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Childhood is Nietzsche,
Adulthood is Schopenhauer

>> No.14493938
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14493938

All the worst aspects of childhood and adulthood: Schopenhauer
All the best aspects of childhood and adulthood: Nietzsche

>> No.14493971

>>14493933
I'd say the opposite. After all, Nietzche refuted Schop after learning all he could from him.

>> No.14493989

>>14493938
Literally the other way around.

>> No.14494794

nietzshe is a rye
schopenhauer is a bourbon

>> No.14494800

>>14493933
Let it be noted that today on the 8th of January 2020, op was not a faggot

>>14493938
Shut up moth, bet you haven't even read Schopenhauer

>> No.14494803

>>14494794
Schopenhauer is pumpernickel

>> No.14494805

>>14494800
I've read Schop and he had some pretty stupid ideas. Music with lyrics/ libretto is bad because.... It degrades theater or something? Just idiocy.

>> No.14494809

Childhood is Montaigne, adulthood is Montesquieu

>> No.14494814

Infancy is Schopenhauer
Adolescence is Nietzsche
Adulthood is Kierkegaard
Senile dementia is Hegel

>> No.14494818
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Purely pessimistic philosophy is ultimately immature. When pessimism reaches the deepest of its depths, it comes out the other side in the form of optimism. Nothing matters? All is worthless? Pain, suffering, and boredom are all guarantees? Good, there's no pressure, we will be feeling these no matter what. They cannot be escaped. So let's build a better world. Or leave this one. Both would be nothing but a gift, we can't lose anything for trying, and can only gain.

Nietzsche's optimistic break from Schopenhauer is the more constructive, more useful, it is deeper. Schoppy was wise, but he like all men had blinders. Nietzsche took them off him.

>> No.14494820

>>14494805
Silence! I was talking to the other moth

>> No.14494821

>>14493933
Nietzsche think he was so special just because he suffers a lot and being the first psychologist philosopher.

>> No.14494826

>>14494814
>Adulthood is Kierkegaard
holy kek laddy, he's the most adolescent of them all

>> No.14494829

>>14494805
You were supposed to be based, Butterfly.

>> No.14494835

Nietzsche is to Schopenhauer what Hegel was to Kant: not a philosopher.

>> No.14494842
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>>14494835
Good. Such a title is an indictment. Metaphysics? Nothing but trash, all the way down.

>> No.14494845

>>14494835
Nah I wouldn't be so harsh to him. He's more an artistic philosopher. Meaning that while he had some good ideas as a philosopher, we should look at him and his whole body of work as not just philosophy, but a work of art.

>> No.14494855

>neetshit
>world a shit
>dont drink alcohol
what was he thinking?

>> No.14494860

>>14494842
To say this is to accept a specific metaphysical framework as a given. That means Nietsche crafted his system with the leftover trash that you yourself throw away.

>> No.14494873

>>14494860
>accept it as a given
no, just as a tool in service of the will to power. It's not true, nor real. Just a subject's perspective.

>> No.14494876

>>14494873
Why would we want to service the will to power?

>> No.14494878

>>14494855
watch something other than school of life videos, pleb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkFqkUmK32U

>> No.14494882

>>14494826
Cringe, Bluepilled, Etc.

>> No.14494886

>>14494876

[Faust:] "So, still I seek the force, the reason governing life's flow, and not just its external show."
[Mephistopheles:] "The governing force? The reason? Some things cannot be known; they are beyond your reach even when shown."
[Faust:] "Why should that be so?"
[Mephistopheles:] "They lie outside the boundaries that words can address; and man can only grasp those thoughts which language can express."

>> No.14494889

>>14494818
>So let's build a better world
Everything is ultimately pain and death, there is possibility of bettering anything
>We can't lose anything for trying, and can only gain
There is nothing to gain
You are a pig being fed swill mixed in with shit before you get butchered, and you think it smells like roses?

>> No.14494892

>>14494882
Whiner kys

>> No.14494894

>>14494889
Then leave it. You have nothing to lose. Suicide would be a gift to this man. But it's not, because you are not this man, and no one is.

>> No.14494895

>>14494889
>You are a pig being fed swill mixed in with shit before you get butchered, and you think it smells like roses?
so powerful my fedora tipped itself

>> No.14494897

>>14494873
Ah, But he is still using the tool. The ends of that tool is irrelevant. It is still a reality of the space used to present the argument.

>> No.14494900

>>14494886
Very interesting passage. But does it answer my question? I meant why should we service the will to power, as Nietzsche says, and not to negate it as Schopenhauer says we should do?

>> No.14494909

>>14494889
For unaware lurkers, Schopenhauer was not at all this pessimistic. This is more in line of Mainlander crap. Schopenhauer did believe we can improve, only that a "perfect" world is never possible.

>> No.14494913

>>14494909
>Schopenhauer was not at all this pessimistic
True

>> No.14494954
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>>14493989
>Being a crotchety crybaby is based!
>Being fearless and playful is bad!
Literally awful opinion, anon

>>14494805
Good to know

>> No.14494966

>>14494805
you have zero aesthetic sensibilities, and no understanding of music or its purpose.

>> No.14494989

>>14493933
Childhood - Stirner
Adulthood - Nietzsche
Old Age - Evola

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>>14494954

>> No.14495531

>>14494845
Based and Hitlerpilled

>> No.14495534

>>14494818
Good post fren.

>> No.14495536

>>14493933
Schopenhauer was the kind of person who'd troll themselves on here, and Nietzsche is the kind who'd troll the trolls.

>> No.14495551
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Childhood: Marx
Teenager: Neitzche
Adulthood: Marx

>> No.14495589

Childhood Jesus
Adolescence Schop
Adulthood Nietzsche
Old Age Jesus

>> No.14495602

Zygote - Plato
Embryo - Aristotle
Fetus - Buddha
Toddler - Nietzsche
Child - Kant
Puberty - Schopenhauer
Adulthood - Muhammad
Senility - Muhammad

>> No.14495648

>>14494818
This is what i’ve thought for a long time. Pessimists of all forms are just people who cannot complete the loop due to immaturity/short term appeal of self-pity and loathing. To complete the loop would require them to take responsibility and enable themselves to accomplish something.

>> No.14495655

>>14495551
gay
>>14495589
based
>>14495602
Senility - Muhammed kek

>> No.14495656

>>14495648
>accomplish something
Piss off normie

>> No.14495664

>>14495656

Found the pessimist

>> No.14495667

>>14494878
For real, that school of life vid makes him look like the core of his philosophy is refraining from alcohol and jesus

>> No.14495994

>>14494818
>Nietzsche's optimistic break
You are describing schopenhauer's ascetic detachment, not nietzsche's fedora tipping cope mechanism. Are people for real with this nonsense?