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is this book the ultimate pleb filter

it still makes /lit/ seethe to this day tbqh

>> No.14378697

>>14378694
>it still makes /lit/ seethe
does it? Neet Chuh is pretty well liked on this board lol

>> No.14378703

The Gay Science and Geneology of Morals are better, though.

That book just has the edgier title.

>> No.14378728

And after you read the prelude to a philosophy of the future, read the actual philosophy of the future: http://orgyofthewill.net/

>> No.14378737

Which translation is better? Kaufmann or Stanford?

>> No.14378743

>>14378694
So true, can't believe so many brainlets come away from reading this thinking Nietzsche was atheist and not realizing that the book was profoundly satirical

>> No.14378760

>>14378694
the thing about nietzsche is that thus spake zarathustra is genuinely great but the rest of his work is a bit lame. like his metaphysical position is unironically "THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN AN IMMATERIAL WORLD ARE WEAK!!!!". like i'm not even strawmanning him that's basically it. it just appears a bit autistic watching him throw rocks at plato

>> No.14378761

>>14378694
Question for anyone whose read a lot of nietzsche:
How would an ubermentsch deal with a fight with a loved one? What does one affirm in this situation? The love of the other person (and thereby back down to maintain peace) or the confidence in themselves (potentially ruining the relationship)

>> No.14378807

>>14378760
he was an idealist
>>14378761
Ubermensche is the endgoal of man, and would not even be recognizable from man.

>> No.14378822
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14378822

>tfw a girl acquaintance sees me reading ecce HOMO
>maybe a week later she sees me reaing the GAY science
>she thinks im gay now
i wish i was joking

>> No.14378831

>>14378822
kek ask her out

>> No.14378833

>>14378822
lmfao

>> No.14378859

>>14378694
The ultimate pleb filter are those who can't see that Nietzsche is a rehash of Callicles, Thrasymachus and other assorted Sophists. Never moved past his beloved 'pre'-socratics, let alone anything that came after.

>> No.14379385

>>14378822
Lol

>> No.14380118

>>14378831
>>14378831
>n-no I'm not gay! we could, like, go out sometime, just to show you I'm not gay though haha, not like I have a massive crush on you, hehe

>> No.14380279

>>14380118
By the time i learned how to talk to women i lost interest in them

>> No.14380308

>>14380279
are you me

>> No.14380420

>>14378697
>Neet Chuh is pretty well liked on this board lol
What board have you been visiting? He's called "Reddit" by conservative Christian users and liberal idiots like Butterfly (though not necessarily xer specifically) say he's been "refuted" or some other stupid shit. Comparatively the amount of /lit/ users who are a fan of Nietzche are a minority, even if by a small margin. He's misunderstood on one side as a fedora-tipping nihilist and atheist for his anti-Christian views, on the other as a Nazi for his views on the herd and slave morality.

>> No.14380428

>>14380308
/lit/ is one person.
You have schizophrenia

>> No.14380627

>>14378743
His speech is less relevant than his lifestyle.

>> No.14380639

>>14380279
same, now there’s some girl whose straight up in love with me and i give no shits

>> No.14380659

>>14380420
There are people who meme against him but they rarely have anything interesting to say outside of
>hurr he was cringe fedora durr
wheras most people who actually have interesting things to say at the very least agree he is worth reading.

>> No.14380677

>>14378737
Stanford may (I don't know) be more literally accurate but Kaufmann captures his style better and N is one of the few philosophers where style is actually important.

>> No.14380768

>>14378694
>is this book the ultimate pleb filter
Nah that would be Hegel

>> No.14381093

>>14380768
Hegel, installed from above, by the powers that be, as the certified Great Philosopher, was a flat-headed, insipid, nauseating, illiterate charlatan, who reached the pinnacle of audacity in scribbling together and dishing up the craziest mystifying nonsense.

>> No.14381415

>>14378694
Neetch is definitely worth reading. It's pretty hard to disagree with his worldview.

>> No.14381460

If I were to read only one of Neetchees books, which should it be? I'm guessing Zarathustra

>> No.14381471

>>14381460

If you're only gonna read one, read Beyond Good and Evil

>> No.14381475

>>14381471
Alright, will do

>> No.14381515

>>14381475

If you're done with it go straight into Dosto's crime and punishment, it's like they're made for each other.

>> No.14381517

>>14381475
I'd read >>14378703 instead.

>> No.14381542
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14381542

>>14380420
> bug babe is a liberal

>> No.14381572

>>14378822
kek

>> No.14381580

>>14381515
I read half of crime and punishment already. Dostoevsky puts me to sleep

>> No.14381590

>>14381580

It's my favorite book and somehow I feel personally attacked by this lol.

>> No.14381597

>>14381580
>Friedrich Nietzsche at one point called Dostoevsky "the only psychologist ... from whom I had something to learn; he ranks among the most beautiful strokes of fortune in my life."

>> No.14381600

>>14381590
My biggest problem was that everyone has three names and I had no idea who anybody was until I figured that out

>> No.14381604

>>14381600

That's just Russian that has nothing to do with Dostoevsky himself, literally every Russian book does the 3 names thing.

>> No.14381677

>>14378761
>ubermensch
>loved ones
Untermensch detected

>> No.14382925

>>14380279
tell me how please sir

>> No.14383623

>>14381677
too narcissistic. human is social being it has to have company

>> No.14383730

>>14378694
Everyone has respect for Neetche stop baiting

>> No.14383742

>>14383623
This
Radical individualists are pretty cringe