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i'm bored. when does this shit get good? i lose more motivation the more i read it. why is it considered good and how did this make pessoa famous internationally?

>> No.14374341
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>>14374337

>> No.14374353

>>14374341
>le ebin hollywood movie protagonist meme
yeah okay bud, now give me a serious answer

>> No.14374369

That book should be read at times, not on a run. It has a more obscure and personal tone I think.

>> No.14374427

it gets good when your life gets bad

>> No.14374442

>>14374427
my life is bad and i relate heavily to the book, but i just feel like it's not really grabbing me or impressing me :( it's poorly organized, lots of repetition, some of the descriptions seem superfluous, etc, idk

>> No.14374518

>>14374442
>it's poorly organized, lots of repetition, some of the descriptions seem superfluous, etc, idk

Simply not your taste, you want a linear story. The book is more of a journal where the narrator reflects on various subjects he can't let go off, hence the repetitive tone. The prose is poetic on purpose, for he was largely immersed into poetry and had translated several works into English.

>> No.14375403

>>14374337
Zenith is the best translation by far right?

>> No.14375449

This is the kind of book you only pick up every once in a while when you're in the right headspace for it

>> No.14375474

>>14374442
If you even bothered to read the introduction you would have known that it was all collected posthumously and that had Pessoa ever published it while he was alive, it would have been heavily condensed and refined to not be so poorly organised and repetitive

>> No.14375478

>>14375474
i know that, but explaining something doesn't change that thing. doesn't matter for what reason it's still poorly organized and repetitive

>> No.14375639

@14375478
ok this is bait, but in case anyone with actual interest wants to read this book, here are the facts:
>started writing in 1913, and never finished until his death in 1935
>edited together from a bunch of manuscripts in the 80s
Yeah it's gonna be disorganized and repetitive. As for what the big deal is, the book is the literary manifestation of Pessoa's essence. He was a shattered man, creating dozens (upwards of 70) of heteronyms in his poetry and trying to finish a book for 20 years while expressing to friends in letters that the more he wrote, the more unfinished it became. It's a book that was never finished, and could never be finished simply because of the nature of its author, a man who increasingly felt disconnected from humanity.
To paraphrase, the book could never be a book just as Pessoa could never be a pessoa (person in portuguese).

>> No.14375650

>>14375639
>(person in portuguese).
no, pessoa is his last name baka ur dumb dude

>> No.14375768

There is a language barrier too. It's a different feeling to read Pessoa in portuguese, which is my native language. Just like I felt more atmospheric when I read George Orwell books in english long after their translations.

>> No.14376440

>>14374337
It has the feel of an art book rather than a cohesive text, which is an accomplishment in it's own right. I find it to be a nice atmospheric book, a pallet cleanser. Something to drop and pick up again between other books. It's a depressing kind of cozy.

>> No.14377630

don't read it cover to cover and daily, read random passages every few days or so instead

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>>14375650
No.

>> No.14378364

>>14374353
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