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Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:56:40 2019 No.14381663 [Reply] [Original]

I want to get into poetry so I'm starting with "The Best Poems of the English Language". But I can't find it in a pdf anywhere online.Anyone have a pdf of this book or something similar? Also, general poetry rec thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:57:02 2019 No.14381664 Artaud

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:03:46 2019 No.14381694 libgen; get a norton anthology

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:28:08 2019 No.14381821 >>14381663 https://archive.org/details/bestpoemsofeng00bloo you can borrow it for 14 days, I don't know if you can reborrow it after or just make another account and borrow it there

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:32:54 2019 No.14381843

If you're just getting into poetry, try looking up some nice readings on Youtube. It can be hard to find a professionally done one, but they are out there. This helps with figuring out what kind of scansion is natural.

I also recommend the Lays of Ancient Rome.

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:37:36 2019 No.14381870

>>14381821
>you can borrow it for 14 days
this, make sure you delete it after so it's not stealing
sometimes i wait 7 days, copy it to a usb, wait another 7 days, delete it, and then copy it over from my usb again ("borrowing" it again), and then delete the copy on the usb, and repeat once a week so i never have it more than two weeks so i'm not stealing

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:41:22 2019 No.14381887 >>14381870 Wait, what happens if you have it for over 2 weeks?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:47:36 2019 No.14381919 >>14381821 holy shit this dude is a huge faggot. why do you boomers even like him?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:49:23 2019 No.14381927 File: 114 KB, 720x960, a dog vomiting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14381919 >he isn't a bloomboy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:00:14 2019 No.14381973 >>14381927 >NO YOU CAN'T LIKE EZRA POUND HE WAS A FASCIST!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:03:29 2019 No.14381991 The Complete poems of Herman Melville is pretty fucking good. I'm reading his collection on the Civil War, and while I really can't tell the difference between a good and bad poem, I like him a lot so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:04:33 2019 No.14381995 >>14381973 what book are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:07:18 2019 No.14382007 >>14381995 the one we're talking about itt

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:10:48 2019 No.14382020 >>14382007 can't find it on libgen, care to post the section on Pound?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:20:39 2019 No.14382062 File: 1.15 MB, 1137x844, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14382020

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:24:14 2019 No.14382080

>>14382020
also after flipping through this for the last hour i haven't seen him bring up meter once, and he doesn't even actually review the poems, he just glosses over each author's entire body of work in a few paragraphs then gives his shitty ass boomer takes and maybe quotes a verse or two if at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:24:20 2019 No.14382081 >>14382062 this doesn't seem terribly unfair, although I understand bloom probably isn't fully aware of the nature of his bias

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:25:22 2019 No.14382086 >>14382080 yeah he shits these books out, some are pretty weak. I like the Anxiety of Influence

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:30:37 2019 No.14382117 >>14382062 He's allowed to have this one bias. In any case he loves Eliot, who was an even more insidious antisemite. He was just quieter about it than Pound was

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:32:05 2019 No.14382121 >>14382080 You seem like an angry person, anon. Maybe you should just read the poems you like and not worry yourself too much with Bloom's commentary. >>14382086 This is also true though

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:33:52 2019 No.14382132

>>14382081
he doesn't even critique on an objective standard, his judgements only seem to be based on how a poet stacks up to his contemporaries and his influences, and how well he fits into a genre, plus his writing is just so fucking unprofessional. i feel like i'm literally reading some name-dropping sperg's 4chan posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:37:50 2019 No.14382146 >>14381821 >>14381870 No need for such things. You could easily download it and break its lock with Calibre. A kind anon could do it and then upload it on libgen.

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:39:00 2019 No.14382149

>>14382132
>objective standard
generally when I hear people say this, they mean something like a New Critical close reading that attends closely to the text (and not much outside of it), but that isn't necessarily more "objective" than Bloom's critical approach
>how a poet stacks up to his contemporaries and his influences
this is of huge interest to Bloom, and to many other critics
>plus his writing is just so fucking unprofessional
He tries to write for a general reader. If it's too basic for you, I would check out the Anxiety of Influence

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:39:40 2019 No.14382158

>>14382132
>objective standard
What, pray tell, would that be, in a literary context?

>comparison with contemporaries
>influences
>genre
I mean what the fuck else are you looking for lol? Even at his most inflated, I find Bloom has at least a couple things to say about every poet/work.

>some name-dropping sperg's 4chan post
I can assure you that time spent reading Bloom is time better spent than reading some freshman lit major's ill-informed speculations on here.

>his writing is just so fucking unprofessional
If you can't appreciate why it is good for your writing not to be "professional," then maybe literature just isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:41:46 2019 No.14382167 >>14382149 >>14382158 at the end of the day he's just a faggot boomer to me. fuck 'im

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:42:38 2019 No.14382172 >>14382167 he was born in 1930, he wasn't ever a boomer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:46:31 2019 No.14382187 >>14382167 Well that settles it, you don't deserve to read good books.

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:46:40 2019 No.14382188

You should worry more about what poetry speaks to you before diving into what other authors judge as a 'goods' poem. You might wind up finding unmetered free-verse stuff appeals to you far more than something traditional, or vice versa. Once you find what sticks then find some poetry review books.

For what it's worth Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross was the first poem that spoke anything to me, from there I read the Book of Hours by Rilke, various national epics like Os Lusíadas, and The Dream of Gerontius by St. John Henry Newman. YMMV but I loved all of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:50:14 2019 No.14382207 >>14382172 ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:57:27 2019 No.14382245 File: 32 KB, 443x455, repent.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14382207 >not one mention of meter

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 01:03:04 2019 No.14382272 >>14382245 lol fuck off i made that image and i'm a zoomer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 01:04:16 2019 No.14382281 >>14382272 >I'm a zoomer We know. Anyways maybe you will have less shit taste as you mature

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 01:56:10 2019 No.14382553 >>14382245 >i made that image sips heh, sure thing buddy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 09:13:08 2019 No.14383959 Bloom is based Haters are cringe

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