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14442404 No.14442404 [Reply] [Original]

>Live in the UK
>90% of the country is either farmland, housing or retail spaces
>The 10% of truly wild nature remaining is so far north and west that unless you live in those places you face a 6 hour+ car journey or a £200+ 8 hour train/bus ride just to get there
>When you do get there you realise the only reason it's been left alone is because it's freezing cold mountains without a tree in sight
>So for 99% of the population, truly wild nature is so far out of their reach it might as well not exist
>And for the 1 in 1,000,000 guy who says "fuck civilisation", he faces an existence in one of the harshest environments on earth
Is it any real wonder people drink themselves unconscious, drug themselves silly, eat themselves to vomiting or spend their lives playing video games and watching netflix and working dead end jobs to finance it all? They destroyed it all, every last bit of inhabitable land was divvied up and sold off. Even that tiny % who come face to face with the truth of life are only rewarded with the knowledge "you're too late". We live in the worst time period on Earth that has ever been.

>> No.14442410

>>14442404
They still let you use the internet in Bongland?

>> No.14442412

you'd still be a depressed incel if you lived on a farm op

>> No.14442421

>>14442412
Did you not read my fucking post?

A farm is an abomination, it's not nature any more than a city is. If human hands have interfered with it, then it's SHIT.

>> No.14442437

>>14442421
you'd be a depressed incel in any context you found yourself in. ted was coping, even when he went out into the wilderness he couldnt find happiness, he spent the whole time seething that people outside of the artificial bubble he created for himself were having sex and enjoying their lives. cope more

>> No.14442468

>>14442404
Unironically move to the states bruh
All the nature you could want, as close to it's natural state as you're gonna find. Sure, you gotta deal with the ameritards, but if I'm reading you right murica has the aesthetic you're looking for

Grew up in rural Washington and now in Japan, the thing I miss most is the wide open spaces without people for miles around. Fuck these over developed, tiny ass islands. Unless you're in the great outdoors you're missing really living. This era is truly cucked but you can find yourself a piece of something better

>> No.14442504

>>14442421
Get off the internet and go outside then you pasty faggot.

>> No.14442523

>>14442404
>Wales isn't the UK now
lmao what this entire fucking country is wilderness

>> No.14442532

>>14442523
Yeah but then you'd have to go to fucking Wales lol

>> No.14442541

>>14442421
Pynchon is better

>> No.14442545

>>14442523
Wales is part of the 10%.

But even most of Wales is ruined. If you can see human settlements/farmland then it's not wilderness.

>> No.14442553

So what?

Wilderness sucks and that's why we built shit.

I'm all for nature but don't romanticise vast tracts of nothingness. There's nothing special about it.

>> No.14442555

>>14442545
Human intelligence is a part of nature too

>> No.14442557

>>14442555
Shut the fuck up, I know you're 15 and don't know any better but people fucking hate when you make pedantic statements like that.

>> No.14442560

>>14442553
t. moron

>> No.14442563

>>14442557
It is my man, cope.

>> No.14442571

>>14442404
>not just immigrating to an EU country that has actual wilderness before brexit kicks in

>> No.14442583

>>14442560
The only people who romanticise the bush are urbanites who have never been in it. After four fucking days in a land cruiser without a shower smashing your arse over corrugated roads you pretty quickly realise there's nothing worth shit anywhere between Betoota and Tennant Creek.

>"but what about muh love of the land"
Yeah, love of MY land. Farmers love their fields and they love putting them under the plough. Country people can and do love the land without loving wilderness.

Having wilderness is important and national parks are good for this purpose. Attaching some mystical significance to a vast empty space of absolutely fuckall is moronic.

>> No.14442587

>>14442583
>I rode around on a vehicle for four days, trust me bro, nature is shit

>> No.14442593

>>14442437
No he didnt you retard. He was happy out there until people and companies starting damaging the land around him. Fucking trilfaggit. Fight me

>> No.14442601

>>14442468
how does someone 'move to the states'?
I was researching about this and the only way that's applicable to me is work visa.

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14442602

>>14442587
I've seen wilderness like you wouldn't fucking believe, son.

>> No.14442603

>>14442563
Nature is everything that is not man related

>> No.14442606

>>14442593
Yes but he was also highly autistic and felt pain from loud noises, most people don't have this problem and they even do autism friendly screenings at the movies now :)

>> No.14442607
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14442607

>>14442404
What the fuck are you talking about? The Kent Downs, High Weald and Surrey Hills are all about an hour's drive from central London. Even if you wanted something really wild, you can get a £70 Easyjet return ticket to dick around the Alps if you wanted.

>> No.14442608

>>14442603
Nah, you've just been corrupted into hating your own nature

>> No.14442611

>>14442606
ok, shut the fuck up :)

>> No.14442615

>>14442611
No

>> No.14442618

>>14442602
Oz isn't nature, it's a giant man trap.

>> No.14442622

>>14442607
>What the fuck are you talking about? The Kent Downs, High Weald and Surrey Hills are all about an hour's drive from central London
And packed with fucking people moron.

>> No.14442624

>>14442615
:)

>> No.14442637

>>14442622
And this is bad why?

>> No.14442641

>>14442637
Because the entire point of going into the wilderness is to GET AWAY FROM PEOPLE.

You can't relax and enjoy the land if Mr and Mrs Boomer are 100ft behind you and some instagram thot is 100ft ahead of you.

>> No.14442651

>>14442641
Yes but if we are supposedly above nature, why do we need it? Sounds like you just hate people, which isn't natural

>> No.14442654

>>14442651
>Yes but if we are supposedly above nature
We're not, no one said this, I never said this

>> No.14442662

>>14442602
Im talking about trees nature not boring desolate desert nature

>> No.14442667

>>14442404
You love nature but you spend all of your time inside so you can complain about things on the internet?

Pathetic.

>> No.14442668

>>14442603
>>14442654

You're implying that there's some inherent desire to be submersed in nature, yet human perception is also inherently other from nature... Sounds to me like you really haven't thought any of this through, which is evident from your devotion to some nut.

>> No.14442671

>>14442618
>>14442662
Nature is nature. Sounds like they've already gotten to you with some kind of pre-packaged idealized version of what 'nature is.'

>> No.14442688

>>14442668
>yet human perception is also inherently other from nature
No it's not, you simpleton

>> No.14442696

>>14442688
So then you agree that human industry and intellect is also a part of nature and there's nothing of substance behind your whining, got it.

>> No.14442722

>>14442404
horrifying
my country may be burning like its hell right now but at least it will never be fully urbanised

>> No.14442725

>>14442671
Well forests > nature in that case

>> No.14442726

>>14442722
Australia?

>> No.14442730

>>14442671
Na oz is a fucking Crucible that split off from objective reality a few million years ago.

>> No.14442736

>>14442696
Everything is part of nature, that is not the question. The question is if it's in accordance with what nature dictates to be healthy or a perversion of it.

>> No.14442743

>>14442725
Then go LARP as Tarzan in the forest you faggot. You'll get bored after five minutes.

>> No.14442751

>>14442743
Forgot to mention there should be lakes too. Maybe mountains

>> No.14442758

>>14442751
It sounds like you're describing the Lake District.

>> No.14442761

>>14442751
>lakes
Why, do you wanna go skinny-dipping or something?
>mountains
Yeah, I bet you'd like to recreate 'Brokeback Mountain'.

>> No.14442762

>>14442667
funny how bugmen cannot -consider- the existence of other modalities of experience. But I am fooling myself, negation of everything non-liberal is the core principle of liberalism. What if the poster just logged onto his computer atfer a day in the wild? It could never occur to you. This is crucial aspect of liberalism, as Foucault understood. Liberalism negates anything that threatens its survival but at the same time does NOT recognize the existence of such a threat - unlike djihadists, for example, who both recognize and give credibility to their american/western nemesis, the liberal West does not recognize their struggle as REAL - instead they are perceived as backwards, primitive, held back by poor socio-economic context, superstitions... nothing inherently opposed to liberal fundamentalism, simply material obstacles to be overcome (inevitably) along the (totalitarian) linear progression of history.

>> No.14442770

>>14442758
>mountains
>england

>> No.14442782

>>14442762
Go outside.

>> No.14442787

>>14442770
What's wrong with rolling hills? If you want mountains you can kill yourself on the Brecon Beacons with our special forces.

>> No.14442852

>>14442761
what's wrong with Brokeback Mountain, you homophobic jew nigger faggot?

>> No.14442858

I live in Blackpool and you're right the countries gone. Parliament may as well be on Mars.

>> No.14442880

>>14442404
Getting into wild forests shouldnt be even a hard problem, the hardest is knowing what to do when you get there.

I live in an eastern european country with most land being forests, but if you're not prepared for it you would die from old landmines from war, vipers and bears.

>> No.14442913

>>14442606
damm i really hate loud noises too

>> No.14442918

You're from the UK, just drive to Skye island.

>> No.14442939

>>14442421
But humans are part of human nature?

>> No.14442959

>>14442421
Why is something inherently awful if humans had a part in its creation?

>> No.14442970

>>14442607
>Brits UNIRONICALLY thinks this is rural
How does one put up with living in such a place?

>> No.14442975

>>14442959
Because you're desecrating something that is beautiful when untouched.

>> No.14442981

>>14442437
How to spot worthless pleb: he used words incel, cope, seethe, sex all in one post. Kys.

>> No.14442983

>>14442603
By both sides positive and negative, you are wrong.

>> No.14442984

>>14442970
Why do you think we're all alcoholics and/or obese?

>> No.14443002

>>14442975
Are humans the only beings capable of desecrating something? What makes this "something" inherently beautiful just because it's untouched? There are many things that are not beautiful that have never been interfered with.

>> No.14443029

>>14443002
>Are humans the only beings capable of desecrating something?
Yes, because humans are the only ones who think they can improve upon billions of years of progress in their puny lifespans.

>> No.14443033

>>14443002
>There are many things that are not beautiful that have never been interfered with.
"In your opinion"

>> No.14443123

>>14443029
Well, what are we defining as "progress" here? There's a lot of open ends that make this fall apart.

>>14443033
Yes, in my opinion. That's the basis of a very large portion of argumentation.

>> No.14444183

>>14442736
that's not what you said a few posts ago