Actually philosophical movies ?

[Anonymous No.14491029]

What are some actually philosophical movies ? I.e. movies where non trivial philosophy can be found, like Terrence Malick movies which are argued to be heideggerians, I'm not talking about those hundreds of movies about utilitarism vs deontology

[Anonymous No.14491041]

[Anonymous No.14491045]

>>14491029
Good Time unironically believes in good and evil. Haven't seen Uncut Gems yet but I'm looking forward to it based on GT and daddy long legs.

[Anonymous No.14491047]

>>14491029
The Lighthouse

[Anonymous No.14491056]

>>14491029
Alphaville

[Anonymous No.14491068]

>>14491047
What was philosophical about two dudes gping crazy on a rock?

[Anonymous No.14491074]

Harold and Kumar go to white castle

[Anonymous No.14491078]

>>14491068
Literally everything.

[Anonymous No.14491091]

>>14491047
Please develop

[Anonymous No.14491108]

The Matrix is Plato's allegory of the cave

[Anonymous No.14491115]

>>14491029
This is genuinely not related to literature in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.14491147]

>>14491115
/lit/ is basically a philosophy board though

[Anonymous No.14491154]

>>14491147
Not really.

[Anonymous No.14491157]

>>14491108
stop.

[Anonymous No.14491167]

The last temptation of Christ

[Anonymous No.14491170]

>>14491115
/lit/ is still much better equipped to answer OP than /tv/

[Anonymous No.14491177]

>>14491068
It's full of mainstream feminist theory if that's what you're after

[Anonymous No.14491224]

>>14491177
How?

[Anonymous No.14491236]

>>14491170
there's anons on /tv/ with much better film recs than the average /lit/ pseud

[Anonymous No.14491250]

>>14491236
Those are rare. /tv/ is just edgy r/movies for the most part.

[Anonymous No.14491258]

>>14491029
don't watch movies for philosophy and don't post here for movies

[Anonymous No.14491269]

>>14491236
>>14491250
/tv/ does have some real kino connoisseurs but, I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this, the board is 99% shitposting about Current Year nonsense.

[Anonymous No.14491281]

Movies aren't meant to be philosophical. They're meant to dazzle and entertain. Contents can approach genuine feeling though.

[Anonymous No.14491305]

>>14491029
>the thin red line
I didn't get the point of this movie. Did Witt just decide to embrace death as being better than life or what?

[Anonymous No.14491308]

>>14491305
I didn't get the point either. So that must be really heideggerian

[Anonymous No.14491316]

>>14491224
It is essentially a leftist film about how masculinity is an artifical construct, and in a wider (more religious) sense it's a Luciferian film about how humanity fails to tame nature with higher principles.
You have the Dick (the Lighthouse, the men, the civilization, the sailor code, the "beans") and the Pussy (the stormy sea, the unstable weather, the mermaid, animals, nature). The struggle between the entropic and firm, the Feminine and Masculine. The two men's identities are revealed to be fabrications later on (and they're apparently latently gay), implying that masculinity is invented and false. Then the dude climbs the dick and the dicktip makes him insane because the lighthouse actually "works" for the sea, its civilizational dignified context is a lie.
And I didn't pull this out of my ass, Eggers and Defoe both said the film is about "toxic masculinity", and his previous film The Vvitch is also about some Luciferian mainstream feminist cringe IIRC.
The Greek mythology shit is mostly window dressing, at least I can't find a way it's linked to the main point of the film.
One very similar film to this is The Lighthouse Keepers by Jean Gremillon, which is also about two dudes going insane in a lighthouse and also about nature vs. civilization, but without the gender shit.

[Anonymous No.14491320]

>>14491029
>STALKER
>Marketa Lazarova
>Holy Mountain
>Come and See
>Funny Games
Just a couple off hand

[Anonymous No.14491324]

>>14491305
Life? He was surrounded. Even if he didn't know how Japanese treat their prisoners it's not unreasonable to see it as something that happened on the spur of the moment.
I don't think the important part of that scene or the movie is what Witt thinks, but what happens to him.

[Anonymous No.14491334]

>>14491320
I found them great except "Marketa Lazarova" which I couldn't finish

Could you elaborate on this one ?

[Anonymous No.14491336]

>>14491316
Thanks for this post.

[Anonymous No.14491343]

>>14491029
What do you even mean by that? What classifies a film as philosophical?

[Anonymous No.14491348]

>>14491029
>movies
>philosophical
The end of art is nigh.

[Anonymous No.14491351]

>>14491334
Not really honestly, its one of the hardest movies ive seen recently and I really need to rewatch it to start to form a more concrete view of it

[Anonymous No.14491352]

>>14491334
Marketa Lazarova is utterly beautiful, I think aesthetics-wise it either speaks to you or it doesn't.
It's based on a novel that's a classic of Czech literature, that eschews classic narrative in favor of aesthetics, experimentation and playing with the beauty of Czech language. The film is along the same terms, but through visual, filmic grammar.
The very first lines of the film just say that the actual story isn't that important, and this is the key to how you should view it.
There's also lots of Paganism vs. Christianity stuff that people who are more knowledgeable about the novel might know more about. It's been years since I've seen the film and I haven't read the book.

[Anonymous No.14491361]

>>14491316
This makes me like the films a little bit more. I'm not such a huge fan of eggers. But, these things you discussed are prevalent ideas that form the basis of a lot of feminist thought which drives a ton of mainstream shit in the current year. I'm glad somebody's excavating the foundational principles and putting them out there for people to think about. I don't believe the thesis of "the vvitch" and "the lighthouse" is blatantly in favor of these feminist liberationist principles, rather it presents them to the audience to chew on.

[Anonymous No.14491380]

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[jacksana No.14491380,2]

someone said uncut gems, I recommend it! gives u anxiety, but it's an extraordinary movie and adam sandler is such a good actor, not how u used to see him

[Anonymous No.14491380,5]

>>14491380,4
My friend was just looking for this information. Thanks