/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14503052]

>Right wing ideology has an incoherent worldview and that's why it's not studied in academia.
Is he right /lit/, does the Right wing lack any scholarly credibility compared to Leftism?

(Ignore the clear fact that Christianity is historically part of Right wing worldview, and that it is the most heavily studied topic in all of academic, just for the sake of this thread)

[Anonymous No.14503063]

>>14503052
because it IS coherent it is not studied. nothing 'solved' is interesting to academics.

[Anonymous No.14503070]

It’s incoherent from the brainlet’s perspective.

[Anonymous No.14503071]

>>14503052
It's the other way around. Academia is so dogmatically liberal that it rejects any other worldview, especially opposite ones.

[Anonymous No.14503075]

>>14503052
Because right wing views are already studied in the form of economics and theology.

[Anonymous No.14503085]

>>14503052
Who is Nozick? Who is Roger Scruton? Who is Hayek? Who is Carl Schmitt? Who is Leo Strauss? Who is Michael Oakeshott? Who is Heidegger

[Anonymous No.14503090]

>>14503052
Funny how it was studied in the past, but stopped recently, isn't it?
Almost as if the far left has completely dominated universities to the point that they now have safe spaces, because students are unable to deal with real life.

[Anonymous No.14503091]

>I dont like it so its incoherent
>ivory tower niggers posturing equals coherence
>implying a "coherent worldview" exists at all

[Anonymous No.14503093]

>>14503052
Forget to add Who is Destiny

[Anonymous No.14503101]

>>14503052
>Christianity is historically part of Right wing worldview,

[Anonymous No.14503106]

>>14503052
>illiterate youtube grifter purporting to know anything about academia

[Anonymous No.14503107]

Fascist political/economic theory does not really exist. Fascist "theory" is a grotesque mix of spiritual poems, occult "sciences", perversions of leftist thought, romanticism, weird philosophy and more.
It is exceptionally hard to read up on what different fascist groups actually want to accomplish and precisely how their new government will function, the most you're likely to get is some poorly written manifesto talking about "natural orders" and muh race and other spooks. Fascists today are not theoretically coherent because their views are mainly absorbed from infographics on a certain board and weird videos on youtube.

[Anonymous No.14503110]

>>14503107
>and muh race and other spooks.
Race is biology. Not spooks.

[Anonymous No.14503111]

>>14503101
>I don't know where the labels Left and Right comes from

[Anonymous No.14503113]

>>14503106
He knows a lot of statistics

[Anonymous No.14503114]

>>14503107
>who is georges sorel

[Anonymous No.14503119]

>>14503114
A revolutionary syndicalist

[Anonymous No.14503125]

>>14503071
>>14503090
This.
>>14503075
But they aren’t studied in the form of culture or a modernist perspective. Universities punish you for not wanting to radically change the country.

I found these books really helpful for discussion on this topic if anyone is interested.

Barzun, Jacques. From Dawn to Decadence: 1500 to the Present: 500 Years of Western Cultural Life.

Brooks, Arthur C. Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism—America’s Charity Divide—Who Gives, Who Doesn’t, and Why it Matters.

Coulter, Ann. Godless: The Church of Liberalism.
Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America.

Dalrymple, Theodore. In Praise of Prejudice: The Necessity of Preconceived Ideas.
The New Vichy Syndrome: Why European Intellectuals Surrender to Barbarism.

Life at the Bottom: The Worldview that Makes the Underclass. Dalrymple's key insight in Life at the Bottom is that long-term poverty is caused not by economics but by a dysfunctional set of values, one that is continually reinforced by an elite culture searching for victims. This culture persuades those at the bottom that they have no responsibility for their actions and are not the molders of their own lives.

Davis, Mark. Upside Down: How the Left Turned Right into Wrong, Truth into Lies, and Good into Bad.

DiLorenzo, Thomas. How Capitalism Saved America: The Untold History of Our Country, From the Pilgrims to the Present.
The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War.

Ferguson, Niall. The West and the Rest

[Anonymous No.14503127]

>>14503107
literally all modern economies are mixed economies aka fascist
cry more

[Anonymous No.14503134]

Is biology considered right wing? Cuz biology says that there are differences between males and females in personality traits and interests.

[Anonymous No.14503135]

>>14503090
Try mentioning Nietszche(or any other western philosopher for that matter) amongst your local LGBTQIA leftist cattle. You will see their little stupid cow like eyes light up with panic. They will invariably start screeching as they always do. ''Isn't he sexist?'' ''aren't you being dangerously eurocentric?''(not that they read any ''nonwestern'' philosopher either, or anything that would conflict with the Disney Google Pepsico global HR approved slave morality worldview.)

[Anonymous No.14503137]

>>14503127
>mixed economies aka fascist
absolute state of you lad

[Anonymous No.14503145]

>>14503135
When did this last happen to you? Oh, you never talk to people in real life?

[Anonymous No.14503172]

>>14503135
Forget Nietszche, people think Sigmund Freud is shit because he was sexist.

[Anonymous No.14503178]

>>14503137
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.14503194]

>>14503107
race is a fact, leftists won't do anything but talk about race, they are essentially a religion based around sodomy and white racial guilt. Even noted leftists like le french aids man himself, monsieur michel foucault, talked at length HBD and biopolitics. If you read his classic book of lectures ''society must be defended'' you will immediately understand how things like big data, social media, genetics irrevocably lead to an unprecedented resurgence of racial consciousness. right vs left is essentially eugenics vs dysgenics, leftists want to grind humanity down into a shapeless mass of pink haired consumer sludge, rightists want to create the overman.

>Proposed symbol of the coming Fascist movement: think the nazi flag but with a normal distribution instead of a swastika over the round white field.

[Anonymous No.14503201]

>>14503052
Vaush admittedly doesn't read he is not /lit/

[Anonymous No.14503204]

>>14503194
>rightists want to create the overman
They're doing a very poor job, then.

[Anonymous No.14503217]

>>14503194
the leftism understander has logged on

[Anonymous No.14503225]

>>14503204
that post is incoherent but if you think some pederast horsecock fetishist has anything of value to say by way of political commentary then that sort of response is what you deserve desu

[Anonymous No.14503227]

Why did lefties fall so hard for youtube grifting? Was it just reaction to the SJW BTFO youtube phase?

[Anonymous No.14503242]

>>14503225
99.99% percent of rightoids are quite obviously untermensch and the rest are just decent people. No übermensch to be found.

[Anonymous No.14503250]

>>14503242
Duh not like the left does either. Its a stupid concept

[Anonymous No.14503255]

>>14503242
and? go to /pol/ if you want to compare your ideology dicklets

[Anonymous No.14503267]

>>14503217
I understand leftism better than 99.99% of leftists. If anything, ''Anti idpol'' leftists and heterodox marxists are even more delusional than the blue hair sjws in your local cringe compilation.

[Anonymous No.14503283]

>>14503255
>>14503250
I was talking to the faggot who brought up muh overman, so move aside ladies.

[Anonymous No.14503291]

>>14503267
>I understand leftism better than 99.99% of leftists

[Anonymous No.14503304]

>>14503052
>overweight underachieving leftist pontificates from his ivory tower
>people pay him
>they listen to this Untermensch tell them that being a sodomite and abject weakling is okay

Clown World is a strange ride

[Anonymous No.14503313]

>Clown World is a strange ride
Imagine posting this below the post that he did

[Anonymous No.14503318]

>>14503242
It's not about what these people are, but what they have the capacity to be and what they strive to become. Surely the ideology that holds a certain ideal - even if they never fully achieve it - has a better chance of achieving its actualization than the ideology which explicitly professes the opposite and overtly works to limit those who disagree. An individual's self-actualization is tied to the self-actualization of his broader community and culture. Leftism in Western countries explicitly works against actualization of higher ideals.

[Anonymous No.14503319]

>>14503304
creeping on autistic teenage girls on discord because you're completely unfuckable is praxis

[Anonymous No.14503333]

>>14503318
>Leftism in Western countries explicitly works against actualization of higher ideals.
The leftism understander

[Anonymous No.14503343]

>>14503135
>"aren't you being dangerously eurocentric?"
And then you can call them out on how their faggot embracing ideology is eurocentric.

[Anonymous No.14503348]

>>14503227
Yes. Breadtube is the very-online left trying to imitate the "skeptics" from the 2013-2018 period.
Now they're even more cringe-inducing than Sargon & friends.

[Anonymous No.14503363]

>>14503052
Vaush doesn't know what right wing philosophy is. Right wing to him means republican jordan peterson liberal capitalists. Though in his defense that's what almost everyone thinks.

[Anonymous No.14503371]

>>14503363
he doesn't comprehend any left wing ideas either

[Anonymous No.14503380]

>>14503318
Rightoids dont want the übermensch. They want to keep doing the same old shit they've been doing. Afraid of progress and evolution. Leftists arent any better either. Both are the same mediocre scum still caring about muh identity politics.

[Anonymous No.14503390]

Will politics ever become a more niche thing again?

[Anonymous No.14503405]

>>14503371
he's pretty much a socdem that votes democrat but because he says edgy things he thinks that makes him super far left

[Anonymous No.14503409]

>>14503405
So a chapofag

[Anonymous No.14503414]

>>14503107
you're making it sound extremely appealing actually.

[Anonymous No.14503420]

>>14503405
wut? he's an ancom sociologist that doesn't read theory
https://youtu.be/JlJkVPn2NRM

[Anonymous No.14503421]

>>14503414
kek this

[Anonymous No.14503430]

>>14503052
>Christianity is historically part of Right wing worldview
no it isn't, the left/right divide isn't about religion, and the people who inspired leftism were religious (Locke, Rousseau, ect.)

[Anonymous No.14503431]

>>14503420
that's what he says he is, but a lot of the things he does and supports just makes him seem like a socdem that votes democrat

[Anonymous No.14503436]

>>14503431
what should he do?

[Anonymous No.14503441]

>>14503430
>no it isn't, the left/right divide isn't about religion
It literally is though, how do you think the labels originated?

[Anonymous No.14503447]

>>14503436
Actually advocate for a revolution? I mean I'm no marxist theorist but a lot of the actually read marxists that I've seen taslk advocate against democrats and socdem policies saying theyre just concessions given to the working class so they don't start fighting for their interests

[Anonymous No.14503453]

>>14503441
In the French parliament.
>The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

[Anonymous No.14503462]

>>14503107
>Fascist political/economic theory does not really exist. Fascist "theory" is a grotesque mix of spiritual poems, occult "sciences", perversions of leftist thought, romanticism, weird philosophy and more.
>It is exceptionally hard to read up on what different fascist groups actually want to accomplish and precisely how their new government will function, the most you're likely to get is some poorly written manifesto talking about "natural orders" and muh race and other spooks. Fascists today are not theoretically coherent because their views are mainly absorbed from infographics on a certain board and weird videos on youtube.
obvious bait

[Anonymous No.14503465]

>>14503453
the correct answer

[Anonymous No.14503466]

>>14503453
Supporters of the Catholic Monarchy to the RIGHT and supporters of the Secular Liberal State to the LEFT. Why is it hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.14503472]

>>14503134
Biology also says gender is a spectrum

[Anonymous No.14503484]

>>14503227
>Was it just reaction to the SJW BTFO youtube phase
yes

[Anonymous No.14503487]

>>14503466
liberals were not secular lmao Locke literally justifies social contract theory by reference to the bible. Rousseau claimed atheists should be exiled because they cannot be trusted

[Anonymous No.14503490]

>>14503466
Can't it be argued that protestantism is "left wing" christianity? Especially considering protestantism is the origin of liberalism and basically the idea of secularism

[Anonymous No.14503492]

>>14503447
1.he's not a Marxist
2.the video I liked to is him advocating for a violent revolution

[Anonymous No.14503503]

>>14503466
>all revolutionaries were s*cular

[Anonymous No.14503510]

>>14503487
>Locke writes and dictates Catholic dogma
How can you be this smooth brained? Catholicism is absolutely incompatible with what the Left revolutionaries fought for. I don't care what he wrote.

[Anonymous No.14503512]

>>14503492
>he video I liked to is him advocating for a violent revolution
Isn't this literal terrorism/treason?

[Anonymous No.14503518]

>>14503466
everyone point and laugh at the retard

[Anonymous No.14503519]

>>14503487
We're talking about the French Revolution, not about bongs who were dead by then.

[Anonymous No.14503524]

>>14503085
>Who is Roger Scruton?

a literal nobody eternal anglo cigarette shill

[Anonymous No.14503529]

>>14503217
I can smell the twitter on you...

[Anonymous No.14503530]

>>14503503
>Catholicism can be compatible with secularist government that's not a monarchy

[Anonymous No.14503531]

>>14503466
somehow breadtubers are more illiterate than pol

[Anonymous No.14503533]

>>14503518
He's right, though. Christianity is associated with a right-wing ideology and atheism with a left-wing one.

[Anonymous No.14503535]

>>14503512
Only if you disagree with it

[Anonymous No.14503538]

>>14503492
>1.he's not a Marxist
He's said he's a marxist on multiple occasions? Just watch the debate with sargon where he says that he's a marxist. The same way he said he was a postmodernist too yet leftists go on about how there's no such thing as postmodern marxists.
>2.the video I liked to is him advocating for a violent revolution
You would think then he would be against socdem policies or the "bourgeois" democracy in general. You'd think advocating for another system would at least imply being against this system. It's the same reason the alt right votes republican, because they're edgy republicans

[Anonymous No.14503540]

>>14503519
they were the two main theorists the revolutionaries based the revolution on. they are literally the founders of liberalism

[Anonymous No.14503544]

>>14503063
Damn dude are you a ROGUE? A drfiter, a lonesome stranger, cool guy: and about to revv up some big engines and get the big wheels GOING?? Yes !

[Anonymous No.14503547]

>>14503524
He is an extremely well respected philosopher of aesthetics and politics but thanks for showing you don't know anything.

[Anonymous No.14503550]

>>14503533
just because all a is b doesn't mean all b is a anon

[Anonymous No.14503551]

>>14503530
>catholicism is only compatible with monarchy

[Anonymous No.14503552]

>>14503512
only if you're a fucking spook operative

[Anonymous No.14503553]

>>14503490
>Can't it be argued that protestantism is "left wing" christianity?
Yes, protestantism, as Nietzsche pointed out, is the origin of Liberalism.

[Anonymous No.14503560]

>>14503547
>half baked template reddit quip
kill yourself anglo nigger trash

[Anonymous No.14503563]

>>14503551
someone get Leo XIII on the line

[Anonymous No.14503570]

>>14503540
>they were the two main theorists the revolutionaries based the revolution on. they are literally the founders of liberalism
Protestantism is NOT traditional Christianity, wtf are you even arguing about? Catholicism IS Right Wing worldview

[Anonymous No.14503581]

>>14503530
Catholicism no longer believes in the necessity of the confessional state. Just one of many such cases where they flip-flopped.

[Anonymous No.14503585]

>>14503538
I watched it he never said he was a Marxist.

No, voting to make things a little better just means you aren't an idiot. Participating in things you disagree with doesn't mean you wouldn't prefer not to have something else entirely. You can vote Democrat/Republican because you think their policies are less bad than the other side's while still thinking Democrat/Republican are shit.

[Anonymous No.14503587]

>>14503550
True, that's why I used "associated" and not "a fundamental part of"

[Anonymous No.14503589]

>>14503570
>Protestantism is NOT traditional Christianity, wtf are you even arguing about?
not protestantism, I literally never brought it up so idk what you are on about

[Anonymous No.14503590]

>>14503472
Can you give me some articles that says that gender is a spectrum? What are some examples of this spectrum in other animal species?

[Anonymous No.14503596]

>>14503590
>thinking other animals have gender

[Anonymous No.14503603]

you're all retards for thinking you're going to get coherent responses from a discord op thread, they've been doing this for a week now
just point at laugh at vaush for the pederast zoophile he is and move on

also imagine "debating" sargon of akkad and somehow coming off looking worse than he does

[Anonymous No.14503604]

>>14503533
Only on the surface, in the same way that Republicans are considered on the right and Democrats on the left. But nobody with a brain actually thinks that's accurate.
Christianity with its egalitarian universalist ideology is clearly a leftist ideology.

[Anonymous No.14503618]

>>14503590
I wouldnt trust those articles since (((science))) nowadays is heavily politicized with a liberal bias. "Gender" was a term invented in the 50s by John Money.

[Anonymous No.14503619]

No, the real answer is because leftism is an enslaved revolution. All they need to do to stop it is bring in social leftism, the movement killer. Going on about trans veganism and straight cishet privilege just makes all the normal people leave and kills the movement dead. See the DSA or OWS.
Another option is a giant evil company can slap a rainbow flag on their logo for a few days a year and the radlibs LARPing as socialists will yaaaas kweeen all the way to their stores like the useful idiots they are. They'll actually turn on the commies that point out the blatant pinkwashing, it's literally an ad that can't be criticised or mocked, and big companies have learned how to use this to great effect.
Rightism has no such weak point and is much more difficult to control, which means they take it far more seriously as a threat despite being far smaller, it's the reason I can walk into any bookstore on Earth and buy Capital or the Manifesto, but almost never anything by Evola.

[Anonymous No.14503631]

>>14503596
So how can he say that "biology says that gender is a spectrum"?

[Anonymous No.14503632]

>>14503380
trannies are not progress and evolution, they are consumer cattle with pink hair. if anything associating with leftists is a strategical liability, these people are weak and mentally ill, detached from any traditional culture, they don't read jack shit and think you should kow tow to them just because they get fucked in the ass. no fucking thanks.

[Anonymous No.14503636]

>>14503618
He said that there's biologic evidence, so I want to see it.

[Anonymous No.14503639]

>>14503052
>vaush

[Anonymous No.14503640]

>>14503631
by being wrong

[Anonymous No.14503654]

>>14503639
yikes

[Anonymous No.14503655]

>>14503125
Right wing =/= conservative

[Anonymous No.14503657]

he's got a based ancom pig gf, aren't you guys jealous

[Anonymous No.14503659]

>>14503052
Rightwingers can’t even wrap their heads around the antinatalist argument of consent. No wonder so many of them actually stand by rape.

[Anonymous No.14503661]

>>14503619
This is true. Right Wing ideology is ultimately more stabile, and this is something that Peterson points out, than Left wing ideology. That's because Right Wing ideology has largely stayed the same for 2000 years: God, Family, Nation. People know the rules, faggotry is not allowed, atheism "do as thou wilt" is not allowed.

Leftist ideology is a much different story. It's inherently unstable, because the rules change on a day to day basis. First there are 2 genders, then 10, then 72 and God knows what's next, you know what I mean. There's much more fraction within Leftism, just look at DSA Convention to get a hint.

[Anonymous No.14503662]

>>14503657
She is a hyena not a pig.

[Anonymous No.14503664]

I wish people would step back from all of these -isms and look at the world more broadly.
There are things outside of obvious political ideological factors which influence the course of history.
For example technological advancements likely caused more dysgenic effects than any leftist thinker.

[Anonymous No.14503671]

>>14503659
antinatalists deserve rape though

[Anonymous No.14503676]

>>14503664
this. just smash the machinery my dudes

[Anonymous No.14503681]

/lit/ nigglets dont know that the only real, acceptable ideology is liberal at its core. Conservatism rejects the individuals right to pursue happiness(i know this will trigger a lot of you incels but its the truth, also have sex) making any ideological followed of conservatism a hypocrite who expects happiness for himself but not for others. In the end, the only ideology that remains which is not morally bankrupt is social liberalism, as the only option is the ideological oxymoron conservative liberalism aka classic liberalism.

so grow up and get into your head that the only slavery that will be coming back will be equal, and it will be imposed by the very corporations which you cheer on when you support classic liberalism which essence created those monsters too begin with. Good work and fuck you.

[Anonymous No.14503690]

>>14503657
Is that his actual girlfriend? God damn Vaush is out of her league

[Anonymous No.14503692]

>>14503681
Liberalism needs to get tortured and killed in all of its forms. Tranditionalism, Monarchy, or Dictatorship will comeback and crush this disease

[Anonymous No.14503696]

>>14503690
They're poly so...

[Anonymous No.14503698]

>>14503690
yeah just look at this specimen of a man

[Anonymous No.14503705]

>>14503690
>Vaush the dyel hamplanet
he treats her like garbage too she'll leave him soon enough

[Anonymous No.14503709]

>>14503657
>even his chat uses the word "femoid"

[Anonymous No.14503710]

>>14503696
Is he like Destiny and fucking models for days while in a poly relationship

[Anonymous No.14503714]

>>14503544
they don't call me fats slimming for nothing.

[Anonymous No.14503717]

>>14503705
>>14503698
At least he tries to make himself look good

[Anonymous No.14503730]

>>14503692
Lmao ye good luck running a modern society like that, it barely works even in the super backwards middle east

[Anonymous No.14503733]

>>14503590
the very emergence of the concept of 'gender' is a sign of the human species' increasing detachment from its biological and reproductive function. I think Simone de Beauvoir even said something on these lines back in the 50s, when she talked about how her feminist ideas couldn't have emerged under past technological conditions. Sartre and her, based all their philosophy on a concept of ''freedom'' they were unable to define, but saw incarnated in Dostoevsky's underground man, which if you have read Girard you might recognize as the endpoint of frustrated mimetic desire. Liberated individualism of the left requires the replacement of distributed authority in church, family and autonomous social groups for an intrusive and monolithic managerial state that tends towards totalitarianism.

[Anonymous No.14503735]

>>14503710
He doesn't have enough of a following outside of trannies for that

[Anonymous No.14503747]

>>14503717
>At least he tries to make himself look good
by sitting in front of a computer 16 hours a day?

[Anonymous No.14503753]

>>14503052
He's just an autistic grug

[Anonymous No.14503769]

>>14503735
I want a harem of trannies. I should start a twitch stream.

[Anonymous No.14503774]

>>14503681
>talks about oxymorons
>calls people "incels"
ironic

[Anonymous No.14503776]

>>14503472
How could it possibly say that if gender is a social construct.

[Anonymous No.14503785]

>>14503776
>>14503640

[Anonymous No.14503799]

>>14503553
>>14503490
lol at you, treating all protestants like the same. Look at some more radical types of protestants, like evangelicals, and say they are more "left wing" than the catholic church

[Anonymous No.14503802]

>>14503774
Thats not an oxymoron thou you doofus

[Anonymous No.14503804]

>>14503661
>faggotry is not allowed
Mr. Mishima would like to have a word with you ...

[Anonymous No.14503827]

Right wing homosexual >>14503804
Left wing homosexual >>14503698

[Anonymous No.14503833]

>>14503802
it means "involuntary celibate" but all celibacy is voluntary by definition (look it up), it's literally embedded in the definition. If "incel" is not an oxymoron then neither is "conservative liberalism."

[Anonymous No.14503878]

>>14503833
According to wikipedia maybe, but according to most dictionaries it just means "abstention from sexual imtercourse". So no, its not an oxymoron.

[Anonymous No.14503881]

Most far righters i see tend to have a very pessimistic view of their situation, things are bad and will only get worse, their movements have failed and history itself may be set up to ensure their failure.
But somehow the position of the far left seems even more dire, they are utterly coopted, commies on /lit/ will pretend it isn't so but 99% of communists are totally in support of the system and are in fact the most vicious suppressors of dissidant voices.

[Anonymous No.14503894]

Monarchism sounds cool and all, but what happens when the royals turn out to be bugmen?

[Anonymous No.14503901]

>>14503776
It's not a social construct. Since the left can't accept this biological facts (specially interest and personality trait differences between males and females), it seems that Biology is a Right wing science.

[Anonymous No.14503908]

>>14503878
"abstention" is precisely the voluntary element I'm talking about... Abstention is choosing not to do something, so yes, "incel" is an oxymoron.

[Anonymous No.14503912]

>>14503052
This guy is an actual pedophile btw.

[Anonymous No.14503917]

>>14503912
source

[Anonymous No.14503919]

>>14503901
Sex is biological, gender is not. You're the one who is in conflict with modern science.

[Anonymous No.14503921]

>>14503901
interests and personality traits are not biologically determined for the most part

[Anonymous No.14503927]

>>14503908
Abstaining is not necessarily voulentary

[Anonymous No.14503928]

>>14503894
That's the beauty of ultimate authority. There's Skin in the Game, the people know exactly WHO's in charge and can at any moment, as history has shown, hold the people in charge to account.

The ingenious, but malignant way that Democracy is structured makes it hard for people to know who's in power, because there's a system, an apparatus and not a Person/Persons behind the curtain pulling the strings

[Anonymous No.14503941]

>>14503917
I think it's true, search "Vaush Vegan Gains pedo" on youtube and the video will probably come up were he defends pedophilia

[Anonymous No.14503942]

Well, in many issues the left has the statistical approval by coincidence whereas the right is a denier. It is also more common to see the right making up conspiracies and that stuff.

Of course, there is way more than just that, but up to the most basic level of politics, yeah, the right is almost plain out refuted.

[Anonymous No.14503943]

>>14503917
Then gender isnt science

[Anonymous No.14503945]

>>14503928
Regents can play the blame game too, theres no difference there. A regent cant be voted out of office either, and a revolt is easy to beat down.

[Anonymous No.14503947]

>>14503919
gender ideology is leftist social engineering. This is not a question of science but one of political theology, conservatives want to preserve the human form, leftists and lgbt want to deface the human form beyond recognition, normalise pedophilia and grind us all down into pink hair consumer cattle through coercitive corporogovernamental power. tell me Why shouldn't I regard these people as enemies?

[Anonymous No.14503964]

>>14503947
Its sociology, not leftists. The binary gender system is no more real than the gregorian calendra or the imperial system.
- theyre just tools to describe the world somewhat accurately.

[Anonymous No.14503969]

>>14503943
of course it isn't, are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.14503974]

>>14503894
>>14503928
/ourguy/ AltHype made a somewhat related video recently
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jeroq1tZ2v6W/

[Anonymous No.14503977]

>>14503941
you mean anime lolis ?

[Anonymous No.14503979]

>>14503964
but it is clear we need radical and uncompromising action targeting the ideological minority of freaks who are bent on subverting society. I think the freaks have gone to far, it's about high time for normal people like us to put them back in their place.

[Anonymous No.14503980]

>>14503945
>and a revolt is easy to beat down.
Which is good, we wouldn't want revolt over the pettiest matter, but history has shown that it is possible. Democratic Liberalism on the other hand is another beast, and is espoused to have lead to the End of History.

[Anonymous No.14503983]

>>14503927
From Merriam-Webster dictionary: "abstention: the act or practice of choosing not to do or have something." The element of choice is essential to define abstention, otherwise it'd be something else. The term "incel" was invented by a Canadian teenage (?) girl in the 90s so I wouldn't expect a young person to come up with consistent and solid terminology.

[Anonymous No.14503986]

>>14503977
>you mean anime lolis ?
I don't know, just saw a screenshot on Twitter and didn't bother to click on it. Watch the video and find out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.14504000]

>>14503974
thanks, will watch.

[Anonymous No.14504013]

>>14503986
You couldn't be bothered to find out, yet you expect me to do the research on your assertion.
unironically kys

[Anonymous No.14504023]

>>14504013
>my assertion
kys you fat pig leftist. I'm not the guy who said he's a pedo to begin with.

[Anonymous No.14504024]

>>14503983
According do both the Camebridge and Oxford dictionaries, it simply mean not to do something.

[Anonymous No.14504054]

>>14503980
>Democratic Liberalism on the other hand is another beast, and is espoused to have lead to the End of History.
Do you have litterally anything to back up any of that?

[Anonymous No.14504055]

>>14504023
>to begin with
so you're still making the assertion then?

[Anonymous No.14504065]

who is he

[Anonymous No.14504066]

How is a "coherent worldview" even possible?

[Anonymous No.14504067]

>>14503052
the guy who uses this as a profile is a onions titted manlet IRL

[Anonymous No.14504070]

>>14504054
>He literally unironically doesn't know
wtf are you even doing on this board?

[Anonymous No.14504072]

>>14503979
Why? Trannies are a tiny part of the population anyway, why not just let them do whatever the hell they want?

[Anonymous No.14504080]

>>14504055
Why don't you read my post and find out for yourself, you want me to feed you everything you lazy fucking loser kys

[Anonymous No.14504083]

>>14504054
Forgot to attach pic

[Anonymous No.14504084]

>>14504080
I'm going to take that a yes you're making the assertion

[Anonymous No.14504086]

>>14504084
>I'm going to take that a yes you're making the assertion
kys you scum. you're not interested in the truth, it would take you 2 seconds to find out but you won't because it would make you feel bad about being wrong, you're a pathetic weak minded human

[Anonymous No.14504091]

>>14503921
If by "the most part" you mean that not every male wants to become an engineer and not every female wants to become a nurse, then sure, there are a lot of exceptions. Yet, it contributes to a big difference in the proportion of both genders in these areas of studies (ie areas that focus on people vs areas that focus on things).

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.14504093]

>>14504054
lurk more

[Anonymous No.14504099]

>>14504086
its a two hour debate anon and you literally couldn't be bothered to find out either, and yet you are the only one making claims about shit they don't know.

[Anonymous No.14504103]

Watching the Stormfront brigading in this thread is incredible.

[Anonymous No.14504104]

>>14504070
No, im asking you

Do you have any actual proof that democratic liberalism is the end of history?

[Anonymous No.14504113]

>>14504099
Your reading comprehension is so bad, I feel bad for you. Some guy here claimed that I MADE THE ASSERTION that Vaush is a pedo, I DIDN'T. I merely said that I think he "might" be a pedo: >>14503941, and I gave a source because some other guy asked for it. Instead of thanking me for the source, which I politely delivered without any reciprocation in mind, I have to deal with this bullshit

[Anonymous No.14504120]

>>14504113
>I think it's true
That is the assertion right there

[Anonymous No.14504125]

>>14504104
>do you have any proof
Did I say I had proof, you utter brainlet with the reading comprehension of a fucking retard? God why are people so dumb on /lit/?

To quote myself again: "and is espoused to have lead to the End of History."

I said "espoused", as in, it is believed to have lead to the end of history. Now kys you brainlet and lurk more before you make another post

[Anonymous No.14504126]

>>14503654
>>14503639
And yet?

[Anonymous No.14504131]

>>14504126
kek

[Anonymous No.14504137]

>>14504125
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.14504138]

>>14503052
This is a bit like asking why Harvard in 1700 had no departments devoted to atheism.

[Anonymous No.14504139]

>>14504120
>That is the assertion right there
And I gave a source, wtf is your problem? I never said I had definitive proof, if you want to know go and look it up, but you're not interested in the turret, are you

[Anonymous No.14504151]

>>14504137
>Not an argument
It wasn't meant to be one, kys molymeme. Prove to be that I said I have proof, were did I say that?

[Anonymous No.14504160]

>>14504139
you didn't give me the source. You suggested search terms for a debate that would take me an hour+ to watch just to so I can can say your assertion is wrong. What is wrong with you that you would suggest someone is a pedophile with 0 evidence?

[Anonymous No.14504161]

>>14504024
>(((Cambridge))) and (((Oxford)))
Might as well quote an abridged kids dictionary at this point (these dictionaries are disappointing, that's why I use Merriam-Webster). They're both wrong since their definitions are incomplete. English "abstain":
>avoid (something); refrain (oneself) from; keep free from sin or vice; live austerely, practice abstinence or asceticism; be sexually continent
Comes from Old French "abstiner":
>hold (oneself) back, refrain voluntarily, abstain (from what satisfies the passions), practice abstinence.

THIS is the connotation used in the context of the definition for the word "celibacy." It's voluntary by definition, making "incel" an oxymoron

[Anonymous No.14504168]

>>14504160
>What is wrong with you that you would suggest someone is a pedophile with 0 evidence?
You're too stupid to find the clip that's like 1 minute, floating around. Not my problem brainlet. If you can't find that clip, it's not my problem

[Anonymous No.14504183]

>>14504168
If its so easy why didn't you link to it?

[Anonymous No.14504195]

>>14504161
>Two world renowned universities BAD
>look at the OLD meaning of the word
Hmm

[Anonymous No.14504196]

>>14504183
Because It's not my job, I wasn't the one who originally made the claim that Vaush is a pedo, some else did. I merely provided a search term to a person who asked for a source.

>Someone asks for help
>I give help
>I'm stuck with this shit
I will remind myself to never help a leftist again

[Anonymous No.14504209]

>>14504196
You didn't help, and you aren't stuck with anything, no one is making (you) reply, you don't even have a reputation attached to this anon

[Anonymous No.14504217]

>>14504209
>You didn't help
I literally did. Not my problem that you're too handicapped to find the clip. I provided the stream that he got accused of admitting being a pedo on.

[Anonymous No.14504227]

>>14504217
You didn't help, It doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.14504237]

>>14504209
>you don't even have a reputation attached to this anon
I don't care about reputation, I care about principle. I assume you're a human being sitting across the screen. My act of helping would be the same as me walking an old lady across the street, I don't differentiate. Someone asks for help, and I provide without any reward or return in mind, simply out of kindness.

I you don't understand why this would make me upset, then I would have to assume that you're either not a human or you are incapable of feeling empathy

[Anonymous No.14504241]

>>14504237
Your act is the same as telling her to cross in traffic.

[Anonymous No.14504251]

>>14504241
whatever makes you feel better, I certainly didn't have any intention of putting someone in harms way or wasting another's time.

[Anonymous No.14504255]

>>14504195
>Two world renowned universities BAD
YES. Their online dictionaries suck. Watered down shit for kids and plebs.
>look at the OLD meaning of the word
It's the current meaning as well.

[Anonymous No.14504264]

>>14504241
In your mind intention has zero meaning, you lack empathy if you think like this and it's hurtful towards people.

[Anonymous No.14504308]

>>14504251
>>14504264

[Anonymous No.14504317]

>>14503052
>The only valid things are those currently studied in academia
Youtube "intellectuals" are a plague

[Anonymous No.14504329]

>>14504308
You love being a smug piece of shit, don't you?
>durrr leftists are compassionate and care for people
The real redpill is realizing that leftist, like all women, only care about how they themselves feel. If disposition makes THEM feel bad, they will do everything they can to make themselves feel good.

Leftist are incapable of empathy, understanding how others feel.

[Anonymous No.14504330]

>>14503619
Actual answer.

[Anonymous No.14504375]

>>14504329
says the person accusing others of pedophilia with no evidence.

[Anonymous No.14504426]

>>14504375
>no evidence.
Just to rub it in your face and make you seethe, I'm going to provide the video. Fuck you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJNQfVzV0s

[Anonymous No.14504441]

>>14504426
oh shit I was wong it exists, thank you for proving the link <3

[Anonymous No.14504452]

>>14504441
care to give an apology? you really hurt my feelings.

[Anonymous No.14504489]

>>14503941
https://twitter.com/ZoomerClips/status/1213371147535843329

[Anonymous No.14504513]

>>14504452
I'm sorry I made you find the clip for me, and that I told you to kill yourself. You still have zero evidence he's a pedo though

[Anonymous No.14504520]

>>14503125
AHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.14504583]

>>14504072
And if they where a tiny undistruptive Subgroup like how drag queens use to be no one would care. But the explicit push instead of implicit integration makes a good majority of the mentality and many people who buy into it inauthentic and coercive. They don’t se themselves as a statistical anomily, simply a niche group, but something that should, and with all the suddltly if a boulder be normalized when it is by definition in normal. Like most things it is not the ends I disagree with, but the contemptible means.

[Anonymous No.14504597]

>>14503901
You don't understand, at some point gender was simply another word for sex that most people used after sex became a dirty word.
Leftists have redefined the term however, now gender, the term that most people use when referring to sex, actually refers to how you dress and what your personality is like. They then play very fast and loose with the distinction between sex and gender, taking advantage of the confusion of terms. We now have biological men competing in women's sports because of their "gender" even though the thing they call gender never had anything to do with the divide between men's and women's sports.
They do this with a few words, they cannot destroy the actual object, so they create a copy of it and destroy that instead. Its just peak dishonesty.

So Gender (as they define it) is by definition not biological (although it is obviously very very biologically influenced)
Gender as most people think of it is completely biological
They don't care what most people think, that's why your refutation is functionally incoherent.

[Anonymous No.14504656]

>>14504597
This

[Anonymous No.14504663]

>>14504513
Apology accepted, I'm sorry I told you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14504671]

>>14504597
>You don't understand, at some point gender was simply another word for sex that most people used after sex became a dirty word.
No. There are cultures in history that had notions of 3+ genders.

[Anonymous No.14504724]

>>14504671
You're an idiot and what you posted is irrelevant.
I'll tell you a society in history that had a notion of 3+ "genders". Ours, that's as relevant as any tribe on the ass end of Africa to the legitimacy of this kind of concept.
But that has literally nothing to do with what you quoted because none of those societies even fucking spoke english you dumb fuck. They never used the words gender OR sex.

[Anonymous No.14504735]

>>14504724
What I said was relevant and what you posted just now is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.14504742]

>>14504735
No, when discussing how words were and are used in the english language, it makes no fucking sense to bring up people who do not speak english.

[Anonymous No.14504743]

>>14504663
You don't need to apologise for that, I deserved it, I told you to kill yourself and that was super uncool.

[Anonymous No.14504754]

>>14504742
>english language
not relevant

[Anonymous No.14504757]

>>14504671
Tell me which, and I doubt that the literal translation, or intent of the idea will equate to the modern term “gender”

[Anonymous No.14504759]

>>14504754
Don't talk to me if you're just going to grug at me.

[Anonymous No.14504770]

>>14504757
This is something you can search up in 2 seconds

[Anonymous No.14504774]

>>14504757
Its not relevant, people in the past believing something doesn't make it valid, otherwise you better start believing in a whole fucking host of retarded shit.

[Anonymous No.14504801]

>>14504774
Nothing to do with anything. It is relevant because it takes a look at how other cultures went about experiencing and relating with the world.
>>14504724
What you said was that it was only recently that gender did not equal sex. The fact that other cultures had concepts of more than 2 genders tears apart your ignorance.

[Anonymous No.14504804]

>>14504770
Then do it for them

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

https://listverse.com/2018/10/03/10-societies-that-recognize-more-than-two-genders/

[Anonymous No.14504807]

>>14504801
That's not what i said you brain dead retard.

[Anonymous No.14504810]

>>14504774
That’s my point, I bet most of them have a metaphysical/spiritual connotation to them or are a describe nature of personality ie a manly women or some such. However, in a society that professes spiritual neutrality, there is no reason for the concept of gender.

[Anonymous No.14504811]

>>14504804
I'm not doing it for them. People need to put more effort into researching their own shit and reading. It is why this board is garbage.

[Anonymous No.14504843]

>>14504811
They won't go away, so I thinks it's best to help them stop being ignorant

[Anonymous No.14504847]

>>14503472
No it doesnt

[Anonymous No.14504848]

>>14504811
>>14504843
Lol i love this self soothing behavior.

[Anonymous No.14504875]

>>14504329
>The real redpill is realizing that leftist, like all women, only care about how they themselves feel. If disposition makes THEM feel bad, they will do everything they can to make themselves feel good.
This is how all animal life functions

[Anonymous No.14504881]

>>14504811
>>14504843
Sorry that I’m following in the vein of Plato. I want the argument, not the sources. If you cannot come to a conclusion through thought alone, why bother?

[Anonymous No.14504884]

>>14504801
Always hard to tell if "leftists" are fucking stupid or just lying through their teeth.

[Anonymous No.14504899]

>>14504875
>This is how all animal life functions
Great to know that I, with zero knowledge or training in Biology, can give an accurate take on animal life through mere intense rumination.

[Anonymous No.14504926]

>>14503380
I don't think you actually know anything about "Rightoids." Have you ever considered, I don't know, actually talking to right wingers aside from confrontational shitposting to see what they believe and how they rationalize it? Your sargonite nonsense doesn't actually seem to be even slightly informed by what contemporary dissident (or even mainstream) right wing thinkers are saying about the modern world.

[Anonymous No.14504949]

>>14504884
Sorry I tore apart your retarded world view. Maybe read more?

[Anonymous No.14504966]

>>14504926
>right wing thinkers are saying about the modern world
"degeneracy BAD. jews BAD. uhh umm something I learned in a 101 course!"
Right wing "thought" is a joke.

[Anonymous No.14504976]

>>14504966
>degeneracy BAD. jews BAD.
but it is

[Anonymous No.14504986]

>>14504976
>but it is
I agree with you here, but the problem I see on the Right is that many are unable to answer WHY it's bad. You need to be able to argue against a lefties who will say that it's not a problem.

Just saying it's bad is not going to cut it.

[Anonymous No.14504998]

>>14504949
>Plugging your ears and yelling is a btfo
Damn, am i actually talking to vaush right now?

[Anonymous No.14505002]

>>14504986
seems the general reason is that it leads to societies that can't reproduce or defend themselves, the immoral preying on the moral, and debasement of high culture

[Anonymous No.14505019]

>>14504966
Adding on because I didn't get the full complexity of right wing "thought" across.
"we all need to GO BACK because uhhh ummm it was somehow better back then! we all need to die in a war because I can't make friends! materialism bad hack spiritualism good!"

[Anonymous No.14505040]

>>14505019
>>14504966
Cringe

[Anonymous No.14505055]

>>14505040
Sorry I tore apart your childish world view. Maybe stop indulging in flimsy ideology and read more?

[Anonymous No.14505067]

>>14505055
>productive white man BAD, disabled black tranny GOOD
this is the equivalent of what you wrote

[Anonymous No.14505096]

>>14505019
Lol, this is the kind of stuff you're only supposed to comfort yourself with in private. Most people are self aware enough not to say it in public.

[Anonymous No.14505205]

>>14503490
no, because if we check general social surveys, Protestants tend to have more "conservative" views on most topics at least in the Anglosphere. even worldwide, the idea of the Catholic Church as a bastion of reaction is a non-starter, in Latin America for example it's seen as associated with Communism.
>but sexual decadence
it's unironically a highly evolved form of anti-racism, it's not really decadent

[Anonymous No.14505693]

>>14503052
Modern academia is a central node of the neoliberal 'Cathedral'; it is totally politically compromised, so it's a mistake to suppose that it upholds primary standards of logic and efficacy. Even hard sciences are not immune to this rot, where they intersect with political agendas (e.g. HBD studies, racist AI). 'Right wing' and third positionist ideology is scorned because it harshly and explicitly opposes neoliberalist shibboleths, while leftist theory is less vocal about such issues and so can be romanticized and co-opted (even though actual OG leftists wouldn't condone demographic invasion of their nations, nor liberal degeneracy).

It isn't about credibilty — or right vs. left — it's about a war between neoliberalism (the inevitable reciprocal fusion of hyperliberalism & hypercapitalism) and any ideology which espouses higher values (ethnos being the most despised, probably because it is the most important).

[Anonymous No.14505782]

>>14505019
I think that same reductionist UC stance could apply to liberals we need to change because, uh, change good”

So if we take away all the derision we are simply saying liberals want revolution for the sake of revolution and conservatives want return for the sake of return. I would argue both are simple views that are rightly applied to a good part of the popular who are reactionary for reactionaries sake.

[Anonymous No.14505797]

>>14503472
It literally could not possibly do that because the concept of gender is outside of biological science.

>>14503107
Imagine not being able to form yourself a concrete definition of one of the most thrown about terms on the internet in current year.

[Anonymous No.14505806]

imagine being an "anarchist" and sucking off the house pseuds employed by the state

[Anonymous No.14505813]

>>14504966
>>14505019

So basically what you're telling me is that my suspicions were correct and you've never actually listened to anyone on the right that isn't just some guy in the comments section of your favorite liberal YouTuber. Enjoy being a waste of time, there's nothing left to be gained from talking to you except to make fun of you for being the spiritual equivalent of a cockroach feasting on the rotting crumbs of a civilization you don't understand.

[Anonymous No.14505837]

>>14503052
muh rightwing muh leftwing
doesnt mean anything except what a person somehow identifies with

[Anonymous No.14505899]

>>14503107
It's difficult to read up on what they actually want because the texts that aren't vague nonsense are de facto banned because nobody will translate or print them. There are Penguin Classics editions of Lenin's main writings, ostensibly because of their historical and philosophical influence. Do you think they would ever do this with fascist works? The postwar world was largely purged of these ideologies because their main proponents had been defeated. The only reason Marxism persists is because of its wide popularity in Western academic circles and some third world countries. When the last old Nazis advising Arab and South American regimes retired or died, fascists and neo-Nazis were relegated to less influential rungs of the ladder, as common criminals and stooges in CIA operations. Even the words "fascist" and "Nazi" have been watered down to the point that the hyperbolic use of them to insult anybody you don't like the opinions of has largely supplanted the correct use of them. If you took a course on the history and doctrine fascism, do you think it would consist more of reading the few readily-available fascist texts or works by Arendt and Paxton describing fascism? Fascism is shitty ideology, but let's not pretend the difficulty in accessing fascist theory is entirely their own fault.

[Anonymous No.14505914]

>>14503052
Universities being filled with lefties is a very modern phenomenon ... basically just all the 1960s era hippies became sociology professors and that's it. For the entirety of history before, and in the future, the university is part of the establishment and so innately conservative.

[Anonymous No.14505931]

>>14505899
don't let's pretend there is any equivalence between the deterministic view of history and human progress as outlined in marxist theory, and an ideology built entirely around irrationalist rejection of enlightenment and sexual revulsion towards outgroups

[Anonymous No.14505936]

>>14505931
There is a very obvious equivalence being as they're both fucking nonsense that doesn't remotely resemble history

[Anonymous No.14505985]

>>14503052
Leftists are the best at institutional warfare, and rightism is inherently unappealing to academics. But realistically speaking, the academic elite is always a group propagated by the ruling class in order to spread an aura of officiality. This happens in liberal countries, fascist ones, communist ones, all of them. Because of this, academic credibility is more of an insult to a belief than supportive of it. I find it gross to see one of my beliefs even talked about in the mainstream.

[Anonymous No.14505990]

>>14505985
>Leftists are the best at institutional warfare
hmm then why do leftists oppose oppressive institutional power structures?

[Anonymous No.14505995]

>>14503052
i live in eastern europe, and almost every academic i know, especially if under 50, is some sort of friedmanite freemarketeer neocon

[Anonymous No.14506006]

>>14505990
An oppressive institutional power structure is just one they aren't in charge of.