/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14394643]

why cant i just sparknotes all the general popular philosophy books (descartes, kierkegaard, hume, kant, hegel, nietzsche etc.) and read the obscure shit by myself?

What difference does it make?

[Anonymous No.14394647]

why are women so attractive bros

[Anonymous No.14394648]

>>14394643
>tfw no autistic gf

[Anonymous No.14394652]

>>14394643
Go for it, judging by your post you wouldn't understand a tenth of these book anyway.

[Anonymous No.14394658]

>>14394647
>>14394648
>she

[Anonymous No.14394666]

>>14394643
what would guenon think of her?

[Anonymous No.14394667]

Bump. Why can't I just watch a few summary videos on YouTube, read the Wikipedia and maybe the Stanford Encyclopedia page?

[Anonymous No.14394670]

>>14394643
if you drink enough you can convince yourself that nothing matters!

[Anonymous No.14394680]

>>14394643
you're right OP
Now just kill yourself
what difference does it make?

[Anonymous No.14394684]

>>14394647
>>14394648
she's underage. Answer my question dammit
>>14394652
no i was reading hume's an enquiry concerning human understand and while i do appreciate hume's prose and the comparisons he contrasts with objects

I will probably forget the specifics of the book anyway, and i will get the same knowledge that i would from just going over good notes and videos in a much quicker way.

however, of course. reading it all would help improve my verbal iq and i would actually be "learning by myself" rather than just being told everything by someone.

[Anonymous No.14394688]

>>14394670
I can confirm. Alcohol has always been the one thing to improve my life for the better!

[Anonymous No.14394692]

>>14394684
>she's underage.
are you a fag or something?

[Anonymous No.14394694]

>>14394684
>Answer my question dammit
coffee is good for you

[Anonymous No.14394701]

>>14394684
>I'd forget the details if I read the entire book
>I'd remember it perfectly if I spent 10 minutes wikipedia
I actually can't believe someone this stupid exists.

[Anonymous No.14394716]

>>14394643
You can if you want to. No one’s gonna strap you down and suck your dick if you don’t.

[Anonymous No.14394723]

>>14394692
i forgot i was on /tv/
>>14394694
Kek
>>14394701
That's not what i said, there are summaries that go into very well detail and i'd probably easily spend an hour or two as well as the lectures there are online.

My main concern is getting a biased interpretation

[Anonymous No.14394730]

>>14394643
she has no sense of style, dresses like a tranny

[Anonymous No.14394738]

>>14394730
She's a teenage girl with aspies, what do you expect exactly?

[Anonymous No.14394744]

>>14394738
i regret being mean to her, delete your post too

[Anonymous No.14394747]

here have an oldfag meme, now who is this?

[Anonymous No.14394751]

>>14394701
Not only that, but I may add that I'd again save time because of the fact that many philosophers can not write for fucking shit.

I'm not gonna reread Hegel's writing over and over again until it finally penetrates my mind when I can get someone to do that for me.

[Anonymous No.14394757]

>>14394747
Absolute perfection of creation.

[Anonymous No.14394772]

>>14394723
>>14394751
As I said before, go ahead. I already told you won't understand the fucking books properly so I guess you just made this thread so you could justify to yourself being an absolute midwit.

[Anonymous No.14394774]

>>14394643
Just read as you normally would and use sparknotes and the other shit as a companion to maximize your understanding.

Read the more modern philosophers, basically starting with german idealism yourself because thats when things start to get a bit debatey and modern academics today even disagree on their interpretation

[Anonymous No.14394780]

>>14394648
autistic girls have no souls

[Anonymous No.14394791]

>>14394723
Esse quam videri

Sure you’ll have a cursory understanding if that’s all you’re looking for, to posture to those that haven’t read it. But you’ll know anon, you’ll know that you’re just a pseud that half asses the things he does for the fashion of it.

[Anonymous No.14394796]

>>14394643
I know it's wrong,
I know it's dastardly,
But I am in love,
With this teenage aspie.

[Anonymous No.14394799]

>>14394796
aspies have a strong sense of justice so she would tell you to fuck off and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.14394804]

>>14394772
>midwit
nah bro im a retard.
There's just tons of shit i want to read and at the rate i'm going it'll take me a year to get to the modernists
>>14394774
Basically what ive been doing. Im just wondering if i should skip through the settled guys and move on to the obscure shit i wanna get into
>>14394791
I dont want to be a pseud. I want to absorb as much knowledge as i can as quick as i can so i can take the time to read what i want to.

[Anonymous No.14394827]

>>14394804
>absorb as much knowledge as I can

I’m just saying that that won’t be very much even with a couple hours on Wikipedia and with lectures. Your brain won’t make the same permanent connections it would with a longer book and you’ll certainly be missing out on large portions of it. It’s like asking if you can learn algebra by learning the rules on Wikipedia, philosophy is a sequential subject and if you miss out on patches early on your understanding will only grow thinner as you progress.

[Anonymous No.14394831]

>>14394804
I see. You are truly retarded.

[Anonymous No.14394833]

>>14394831
No, he's just sincere

[Anonymous No.14394836]

>>14394833
Like those things are mutually exclusive

[Anonymous No.14394847]

>>14394804
Who are you so enthusiastic to jump into?

[Anonymous No.14394861]

>>14394827
If you say so, I will take your word for it and continue at my current pace.
>>14394831
Yes
>>14394847
Menger, guenon, spengler, bergson, deleuze, cioron, land, dugin, kaczynski etc.
basically fucking everyone. i just want to read all their shit and come to my own fucking conclusion about the world and where it's headed
Because to me, the world right now is just insane.

[Anonymous No.14394866]

I think its Whitehead who said that all western philosoohy could be reduced to a series of footnotes of Guénon. So read him instead

[Anonymous No.14394869]

>>14394861
>Because to me, the world right now is just insane.
That's cute

[Anonymous No.14394876]

>>14394861
I’m on the same path anon, it shouldn’t take you longer than a year to get where you want anyways. It’s tedious at times, but at the end of it you’ll be wiser and more we’ll read than the majority of people on this board and in the average humanities department. I’d suggest investing the time now early on while you’re still young, it’ll pay dividends. You’ll also appreciate those names you mentioned and their influences as well.

[Anonymous No.14394886]

>>14394799
Kek

[Anonymous No.14394893]

>>14394869
Agreed, it’s very wholesome.

[Anonymous No.14394896]

>>14394869
Tell me then oh wise one, what is it that I should be searching for?
>>14394876
I do not know how cultivated I should get with each period. I read most of plato's dialogues and all of homer's epics but there are still tons of more greeks and not to mention the eastern philosophers i skipped
i should probably have made a bit of a table for myself to take so i can outline the order i should read in. because right now, i'm going in order of time with the books i currently have.

[Anonymous No.14394901]

>>14394896
I was not ironic, anon

[Anonymous No.14394905]

>>14394896
Look up the /lit/ start with the Greeks project. It covers everything from Hellenic myth to modern day. There’s also separate ones that cover political works and eastern philosophy.

I wouldn’t say you need to read everything in the doc, but if you do read a work don’t half ass it with Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.14394908]

>>14394896
He said it’s cute because you’re asking that question like you’ll find an answer in a book.

[Anonymous No.14394910]

>>14394901
well what did you mean by cute though.
i mean i hold no worldview. i only have the things i value, that's it. i'm too uneducated to have a worldview
>>14394905
This one?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

[Anonymous No.14394912]

>>14394908
Oh no i wont, but i think i will be able to form some sort if conclusion by myself at that point. but that is very far away and we will see what is to come

[Anonymous No.14394913]

>>14394910
Yes, that’s the one.

[Anonymous No.14394916]

>>14394912
So you want to build your worldview on a select few of contemporary works? Even more reason why you should read the classics.

[Anonymous No.14394918]

>>14394910
>well what did you mean by cute though.
Don't you think that earnestness and naivete are childish traits and therefore cute?

[Anonymous No.14394919]

why is girl so soft bros

[Anonymous No.14394922]

>>14394919
hormones

[Anonymous No.14394931]

>>14394918
yes you are right i am adorable i would make a great trap
>>14394913
alright, it's 2:30 AM. I'm gonna get some shut eye and read everything in that tomorrow.
>>14394916
Okay fine you were right i was ignorant.
now im off to bed. hopefully i'm not starting getting into this all too late in the party (turning 19 in a month)

hopefully i stick to my discipline and eat up all this shit. Thank ya all and gnight

[Anonymous No.14394933]

>>14394922
why don't me make beds and pilows out of the stuff girls are made of

[Anonymous No.14394936]

>start reading philosopher
>"hmm this is interesting but I think I need more context before reading this, I better start with this other philosopher"
>start checking out other philosopher
>repeat x ∞ and never get anywhere

I know I should just start with the Greeks and work my way up but it will take ages before getting to the 20th century which is the most interesting to me

[Anonymous No.14394941]

>>14394931
I’m 23 only now getting into it so you’ll be fine anon.

[Anonymous No.14394943]

>>14394931
>yes you are right i am adorable i would make a great trap
No, anon, nooooo. You leave me with no other choice.
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.14394947]

>>14394933
You can hire a fat (young) man to cuddle you and it would be the same.

[Anonymous No.14394948]

>>14394931
>hopefully i'm not starting getting into this all too late in the party (turning 19 in a month)
right on schedule, just actually read the fucking things and you will be fine.

[Anonymous No.14394953]

>>14394943
i was kidding i was a cryptofascist before this.
NOW GNIGHT

[Anonymous No.14394961]

>>14394936
You’ll be a better critical thinker if you start from the beginning. Better to be bored for a time than to adopt the views of a writer the wiser you would’ve disagreed with had he read his influences.

[Anonymous No.14394962]

I'm so excited for the christmas party bros I get to hug lots of cute girls once a year

[Anonymous No.14394967]

>>14394962
>I get to hug girls
r/13or30

[Anonymous No.14394970]

>>14394953
>i was a cryptofascist before this
You'll come out the same, but better.

[Anonymous No.14394976]

>>14394970
Kek, this is a good summary of this thread

[Anonymous No.14395000]

>>14394933
Soon we will be able to print pillows out of girlflesh cell by cell. Your waifu pillow will have a real vagina. The future is bright.

[Anonymous No.14395019]

>>14395000
I don't want to lewd them I just love how soft they are. They are softer than dog or cat. I just wish they didn't have those pesky bones.

[Anonymous No.14395042]

>>14395019
I want uhhhhhhhhhhhh
One woman, Boneless

[Anonymous No.14395054]

>>14395042
it's a real problem. the elbows jab into you and the head it way too hard. Like there is no comfortable way to snuggle your face into the head like you can with a cat or dog.

[Anonymous No.14395065]

how intelligent do you have to be to into philosophy?

my iq is one standard deviation above normies at BEST. I just want to know if it will be a waste of effort with my peanut brain.

[Anonymous No.14395078]

>>14395065
I’m 125 and can follow along, but it’s tedious at times. I’m sure you’d be fine anon, don’t let your iq be an excuse not to learn a subject, that’d be a rather low iq thing to do.

[Anonymous No.14395085]

>>14395065
>>14395078
IQ is a meme when it comes to quantifying intelligence.
It's to measure retardation, and it is quite effective at that.

[Anonymous No.14395101]

>>14395085
Obviously generative thinking is superior, but if a retarded person asked you if they’d understand Plato then why not tell them to go try for themselves.

I’d argue that iq is just as important as inventive thinking, but because it’s measurable it’s the overhyped one. I wouldn’t call it inferior, I doubt Einstein would’ve been Einstein at 110.

[Anonymous No.14395105]

>>14395101
*important- superior

[Anonymous No.14395113]

>>14395101
>>14395105
If you learn hoe to take IQ tests you can consistently score very high results.

[Anonymous No.14395120]

>>14395113
Proper IQ tests are far more than simple questions on a piece of paper

[Anonymous No.14395124]

>>14395113
I was tested as a child, I’ve never taken one as an adult.

[Anonymous No.14395132]

>>14394861
Don't know about the rest but you don't need any background to read Kaczynski, at least not Industrial Society and it's Future

[Anonymous No.14395148]

>>14395132
His work doesn’t cover much breadth in terms of philosophy other than a critique of accelerationism. You could read it alongside the classics, but I’d still suggest as a general rule to learn philosophy sequentially. Also, the essay “the worst mistake of the human race” would be good prior reading as another criticism of blind innovation.

[Anonymous No.14395151]

>>14395148
In other words, sure you’ll understand the concepts given, but your moral hierarchy has no foundation, so you’ll jump to almost arbitrary ethical conclusions.

[Anonymous No.14396331]

>>14394648
https://youtu.be/NX6rbLSp8Ys

[Anonymous No.14396516]

>>14394643
>What difference does it make?
It makes none

But now you have gone
And you must be looking very old tonight

[Anonymous No.14396690]

>>14396516
da devil will find work for idle hands 2 do

[Anonymous No.14396786]

>>14396516
based morrisey poster