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14436459 No.14436459 [Reply] [Original]

the real debate

>> No.14436500

>>14436459
>nietzsche still on the left
come on

>> No.14436504

>>14436459
What're the categories/sides

>> No.14436508

>>14436459
In what universe are George Soros, Karl Marx, and Michel Foucault on the same side of anything?

>> No.14436514

>>14436459
>>>/his/

>> No.14436540

>>14436459
i recognize the guy with the weird face but i forgot his name lol

>> No.14436583

>>14436540
Ummm...

>> No.14436612

>>14436540
Alwister xrowley

>> No.14436627

>>14436540
gotama buddha

>> No.14436666

>>14436508
This one, where they align against all that is divine, harmonious and just

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>>14436666
>6666

>> No.14436690

who's the guy between heidegger and schmitt?

>> No.14436697

>>14436690
latino-guenon

>> No.14436764

>>14436690
ringojeesh starrpunti

>> No.14436769

>>14436459
>right shaped society for the better
>left shaped society for the worst

>> No.14436790

>>14436690
Ananda K. Coomaraswamy

>> No.14437035

>>14436769
this

>> No.14437062

>>14436769
Left - destroyers
Right - creators

>> No.14437066

>>14436459
Who are the guys on the left and right of Schopenhauer and to the right of de Maistre

>> No.14437101

>>14436666
Based.

>> No.14437108

>>14437066
>Who are the guys on the left and right of Schopenhauer
Meister Eckhart and Hermes Trimegistus
>to the right of de Maistre
Ibn Arabi

>> No.14437147

/pol/ bait should be ignored and reported

>>14436500
That’s where he goes. Soros on the other hand.

>> No.14437227

Is it supposed to show becoming vs being?

>> No.14437276

>>14436500
It's impossible to place him on the political spectrum, he shits all over every conventional morality. His overman is sort of right wing because it involves praise for unambiguous hierarchy, one man asserting his will over his lessers, but it's a stretch to equate this to any actually existing right wing political theory like monarchism, fascism, whatever, and his mockery of tradition further removes him.

It's obviously comical when the left try to appropriate Nietzsche as being somehow supportive of their humanistic programs but the right can't really claim him either.

>> No.14437284

>>14436459
these teams make 0 sense

>> No.14437309
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>>14436459
can somebody name them all? i don't remember a couple.

>> No.14437470

>>14437309
From left to right

>Left
Freud, Whitehead, Deleuze(?), Marx
Crowley, Nietzsche, Foucault, (don't know the rest)

>Right
Guenon, Evola, Spengler, Plato
Parmenides, Shankara, de Maistre, Arabi
Heidegger, COOMaraswamy, Schmidt, Plotinus
Weininger, Eckhardt, Schopenhauer, Trismegistus

>> No.14437476

>>14436459

>Nietzsche on the left

Killing myself, bye

>> No.14437483

>>14436459
Is that the Buddha on the left? Are you retarded?

>> No.14437492

>>14436459
Heidegger should be on the left, retard.

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>>14437227
This is the more interesting argument, but I don’t know if Heidegger can be put safely on the Being side, unless I’m misunderstanding his concept of ontological unfolding

>> No.14437530

>>14436459
Aristotle and Plato aren't compatible.

Left has even more incompatible matches.

>> No.14437552

>>14436508
To the conservative brain anything that disagrees with their worldview is all the same.

>> No.14437554

>>14437309
>left
Freud, Whitehead, Deleuze, Marx
Crowley, Nietzsche, Foucault, Benjamin
Soros, James, idk, idk
Idk, idk, Buddha, Bataille
>right
Guenon, Evola, Spengler, Plato
Parmenides, Shankara, De Maistre, Ibn Arabi
Heidegger, Coomoswarmy, Schmitt, Plotinus
Weininger, Eckhart, Schopenhauer, Iamblichus

>> No.14437568

I am a Polish nobleman pure sang, in whom there is not the slightest admixture of bad blood, least of all German.

>> No.14437569

>>14437554
hermes trismegistus not iamblichus

>> No.14437667
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>>14437524
Yes, not only Heidegger but many of them would be impossible to firmly place in one of the categories. I do however think, as seems to be the consensus in this thread, that OP just made the picture to fit his conception of the left-right dichotomy of politics—which strikes me as sad.

>> No.14437701

>>14437667
There is actually a profound and subtle significance to the choice of thinkers, but its meaning eludes your puny cognitive capacity

>> No.14437707

>>14437701
lol

>> No.14437715

>>14437552
It's not that they're the same, but it's what they have in common which makes them hated.

>> No.14437983

>>14436459
ok

>> No.14438011
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14438011

>Buddha on the left
>Schopie on the right
explain yourself

>> No.14438059

>>14438011
It doesn't have anything to do with politics or anything. Its just a A vs B thing

>> No.14438088

>>14438011
Buddha was a moralistic and narcissistic twerp who agitated against traditional institutions like castes and the Vedic priesthood, he was basically the ancient Steven Pinker. Schopenhauer said that reading the Upanishads was the solace of his life, not the Pali Canon.

>> No.14438642

>>14436459
bump

>> No.14438792

Nietzsche hates Buddhism. His entire life was spent trying to prevent Europe from falling into neo-Buddhism. Why the fuck is he on the same side as the got-dang Buddha?

>> No.14438806

>>14438088
Retard, Schopenhauer said he likes both the Vedas and the Suttas but he thinks the Buddha was closer to the truth.

>> No.14438821

>>14438792
Because OP is evidently retarded.

>> No.14438918

>>14436459
This is wrong, you need to put everyone there except Marx on the right.

>> No.14439717

>deleuze in opposition to parmenides
Nonsense

>> No.14439902

>>14436500
Where else would he be? It is impossible to think that Nietzsche was anything but a revolutionary given that his entire life's work was to dismantle the western philosophical tradition.
>>14437062
Not really. The ones on the left are all about theories of becoming, creation of systems etc., the right are prophets, conservators and ministers.
>>14437276
It's got nothing to do with their place in the modern political spectrum, the left all have philosophies of becoming while the right are of being. Obviously this does tend to lead to certain tendencies in the political spectrum, as one couldn't reasonably dispute the existence of an unchangeable universal whilst simultaneously being a conservative.

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>>14436459
Why people dickride Evola after decades of obscurity is beyond me. This guy fucks up who the Kali Yuga is named after, proof that appropriation of Hinduism in the West is another example of being a damn weeb. Exterminate.

>> No.14440203

>>14436508
I read this as essentially either realism vs anti-realism (or at least a claim to lack of epistemic access to the real).

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>>14440203
The question is. Which side is which?

>> No.14440402

>>14436459
why are buddha and schopenhauer on opposite sides whoever makes these charts is blatantly retarded

>> No.14440411

>>14440376
Right side (Heidegger, Shankara etc) realist. Left (Marx, Foucault) is anti-realist/epsitemic constructivist.

>> No.14440412

>>14440402
if you believe in noumena you belong on the right

>> No.14440438

>>14437276
Do you know what you are talking about? Impossible to place him on the political spectrum? He was anti-democracy. He wanted an autocrat.

>> No.14440475

>>14436459
No Adorno on the right...

Do you even? Oh right this board is underage b& + angsty college dropouts

>> No.14440498

>>14436459
Randomly generated bait for /lit/anons. Don't fall for it.

>> No.14441319

famous philosopher and writer George Soros.

>> No.14441630

the left would be fun to drink with. the right look like a bunch of kiddy-fiddlers