/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14460698]

Why does this board suck so fucking much now?
We used to have good discussion about books here now it's all just religion and Guenon

[Anonymous No.14460702]

> We used to have good discussion
kek

[Anonymous No.14460729]

new generations my friend. gotta go somewhere else for genuine discussion.

>>14460702
newfag

[Anonymous No.14460735]

>>14460698
>now

Shut the fuck up newfag

[Anonymous No.14460746]

>>14460698
>We used to have good discussion about books here now it's all just religion and Guenon
That's because the truth eventually dawned on the boards intellectual elite that all knowledge is only a preparation for ultimate knowledge, i.e. non-dual knowledge, and that this secondary knowledge is immediately rendered unimportant by the dawning of non-dual knowledge, which itself includes within itself everything, the knowledge after which no more knowledge needs to be attained. Reading Guenon is unironically the first step for the modern westerner on the path to approaching this ultimate knowledge.

[Anonymous No.14460758]

Try Reddit.com

[Anonymous No.14460789]

>>14460698
Geunonposting and butterfly constantly posting really drove the quality of the board to nothing, people also used to start reading groups every couple of weeks although they would usually fail halfway. The board has always had a lot of shitposting but at its peak I’d say there were a couple threads everyday with great discussion. And the shitposting used to require talent, you actually had to have read stuff to parody something well.

I’ve been here since 2016.

[Anonymous No.14460794]

>>14460746
>ultimate knowledge
Which would be what? Endless platitude memeposting?

[Anonymous No.14460800]

I regularly post and discuss Guenon, I've been here for 6years, I always engage with posters, rarely reply with fewer than a paragraph. I can say with the utmost assurance that I am one of the few quality poster on this board. The retards who spam Guenon memes haven't read him, they're the same brainlets who spend their time posting meme on /lit/. Last year we've had memers spamming Deleuze on the same scale, half of the catalogue was monopolized by Deleuze threads with no discussion. It just happens that Guenon is the flavor of the month. When Peterson was memed, there were a lot of Jungian discussion I was a part of, having read Jung extensively; yet I have no interest whatsoever for the drug-addled psychiatrist. Same goes for Guenon, I post excerpts, reply to anons, yet I do not associate with the memes themselves. It sounds like you've been pleb-filtered by Guenon, more than you are annoyed with the memes.

Some of us have actually read the Greeks & co, we come here to discover new authors. Discussing Plato & Tolstoy ad infinitum is beyond my interests. Pseuds who cling onto academia approved philosophers do so specifically because they barely have any experience with either philosophy or literature. I have read many /lit/ memes; Stirner, TK, DFW, Guenon, Mccarthy etc... Some were good, some less so. So, you're either a newfag, or an undergradute discovering philosophy. Get good, stop whining. Some of us have had a two decade headstart.

[Anonymous No.14460803]

>>14460698

all the serious readers migrated to /r/books

[Anonymous No.14460806]

Around Christmas when we all agreed to spam Guenon threads to get guenonfag banned did anyone get a ban? Pretty sure I was the only one, I posted one single thread while many others were left up and the threads even admitting to being spam even stayed up for days.
How do we end perennial tradition posting?

[Anonymous No.14460811]

>>14460800
uh oh

[Anonymous No.14460859]

>>14460698
>We used to have good discussion about books

No we didn't

[Anonymous No.14460864]

>>14460794
Atma-jnana

[Anonymous No.14460865]

>>14460800

Checked

[Anonymous No.14460892]

There’s still quality discussion if you seek it out. For those interested in philosophy and religion those threads can be quite good too. Just avoid them if you don’t like them

[Anonymous No.14460954]

Arte there any other book forums or communities worth visiting?

[Anonymous No.14460959]

fascists

[Anonymous No.14460986]

I've been here for 1 year. The board was already bad when I came here but still managed to drop in quality. This place is terrible and should be avoided like the plague. The less time I spend here, the happier I am. On the days where I have free time I spend multiple consecutive hours reading. I am talking to this girl, and she's really amazing, and the literary discussion I have with her is so much better than anything I've had on /lit/. I'm starting to feel good. Anyway, blogpost over. Free yourself from your chains. I'm going to drink my coffee and sit outside and probably finish the last 200 pages of the book I'm reading.

[Anonymous No.14461181]

>>14460986
>I'm starting to feel good. Anyway, blogpost over. Free yourself from your chains. I'm going to drink my coffee and sit outside and probably finish the last 200 pages of the book I'm reading.
How quickly? mpw?

[Anonymous No.14461307]

>>14461181
I'm taking my time with this book. I'll definitely get through 100+ pages today just due to the fact I'll be reading for hours.

[Anonymous No.14461313]

>>14460800
ok guénonposter

[Anonymous No.14461321]

Any alternatives to this board? Any (worthy) forum that discusses novels/non-fiction books?

[Anonymous No.14461354]

>>14461321
There are none. Keep reading and hopefully you'll eventually meet someone with similar interests. I finally found someone who likes serious literature, we don't have a big overlap between authors we've read, but I'm making compromise by reading some of their favorites just so I can have somebody to talk to literature with.

[Anonymous No.14461358]

>>14460698
I thought the Guenon spam was annoying at first, then I started to find it funny, now its back to being annoying again. The most annoying thing is that it's an irrelevant third rate thinker that they choose to spam.

[Anonymous No.14461368]

>>14461358
>they
ok guénonposter

[Anonymous No.14461386]

>>14460698
Everything outside of God/religion is fundamentally unimportant.

[Anonymous No.14461389]

This >>14448651 is key
Much of the hate is ironic. The same faggots spamming shit here are in a reddit discord figuring out AESTHETIC things to say on some transitionthot's booktube.
Trumptards and SJWs ruined the internet, their 2016 civil war continues to play out within the Americanization of every last thread of forgotten boards.

[Anonymous No.14461399]

>>14461386
t. childless monk loser

[Anonymous No.14461408]

>>14461321
I wish. This board is full of retards but at least you can sometimes have discussions about out of the box philosophers. Pretty much anything goes here, it's pretty remarkable that there seems to be an equal amount of leftist/Marxist type people and right wingers. However the average thread is a massive shitfest. You don't get that on reddit, but then reddit is reddit. Good moderation but full of oversocialized bugmen who only read what their professors tell them to.

Clearly the content of discussion is more important to me than quality seeing as I'm still here.

[Anonymous No.14461481]

>>14460954
discords with a small group of people who read books

[Anonymous No.14461498]

>>14461408
For me it's the intensity of the discussion. As shit as it may be this is the Piraeus of our time, the salon of decline and a secret society formed of the exiled, or those not yet aware of the Western censors. There is no discussion in our time and those who find themselves here are attempting to understand this new form of communication, where even the subject and consequences have become impossible.
The crude celebration of mercenaries in makeshift bars.

[Anonymous No.14461516]

>>14461481
Any recommended discord?

[Anonymous No.14461546]

>>14460698
Make shitposting about Guenon a bannable offense.

[Anonymous No.14461676]

>>14461546
Why not anyguenonposting?

[Anonymous No.14461686]

>>14461321
There are some, but naming them here would be a bad idea. . . Start by looking at some other image boards

[Anonymous No.14461696]

>>14461676
based

[Anonymous No.14461735]

>>14461676
If they keep it in one thread I wouldn't mind. I'd even bump their shitty Guenon thread to keep it alive. But it doesn't matter, the mods/janitors don't care. There is a thread on /qa/ and still nothing gets done.

[Anonymous No.14461793]

>>14461735
what's the qa thread?

[Anonymous No.14461796]

>>14461516
Philosophia

[Anonymous No.14461807]

>>14461793
>>>/qa/3074145

This one.

[Anonymous No.14461930]

>>14461686
Other image boards are way too slow to be properly engaging (they average at like 5 posts per week) and don't follow aesthetical/canonical literature as much as the minority of /lit/ that actually cares about literature does. I've tried eight chan, 420chan, lainchan, arisu, and some other chans and it was a similar thing every time.

[Anonymous No.14461963]

>>14460698
Zoomers are worse than millennials

[Anonymous No.14462161]

What’s wrong with discussing religion? Theology overlaps with philosophy through the scholastic age and beyond. How are you meant to moderate discussion of philosophy while trying to remove all theology? How would someone discuss a writer like Augustine in that case? Same with religiously inspired literature like Dostoyevsky, the conversation is naturally going to end up in these places. Limiting topics will just make the place a miserable void like r/literature

[Anonymous No.14462175]

>>14460698
This thread used to be here BEFORE religion and Guenon, just shut the already, always the same crying with you people

[Anonymous No.14462273]

>>14461389
This

[Anonymous No.14463133]

>>14461796
doesn't that have thousands of members? how is that small?

[Anonymous No.14463199]

Bump

[Anonymous No.14463406]

i walk upon a well-worn path
in a forest known since i was young
yet all around me new trees grow
and songs of strange birds are sung
the branches are thick overhead
the air is musty and dark
where has that happy past fled?
how great it pains my heart

yet through that thick panoply
of tangled vines and briars
still stray light beats through
and sets the dark afire
as i walk upon this now strange road
of mottled light and shadow
i spy a quiet and well-kept grove
a green and grassy meadow

as i beat towards that tranquil place
to escape this unfamiliar land
i see an old man sitting there
slow of movement and calm of hand
i ask him what has happened here
where have the good days gone?
when i look around i shed a tear
from where has my past been torn?

the old man simply smiles at me
his visage mild and meek
and leads me to a sunny hill
where we can better speak
"why worry about the forest trees,
riddled with brambles and thorns?
you can't nurture every seed
nor every flower mourn"

"yet even in these foreboding woods,
where vile creatures roam,
there are bright and happy fields
that you can make your home.
find yourself a bubbling stream
where clear water still flows;
and rid that place of every weed
and nurture there what grows"

"and every day along the path
which you had once roamed,
old friends may stumble by
and visit your abode.
and some days none may come at all,
and others only trouble;
but still you must stand tall
and clear away the rubble"

"and if a youth stumbles by
who knows not right or wrong,
sit him upon your knee
and guide him along.
and answer his questions earnestly
and show him calm and patience
and for answers furnish him
with the wisdom of the ages"

"even though time may pass you by
and the world grow queer and strange
you will always have that happy grove
that clear and tranquil place
and good company to keep
though it be few and far between
that, young man, is enough for me
to keep me smiling keen"

and i left that sunny place
buoyed of heart and mind
the past narry bothered me
as i left the man behind
and i returned to that strange road
focused on the path ahead
and let no strange sounds goad
me from the future i will abet.

[Anonymous No.14463439]

>>14460698
Use the catalogue you fucking mong

[Anonymous No.14463455]

>>14460698
>stop discussing interesting subjects like religion and metaphysics and start discussing boring fiction books
no

[Anonymous No.14463463]

>>14460729
where??? i would love to leave 4chan forever. fucking where do i go?

[Anonymous No.14463472]

>>14461481
Can I please get into some of these. I am so sick of this place

[Anonymous No.14463530]

I blame on the missing of chart threads. 2018 /lit/ always had 200+ chart threads for the gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.14463701]

>>14463530
There were plenty of chart threads last year

[Anonymous No.14463714]

>>14460698
Every board on 4chan was never good from the get-go.

[Anonymous No.14463797]

Everyone should start posting on the 4-ch /lit/. Images are cancer and textboards are comfy.

[Anonymous No.14463832]

>>14463701
I'm pretty sure there were about three seperate chart threads on the catalog yesterday.

[Anonymous No.14464238]

>>14463406
Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.14464246]

>>14461735
Same it's just actively making the board shittier

[Anonymous No.14464431]

>>14463797
I just visited. Can you explain this place to me? I’m about to make a guenon thread there.

[Anonymous No.14464519]

>>14464431
It's a textboard, like the Japanese 2ch. It's an imageboard without the images. Perfect for discussing literature, as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous No.14464535]

>>14464519
Thank you. Seems rather inactive though

[Anonymous No.14464543]

>>14464535
Yes, basically like all alt-chans it's almost completely inactive, probably especially because it's the literature board. I think it'd be nice to have an active textboard about literature though.

[Anonymous No.14464552]

>>14464543
Well I will make an effort to start posting at least once a day then, I agree that a test only discussion space is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.14464558]

>>14464552
*an image

[Anonymous No.14464972]

bump

[Anonymous No.14465666]

>>14461930
If 4chan had something like lainchan's /hum/ then /lit/ would improve dramatically.

[Anonymous No.14466704]

>>14460698
Election tourists see >>14460789

[Anonymous No.14466727]

>>14461930
>>14465666
lainchan looks cool, ty anons

[Anonymous No.14466731]

>>14460698
No we didn’t. It’s always been a shitflinging fest. And religion and the whimsical whacky intellectual of the month has always been central to that.

[Anonymous No.14466749]

>>14463463
outside

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>>14464431
kek

[Anonymous No.14466902]

>>14461386
based

[Anonymous No.14466904]

>>14460800
the problem is that you're a fag

[Anonymous No.14467035]

I started posting here about 6 months ago and I noticed an extreme decrease in quality correlate with my rate of posts

[Anonymous No.14467312]

Now that the other site is back up maybe the nu-Christians will trickle back so they don't have to deal with basic paradoxes and metaphysical questions that they don't know how to answer without fallacy.

[Anonymous No.14467673]

>>14467312

[Anonymous No.14467707]

MOREOVER, why is the cocksucking search not working on warosu for threads made in the past few days? They're still archiving but not showing at all when I search with particular words. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!