Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay? What book does explore this phenomenon?

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Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:20:39 2020 No.14461980 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?

What book does explore this phenomenon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:22:31 2020 No.14461985 >>14461980 A Confederacy of Dunces

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:22:37 2020 No.14461986 No initiation. Unironically Iron John.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:23:04 2020 No.14461993 I unironically watch every cape shit movie and I don’t give a fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:23:58 2020 No.14461998 >>14461993 Tragic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:24:05 2020 No.14462000 >>14461993 whats your top 5

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:24:38 2020 No.14462008 Lack of or weak father figures

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:25:30 2020 No.14462013

Immersion into (what are perceived as) teleologically-constructed franchise universes that disclose themselves through cycles of hype and the temporary satisfaction thereof. Maintenance of a perpetual state of frustrated desire, sustained by fantasies of enjoyment's theft by shadowy entities. Effective worship of corporations as living gods, via social media as prayer. Elimination of aversive experience from simulations.

Obsessive fandom (of the sort that results in Wookiepedia) is fueled by fantasy of total positive knowledge. Star Wars fans desire 'answers' that will provide a complete picture of the Star Wars virtual universe, so that its entire teleological design can be fully comprehended. (What are the clone wars, how did Yoda use a lightsaber, etc.) Since no such design actually exists, the point of fandom is the desiring itself. Fans do not 'actually' want these answers. It's just endless desire. And Lucasarts has gladly catered to with the endless supply of tantalizing 'Expanded Universe' materials cataloged as Wookiepedia.

It’s postmodern culture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:26:34 2020 No.14462016 >>14461993 I unironically have never seen a single cape shit movie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:26:49 2020 No.14462018 >>14461980 low iq

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:27:07 2020 No.14462021 >>14461993 ...Me too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:33:20 2020 No.14462049 File: 44 KB, 480x627, 1576781852208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14462013 Hey anon, where does fan fiction fit into this paradigm? t. autist

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:38:53 2020 No.14462073 >>14461980 Reign of quantity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:44:44 2020 No.14462106 >>14462013 God you are a fucking pseud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:52:09 2020 No.14462146 >>14461980 I want to fuck that fat girl in the mask

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:53:15 2020 No.14462155 Lack of Order in their lives. 12 rules for life: an antidote to chaos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:57:08 2020 No.14462168 While I can't speak for Star Trek fans or cosplayers. I can say that I play videogames, read fiction and watch anime because it passes the time until a natural death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:59:10 2020 No.14462178 >>14462168 >I play videogames nobody does this in 2020

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:00:20 2020 No.14462182 >>14462106 i was about to say this. that post is so lame, he has no idea what he's talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:00:43 2020 No.14462187 >>14462178 Well, I can't disagree, most games these days are just glorified movies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:01:41 2020 No.14462191 >>14462168 >I play videogames, read fiction and watch anime because it passes the time until a natural death Tragic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:02:29 2020 No.14462195 >>14462191 I know. I long for the sweet release of death, but am too much of a pussy to do anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:03:21 2020 No.14462198 >>14462187 i havent played a video game in 5 years. am i missing out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:03:44 2020 No.14462201 File: 7 KB, 227x222, 1561250319430.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 >tfw grown out of anime never thought id see the day

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:05:30 2020 No.14462206 >>14462198 Not in the least

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:06:33 2020 No.14462212 It’s their only escape from the shitty lives they probably have outside of their hobbies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:06:48 2020 No.14462213 >>14462182 You gonna jerk each other off or say something substantial?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:11:39 2020 No.14462228 >>14462106 go jerk off somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:13:50 2020 No.14462233 >>14461980 Imagine the smell

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:17:41 2020 No.14462244 >>14461980 Imagine the fucking smell

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:17:58 2020 No.14462246 >>14462049 i have no mouth and i must scream

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:20:01 2020 No.14462258 >>14461986 au contraire, it is indeed because they are initiated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:22:50 2020 No.14462274 >>14462178 Really? They seem more popular than ever

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:26:18 2020 No.14462284

>>14461980
Jungian Psychology, manchildren are normally unhealthy INTJs. Where, they use their Ni1 for escapism out of distraught from the real world, instead of using it as a vision to better the world. I have an INFJ(Ni1) girlfriend, and in INFJs it's kind of seen as cute, them fantasizing about disney characters. But the blight however is that they're more likely to tilt into sjw and twitterism. That said, Jungian Psychology can be really helpful in our society today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:34:20 2020 No.14462320 >>14461980 >it's another episode of /lit trying to be superior and justifying one activity over the other while floating on a giant rock in the middle of infinity i love it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:34:51 2020 No.14462324 >>14462274 What games?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:35:53 2020 No.14462329 >>14462284 Why do introverts always have this side to them where it seems like they are constantly anxious and just want to attack everyone?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:38:26 2020 No.14462340 >>14462178 >nobody does this Christ on ice, you are really out of touch.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:40:58 2020 No.14462355

>>14461980
They are not just 'children' minded. Children aren't just naturally drawn towards consumerism; they are just naturally curious and if they don't get enough stimulation from school/books/healthy hobbies, they will just start buying stuff.
The problem is that we are upbringing children to be mentally retarded consumerist machines.
If we educated them better, people wouldn't turn out this way.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:41:23 2020 No.14462361

>>14462198
Yes. There are tons of awesome games being pumped out each and every year.

You won't find anything as substantial or spiritually fulfilling as reading a good book, but games scratch a different type of itch-- the kind that desires a truly novel and immersive experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:45:16 2020 No.14462381 capitalism doesn't need 'adults', it needs consumers. in return they get the safety of childhood and insulation from difficulty. >>14462233 >>14462244 quad combo dubs of truth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:50:38 2020 No.14462415 >>14462198 Prey is the only recent game that genuinely interested me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:51:55 2020 No.14462423 File: 144 KB, 1125x583, BE6A044B-6B9C-4462-98E0-431C5D05F89A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:53:36 2020 No.14462426 >>14462329 Because we regularly limit ourselves by the opinions and lives of others, wich makes us resent them and vent when we hit the sweet spot of feeling coinfidence and moral superiority.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:54:28 2020 No.14462434 >>14462340 >>14462361 What games are people playing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:58:28 2020 No.14462463 >>14462198 I've played The Witcher 3 for the last 4 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 16:59:37 2020 No.14462468 >>14462463 Good game. This, gwent and civ v are the only games I have played in the last 4-5 years too. And gwent was mostly a temporal obsession.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:02:06 2020 No.14462492

>>14462329
it mainly comes from their 5 and 6 functions. In the case of the INTP, he has Te5, and Ni6. He is worried about society's intellectual future, worried about how people would forget common sense. Then, Ni6 indicates a distrust for idealization, that is, a distrust for hope, and an inclination to pessimism. That is, when an INTP is sick of trying to help change this fate of the world, trying to help other people think, they drop their Ni entirely, and become pessimistic, at this stage they tend to antagonize people, dp self destructive thing(because it doesn't matter anyway, i might as well indulge in my own feelings and pleasure(fi8)) and potentially, become destructive towards other people. It is important to keep in mind that, every person has this side to themselves. it's just that, introverts especially introverted intuitives, tend to be more disappointed in our soceity than usual.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:02:54 2020 No.14462495 >>14462355 This. These people aren't man children, they're people who are slowly trained into appetitie-ism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:03:03 2020 No.14462501 >>14462434 Battle Royale shooting games Chink Bugperson MOBA games Gambling/pay2win phone games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:22:13 2020 No.14462616 >>14461993 kys faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:42:34 2020 No.14462751 File: 476 KB, 540x540, 1577901924244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14462246 Wish I knew what you mean, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:55:12 2020 No.14462803 >>14462198 Play disco elysium. Its the most /lit/ game in last decade >>14462415 Just finished Prey its really underrated. Its got great setting, worldbuilding and fun mechanics. Story is pretty solid, but backtracking and fetching kinda killed pacing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:58:11 2020 No.14462821 >>14461980 The agricultural revolution was a mistake

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:01:21 2020 No.14462832 >>14462821 No it was intentionally designed to turn most people into sickly herd animals and it worked

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Thu Jan 2 18:06:26 2020 No.14462853 File: 64 KB, 708x800, 1524304766864.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461993

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:06:45 2020 No.14462855 File: 17 KB, 300x225, bwo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 there is no better way to become a Body Without Organs than to play GTA Online while you are worn like a glove

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:06:51 2020 No.14462856 i think there's something about having had a comfy childhood and then feeling like life has just gotten shittier and less pleasure-filled since and so it's an attempt to return to that youthful joy or something like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:07:54 2020 No.14462862 >>14461993 Based and bluepilled

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:09:43 2020 No.14462874 >>14461980 in past centuries so few children made it to adulthood, there was probably a form of natural selection going on that would have weeded out people unfit to contribute to society.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:11:36 2020 No.14462886 >>14462492 whats the word on ISTPs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:13:09 2020 No.14462897 >>14462008 >Lack of or weak father figures then why go blacks become ghetto? hmmm?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:36:40 2020 No.14463022 >>14461980 >it's fiction so it must be childish

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:58:16 2020 No.14463098
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>>14462897
they dont have the protective blanket of mumy and dady' financial support. so must learn to fend for themeselves
this is also why negroes are particularly prone to joining and forming gangs. it Provides them with a pseudo familial structure as well as father figures. in manchild's case his mom is eager to please. out of a deep sadness coz she failed so bad. so she lets him sit at home and play vidya all day while serving him tendies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:01:53 2020 No.14463115 >>14462198 Minecraft is unironically the only “video game“ worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:03:47 2020 No.14463120 >>14461980 why is wypipo so pretty?

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:10:41 2020 No.14463752
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I know a self professed manchild who watches capeshit and collects funko dolls.

He told me greek mythology and the illiad/odyssy/etc were just the capeshit and fanfiction of yesteryear, and I can't refute him.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:13:15 2020 No.14463768

>>14461980
In the past, the sheer nature of life necessitated thinking on survival.
This constant thought on how one must live to survive lead to questions of why one must live, the very nature of living, etc. The thing about living for the sake of living is that it is not only really fucking boring, but immensely pointless.

So people turned to one of two ends. Trying to find meaning by observing and pursuing the nature and meaning of life, consequently inventing philosophy, religion, etc, or they ignored that shit and indulged in shit that makes them happy to cope.

That is the nature of human thought. You either coped, tried to find meaning, or offed yourself when you realized neither worked for you.

All of what you described down to people becoming "manchildren" happens because people realized they didn't want to explore the "seeking meaning in life" end but none of the fun adult shit (see: partying, drinking, drugs, sex, etc) really did anything for them due to either social ineptitude or general dislike of the activity. They had a lot of fun in their childhood, so why not turn back? Why not make it a socially acceptable thing for adults also?

Basically, it's the bliss of ignorance, minus the self-destruction of adult indulgence. It's the ideal blue-pill lifestyle.

It's become increasingly popular to do this as mass media has become a more standard thing, particularly considering a lot of philosophy and broader thinking on life has already been done. Adding your own voice has become more like spouting shit that's already been said thousands of times to people who don't give a shit what you have to say. It feels just as meaningless as living your life just to survive.

So they enjoy themselves. They buy the products, consume the products, and wait on baited breath for more products, like the smooth brained lotus eaters they are.
That's just how it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:16:01 2020 No.14463785 >>14461980 Book of the Law, seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:24:35 2020 No.14463837 >>14463768 >In the past, the sheer nature of life necessitated thinking on survival. What about the Greeks

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:28:52 2020 No.14463855

>>14461980
I unironically believe it's the proliferation of consumerism through unrestrained capitalism, i.e. through multinational corporations for cheapened consumer goods that extends adolescent behavior. The reason it's so popular? I'm still searching for the answer. Perhaps it's the West's (the West in my definition as excluding Russia and most of Eastern Europe) progressive tradition deriving from Protestant and Quaker roots if you're going to go by Moldbug. I'm leaning towards rapid industrialization and mass immigration which caused a dysgenic shift to favor an immature, less intelligent weakened population. Watch Edward Dutton, he goes into this more thoroughly. Read some of Moldbug if you want an explanation of America's progressive tradition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:31:28 2020 No.14463871 >>14461993 I've seen all of them because my dad likes them, so I go with him. I hate every single one of them except Spider-Man 2. There's some charm to that movie. And Yes, the Dark Knight is still capeshit and I think it's shallow and stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:42:55 2020 No.14463941 >>14463855 Which works by Moldbug would you recommend?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Thu Jan 2 21:48:49 2020 No.14463971 File: 46 KB, 500x282, Capitalism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 >Why do

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:49:20 2020 No.14463973 File: 77 KB, 280x360, 1566209417709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Why do people like things that I don't? Gee, I don't know, what a mystery this is!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 22:56:19 2020 No.14464253 >>14463941 I'm on An Open Letter to Open Minded Progressives and it's a good introduction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 23:04:24 2020 No.14464291 >>14462198 Yes if you have friends, not really except for 3 single player games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 23:04:43 2020 No.14464293 the internet self-reinforces their behavior. without it they would find it difficult to not be adults in the closet about their fandom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 02:37:24 2020 No.14465009 >>14461980

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:07:45 2020 No.14465369 >>14461980

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:19:59 2020 No.14465396 >>14461993 >and I don’t give a fuck Mindnumbedness and seething untermensch rejection/negation is not something to be proud of given that 99.9% of the proles around you have the same reaction and mentality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:23:55 2020 No.14465402 >>14462016 Think I saw them as a kid but can't remember anything. Watched Venom recently. Pretty shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:28:08 2020 No.14465412 >>14462434 why Crusader Kings 2 of course!

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:28:47 2020 No.14465413

>>14462106
>>14462182
He's right. Take the original Star Wars movies. Literally nothing there in terms of lore, could go pretty much anywhere. Gets lore added everytime a new product set in it is made. This lore is from multiple sources and a lot of it is basically canonised fan lore (and later decanonised lmao). It has no coherent world because it's just random shit thrown together that fans think is cool. There's no mind behind it, bringing it coherency. It's completely fucking meaningless. Like gibberish played endlessly.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:36:36 2020 No.14465425

I get porn video games phone jpg gambling capeshit cloakshit starshit and all that trash. But I don't get funko pops. They're just so ugly. If you're gonna be a degenerate toy collector, why not at least collect aesthetically pleasing toys, like jap little girl figurines and gunpla?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:39:43 2020 No.14465429 >>14461993 Capeshit wouldn't be as reviled if it wasn't so samey. Watching capeshit movies has diminishing returns. After the 12th Avengers variation with the exact same premise, setup and finale, the whole thing starts grinding on your nerves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:45:23 2020 No.14465443 >>14465413 >just random shit thrown together that fans think is cool How does >>14462013 anon's argument explain the appeal of being "cool"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 05:48:48 2020 No.14465451 >>14463752 Religion is basically capeshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 06:26:38 2020 No.14465544 >>14465425 Isn’t a Funk Pop cheap compared to those Japanese figurines?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 06:41:08 2020 No.14465582 >>14463768 >t. never been outside for more than an hour

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 06:48:42 2020 No.14465594

>>14461980
>>14462856
No, it's about interacting with people that aren't judgmental and aren't indoctrinated into the modern cult of "maturity" to the point where it warps their personality.
>Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?
Do they have a job or go to school? Then they already contribute to society and you have no business giving them shit for what they consume in their free time. Everybody has their own preferences for unwinding after doing a task and some people simply don't want another batch of work (attention demanding literature for example) during the time they'd rather shut their brains off.
>inb4 reddit
You know I'm right faggots. All of this nonsense is just your projected crypto-spite against the normie boogeyman, which you falsely blame for your own shortcomings in your past social life.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 07:05:20 2020 No.14465641

Imo not all of these are like the other. Although I could be projecting here.

I play fighting games somewhat competitively, which means I travel internationally to events to compete for money. To me the only thing that seperates it from chess at a higher level or any other competitive endeavour is simply perception (which is gradually changing when prize pools are now higher than some of the more conceived intellectual competitions)

Its not the only hobby I have. But I enjoy it a lot and I would admit that it has eaten into my more 'intellectual' pursuits which were reading and maths growing up.

I do have a wife and a career though. So I think instead of blanket terming people who enjoy some of these things as a manbaby. Might be better to look at things more contextually. As they're always more subtle in reality.

If you've never given star trek next gen a chance. I'd recommend it. Very well written too.
I mean I could go on here. My point I guess is passion and interest don't always correlate with being a manbaby. Plenty of things I do outside of these hobbies they'd be considered real man shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 08:18:45 2020 No.14465873 >>14461980 Lack of a father figure to initiate them in the male adult life. Entertainment is a profane thing taken as sacred.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:11:07 2020 No.14466887 File: 50 KB, 620x387, maths_2344088b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does watching anime and manga make me a bug man? That is the only form of "low" entertainment that I enjoy, you can't take this from me, fags. El Psy Congoro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:12:44 2020 No.14466891 >I dunno guys I play games and I'm not a manchild Yes you are. Yes you are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:13:50 2020 No.14466895 File: 91 KB, 688x980, b12e45563d62692624a8077321d661f6b6080b6069e8c34ca619866fc7e22c90_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14466887 Yes, it does. You must escape bugworld.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » oI3er5KKetj Fri Jan 3 13:14:04 2020 No.14466897 >>14461980 Counter-iniatiatic Lacking perennial tradition Slow Wololo spam rates

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:17:55 2020 No.14466910 >>14466897 >Counter-iniatiatic You can't just make stuff up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:25:49 2020 No.14466933 >>14462434 Chess, poker, melee, sometimes pokemon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:31:36 2020 No.14466962 >>14465641 Having an actual competitive drive separates you from these guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 13:35:38 2020 No.14466988 >>14465641 Every word of that was bugman as fuck. >I play big boy games but I MAKE MONEY >I have a WIFE! a-and a career! >But I'm still an intellectual Consoomer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:16:45 2020 No.14467221 >>14465413 Star Trek made their own lore by making seasons 2 and 3 of the Original Series, and the countless movies and sequel series.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:17:47 2020 No.14467229 >>14462434 Chess, NBA 2k, and MLB the Show. The latter 2 are bad, but addicting. I'm going to sell my playstation soon.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » oI3er5KKetj Fri Jan 3 14:22:12 2020 No.14467251 >>14466910 Read Guenon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:31:00 2020 No.14467298 >>14465641 Ok DSP. You actually are fucking garbage at games and melee is the worst smash and people only like it because you can have super fast movement glitches

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:44:37 2020 No.14467380 >>14461993 you unironically need to kys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:49:16 2020 No.14467401 File: 514 KB, 634x634, eaep.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14462201 >never got into anime I am truly a god among men

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:54:50 2020 No.14467430 >>14461985 Such a good book

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:04:16 2020 No.14467477

>>14462198
>>14462206
>>14462361
>>14462415
>>14462434
>>14462463
>>14462501
>>14462803
>>14463115
play disco elysium for a kino literary experience if you cant yet appreciate that the art of the video game is the gameplay mechanics that facilitate a dialectic of interactivity and lead toward an end realized in the mind of the player

graphics, writing, and narrative content are all important to sensifying, contextualizing and directing the subjective player-narrative, but without gameplay mechanics a video game becomes either a visual novel / film, or an instance of technology, devoid of artistry

for good games in the sense talked about here, there are too many to list. now that i think about it, though, it seems several prominent ones among them are all developed outside the us

disco elysium is brilliant because of, among other things, the skill-dialogue mechanic, combined with pretty good writing, if a bit elevated at times

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:10:38 2020 No.14467514
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>be kid
>parents keep kid alive and decently comfortable
>past that, kid's parents completely clueless
>don't know how to gradually acclimate kid to things like responsibility and discipline or teach them to appreciate delayed gratification
>kid's life is largely on autopilot, so kid can only express autonomy and make decisions with inconsequential things
>kid only cares about what toys he plays with, what media he consumes, what merchandise he collects, what he does to recreate, etc. since he can't identify with anything else as his existence outside these realms are completely controlled by his parents
>this goes on for years, kid thoroughly entrenched in this lifestyle
>all at once, kid suddenly realizes he's now considered an independent adult by society, he might not have guaranteed comfort like before, and he's feeling sudden extreme pressure to perform at a level of competence never previously expected of him with no idea how
>often with support from others, kid manages to get themselves to a level of functionality to keep themselves alive and comfortable just like before
>kid still identifies with his inconsequential comfort objects of the past while feeling disconnected from the 'adult' world due to his psychological immaturity
>ends up working as little as possible and spending money like a child would while not voluntarily doing anything they would prefer not to
>kid is now turning 30, has no savings, works a job that requires a nametag, is somewhere in between fat and skinnyfat, unkempt hair and bad hygiene, personality is underdeveloped to the point of being nearly nonexistent, and all romantic prospects are in the same position if not worse
>any thought about life inevitably leads to contemplating the meaninglessness of his own, which results in gradually increasing anxiety and depression
>free time is spent obsessively searching for thoughtless distractions until he becomes desperate enough that the trailer for a new star wars movie makes him cry with joy
>aggregates with other people similarly stunted who take turns reassuring each other that their love of young adult novel film adaptations and randomized monthly pop culture memorabilia boxes are real hobbies just as valid as carpentry or metalworking or gardening or fucking anything jesus christ learn how to do fucking something oh my god

at least this is the pattern I've noticed

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:15:02 2020 No.14467539 >>14467514 Concise and based.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:28:18 2020 No.14467603 >>14467514 Damn, some of that hit a bit too close to home. Based.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:37:53 2020 No.14467664 >>14467514 I don't know what the fuck is wrong with parenting these days. Boomers seem to have just given up and put no effort into it. Is it any wonder that things have turned out like this?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:58:24 2020 No.14467809 >>14467514 Lazy boomer parents. Cold distant mothers and soft fathers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:08:42 2020 No.14467866 >>14461980 >why do people do things that aren't solely materialistic t. Seething commie materialist

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:24:23 2020 No.14467941

>>14463752
He’s wrong though. Those mythologies were the building blocks of western moral systems and thought that founded the field of communication and led to the spread of philosophy and writing. They were not created as a sellable product. There is absolutely no comparison.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:30:09 2020 No.14467968 >>14467514 Well put. The internet and its consequences are an absolute disaster for the human race.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:31:50 2020 No.14467976 File: 135 KB, 1016x1488, Sepik_River_initiation_PNG_1975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lack of violent initiation rites into manhood.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:33:42 2020 No.14467988 >>14461980 What is the point of funko pops figurines? They seems like epitome of basedboy bugman meme, but maybe they are collectioner investment, like they will ever grow in worth?

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:39:08 2020 No.14468014

Being a manchild is pleasurable and comfortable. It's not like people in the past matured the way they did because they wanted, it was demanded of them thanks to a specific social and economic situation that doesn't exist anymore. The worship of "real masculinity" is just a cargo cult at this point.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:41:07 2020 No.14468021

Male children are not meant to be raised by women past the age of 10 or whatever.
In pre-1950 society a male child would start to work with his father and other males the moment he'd be able to do so.

Nowadays male children have no male adult in their lives. The father works all day and when he doesn't waste his time in hedonistic selfish hobbies to deal with the stress of being an old wageslave.
In schools almost all teachers are female and the few male teachers are most often than not effeminate males.

In a more general prospective the issue is that of excessive freedom, lack of social cohesion and responsibility, lack of discipline, lack of physical punishment, attempting to raise male and females the same way, feminism in general, liberalism.

Things went to irreversible shit the moment the US won WW2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 16:42:30 2020 No.14468028 >>14467941 I'm sure the bards that wrote the ballads and epic that served as the basis of those mythologies were paid for it by whatever court they played for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:00:45 2020 No.14468125 >>14466895 Noonpilled

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:02:40 2020 No.14468136 File: 39 KB, 600x405, wwii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14468021 Ah, yes, the Traditional American society. >the US won WW2 Anon, please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:06:05 2020 No.14468157 >>14462073 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:21:44 2020 No.14468246 File: 8 KB, 214x236, 175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14467477 Baste. It has better writing than 99,9% of trash that gets published today

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:25:26 2020 No.14468274 File: 12 KB, 478x523, 1513317451150.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14467866 uhhh, everything in the OP is materialism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:26:31 2020 No.14468283 >>14467976 is this an initiation or a ritual sacrifice?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:34:13 2020 No.14468342 >>14465641 absolute cope

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:35:10 2020 No.14468349
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>>14468283
initiations are based on the principle that you socially and psychologically kill the initiates and make them reborn to their new status. they are a form of sacrifice offered, not to gods, but to society, where the goods you got in return are the "new" members.

initiations are usually pretty gory and painful anyway. they need to mark the process in an irreversible way to fix the whole social structure and the particular role in the minds and bodies of those who pass though them.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:47:53 2020 No.14468452

>>14467514
Oh my God. A heavy amount of this stuff hit home. What do I do? Am I stuck being this way? I can only converse about shit like comics and videogames. Sheltered my whole life. 'Raised' by single mother. Conversations about anything else are extremely awkward. Only ever had sex with women who are undiagnosed with mental illnesses of some sort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:48:06 2020 No.14468455 >>14468028 The bards didn't write the ballads They just memorised it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:50:47 2020 No.14468472 File: 43 KB, 320x320, 1448238318566.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461993 Yeah I'm thinking this is based, keep dabbing on cringe and bluepilled bookcels

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:55:15 2020 No.14468490

>>14461980
Because all of those things, on some level, satisfy a lot of our deep urges, such as adventure, comradeship, romance and talent.
And playing some shitty video game is much easier than spending years of training and going off to join to foreign legion, or something like that.
this is the same reason that most of us go on 4channel and read books!

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:21:32 2020 No.14468643
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>>14461980
>>14468490
>parents were based enough to never let me play video games as a kid
>put me outside in my backyard or in the woods instead
>grew up hiking, reading, and swimming in the lake near our house either by myself or with neighbor kids instead
>get older and play video games socially, or just occasionally when over friend’s houses but it always felt like a waste of time
>survive a case of severe malpractice in my late teens but manage to recover
>fuck it, life is too short so I move out west and become a backpacking and mountaineering guide
>live out in the deserts and forests of the southwest teaching people how to navigate and find water for a living
>do that for a while and then go back to uni to finish the degree I started before I got sick
>make a few new friends
>meet a shitload of pale thin-haired bugmen and all they talk about is all this franchise shit and video games
>”haha that’s crazy anon you had to go to New Hampshire to get your wilderness medical certification? It’s like you had to do a side-quest first to go in there main mission!”
>”hahaha anon you’re just like Gerald from The Witcher!”
>”lol xD nice backpacking photo bro what are you, Sam from Death Stranding?”
>”lmao nigga what are you an RPG character?”

I don’t get it. I don’t fucking get it how you can sit on your ass and move buttons to feel excitement and joy like that. There’s no sensation in your heart or texture or smell or anything resembling real life. It’s so alien and empty to me. Video games are nothing more than achievement simulators, and it’s fucking unsettling how the first referential point in the bugman’s brain to encountering an object in reality they are unfamiliar with, or something that interacts with actual wilderness is to reference said object to a game. “Anon goes outside” = “fictional character from vidya who also goes outside.” We’ve domesticated ourselves and fiction has become the reference point for the rest of the world. I’m talking to a friend who asked me about what I did as a guide and he interrupts me halfway through and says “yeah well anon they do skemthing similar in Final Fantast 14...” as if they are equitable experienced, and all I want to do is fucking punch him in the face, it’s absolutely disgusting.

What’s crazy is that I keep all of this sentiment to myself. I don’t talk about the things I do or have done unless asked or if it’s brought up in conversation so it’s not like I’m some Coyote Peterson autist or something bragging about what I know and where I’ve been. People especially in a university environment on the east coast think you’re strange if you’ve done these types of things, if you know how to change a tire or cook a camp meal, or use a compass and map, or read the weather. Things all mankind used to know, swallowed up by the consequences of the Internet. It’s truly terrible. Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:41:28 2020 No.14468751 >>14468452 Read more. Think about contemporary issues, develop your opinions. Lift if you don't already. Alcohol and weed are okay at parties but in moderation; never consume them by yourself.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:45:03 2020 No.14468778

>>14465594
So, you work in order to consume? That's quite a pathetic and unfulfilling existence. Also, I hardly consider working a 9-5 or going to school contributing to society, especially when all you're doing is maintaining the managerial neoliberal system that's rotting from the inside out. It's not like you see these manchild consoomers doing volunteer work, getting involved in local politics, or being active in their local community in any meaningful way.
>Everybody has their own preferences for unwinding after doing a task and some people simply don't want another batch of work (attention demanding literature for example) during the time they'd rather shut their brains off.
cringe and philistinepilled
>You know I'm right faggots. All of this nonsense is just your projected crypto-spite against the normie boogeyman, which you falsely blame for your own shortcomings in your past social life.
no u

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:51:36 2020 No.14468804

>>14468643
If you are quoting verbatim, god save your soul and whatever shitty university you attend. I'd also like to point out that
>fiction has become the reference point for the rest of the world
is not a new sentiment and is probably noted in Auerbach's "Mimesis"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:59:32 2020 No.14468837 >>14463768 damn, this sounds like the pozzed mind of a druggie college dropout. get off the chans and learn to think, please

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 19:17:25 2020 No.14468918 >>14468751 Thank you, anon

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 19:21:10 2020 No.14468939
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you are all worse than your clueless parents. whining about the lack of guidance from people who themselves lacked guidance is pointless.

industry breaks the collective life that used to be at the base of all human groups. what is needed is not a patch to keep a deformed collective life but a shift that assumes the industrial rupture and consciously devises a new form of human adaptation that fits the industrial world.

the current world is the process of that transition, but every one of you whining is a force pulling it back, keeping it stuck in the hope that the old world comes back. but that world is gone forever... until we openly accept that fact and renounce to the spontaneous way of human life by replacing it with a self-conscious one that fits the new world, we will continue this modern savagery where anything goes as long as one manages to find a way to get away with it...

being civilized is not living surrounded by technology but being properly adapted to one's environment. the current chaos stems from the fact that we live in an industrial world while keeping a tribal mentality of which we are not even aware of, because we pass our lives clothing it with industrial junk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 19:22:10 2020 No.14468942 >>14468643 its dopeamine release, like sex, focusing on a new unfamilliar task or gambling

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 19:28:00 2020 No.14468973

>>14468643
>on the east coast
thats your problem, useless coastal/metro people
Im a degenerate media consumer and can still change a tire, start a fire, keep warm, read a map, find where north is without thinking about it, where I live if you stay outside without preparation this time of year you die within an hour

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 19:47:59 2020 No.14469085 >>14467514 he is married and looks happy seethe harder

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 20:11:16 2020 No.14469196 >>14461980 >What book does explore this phenomenon? would you really read unironically such a book?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 20:41:30 2020 No.14469357 I dont care what anyone says Fronthe gameboy, DS, pokemon toy, etc etc absolutely nothing in that lic compares to the cringe of wearing a gas mask outside of its purpose where do (white) people even GET the idea that its an aesthetic to chase after

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 20:44:52 2020 No.14469373 >>14462201 Same I haven't watched a new anime series in a year, maybe longer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 20:59:14 2020 No.14469443 >>14469196 of course not >what book.........? is just the shitposter's tag to get past jannies. honestly fuckin tired of it, fags should go back to /b/

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:00:41 2020 No.14470032

>>14466988
I'll admit I do consume more than I used too. I was absolutely more idealistic when I was younger, but that's cause I was in Uni and I was broke. Aren't you consuming content right now? You definately aren't creating anything meaningful with this post. Pls enlighten me on how you don't consume. Unless you're broke.

You're response is more bugman than my explaination.

>>14465641
Maybe it is cope. Hence why I posted it. Looking for. Or maybe your copy and pasted response of 'cope' 'mandchild' 'seethe' is its own coping mechanism for whatever insecurities you have for attacking people that don't fit your paradigm.

>>14467298
Actually its Tekken not smash. Never really played a smash game if I'm honest.

>>14465594
This guy gets it. I'd be interested to meet such people irl who thinks that anyone who 'consooms' manbaby content is deemed unworthy or should be looked down upon when they're literally consooming and posting on an anime image sharing board themselves. You're dealing with caricatures guys. Most people who enjoy these things within limited amounts are perfectly functional humans.

>>inb4 cope

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:04:38 2020 No.14470047 File: 89 KB, 507x696, b2ca52a77b2367df042cce59f74f72e2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14465594 >work, sleep, unwind with brain shut off Do you honestly think we were meant to live like that? Anon that sounds like hell.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:06:58 2020 No.14470059

>>14461980
>Why do people become manchildren?
They have low IQs but value intellectualism/"I fucking love science!" but because they have low IQs, they can't actually study mathematics and physics and history and philosophy, so they study the fake physics and fake easy to understand history and philosophy of fantasy and sci fi stories.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:14:53 2020 No.14470091

>>14461980
As someone who hates anime, hardly ever plays video games anymore, and has never watched Star Trek or cosplayed, I don't see much issue with enjoying some light entertainment here or there. It only becomes a problem when it becomes an obsession and starts ruling people's lives. You have to be quite the egotist to think you're better than someone just because they enjoyed a sci-fi movie or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:44:55 2020 No.14470210 File: 269 KB, 800x600, soy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 And yet, on the other side of the manchild coin you have this...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 23:58:55 2020 No.14470257 >>14470210 t. brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:06:03 2020 No.14470289 File: 2.35 MB, 480x320, 40D72C74-897E-4D6C-AA82-D4F821023858.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461993 gay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:07:24 2020 No.14470295 >>14470289 Salsa

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:10:28 2020 No.14470310 >>14469357 >wearing a gas mask outside of its purpose Not even as fetish wear or a gasmask bong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:12:02 2020 No.14470311 >>14462016 There have been some good capeshit movies. Nolan's Batman trilogy and Joker come to mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:13:07 2020 No.14470315 >>14461980 Because they enjoy fun and not being an unfuckable pedant?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:20:26 2020 No.14470340 >>14470210 Hey fuck you Kanopy is fantastic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:21:13 2020 No.14470345 >>14461980 Because every healthy civilization has disliked Jews and used them as punching bags rather than giving them positions of power. A Jew exists to be dismembered, not given powerful positions in society.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:35:57 2020 No.14470404

>>14470032
>Aren't you consuming content right now? You definately aren't creating anything meaningful with this post. Pls enlighten me on how you don't consume. Unless you're broke.
Holy fuck, how fucking pedantic and predictable lol. It's like you bugmen are reading off a script whenever someone questions the validation of your vapid "hobby" so you resort to whataboutism, because you can't think of a legitimate reason to defend it.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 00:54:14 2020 No.14470456

>>14470404
Didn't answer my question though. Pls enlighten my so I can transend my bugman status and be an unbermensch so as yourself.

I do have other hobbies and pursuits outside of what your conceive as 'manbaby' but if I listed them all out I'd assume you'd consider you retort with 'larp'

Also I never said any of my hobbies were outside of criticisms btw. My point was you can actually have these hobbies and not be a complete loser or be devoid of masculine traits (which I assume is what you conceive as the opposite of being a manchild)

Go ahead. Let me know what life can be outside of the 'consoomer' mindset.

Your literal argument against my hobbies is that i'm a bugman. I've given my points. I'm a functioning member of my society. Do you have any retort other than I'm a 'bugman'? Sounds like a weak argument to me desu.

Most hobbies are vapid to some extent. Again i'll wait to hear yours. Bonus points if you don't use tired ass memes such as bugman/manchild/cope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:06:31 2020 No.14470493 >>14470210 you are a literal moron

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:30:12 2020 No.14470604 >>14470210 I don't know any of this shit. God, I love being non-American.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:33:43 2020 No.14470628 There is only capital.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:34:23 2020 No.14470632 >>14470604 Where are you from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:38:51 2020 No.14470657 >>14470604 You've never heard of books or library cards or tea you fucking idiot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:46:57 2020 No.14470690 >>14463973 The question posed was why are the people who like these things autistic beta faggots. OP could very well like some of the things the man-children enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:52:34 2020 No.14470724 >>14462492 >>14462284 What book of his should I read to learn more about this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:56:30 2020 No.14470739 >>14466895 lmao do people actually try to follow the shit in this pic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 01:57:38 2020 No.14470744 >>14461980 Numb to a banal reality. There is no risk to life any more, only safety. The only stakes they can put up without being outright illogical or insane are those constructed in fiction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:11:52 2020 No.14470808 >>14461980 Manchild here, I just do whatever seems fun and interesting in the moment because nothing else has meaning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:21:38 2020 No.14470840 >>14462198 >>14462434 the only games worth playing are the ones FromSoftware makes nothing else

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:22:47 2020 No.14470844 >>14461980 You DO know what website you're on, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:23:57 2020 No.14470849 >>14470724 seconding this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:26:00 2020 No.14470856 I don't know why but I'm growing out of my dislike for videogames. I think I gave up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 02:29:48 2020 No.14470873 >>14461980 https://youtu.be/r8uhcRK1QKU he unironically explains it really well somewhere halfway through the video

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 03:35:03 2020 No.14471193

>>14468643
>>fuck it, life is too short so I move out west and become a backpacking and mountaineering guide
>>live out in the deserts and forests of the southwest teaching people how to navigate and find water for a living

I'm in really good shape, but I have 40k of debt and don't know anything about the outdoors. However, I can very happily live on peanut butter sandwiches, frozen veggies and hardboiled eggs indefinitely. How do I go learn survival skills then make money off them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 03:43:28 2020 No.14471216 >>14470311 holy kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 04:05:49 2020 No.14471275 >>14470739 People who are good will naturally do this shit. Trying to specifically go out of your way just to do this stuff to fit the image of a 'meaningful person' is lame though, even if it is beneficial to your health.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 04:20:41 2020 No.14471308

>>14468643
I understand where you are coming from. You are right to be somewhat disturbed by these particular kinds of people, who relate to the world through videogames and constantly have to make specific references to them because they somehow see them as being more primary to their experience than the actual things they might encounter. But at the same time I feel I have to defend games because their value lies in offering experiences that aren't possible and have no analogue in real life, rather being achievement simulators that substitute for other most substantial things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 04:28:05 2020 No.14471326 >>14461980 If everyone did the things on your list the would would be a much better place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 04:45:16 2020 No.14471385 >>14469085 You're fat, aren't you? Loser.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 04:49:04 2020 No.14471394 >>14461980 another hipster thread hating whatever is popular

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sat Jan 4 04:52:22 2020 No.14471400 >>14471394 Popular things are gay. You are gay. Therefore, you are popular. The premises are true, but the conclusion is false. Why is this? Can you name the formal fallacy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:13:54 2020 No.14471454 >>14466897 Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:21:48 2020 No.14471477 >>14461980 I don't see any books there.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:32:28 2020 No.14471513

>>14462492
nice pseudoscience

>>14470724
>>14470849
if you want to learn about astrology for men you are welcome to socionics and "jungian" psychology, and then your mind is open for even deeper bullshit like neuro-linguistic programming. Good luck on your way to the real truth.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:41:33 2020 No.14471541

>>14471394
you won't believe how popular are retards like you coping that people attack their shitty money-grabbing culture. Pessimistic fucks or unironical lovers of degradation and cancer. Boo-hoo, just leave us alone and let our cancer spread. How dare you hate us and speak for it publicly. Just be like the rest of us and put your tongue in your ass because you must tolerate our opinions and taste, wack-wack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:41:36 2020 No.14471542 >>14465396 >not something to be proud of given that 99.9% of the proles around you have the same reaction and mentality. you soo special vainboi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 10:03:23 2020 No.14472367 >>14468837 Did he hurt you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 10:29:40 2020 No.14472481 >>14470724 >>14470849 "Psychological types" is Jung's main work on all this stuff.

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 10:39:10 2020 No.14472516
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>>14468973
You know what I love? Any display of competency is greeted with an extreme passive aggression disguised as humor. If you know how to do a physical task regularly assigned to a tradesman or technician instead of simply hiring someone else to do it for you, the bugman will laugh and talk about how “manly” you are. Self-reliance is looked upon with fear by many of these people who subconsciously understand that they have never tried to achieve independence for themselves. For fucksake people need to read some Aldo Leopold or Sigurd Olson and get their shit on straight.

>>14471193
The internet and the library are your friends. Start in a civilized area or a city where you can’t die from hunger, exposure, or thirst, and teach yourself orienteering. Parks are great for this and once you understand the basics you can set up a course for yourself. YouTube helped me with this. Other than that, go and obtain a Wilderness First Responder certification. It’s the keycard you need to get into any outdoor guiding job or internship. Actual water-finding takes experience and skill developed with people who know what they’re doing, and understanding topography and how to locate yourself within it is an exercise in mindfulness. Lots of outdoor rec organizations will house and feed you for free in exchange for logistical support and manual labor, and these positions are often described as internships. Organizations like NOLS run these. In that position you can learn from their guides, go hiking with them and gradually transition into actual mountaineering fieldwork. Start going out on your own and document in a spreadsheet what you traverse, climb, etc, and learn about expedition zoning and permitting procedures I. The areas you want to operate in, and people will take you more seriously when you want to take their clients out into the middle of nowhere.

>>14471308
I’m not saying that people shouldn’t play video games at all, everything is fine in moderation. But when they replace what real life provides for us in spades, it’s time to stop the psychological masturbation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 10:43:00 2020 No.14472534 >>14462381 underrated truth

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 10:43:24 2020 No.14472537 >>14472481 cheers luv

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 11:32:38 2020 No.14472771 >>14462168 baste

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 14:23:21 2020 No.14473706 >>14461980 What a disgusting image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 14:23:40 2020 No.14473708 >>14462198 just bloodborne and hollow knight

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 14:57:15 2020 No.14473862 >>14468939 Only intelligent post in this thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 14:58:08 2020 No.14473870 >>14472481 ty

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 15:02:33 2020 No.14473897 >>14461980 The Bible

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 15:22:34 2020 No.14473989

>>14468452
Nah dude you'll be okay, as long as you're not in denial the problem is very fixable. Unironically start cleaning up your room, start lifting, and develop some sort of marketable skill in a field you can find some passion in. Seriously, being a plumber or electrition isn't glamorous but skilled trade work is infinitely more fulfilling than collecting comic books.

Developing a skill improves your confidence, confidence makes you more open to developing new skills. It's a positive feedback loop that you just need a little effort to jumpstart.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 15:29:36 2020 No.14474044 >>14461980 Where was this pic taken? I think I know one of the guys are the back, lol >Inb4 >Haven't owned a console in years

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 15:47:50 2020 No.14474173 File: 37 KB, 474x567, 318271da980706f7a18a811c3456a77d--protective-dogs-friendship.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 >NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE THINGS WITH DIFFERENT TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 18:22:26 2020 No.14475052 >>14468136 >french poll not sure we should be concerned with what a bunch of pussies that got literally btfo think, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 21:42:43 2020 No.14476178 File: 17 KB, 400x400, y pipo smiling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14474173 You literally can't dude. Try watching some romantic comedy made for bored middle aged housewives/wine aunts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 00:46:30 2020 No.14477067 >>14461980 Why do some people become self-despising, arrogant pricks? Why do they insist that everything that isn't one of their masochistic pursuits is even worse than a waste of time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 01:01:10 2020 No.14477114 File: 74 KB, 1024x538, Friedrich-Nietzsche-Quote-2-1024x538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14468452 read mr mustache. Those who had no father must make one of their own.

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 01:27:36 2020 No.14477210

>>14461980
>What book does explore this phenomenon?
Psychology, biology, economics, and cultural theory.
My theory is that the proverbial "NEET" lifestyle is conditioned by all of these factors. Think of the lower economic standards preventing one from pursuing higher education. The american "high school" grades are of course not to be confused with higher education.
Think of personalized advertising campaigns that target this demographic.
Think of an entire generation of bastard children raised between two households and thus never being able to understand the value of commitment in personal relations.
Think of an entire generation raised on hot pockets and microwave boritos. It's often all to easy to not consider the effect of poor diet in combination with sedentary lifestyle.
Sometimes I wonder if free will even plays a role in this kind of development. One can "choose" to be lazy, but they can't choose where they were born or how they were raised.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 01:29:00 2020 No.14477217 We are at the end of a civilization. It doesn't matter what we do. YOLO

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 02:42:15 2020 No.14477460 >>14470295 Pretty sure I’m too late on this but SHIRATO SAKI

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 03:03:34 2020 No.14477513 >>14467477 That shit was boring af

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 03:26:25 2020 No.14477572 >>14471400 kek'd

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 03:29:43 2020 No.14477584 >>14461980 outlaw every vestige of manhood, prolong childhood into university and all you are left with are childlike wagies

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 04:33:44 2020 No.14477693

>>14477584
So, back to the medieval caste system of malnourished serfs with atrophied will toiling around their owners' high-rise castles of glass and steel. Wait, did we ever once ventured outside this caste system at all? Or did the plebs just got some shiny toys and had their Saint Whatevergunda rebranded into Rey?
I seem to remember that before television, the plebs just went to smash their brains out on cheap booze and go abuse their wife and kids, while being malnourished skinnyfats themselves. You don't exactly get fit and lit from toiling at the factory or in the fields.
Think of this guy >>14472516, for all intents and purposes he is basically a medieval jaegar. A specialist on orienteering and scouting the wastes. How many of them do you think there ever were relative to the rest of the populace? One out of several thousand? An overabundance of jaegers would quickly lead to wood bandits robbing merchants and pilgrims until some cavalry rides in to impale the fuckers on the local lord's front yard, I presume. And that jaeger would have literally the same shit conversing with serfs deadly afraid to ventury innawoods full of literal pack carnivores, because they were toiling in the fields 50% of their time while getting smashed on booze and games the rest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 04:48:52 2020 No.14477730 >>14477693 Maybe you right... Warrior/priest/king/merchant stil works but the 80% are still plebeians

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 05:09:00 2020 No.14477764 >>14462198 bloodborne, nier automata, hollow knight and replay shadow of the colossus, that's it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 05:25:43 2020 No.14477794 >>14477114 Any specific books?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 05:35:21 2020 No.14477818 >>14471513 based and szasz-pilled

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 06:11:58 2020 No.14477901 >>14470210 Books and BBC is based fuck you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 06:12:50 2020 No.14477902 >>14470873 Based.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 06:15:20 2020 No.14477914 >>14477794 All of them, but first start with the Greeks and the Bible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 06:42:24 2020 No.14477997 File: 211 KB, 500x500, 1573933657515.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he doesn't watch anime in between dissecting chapters of Capital with his bros You're never going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 06:53:42 2020 No.14478020 >>14461980 >Why do people do things that are fun?! I DON'T GET ITTTT

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 07:45:39 2020 No.14478196 >>14472516 Can't I just learn how to code? Why learn to live outside and hunt animals?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 07:57:42 2020 No.14478244 >>14467477 >play disco elysium for a kino literary experience shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 08:05:51 2020 No.14478269 >>14478020 >>Why do people do things that are fun?! There's having fun, then there's building your entire persona around the consumption of pop culture. Then again you're probably from /v/ so this will fall on deaf ears.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 08:10:39 2020 No.14478281 >>14478269 So it's better to create our own persona out of reading philosophy written by dead white West-European men?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 08:31:08 2020 No.14478353 Thinking of becoming a manchild and only consume media for immediate reward and escapism. I don't think reading books for anything else enhanced my life in any way. Change my mind please.

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 08:53:55 2020 No.14478427

>>14461980
Before everyone had screens in their faces, they used to socialize. They would use bowling leagues, talking to their neighbors, clubs, groups, lodges, and friends 'dropping in' without notice as ways to pass the time. This made them more attuned to adult society when they were still young adults. The boomers were the first quit social involvement. They are mostly grandparents now. So adult society is over. Even if you try, everyone else is on their tv or phone. Nobody is bored enough to socialize.

With that said, before anyone criticizes the people in OPs pic, you have to ask yourself: do I have as many friends as them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 11:58:29 2020 No.14479264 >>14478196 Why not both?

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 14:52:36 2020 No.14480323

>why do people become manchildren?
To escape the big empty. To have distractions that can continue to be fueled due to new media constantly being put out.

I stopped watching any type of movie, show, audiovisual media in general. Stopped playing videogames mostly because the genre I enjoy is no longer financially viable/popular to make.

I read what I am interested in but it strays far from main stream most of the time in terms of fiction. Spend most of my time with technical non fiction however

I lost interest in so many things as I got older.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 17:46:57 2020 No.14481241 >>14463098 How does the manchild become a man worthy of a woman and develop psychological and emotional maturity more than a toddler if he is already feeding clothing driving working and renting a place for himself?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 17:53:32 2020 No.14481281 File: 214 KB, 371x379, mask.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 is she wearing a mask bc of the smell?

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 18:08:51 2020 No.14481373
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>>14467514
>>free time is spent obsessively searching for thoughtless distractions until he becomes desperate enough that the trailer for a new star wars movie makes him cry with joy
former bugman here. i can confirm all of this is true. i was able to turn it around though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 18:21:19 2020 No.14481448 >>14462874 >in past centuries so few children made it to adulthood, there was probably a form of natural selection going on that would have weeded out people unfit to contribute to society. underrated comment

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 18:42:29 2020 No.14481552

>>14472516
>Any display of competency is greeted with an extreme passive aggression disguised as humor. If you know how to do a physical task regularly assigned to a tradesman or technician instead of simply hiring someone else to do it for you, the bugman will laugh and talk about how “manly” you are. Self-reliance is looked upon with fear by many of these people who subconsciously understand that they have never tried to achieve independence for themselves.
^ unironically this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 20:37:03 2020 No.14482198 >>14461980 >old hollywood manchild >everyone else is into anime or television or games >the only other old hollywood manchildren are very rude :^(

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 21:05:01 2020 No.14482335 >>14461980 is that an asian restaurant?

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 22:16:15 2020 No.14482640

>>14465594
>I have collected all the signifiers of maturity. I spave for 8 hours a day in exchange for creature comforts and a sense of meaning in life. My wife also provides me with this, as well as a continuation of my genetic survival (or at least the continuation of my last name). Therefore I enjoy spending the rest of my time “shutting off my brain”. Its been years since I experienced hunger or discomfort, and being alone with myself is a mixture of anxiety and boredom.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 23:57:18 2020 No.14483120 >>14479264 https://www.theguardian.com/food/shortcuts/2019/jan/24/he-killed-the-goat-with-a-laser-gun-how-mark-zuckerberg-predicted-a-food-trend So we should be like Mark Zuckerberg, coding websites and killing our own meat?

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 00:12:09 2020 No.14483184

>>14477693
Your comparison to the Jaeger and the peasantry and everything medieval is completely nonlinear because you lack the understanding of how the specialization works and the educational infrastructure it requires (NOLS, Prescott College and other guiding schools, WMI etc), or the history it grew out of. This field and profession developed out of Post-WWI rivertouribg culture on the Arkansas and Colorado rivers and the rise of the American National Park that flowed along with it, blooming into a multi billion dollar industry that employs hundreds of thousands of people. My sector as an outdoorsman is more in the nonprofit and conservation-focused region of that. We are primarily educators, not tradesman.

>>14477584
In what way has manhood been outlawed? In a cultural sense or otherwise? Do you require an audience to feel manly or is the most important critic in this not yourself, and knowing what you are capable of? I am genuinely curious what your thoughts are on this.

>>14483120
Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 00:53:48 2020 No.14483330 >>14470456 you sound like a fat woman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 01:00:42 2020 No.14483353 >>14461980 consooomerism and lack of social capital to open up success in higher areas of social life (which mainly comes from being unattractive) There really should be more research on the effects of being unattractive on the psyche

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 01:36:25 2020 No.14483485 >>14461980 why do they all look finnish

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 01:41:47 2020 No.14483498 >>14483184 If you have the Facebook app on your smartphone, you should get rid of it. I had it on my smartphone last year and when I accidentally opened up the app, it messed up my phone and I had to do a factory reset.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 02:57:22 2020 No.14483738

My only real hobby these days is language learning. I have a pretty high level of ability in my target language and the only way to keep getting better is consooming (reading, watching movies, listening to podcasts and so on in the language). How does this relate to normal consooming in your opinion? I guess i am satisfied because getting to this point has taken a lot of daily effort

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 03:08:19 2020 No.14483770 >>14483738 Language consuming is the best kind of consuming. Also I enjoy working through a specific director or movement. Each individual part forms a bigger whole and it's enjoyable to see it come together.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 03:23:30 2020 No.14483814

>>14483184
>In what way has manhood been outlawed?
both literally and culturally
Think of any particularly masculine act and you will find that unless you practice it extremely privately or unlawfully you are severely constrained in what you can do. Everything in public is overseen by governing bodies, we are trapped in the position of an amateur boxer or olympic fencer where every violence enacted is padded and caged beyond recognition. What happened to the practice of dueling? Hunting? You may hunt only approved species at approved times in approved locations with approved methods, anything more is against the common good. This applies to every public act of manhood, where if not directly owned by the state is still subject to their restriction and discretion... domesticated peers will also restrict you. And it's not very profitable to be a poacher anymore
what I mean to say is, all space is owned and there is no longer enough individual power to conquer space

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 04:09:10 2020 No.14483925 >>14468643 You must acknowledge that the way you've lived up till now is not in any way more meaningful than the life of an avid gamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 04:53:00 2020 No.14484016 >>14468643 A simple middle ages man untouched by women as like as most human inventions

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 05:13:14 2020 No.14484060

>>14483814
??

You can join boxing of jiu jitsu gyms and spar with men every day if you so wish. You can buy if you have money ten thousand books off Amazon and learn almost any topic relating to literature, history. philosophy. You can join the military and become a formidable warrior if you dedicate yourself to it. CIA is recruiting all over the universities etc. etc. For all this owned space talk it seems to be a compensating mechanism for weak willed mean people who aren't aware that outside the USA and Western countries almost every regime and almost every human being lives under despotic regimes and the entire society works like crabs in a bucket and the political apparatus is just robber barony.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 06:26:29 2020 No.14484279 >>14462008 That explains Jordan Petersons fan base.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:51:44 2020 No.14484500

>>14484060
Why do Americans assume everyone else is American until proven otherwise? America at least still has some freedoms... I am talking of the despotism of the rest of the developed world where rights are not given, and the MMA gyms are also a cope, an exercise in captivity. I am not idle. You and I do the best we can with what we have but it doesn’t change the fact that our energies are suppressed and channeled only in domesticated application

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:55:23 2020 No.14484510 >>14461993 me too, senpai, there's something greatly anesthetic about participating in popular events >>14461980 i wish i wasn't self-conscious enough to withhold myself from indulging in the most diluted of escapisms

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:59:33 2020 No.14484531 >>14483814 >>14484500 I think you’re just a whiny pussy too weak to break from the prisons you perceive yourself to be trapped in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:03:53 2020 No.14484546 >>14484531 And I think you’re a dullard content with being restricted

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:25:00 2020 No.14484610 >>14466895 >You must socialize... I'm not going to make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:32:21 2020 No.14484622 >>14468643 Your parents were based enough to raise a boring, self-important homo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:52:16 2020 No.14484679 >>14483814 >>14484500 >Eurofag complaining about the domestication of man >He isn't even a criminal yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:53:19 2020 No.14484680 >>14484622 Cucked cope

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:00:06 2020 No.14484703

>>14484500
>and the MMA gyms are also a cope, an exercise in captivity. I am not idle.

Lol, what kind of statement is this.

>Hurr, if I could just smash some dudes ball it would prove how manly I am, the MMA dude are stopping me from doing this, unlike what I would be if I were born when men were men

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:15:17 2020 No.14484747 >>14462155 Stop shilling for your old book Dr. Peterson

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:21:07 2020 No.14484762 >>14484703 I mean that I go to gym and build myself in society anyway, it is really the only choice even if unsatisfactory... do you not feel like a caged animal sometimes? there is no frontier

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:36:28 2020 No.14484808

>>14484762
>I-it’s society’s fault!
There are plenty of frontiers, but you hide behind a victim complex like a woman to excuse yourself from facing them. Go outside and stop caring about how the world perceives you. At the end of the day when you’re standing in the sky, watching the sun set with a peak beneath your boots it doesn’t matter. Once you’re up there, you will finally understand.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:38:50 2020 No.14484816

>>14484680
>believing it's good parenting to just plop your kid outside.

Thats how the boomers were raised and one of the major reasons they are so fucked up. It's barely any better than boomers raising their own kids to be anxious homebodies. Extremely lazy parenting.

A structured childhood is what they should have, with valuable extracurriculars they enjoy (music, dance, smth), studying, time out of the house socializing, and time to play vidya or whatever they do; and ideally they have the ability to do most of this on their own too. However, even that part is next to impossible in NA because most kids would't even be able to solve the first step: getting somewhere. That is, obviously, because they live in some soul killing suburb an hour+ walk from anything and thus require mommy and daddy to cart them around for 20 years.

No one is impressed that you can can change a tire or use a compass, or thinks your mundane hiking hobby is "strange". You're not living a particularly meaningful or valuable life as a fucking backpacking guide compared to those same bugmen despite being slightly more sentient than they are. Your parents raised someone who thinks otherwise, clearly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:40:11 2020 No.14484820 >>14484808 some activity in or just outside a metropolis is not a frontier, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:42:25 2020 No.14484825 >>14484816 Different anon lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:45:18 2020 No.14484831 >>14484808 please boil your head

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:46:04 2020 No.14484834 >>14462016 Its sort of fascinating. Superheroes as a genre are basically crypto facist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:57:38 2020 No.14484880 I don't care how mature you are. Truth is there is basically nothing enjoyable about the real world anymore. Working sucks ass. I don't blame people for retreating into fantasy because the real world is a boring depressing piece of garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:14:42 2020 No.14484959 File: 142 KB, 500x620, D028E14C-1CE2-4152-8954-F6FE249069AF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >all this manchild cope ITT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 11:48:29 2020 No.14485286 >>14466895 You just posted cringe bro.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:09:58 2020 No.14485359

>>14461980
As a professional engineer I like solving puzzles and optimizing processes. So i like puzzle, strategy, and generally "difficult" games that take some brainpower to figure out. I feel like they unironically keep me sharp so I don't feel embarrassed about playing them. I grew out of plot driven, loot driven, and grinding games at like 17 and developed real hobbies (Having hobbies is manchild too, I know).

Despite not reading genre-fiction, watching any TV shows or anime and doing normal social stuff I know by your most stringent definitions I'm a total man-child. Hope I gave you a coherent glimpse into my twisted childish world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:11:12 2020 No.14485367 >>14483814 Easy on the weed bro, you're like...totally paranoid

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:22:59 2020 No.14485399

>>14461980
>Why read Genre-Fiction
-You're addicted to tropes and get off on identifying them
-You're intimidated by or don't understand prose
-You know there's an online forum where you can discuss the series and make fan-fiction and pretend to have friends
>Why Play Video Games
-You're addicted to performing menial tasks
-You like being assured that victory/success is certain
-You know there's an online forum where you can discuss the game and make fan-fiction and pretend to have friends
>Why watch Star Trek
-OG Star Trek provides an interesting glimpse into the 60's zeitgeist
-You like campy schlock
-You're bad at actual math and science but like the idea of science solving problems
-You know there's an online forum where you can discuss the show and make fan-fiction and pretend to have friends
>Why like cosplay
-You're addicted to ogling half naked sluts
-You want the chance to fuck half naked sluts (you'll settle for a hug or hoverhanding them)
-You know there's an online forum where you can discuss cosplay and make fan-fiction and pretend to have friends

In the end, it's because some people can't handle the internet and view it as a substitute for all real socialization and check out of real life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:34:09 2020 No.14485446 >>14462191 He's enjoying himself. Like, fuck you buddy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:39:24 2020 No.14485465 >>14484880 >working sucks ass isn't this one of the defining traits of a manchild? I may be a bigger big men than you but at least I love my job, I work hard 50 hours a week and wouldn't have it any other way. try making a name for yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:41:01 2020 No.14485475 >>14485465 meant to type out bugmen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 12:50:11 2020 No.14485513 >>14461980 I have crippling mental illness, and I've managed to avoid these. Maybe my loss, but I feel a bit better for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 13:36:13 2020 No.14485760 >>14484816 >he continues to cope and seethe because he desperately wants to consider his bug's life meaningful and dislikes the (correct) notion that others are objectively and provably better at fulfilling their metaphysical role than he is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 13:53:10 2020 No.14485852 Video games and anime are art that is fuel for the imagination and can inspire creativity. They're not entirely useless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:04:21 2020 No.14486210 go back to /pol/, /soc/ or whereever u faggots came from, you don't deserve to post on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:08:49 2020 No.14486228 >>14461980 Maybe you should stop judging others

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:38:00 2020 No.14486395

>>14461980
That is what happens when there is no traditional order, as oppressive as those might be it helped ground the brainlets that cannot stare into the abyss without losing their mind. Those people would have been better with a pre-determined role that would then shape their life: a farmer is a farmer, a worker a worker, etc...
Now these people have to grasp unto whatever our hypersymbolic society overproduces, look up twitter and see the absolute insanity going on: ecofascists, leftists and trannies defending islam, faggot nazis jerking off over ancient greece while posting videos where they plunge things into their ass, LGBTBBQ having gone through at least 12 genders, the far right is now pro-democracy, socialists became liberals and free market enthusiasts...
Reality is completely fucked up

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:39:28 2020 No.14486406

>One factor might be the suburbanization of America. I've always noticed that people from cities, rural areas, and even small towns seem to have matured more rapidly than those from the suburbs.
>In rural areas responsibility to both your community and family are the rigid lines upon which you are raised. In the city, responsibility for yourself amid the sea of thousands of cold and uncaring people becomes of utmost importance.
>The suburbs, on the other hand, create a sort of perpetual adolescence. There's no real community to hold you accountable - everyone just retreats to their houses after work. Nor is there any self to be responsible for as everything one could need - food, toys, even childhood friends, are built in to the central planning scheme. Couple this with the idea that mass media caters to the tastes of the upper middle class (the penultimate rung in the social ladder, in traditional American fashion), who live in (much nicer) suburbs, and it becomes apparent how the tastes of teenagers can quickly become the norm.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:45:40 2020 No.14486446

>>14486228
>Don't look around at the world and attempt to comprehend it. That might make people feel bad feels and face themselves critically. Or even worse. They might correct you and make you do the same.

Get out of my gene pool if you think it's even possible not to judge. This dipshit mentality will be our extinction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:48:18 2020 No.14486459 >>14461985 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 16:04:05 2020 No.14486537 >>14477217 Then we are back in this shitty planet once more with no memory of anything expeirencing once more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 16:55:32 2020 No.14486863 >>14486395 Welcome to Clown World

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:02:47 2020 No.14486918 File: 44 KB, 640x360, 1551627912354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14486395 >i can't handle freedom and the freedom of others terrifies me: The Post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:05:23 2020 No.14486934 >>14486395 >Look at Twitter >reality is fucked up lol, mate you're looking at an infected ass hair and your diagnosis is imminent extinction? Spend some months not looking at screens piping shit and garbage at you maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:09:08 2020 No.14486956 >>14461993 I stopped watching them about 3 years ago. as in stopped going to see them at the cinema. I just watch them when they're on netflix or something. i never seek them out. couldnt give a shit anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:10:17 2020 No.14486963 >>14471216 he is right tho. i think they're worth watching.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:16:06 2020 No.14487003

>>14486934
Twitter is only one side of the problem I am describing, the most obvious one. It still subsists in other places, for instance 50 years old homo festivuses and workaholics adept of the gluten free diet.
>>14486918
your freedom is completely abstract

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:17:44 2020 No.14487015 this thread should be the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 17:19:09 2020 No.14487026 >>14467514 Anyone has the edit with the australian shooting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 18:39:53 2020 No.14487429 File: 24 KB, 500x371, mshake.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14465402 >watched them as a kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 19:05:50 2020 No.14487522 >>14465641 you think frenetically smashing buttons in a specific order is like chess? lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 23:14:21 2020 No.14488581 >>14461980 All the bugmen in this thread ought to be exterminated in the way insects are fumigated from a house. You know who you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 23:25:29 2020 No.14488632 File: 100 KB, 1024x674, voyage of life manhood 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14486395 >>14487003 based

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Mon Jan 6 23:39:03 2020 No.14488693 File: 89 KB, 720x720, 8D12A71D-D1C3-4C85-8E47-5893AFA2FAC2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And once again, this >>14462381

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 23:46:46 2020 No.14488724

>>14463768
Unironically screencapped, for being well-put.

The more interesting question for me, is where does the point lie exactly for when people cross into manchildren territory? Because I have known plenty of brilliant people, either a cousin, or a family friend, who were into videogames and knowledge of them, manga, anime, and even memes, to a remarkably sophisticated and deep level, but either are well on their way, or have made a life for themselves with a happy marriage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 00:06:07 2020 No.14488802 >>14488632 That’s a mid-19th century Romantic painting which was created as a reaction against traditional order you fucking pseud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 00:07:45 2020 No.14488804 >>14481373 Tell us, in direct language, how you turned all this around, and what challenges did you face, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 00:24:41 2020 No.14488861 File: 2.19 MB, 1700x2275, Aristotle_Altemps_Inv8575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14477997 The true middle way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 00:25:46 2020 No.14488863 >>14461993 based pseuds are seething

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 00:26:34 2020 No.14488866 >>14483330 You sound like someone without an argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 01:03:03 2020 No.14489027 >>14485760 nice fantasy you've got there. seethe some more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 01:25:25 2020 No.14489084 >>14462434 rdr2 and siege

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 03:35:51 2020 No.14489459

>>14483738

That's so cool man, learning a new language. You're like Savitri Devi. She's a woman who could speak 8 different languages (English, French, Icelandic, Greek, German, Italian, Hindi and Bengali). She didn't have much of the high-tech gadgets we have today, but she learned them nonetheless.

https://www.savitridevi.org/article-woman.html

I should finish reading her "Impeachment of Man," since it's available online.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 04:01:26 2020 No.14489518 File: 358 KB, 500x775, 1110.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14461980 Dysgenics, the inconvenient truth that no one wants to hear.

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