prollific psychologist/writer/philosopher

>> No.1452703

>>1452663

Correct, the current usage of the word democracy is different, much more expanded than the definition I used there. And by current I mean modern, it's been this way for centuries now. Which is a shame, in my opinion. Created confusion.

I see I were the only person self-ID as a conservative in the entire thread, so I'm probably one of the few here that sees the dangers in the fact that today electing politicians and stuff like separation of powers or the protection of basic individual freedoms are seen as inextricably bounded up. Oh well..

>> No.1452709

>>1452703

You're not a conservative, you're a 19th century liberal dressed up in cultural conservatism.

I'm an actual conservative. A Catholic/German Theocrat.

>> No.1452713

Country: Argentina
Religion: Not sure, I'm working on it
Political Stance: Social Democrat
Favorite Book: Not sure, maybe the Little Prince
Favorite Movie: None
Personal Hero: None
Dream Job: pretty much anything, from writer to politician to physicist to cook.

>> No.1452722

>>1452665

Cells?

You mean like, blood cells/brain cells/skin cells etc.?

If that's your only question, a little research will clear that agnosticism right up.

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1452760

>Country:US
>Religion: Atheist/searching
>Political Stance:None
>Favorite Book: A Clockwork Orange
>Favorite Movie: varies. Inception (inb4 fag, unoriginalfag, 2deepforu, etc)
>Personal Hero: uhh Jack Nicholson
>Dream Job: Powerball winner

>> No.1452772

>Atheistic Interpretation of Samsara
When one dies, the materials that make up their body is returned to the earth. Due in part to their former body, plants grow. They are "in" these plants. Animals eat these plants in order to live. These animals die, and their bodies are returned to the earth.
In a similar token, the earth will "die" at some point in the future, and the materials which once made it up will be returned to the universe at large.

>Atheistic Interpretation of Karma
I once read the doctrine of Karma described as the law of consequences, as well as "the seeds of our future". Every action has a reaction. Every thing we do impacts the world around us in ways we can't predict, even if this reaction is very subtle. Consequently, the world we have affected affects us.
There's also possibly the idea of a good deed being its own reward. That is, the knowledge of preforming a noble act may serve to elate the person preform this act, in a "Karmic" way.

True, these interpretations do not link Karma and Samsara in the way they are directly related in Buddhist doctrine. However, the Buddha himself told his students to not believe anything unless it agreed with their own sense, even if he himself had taught it.
So, it seems to me the Buddha would have encouraged individuals to pursue their own understanding, and interpretation, of the Dharma.

>> No.1452781

>>1452709

I tend to appreciate the importance of traditionalism and the limits of rationalism more than classic liberals. I have some vague sympathies for the Carlismo. You are mostly correct though. I'm a daughter of Burke, not De Maistre.

Not sure what is a Catholic German Theocrat? Carl Schmitt's theologically informed totalitarianism?

>> No.1452797

>Country: United States of America
>Religion: Christian mystic
>Political Stance: Any man who adheres to only one political view is a bigot and a fool.
>Favorite Book: We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
>Favorite Movie: Galaxy Quest
>Personal Hero: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
>Dream Job: Something that brings fulfillment and can be appreciated for doing.

>> No.1452812
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1452812

>Country: USA
>Religion: Atheist (in the way that Lovecraft considered himself an atheist)
>Political Stance: Libertarian (like OP's)
>Favorite Book: The Rules of Attraction by Bret Easton Ellis
>Favorite Movie: Memento
>Personal Hero:
>Dream Job: Psychology/Philosophy Writer (ala Sagan, Freud, Dawkins)

>> No.1452822

>Country: United States (Michigan)
>Religion: meh
>Political Stance: Libertarian
>Favorite Book: Breakfast of Champions/Stranger in a Strange Land
>Favorite Movie: Unforgiven
>Personal Hero: No thanks
>Dream Job: Writer

>> No.1452826

>>1452812
oops, forgot my personal hero.

Bill Hicks.

>> No.1452883

USA
Most assuredly a non orthodox muslim
undecided
Neuromancer
Groundhog Day/Inception
Jack Kerouac
Writer

>> No.1452909
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1452909

>Country: México
>Religion: None
>Political Stance: None
>Favorite Book: As I Lay Dying
>Favorite Movie: Zerkalo
>Personal Hero: Tarkovsky
>Dream Job: Pretentious filmmaker

>> No.1452951

Country: México
Religion: none (Agnostic)
Political Stance: Communist
Favorite Book: 1984
Favorite Movie: Full Metal Jacket
Personal Hero: Stanley Kubrick
Dream Job: Filmmaker/Photojournalist

>> No.1452958

>Country: USA
>Religion: Christian, Lutheran if you want to be specific.
>Political Stance: Pro-life Libertarian
>Favorite Book: Guards! Guards!
>Favorite Movie: The Patriot
>Personal Hero: James K. Polk
>Dream Job: Nuclear Physicist with some writing on the side.

>> No.1453049

>Country: US
>Religion: None (Atheist leaning Anti-theist)
>Political Stance: Centrist
>Favorite Book: No specific favorite
>Favorite Movie: Brazil
>Personal Hero: Christopher Hitchens/Rick Bombard (English professor)
>Dream Job: Writer

>> No.1453546

>Country: U.S.
>Religion: None
>Political Stance: Way the fuck left, progressive/democrat/socialist/goddamn commie pinko/whatever you want to call it
>Favorite Book: The Metamorphosis
>Favorite Movie: Inland Empire
>Personal Hero: It sounds trite, but my dad.
>Dream Job: Well, eventually, college professor. I'm going to make money as an entrepreneur first, though, then become a professor as a sort of second career.

Sage for >>>/soc/ bullshit.

>> No.1454137

>>1453546
Yet....you....did it.

>> No.1454143

>Country: Norway
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Democratic Socialist
>Favorite Book: The Master and Margarita
>Favorite Movie: I don't bloody know
>Personal Hero: Carl Sagan
>Dream Job: Philosophy teacher

>> No.1454149

>Country: Finland
>Religion: Officially Lutheran. Atheist in heart.
>Political Stance: Yet to be decided.
>Favorite book: Hard one. For entertainment purposes probably A Game of Thrones. Something-to-think purposes 1984.
>Favorite movie: Wall-E
>Personal hero: none
>Dream job: Something which has thinking and society or business in it.

>> No.1454157

>Country: USA
>Religion: Raised Catholic, became Deist
>Political Stance: Moderate
>Favorite Book: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>Favorite Movie: The Prestige
>Personal Hero: Neil Gaiman
>Dream Job: Screenwriter

>> No.1454163

>Country: Australia
>Religion: Atheist
>Political Stance: Left Wing
>Favorite Book: The Trial
>Favorite Movie: Bad Boy Bubby
>Personal Hero: Terence McKenna
>Dream Job: Leader of a Revolt

>> No.1454167 [DELETED] 

>>1452951
I forgot = Apocalypse Now = probably on par with Bad Boy Bubby.

>> No.1454165
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1454165

>Country: United States
>Religion: Agnostic
>Political Stance: Libertarian on social issues, leftish on economics and foreign policy
>Favorite Book: God Bless You, Mr Rosewater by Kurt Vonnegut
>Favorite Movie: Hana-bi (Takeshi Kitano)
>Personal Hero: William Tecumseh Sherman, Ataturk
>Dream Job: Essayist/Politician

>> No.1454168

>>1454163
I forgot = Apocalypse Now = probably on par with Bad Boy Bubby.

>> No.1454194

Country: Czech republic
Religion: Nihilist
Political stance: -
Favourite book: poetry by Egon Bondy
Favourite film: Return of the Prodigal Son
Personal hero: Doug Stanhope
Dream job: -