/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14508123]

Any books that defend the exploitation of the poor by the elites?

Like the monarchy or corporations exploiting peasants or consumers.

I personally don't see a problem with taking free money and labour from morons. I do see a problem with poor people taking free welfare money from everybody else though.

[Anonymous No.14508135]

>>14508123
Pitch: daddyphone. Call your virtual personal assistant daddy and have the benefit of it being your child's first word.

[Anonymous No.14508664]

[Anonymous No.14508679]

>>14508123
>I do see a problem with poor people taking free welfare money from everybody else though
So you are retarted in the end

[Anonymous No.14508686]

>I personally don't see a problem with taking free money and labour from morons.

[Anonymous No.14508710]

You don't need a book for that, that's just called being a neo-liberal "progressive." If you don't like the color blue, you can be a neo-CON instead! Isn't it convenient how they're both the same thing?

Seriously, this is already the default ideology. It's implicit in every faggot rich kid who goes to college to learn how to write hack propaganda journalism telling the plebs they want more immigration and more gay tranny fag shit in their communities, while spending 5-10x more with daddy's credit card on luxury food and lifestyle purchases per week than the average "working class" (read: nowadays, this means poverty line and tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars of jewish debt) person. If you have rich daddy money, just go to college and do whatever you want. Read the New York Review of Books, join the managerial class, and continue being a parasite until this crisis finally comes to a head. At that point, either you get beheaded and your rich father's estate is nationalized, or you win, and we continue sliding into Brazilian neo-feudalism where you live in a condo while all your nigger slaves live in industrial revolution tier conditions.

[Anonymous No.14508744]

>>14508123
any social darwinism works, selfish gene, LaVeyan satanism, torah, talmud, idk rly

[Anonymous No.14508857]

>>14508710
This desu

[Anonymous No.14509158]

>>14508710
/thread

[Anonymous No.14509269]

>>14508679
>>14508686
>nooo the top 1% take all the money while the rest of us do all the work
>yes it's totally fine for people to become NEET while the rest of the nation has to work to support them

[Anonymous No.14509276]

>>14509269
I think we should have a term limit on billionares. After 10 years of being one you are killed in the streets and fed to pigs.

[Anonymous No.14509277]

>>14508710
I'm European. None of this stuff applies. Almost every (developed) nation in Europe has tons of benefits, welfare, minimum wage, free university, free health care.

[Anonymous No.14509282]

>>14508710
This guy fucks

[Anonymous No.14509283]

>>14508744
>selfish gene
You didn't read this book.

>>14509276
>>14508710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0

[Anonymous No.14509296]

>>14509277
time to share the wealth, hans

[Anonymous No.14509301]

>>14508123
>"The poor are being exploited!"
>"N-no... I shouldn't have to give you money just because you're poorer than me. I need that for meeee. Wait until we kill all the billionaires in a revolution that will never happen, poorfag!"
Every time.

[Anonymous No.14509308]

>>14509296
I said developed lmao this is France.

[Anonymous No.14509310]

>>14509296
It's Gare du Nord what do you expect? Also France had an empire just like a lot of other European countries.

[Anonymous No.14509314]

>>14509301
BASED

[Anonymous No.14509384]

>>14509269
>fuck you got mine
How do you distribute the wealth through a capitalistic nation in times of automated industries, where 1% now owns most of the capital?
>>14509277 is the only humane way
aslo why do you seek justification for your egoism lol

[Anonymous No.14509462]

>>14509384
Do you think it's fair that the working class has to work, while a small minority of people live for free?

If not, then you should also think it unfair for the middle class to have to work, while a small minority live on government assistance for free and get free health care and free education.

[Anonymous No.14509471]

>>14509462
To each according to their need, from each according to their ability, so no.

[Anonymous No.14509535]

>>14509471
This causes economic disasters where nobody has any incentive to innovate and the economy stagnates. Plus INEFFICIENCY everywhere. Dude, stop, I read Marx, it's full of fallacies.

[Anonymous No.14509561]

>>14508123
>Any books that defend the exploitation of the poor by the elites?
literally anything from here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Macroeconomics/zgbs/books/2596/

[Anonymous No.14509564]

>>14509462
Make the right incentives for working ppl, also its in good human nature to work on ones wealth and feel usefull.
How it all can be stably achieved is another question though.

[Anonymous No.14509566]

Friendly reminder that the only people who complain about the rich are cowardly propagandists who are manipulating you into using violence they themselves would never have the balls to do. If they are hypocrites about this what else are they lying about?

[Anonymous No.14509575]

>>14509535
Facts and figures on the EU’s position in global markets
The EU is the largest economy in the world. Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largest economy in the world with a GDP per head of €25 000 for its 500 million consumers.
The EU is the world's largest trading block. The EU is the world’s largest trader of manufactured goods and services.
The EU ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments
The EU is the top trading partner for 80 countries. By comparison the US is the top trading partner for a little over 20 countries.
The EU is the most open to developing countries. Fuels excluded, the EU imports more from developing countries than the USA, Canada, Japan and China put together.
The EU benefits from being one of the most open economies in the world and remains committed to free trade.

The average applied tariff for goods imported into the EU is very low. More than 70% of imports enter the EU at zero or reduced tariffs.
The EU’s services markets are highly open and we have arguably the most open investment regime in the world.
The EU has not reacted to the crisis by closing markets. However some the EU’s trading partners have not been so restrained as the EU has highlighted in the Trade and Investment Barriers Report.
In fact the EU has retained its capacity to conclude and implement trade agreements. The recent Free Trade Agreements with South Korea and with Singapore are examples of this and the EU has an ambitious agenda of trade agreements in the pipeline.

[Anonymous No.14509580]

>>14509471
Why wouldnt I just pretend Im low ability if im gonna just get what I need anyway? Whats the incentive? I get to feel like a good boy about helping MUH SOCIETY?

[Anonymous No.14509601]

>>14509296
The French had quite a few colonies; this is them getting their just deserts.

[Anonymous No.14509632]

>>14509580
Milton Friedman made the argument that under stinky bad socialism or communism you don't get to choose, but under capitalism you get to be whatever you want. Now you're making the argument that capitalism at least tells you what you should be because why would anyone ever have a passion for their vocation?

[Anonymous No.14509638]

>>14509632
Not everyone is gonna have a passion for their vocation bro, not in any system. People will end up doing shit they probably dont like that much

[Anonymous No.14509647]

>>14509580
you think you're the first person who thought of this? it's called fraud, and it is detectable

[Anonymous No.14509677]

>>14509580
>Whats the incentive?
Sense of self worth, something to do and helping MUH SOCIETY or death by firing squad. Your choise.

[Anonymous No.14509702]

>i don't see a problem with taking free money from morons
neither do neets

[Anonymous No.14509743]

>>14509647
Of course not, duh. We have no way to predict how much people will truly appreciate their "work" in a socialist future. Im a midwit but midwit work is boring to me. What would midwits do? Is it inherently better or am I still sitting in an office doing whatever for the "community" "le organizing body (totally not a state bro)" id unironically rather just pack grocery bags or whatever low tier work their is since I got what I need anyway and can just read with that free time socialists say theyll give me.

[Anonymous No.14509756]

>>14509561
When you disagree with an entire discipline you have to consider the fact that you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.14509764]

>>14509647
Laughing my fucking ass off at this shit. In the UK you can literally go to the doctors, say you're depressed, and you don't have to work any more. I did for years.

[Anonymous No.14509765]

>>14508123
ego and it's own

[Anonymous No.14509772]

>>14509575
None of those countries are communists.

[Anonymous No.14509786]

Everyone in this thread stays exploited. I’ve never seen such a high concentration of bootlickers in one place

[Anonymous No.14509798]

>>14509786
>bootlicker
You have to go back. This website isn't for NPC-tier cApItAlIsm bAd! dogma.

[Anonymous No.14509801]

>>14509786
Go killem bro, otherwise whining on a forumn aint doin much

[Anonymous No.14509815]

>>14509798
>implying literally everyone in this thread isn’t NPC tier
Guess you just see what you wanna see

[Anonymous No.14509827]

>>14509764
So your problem is not being pushed into workforce cause there's enough goods to go around?

[Anonymous No.14509834]

>>14509815
You think you're woke because you look around you think others are being exploited, without realising you're being exploited too.

[Anonymous No.14509839]

>>14509801
Just stating my opinion my guy

[Anonymous No.14509843]

>>14509827
I'm just saying that you are factually incorrect about fraud being detectable, especially today when everyone can have a mental "illness" that cannot be objectively proved. Plus look at Soviet Russia, everybody tried to cheat the system there.

[Anonymous No.14509844]

>>14509815
>>14509834
the only board that doesnt have this gay exchange is /out/

[Anonymous No.14509851]

>>14508123
Caring about money is cuckdom and culturelessness of the highest order. The state of the world being an indefensible trainwreck is proved by your very worldview.

Apologies for not giving you a rec though. I'm pretty sure the general culture supports your view so any vulgar liberal rhetoric should suffice.

[Anonymous No.14509855]

>>14509601
If this is a punishment it's completely voluntary and self imposed. That's what I find bizarre about Europeans: they're a people willing to punish themselves.

[Anonymous No.14509869]

>>14509834
Never said I was woke. I just said you’re all swallowers

[Anonymous No.14509876]

>>14509277
it's a leif never left the city centre episode

[Anonymous No.14509886]

>>14509855
Its werid, why do ex non white empires not have to do this?

[Anonymous No.14509890]

>>14509855
>>14509886
>invent everything worth inventing
>create the best art, best literature, best philosophy, best science, best laws, best civilization, best everything
>be the best at literally everything
>chill out for a while
>get bored
>conquer basically entire world in the span of a few generations
>draw pictures of yourself standing astride continents
>rename brown people's entire homelands after your fat bitch queen
>import all the good stuff god accidentally put on the continents of lesser peoples, turn them into factories to produce it
>chill out for a while, content to have defeated space and time
>get bored again
>try having some massive planet-spanning internecine wars
>develop ability to destroy entire world because why not
>finally get bored of even that
>need to devise a new way to fuck with inferior races
>decide to invite them into our homes, let them shit all over the walls, condescend to them and patronize them
>even tolerate them becoming whiny and spoiled and feeling entitled to it
>even tolerate their insults and pathetic admonishments that they are entitled to our homes and we don't deserve them
>lift our inferiors onto our shoulders for a goof, the view ruined by the knowledge that they only have it at the sufferance of the giant who is lifting them
>give everything to them when it is precisely not having things handed to you that makes you strong some day, permanently othering them
>remain the eternal Same
>remain kings of the universe
>still run their homelands as slave factories for mass producing baseball hats and tampons

[Anonymous No.14509909]

>Why should I give my money to the poor?
>I earned this and I deserve it
>What do you mean unethical?
T. Bugman Mentality

[Anonymous No.14509910]

>>14509890

[Anonymous No.14509913]

>>14509851
>liberal
This word needs to be banned. What are you even saying? Don't like somebody's views? Librul! Doesn't matter if they are left or right, just call them liberal and move on.

[Anonymous No.14509919]

>>14509890
Semi-based.

[Anonymous No.14509929]

>>14509890
God is there anything the white man cant do?!

[Anonymous No.14509928]

>>14509909
Bugmen are socialists. Don't comment on social issues when you don't even know the basic zeitgeist.

[Anonymous No.14509932]

Hail the overlord!

[Anonymous No.14509934]

>>14509929
Please a woman

[Anonymous No.14509938]

>>14509909
Yes buy my tendies woke tax payer

[Anonymous No.14509950]

>>14509934
Doubt anyone can desu

[Anonymous No.14509951]

>>14509269
The rest of the nation is the 1% so yeah it's fine

[Anonymous No.14509953]

>>14508123
bronze age pervert does that to a degree

[Anonymous No.14510015]

>>14509890
This gave me an erection

[Anonymous No.14510100]

>>14509951
>1% of people pay for the other 99%
Your brain on "the robots will do all the work"-brand of socialism.

[Anonymous No.14510249]

>>14510100
they literally will though

[Anonymous No.14510317]

>>14510249
It's the most cop out argument because even IF somehow this happens, your ideas would still have been wrong for the entirety of human history and you've only been saved due to some freak accident.

[Anonymous No.14510413]

>>14509756
Framing this as a disagreement "with an entire discipline" is completely wrong. I'm pretty sure I would agree with them on tons of their conclusions, or things like purely mathematical derivations from some assumed theoretical models, or the fact that those models are not entirely divorced from reality even if they might omit the most important aspects of it etc.
And there's the fact that since we're talking about a social science, this is not the same as having deep disagreement with physics or mathematics.

[Anonymous No.14510422]

>>14509929
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.14510465]

>>14510317
>your ideas
you don't know my ideas breh

[Anonymous No.14510479]

>>14510413
I am honestly wondering why you linked to a list of entry-level macroeconomics textbooks then. What exactly is the problem? Yes economics isn't very rigorous, but neither is psychology, yet you seem to think that economics specifically has some skew towards some political ideology?

[Anonymous No.14510494]

>>14509890
this is a massive cope

[Anonymous No.14510622]

>>14509772
But most of them provide free healthcare etc that would according to your logic encourage neet behaviour

[Anonymous No.14510637]

>>14508123
That kid should’ve had his first word ages ago
He’s likely near-autistically non communicative due to his parents babying and Alexa is simply the only person in the house who won’t respond unless spoken to properly
Sad desu

[Anonymous No.14510956]

>>14510479
It was the most prominent example.

[Anonymous No.14511013]

>>14508123
>I personally don't see a problem with taking free money and labour from morons. I do see a problem with poor people taking free welfare money from everybody else though.
lmao enjoy the job market when you graduate fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.14511419]

>>14508710
>neo-liberal
it would be nice if western society could actually return to free market capitalism for a change and then go from there
the reason neo liberal markets form is because of this >>14509277

>>14509855
leaders can't have their empires over seas anymore so they formed an empire from within and unironically the marxists who hate imperalism and nationalism so much helped create this

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>>14509913
capitalism is immanently liberal

[Anonymous No.14511457]

>>14509638
There's a big gap between "not everyone" and "no one". The point I was making was that in the 70s the libertarians outright believed that creative passion was the norm. You even had people wailing about undesirable jobs being paid better than prestigious/academic jobs in communist Cuba (a trash collector with a degree!?). It's most obvious since the 90s, but the assumption now is that no one wants to do anything and would rather rot into the ground if not for relatively minor wage incentives, and that's a very gen x and boomer way of thinking (don't believe me, watch shit like Rent).

[Anonymous No.14511490]

>>14508123
Patriarcha by Robert Filmer.
>https://www.constitution.org/eng/patriarcha.htm

[Anonymous No.14512266]

>>14509277
Doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous No.14512300]

>>14508123
if you count slaves as the poor

[Anonymous No.14512464]

>>14508123
Nietzsche's On the genealogy of morals

[Anonymous No.14512485]

>>14509471
I thought /lit/ was a retard-free zone.

[Anonymous No.14513595]

>>14511013
I've already graduated and working for myself pleb. Zero arguments.

[Anonymous No.14513616]

>>14509601
Colonization wasn't profitable, that's why it stopped.

[Anonymous No.14513626]

>>14513616
It was, the French just didn't know how to run them. They rinsed their colonies instead of trying to develop them first.

[Anonymous No.14514090]

>>14512485
It was before you got here.