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>reading book of Exodus
>Moses randomly kills a dude and runs away
>meets some women at a well and marries one just like that
>God appears and calls Moses back to Egypt
>packs up his family and leaves
>God appears and randomly tries to kill Moses

wtf? Why does this happen? Why is not explained? God tries to kill Moses and his wife cutting of his sons foreskin somehow prevents this?

What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.14382426

>>14382405
You don't understand the Bible. Yeah, something is wrong with the Bible after all these years because you don't get it. History was just waiting for the Bible and your mind to converge like matter and anti-matter.

>> No.14382427

>Rabbinical commentators have asked how Zipporah knew that the act of circumcising her son would save her husband. A common explanation is that the angel of God (or one of two angels, Af and Hemah, the personifications of anger and fury), in the shape of a serpent, had swallowed Moses up to, but not including, his genitals. Zipporah immediately understood that the threat was related to circumcision, by a "psychoanalytic link" between Moses' penis and his son's, the ambiguous use of pronouns taken by Haberman (2003) as indicating the fundamental identity of the deity, her husband and her son in the woman's subconscious.[5]

>> No.14382431

>>14382405
It was written by George Lucas.

>> No.14382436

>>14382426
Oh, you read it and understand everything without studying or looking things up at all? You are truly lead by a divine hand, wish i could be like you. Too bad I'm a retard and sometimes don't understand things, this is unique to only me on this board sadly

>> No.14382569

>>14382405
if you aren't reading the bible with a commentary, you're wasting your time and are gonna either not understand or misinterpret a lot of things

>> No.14382591

>>14382569
you can say that about a lot of books, stop gatekeeping

>> No.14382646

>>14382591
>you can say that about a lot of books
irrelevant, not an argument

>gatekeeping
how is it gatekeeping if it makes reading the book easier? do you think OP understands the culture of the region, the language nuances and has read other sources to which the bible draws parallels?

>> No.14383270

>>14382405
Post the verse and chapter numbers or begone with you.

>> No.14383453

>>14382405

Nobody really knows. Welcome to the Bible.

>> No.14383643

>>14382431
The New Testament are the Star Wars novels and Mormonism is NuWars.

>> No.14383753

>>14382569
>the defining text of a religion makes no sense unless explained to you
>oh and you will also need historical context, which if you don't good luck
How did this mess of a religion even get popular, what the fuck?

>> No.14384058

>>14382436
>He doesn't read the tricky bits of the bible on peyote

>> No.14384235

It’s written in paratactic style, as in they assumed you would understand the connections so didn’t write them down.

>> No.14384379

Old Jewish propaganda. Exodus is an attempt at mashing a Jewish folk hero and Cyrus the Great together in an attempt to justify Israel's alliance with Persia against Egypt. It doesn't make sense because most of the context is lost.

Oh btw and then Ezrah rewrote the Torah, so it's even more garbled.

>> No.14384411

>>14382426
This is the cuntiest, unmanliest and most passive-aggressive thing I've read this week.

>> No.14384422
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14384422

>>14384411
>that anonymous 4chan post was unmanly!

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14384499

>>14383753
>A few nuances(some important and some not) from a Religion rely on your knowledge of the culture, symbolism, translation and general context to understand
>this nuanced truth has always been maintained by word and secondary sources; Church
>just as Plato described in Phaedrus
>even just the unconscious aesthetic value of these mysteriously meaningful actions is cause enough for their existence
>"WAT THE FUK THIS DUSNT MAKE ANY SENS SO MUST BE THAT I JUST A GENIUS AND OVER 2000 YEARS OF MENHAV JUS BEEN 2 STOOPID AND BLIND TO SEE WAT I SEE"

>> No.14384681

>>14383270
this

>> No.14384830

>>14383270
>>14384681
>he doesn't know the story
>still wants to comment on it

>>14384499
that post is what you get if your only exposure to christianity is through protestantism

>> No.14384950

>>14384499
>WAT THE FUK THIS DUSNT MAKE ANY SENS SO MUST BE THAT I JUST A GENIUS AND OVER 2000 YEARS OF MENHAV JUS BEEN 2 STOOPID AND BLIND TO SEE WAT I SEE
Ever since people started studying the Bible objectively (i.e., with the historical-critical method, from the 19th century onward) a lot traditional Christian interpretations and assumptions have been shown to be utterly wrong though.

Don't pretend that having a long tradition behind something is worth anything.

>> No.14384956

>>14384422
lmao

>> No.14385001

>>14383753
Brainlet.

>> No.14385007

>>14382405
>Not reading the Orthodox Study Bible
Ngmi

>> No.14385012

Moses cucked Yahweh so he tried to fuck him up

>> No.14385035

>>14382405
yeah reading the bible is the best cure for christcuck delusions

>> No.14385040

Randomly cobbled together collage of disparate sources written down by a tribe of primitives dehydrating and hallucinating in the desert, then re-edited into an even bigger collage that gets re-edited several more times over the centuries, and then translated by a bunch of guys with various agendas, and so on. It’s just amazing it doesn’t read like a William Burroughs cut-up.

>> No.14385073

>>14385040
*Posts no proof*

>> No.14385099

>>14385073
It's 2019 and you haven't heard of the Documentary hypothesis?

>> No.14385148

>>14384830
>that post is what you get if your only exposure to christianity is through protestantism
Ahh, what could have been.

>>14384950
>Ever since people started studying the Bible objectively (i.e., with the historical-critical method, from the 19th century onward) a lot traditional Christian interpretations and assumptions have been shown to be utterly wrong though.
Yeah sure faggot, doesn't necessarily refute my point even if it is true. Besides, religions are always developing.
>Don't pretend that having a long tradition behind something is worth anything.
Do you not realise how stupid this sounds? Essentially "don't pretend tradition is worth anything." Tradition should always be relied upon over all else and hard to budge.

>> No.14385585

>>14384950
Fuck off pseud. Even Augustine was critical about some bible narratives, you literally have no clue what you are talking about

>> No.14385679

>>14384499
Can I read the fucking book and interpret it on my own or not?

>> No.14385693

>>14384422
>>14384411
>>14384956
The above.
>>14383270
Aaaand you didn't post the chapters and verse numbers. Pa- thetic

>> No.14385886

>>14385693
wtf anon, are you mentally disabled?
it took me about a minute to find out it's exodus 4:24-26

>> No.14386004

[24] "The Lord met him, and would have killed him": This was an angel representing the Lord, who treated Moses in this manner, for having neglected the circumcision of his younger son; which his wife understanding, circumcised her child upon the spot, upon which the angel let Moses go.

>> No.14386051

>>14382431
More like György Lukács