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Eastern Philosophy General Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:34:45 No.14451129 [Reply] [Original]

Thread for discussion of Eastern philosophy...

Tantra Edition (pic related)

Threadly discussion; Do you meditate? If so, how?

(Beginner) Recommendations:
>Hinduism
Baghavad Gita
Upanishads
Yoga Sutras
>Buddhism
Dhammapada
Heart Sutra
Lotus Sutra
Diamond Sutra
>Taoism
Tao Teh Ching
Zhuangzhi
I-Ching (optional [fortune-telling])

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:36:59 No.14451140 File: 890 KB, 1630x1328, 1577599232062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:37:10 No.14451141 (Advanced) Recommendations: >Hinduism Adi Sankara >Buddhism Nagarjuna Dogen >Tantra Abhinavagupta

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:38:53 No.14451149 >>14451140 Delete! Thou shalt not summon he-who-must-not-be-named.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:41:07 No.14451160 >>14451129 get ready, guenonfag is coming

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:41:30 No.14451162 File: 5 KB, 193x261, mengzi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14451129 Why no Confucianism? Have you not taken the renpill yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:46:48 No.14451186 If the Guenon fellow does come, could he expound on the possibility of a non-india and, therefore, castless individual, receiving initiation from Brahmins?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:50:49 No.14451209 >>14451162 Ohshi. Ya. I like what I've heard but I'm not experienced. Any reccs?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:53:02 No.14451224 >>14451140 Silly image. Of course, they resemble each other. In fact, both are influenced from common streams -- namely meditative report.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 14:58:43 No.14451253

In a past thread I asked where I might go to find a Taoist spiritual master since so much of the lineage is either dead, or corrupted by the communist infiltration. Someone in a past thread told me of a man named Uncle Ji that lives above a Chinese restaurant in midtown Manhattan.

Well I went to visit him, and the anon was right. The man was surprised I knew, but when I realized I knew, he quickly let me in to his house. I sat down before him and he gave me a lecture about what the process would entail. Long story short, I am soon to depart to a initiatic Taoist fraternity in the woods near a Chinese community in America. After I have progressed there, I will depart to China to meet the man from whom our American master recieved his initiation.

Seek and ye shall find. All masters east and west have universally acknowledged the fact that a spiritual master will appear when you are at the proper level.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:06:27 No.14451296 >>14451186 Start visiting temples and stuff yo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:06:47 No.14451297 Let's talk about TRUE eastern philosophy, namely Christianity.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:14:25 No.14451348

>>14451297
This is unironically a more complex topic than one would believe. Catholics have been in India for nearly 2000 years and versions of it reached China every early as well. When the emperor expelled the Buddhists from China, Christianity was considered to be a branch of Buddhism. Rather bizzare, but interesting to think about nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:18:00 No.14451375 File: 238 KB, 1049x1600, he knows the truth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14451129 >Buddhism But wasn't that shown to be highly heterodox by Shankaracharya (pbuh) and Guenon (pbuh)?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:18:44 No.14451384 >>14451375 oh shit, here he goes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:23:03 No.14451411 >>14451297 Make the middle east asia minor again

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:28:30 No.14451439 >>14451129 Is Heart Sutra the Kamsutra? I've seen it translated more as Love Sutra or Treatise/ Sutra of Cupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:31:01 No.14451459 >>14451375 Guenon retracted that chapter. In the SP edition of the Introduction to the Studies of the Hindu Doctrines you should find his correction. >>14451439 No, the Heart Sutra is the Prajnaparamitahridaya Sutra, no relation to the Kama Sutra.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:31:26 No.14451463 >>14451375 Stop mentioning those irrelevant nobodies.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:41:53 No.14451507 Where should I start with RG? Je peux comprende le francais, comme si comme ca.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:49:29 No.14451553 File: 55 KB, 660x440, guenon avatara.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14451463 >irrelevant nobodies You mean the most esteemed scholars of their time? And arguably even of all time left in the current Yuga?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 15:51:04 No.14451560 >everything is one bro there, i solved eastern philosophy

Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:01:17 No.14451605
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>>14451560
It was already solved since time pre-eternal when Advaita-Vedanta was revealed by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to Adam (alayhi salam), bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:01:41 No.14451608 >>14451553 In what world is Guenon esteemed?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:02:32 No.14451616 >>14451439 fucking lol i've been waiting for the day someone would interpret the silly name translation like that

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:04:30 No.14451623 File: 27 KB, 303x465, guenon bro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14451608 In India even the random streetshitter shudra Sanjeet knows his name. He is literally that promiment among the Based Aryan peoples.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:07:01 No.14451637 >>14451253 so what are you gonna learn taichi

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:08:03 No.14451643 >>14451623 random sanjeet doesn't even know shankaracharya

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:09:10 No.14451653 >>14451643 Good. No one should know of him.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:14:11 No.14451672 File: 261 KB, 800x600, shankaracharya with students.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14451643 Every Indian Ganeesh has an inborn, innate and intuitive knowledge of Shankaracharya (pbuh).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 16:56:30 No.14451857 >>14451653 seething buddhist detected lol

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 18:14:57 No.14452242 File: 22 KB, 288x475, 00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What order do I read these in? I was thinking of just reading the longer first and then the middle discourses. After that I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 18:28:16 No.14452304 Can one reach enlightenment in today's dopamine overloaded world?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 18:36:59 No.14452327 Any good overview books for those? Foundations of Buddhism is one of my favourite books so would want ones similar to it. Anything that goes through the different traditions and schools of hinduism?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Tue, Dec 31, 2019 19:21:10 No.14452532 >>14452304 It is very hard to be calm and meditate, isn't it? Especially with the way everyone is now.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 31, 2019 19:59:43 No.14452711 >>14452304 It's easier than ever before.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 02:16:37 No.14453947 >>14452711 How so

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 02:17:47 No.14453949 meditation is the devil's work.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 03:09:18 No.14454070 >>14453949 kek, a christian friend of mine unironically linked me to a video where they state that meditation is a portal to demonic possession baka

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 03:25:54 No.14454097 >>14451129 Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Fr. Seraphim Rose. Brace yourself against the age of dissolution, return to the arms of Christ. Several chapters addressing eastern traditions...

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 06:46:12 No.14454456 >>14452242 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 09:56:33 No.14454939 >>14454097 >Rose also waded into the ongoing debate between Biblical creationism and evolution, asserting in Genesis, Creation and Early Man that Orthodox patristics exclusively supported the creationist viewpoint. This guy sounds like a total moron.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 10:10:25 No.14454974

>>14454456

Its not really meant to be read in any order. These are collections of speeches, and not a narrative in any way. A couple of the Long Discourses are narratives but they're not linked in any order to others in the book. The Parinibbana Sutta is halfway through (in my edition) for example.

That being said, just reading the Canon may not be your best bet. If you haven't, its better to have a more structured introduction to Buddhism first, and understand how your lineage of choice interprets them, than to just dive on in.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 11:07:58 No.14455166 >>14454939 im sure you're very intelligent since you dismiss any counter-modern and counter-mainstream attitudes as moronic. have fun being trendy, i hope it stays worth it when things start to really move.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:25:29 No.14455503

>>14451643
I recently met someone from southern India and he said that in his high school there they had classes on Shankara, even Indians who are non-advaitins are generally aware of his reputation as a Hindu folk hero and as a rejuvenator of Hindu tradition

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:34:05 No.14455540 >>14455503 south india is a whole different area dude

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:36:30 No.14455553 >>14455540 is South India generally more enligthened?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:38:47 No.14455559 >>14455553 I don't know but I'm going to guess that Communism had less of a hold on the south. It's one of the biggest reasons Indians reject Hinduism.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:39:14 No.14455562 >>14455553 yeah the islamists didn't have a whole lot of influence down there they're mild mannered and eager to learn

Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:57:03 No.14455657

>>14452242
>https://americanmonk.org/free-pts-sutta-ebooks/
Saṃyutta Nikāya is believed to have been the earliest nikaya that was put into the form we know of it today. So I would probably start with that one. Saṃyutta Nikāya is The Connected Discourses. Although this doesn't necessarily mean that all the suttas in it are the oldest, some of the oldest are Rhinoceros Sutta and Aṭṭhakavagga, both of which are found in other NIkayas.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 1, 2020 16:26:57 No.14456708 >>14455559 Marxism and Christianity both have their strongest holds in the south. With the exception of some tribal communities elsewhere.

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