/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14476973]

Most /lit/ books for converting to Islam?

Also have a few questions about Jews in Islam:
1) What is the Islamic stance on the validity of the Torah currently in use by the Jews?
2) What is the Islamic stance on Jews being allowed to abandon Allah's previous commandments (keeping the Sabbath, etc)?

[Anonymous No.14476974]

>>14476973
daily reminder that muhammed was a pedophile that forced his 8 year old child bride to was the cum out of his robes

[Anonymous No.14477062]

>>14476974
Really? That’s vile. How can anyone in good conscience be a Muslim?

[Anonymous No.14477064]

>>14476973
kill yourself you stupid tranny

[Anonymous No.14477074]

>>14476973
>the Islamic stance
Might as well ask what the Christian stance on transubstantiation is.

[Anonymous No.14477085]

>>14476974
>muhammed was a pedophile
Based. Now I respect the Prophet (pbuh) even more.

[Anonymous No.14477141]

>>14476973
I'd recommend the following:

Abdal Hakim Murad
Hamza Yusuf
Malcolm X
Jeffrey Lang

But above all, a good copy of the Quran will do wonders. I also recommend some basic knowledge of Arabic.

As for your questions...
1. Muslims believe that the Torah was corrupted and altered to favor the Jews as an ethnic group, rather than have a universal message to all humanity.

2. Muslims have their own religious code (the shariah), which differs in many ways from the old jewish law. They believe that at the heart of the matter, God looks to the intentions of our actions. If you keep the Sabbath because you think you're pleasing God, this is good, because your intention was good. But if you keep the jewish law begrudgingly and out of tradition, the Quran says that people need to question tradition and judge things on their merits, not simply because their fathers worshiped these gods.

[Anonymous No.14477496]

>>14477085
More like (pubes) lmao

[Anonymous No.14477505]

>>14476974
don't act like there isn't incest or underage sex in the bible

[Anonymous No.14477532]

>>14476973
Death to ameriga

[Anonymous No.14477535]

>>14477141
>the Quran says that people need to question tradition and judge things on their merits, not simply because their fathers worshiped these gods

I seriously doubt this claim. Could you point to the passage in the quran that states this?

[Anonymous No.14477543]

>>14477535
>I seriously doubt this claim
Considering the Qur'an was being revelead in times where Arabia was pagan, that's not so hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.14477549]

>>14477141
>the Quran says that people need to question tradition and judge things on their merits, not simply because their fathers worshiped these gods.

Well Im questioning Islamic tradition, Mohammad's paedophilia, conveniently pulling verses out his ass to insure his own benefit as well as his schizophrenic hallucinatory visions he sees in his cave. How do you like them apples, Allah?

[Anonymous No.14477596]

>>14477535
that's a recurring passage in the quran. it's practically repeated ad nauseam. have you even read it? one example:
>And when it is said to them, "Follow what Allah has revealed," they say, "Rather, we will follow that which we found our fathers doing." Even though their fathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?

[Anonymous No.14477662]

>>14477505
>Implying they are set as a good example for Christians just as the Medina settlement is for Muslims

[Anonymous No.14477812]

>>14477505
>bible bad too so muhammad good
the absolute state of libs

[Anonymous No.14477816]

>>14477662
Lol. Owned. Anyone who tries to posit a false equivalence between the bible and the koran should be reflexively told this. The central figure of Christian devotion is Jesus Christ, a crucified virgin carpenter pacifist (also the son of god); the central figure in Islam is a warmongering, polygymous, merchant pedo prophet. Jesus’ character and conduct were and are impeccable by any standard of judgment, Muhammad’s is super problematic by all possible modern standards.

[Anonymous No.14477820]

>>14477549
Hello, BASED department!!!??!

[Anonymous No.14478318]

>>14477535
"And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah hath revealed and unto the messenger, they say: Enough for us is that wherein we found our fathers. What! Even though their fathers had no knowledge whatsoever, and no guidance?"

5:104

[Anonymous No.14478320]

>>14476973
why is that muslimah reading haraam texts?

[Anonymous No.14478333]

>>14477549
The Quran also says that if angels personally came down from heaven and showed you evidence, you would say "my eyes have deceived me," and still you would not believe.

You can question Islam all you want, but at a certain point it becomes impossible to show you enough evidence for the existence of a greater power. Some people simply won't believe no matter what. These are destined for doom.

[Anonymous No.14478347]

>>14478333
>The Quran also says that if angels personally came down from heaven and showed you evidence
now if only this actually happens

[Anonymous No.14478351]

>>14477816
Muhammad was just as moral as Moses, Solomon, or any other of the ancient prophets, who engaged in warfare and had more than one wife.

The difference between Jesus and Muhammad isn't just their character, but also the claims they make. Muhammad is held to a lower standard, because he never claimed to be God. The Quran itself criticizes Muhammad many times (read surah 80), while the Bible holds Jesus up as the incarnation of God. Jesus HAS to be perfect, otherwise the claim to be God would be waved away. Muhammad never claims to be perfect, but he comes as a prophet offering the message of submission, peace, and redemption in the universe's only eternal, all powerful God.

[Anonymous No.14478358]

>>14478347
When it does happen, they say "oh he just hallucinated." Or "he's lying."

[Anonymous No.14478360]

>>14478358
>When it does happen
I'm sure it will someday...

[Anonymous No.14478374]

>>14478360
There isn't a single culture in the world that doesn't have some kind of experience with a spiritual entity. How could there be such a universal claim over such large expanses of land? They all chose to come up with the same lie?

[Anonymous No.14478394]

>>14476973
There's a lot of delusional cringe shit in Islam. It looks cool when you don't examine it too closely but then when you do and you realize, oh, I'm supposed to believe that? and ignore that? and think that's good and sanctioned by God?

[Anonymous No.14478536]

>>14478394
>There's a lot of delusional cringe shit in Islam
Such as?

[Anonymous No.14478575]

>>14476974
>what? what do you mean a traditional family functions with men doing men tnhings and women doing women things?
>how can muhammad ((force)) his own wife to wash his clothes??
>this is truly disgusting,,,,!!??!

[Anonymous No.14478608]

Islam has always been the religion of indolents and bloodthirsty fanatics. The Quran is a long list of do's and don't s, only a people extremely retarded without any imagination would blow themselves up or stone people based on the arbitrary whims and blatant lligiarism of a dark ages semite warlord, who in his life was anything but noble, but in fact ordered his men to rape the wives of his defeated enemies(that's actually in the Quran). At least the Bible has stories and allegories of humanity's struggle with faith and God, but in Islam everything is sterile, devoid of a clear level headed moral compass and overall a source of fanatic blindness as it dehumanises the so called kaffir to such a level that its OK to kill them or force convert them (a rule that does not exist in Christianity explicitly). For all of the above I hope that pedophile muhhamad is roasting in hell as we speak.

[Anonymous No.14478638]

>>14478536
fuck off go beat your wife lmao

[Anonymous No.14478649]

>>14476973
Why would you want to do that? Islam is the nigger of Abrahamic religions. Jews are jews, but they're still head and shoulders above those inbred, double-digit IQ, cultureless bunch of feral animals.

[Anonymous No.14478758]

>>14478536
You're supposed to believe that Muhammad got revelations from God exempting him of the 4 wife limit, proving Aisha didn't cheat on him, allowing him to marry his adopted son's wife. All this comes from a book that is co-eternal and uncreated. The Quran has existed from the beginning of time and contains such opportunistic banalities like those. Plus there are PLENTY of retarded hadith.

Islam has admirable traditions and philosophy though. But the idea that you're going to step into a religion that makes complete sense is a yikes.

[Anonymous No.14478780]

>>14478758
>philosophy

Ripped from the Greeks, and exhausted the moment the dhimmi translation well dried up.

[Anonymous No.14478835]

>>14478780
Yeah, well, I'm thinking of guys like Ibn Arabi, and Mulla Sadra, people who would be labelled kuffar by the majority of Sunni Muslims.

[Anonymous No.14478899]

>>14478374
>They all chose to come up with the same lie?
Yes

[Anonymous No.14478942]

>>14478649
based boomer

[Anonymous No.14479598]

>>14477816
Jesus is not a pacifist

[Anonymous No.14480238]

>>14479598
‘I come not to bring peace, but a Sword...’ Ok fine. But he never does anything aggressive himself in the gospels. Besides the money-changers incident.

[Anonymous No.14480300]

>>14477505
Deflection

[Anonymous No.14480325]

>>14478649
baste