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>>14373159
My history textbook. I'm at risk of failing this class. Been lazy all semester and haven't written any papers and now I'm FUCKED. My professor has no late work but I would have to write 18 papers by Monday.

>> No.14373192

I finished the Silmarillion today. It was okay. Too much content to be written in an enjoyable way unfortunately. Will start the Children of Hurin tomorrow.

>> No.14373195

>:( where is big boooby girl? >:(

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>>14373159
book of disquiet, it's okay. feels way too long and i'm not feeling super motivated for it

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>> No.14373213

>>14373195
that girl has pretty big boobies

>> No.14373237

>>14373159
'Bout half way through Songs of a dead dreamer and Grimscribe by Ligotti. Haven't read horror before and it's pretty good. Although at this point the repeated premise of "X goes to a strange town and it turns out the town is spooked" is getting a bit stale, I'll finish it nonetheless probably because the prose is rather good and it's hardly a slog to read a chapter every night.

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The book of Daniel and is amazing

>> No.14373303

I guess I haven't quit reading Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit or Quine's Word and Object.

>> No.14373316

Elective Affinities - Goethe

I don’t know yet, just started

>> No.14373362

>>14373159
starship troopers, so far it's weird but the good kind of weird

>> No.14373550

>>14373210
b&r

>> No.14373567

>>14373159
>Artaud collected works
In short yes, although obviously un-tangible sometimes I love it.
>Notes from the underground
liking it a lot, still in the underground part but so far so good
>Discipline & Punish
Dropped for a bit, no incentive to keep going
>Baudelaire Flowers of Evil
going to start tonight

>> No.14373929

>>14373179
go hard anon, I believe in you

>> No.14373934

>>14373159
Wings of Fire
not really

>> No.14373983

Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner, it is very good. I enjoy the oratory stream of consciousness style that really sets it apart from As I Lay Dying.

>> No.14374041

I'm reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church out of curiosity. I'm not sure whether to keep it for reference or toss it. Possibly a third of the doctrinal proofs are references to scripture and the other two-thirds to councils or works written by Catholic saints. A few of the scripture proofs I've found to be a bit of a stretch.

>> No.14374057

The Iliad
It's pretty fucking great. Far better than I expected.

>> No.14374061

>>14373159
"Camp of the Saints" which is pretty amusing. I plan on doing some Greek readings afterwards.

>> No.14374063

>>14373159
I just finished The Nine Princes of Amber by Zelazny which was fun and started The Spy Who Came in From the Cod which seems good so far. Although I kind of wish I started the second Zelazny book in the Amber series but I'm weird about reading sequels back to back.

>> No.14374080

Still war and peace - 900 pages in.
Otto Rank - will therapy.

>> No.14374101

>>14373159
What book is she reading to make her blush like that?

>> No.14374115

>>14374101
my diary desu

>> No.14374159

>>14374101
lolita

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>>14374101
>book
If only.

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Read the Protagoras today. I like how Plato uses his parody of a sophist's rambling speech to make a point about how we're all on the chain of being between good and bad, and we can only become bad if we fail to aim for the good.

Also reading Wittgenstein's Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics and enjoying how he blows the fuck out of logicists.

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>>14373159
Finished Buddenbrooks a while back and Hanno's fate broke my heart. Decided to keep going with Mann, who's looking to become one of my all-time favourites, and got myself a copy of The Magic Mountain which has been a very pleasant read so far; I especially like his musings about time; how monotony lengthens the hour but shortens the year and vice versa with new experiences. I'm also reading The Long Ships which is a classic sort of narrative following the life of a norseman in the late 10th, early 11th centuries - a fantastic, smooth read that I'd recommend to anyone.

>> No.14374497

Reading Epictetus' Discourses. Read and loved Meditations on a friend's recommendation and it's providing a nice foundational context

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>> No.14374573

>>14373362
Why weird

>> No.14374615

Imperial Twilight by Stephen Platt. He's really good at constructing a narrative and it's making me more interested in chinese history.

>> No.14374625

>>14374194
Oh my god.

SHE'S A ROBOT?!

>> No.14374638

>>14374625
One hell of a plot twist right?

>> No.14374658

>>14374638
I'd like to twist your plot.

>> No.14374686 [DELETED] 

>>14374658
klxiikfd@sharklasers.com

>> No.14374758

About to finish Suttree..

Not sure how I feel.

>> No.14374823

>>14373179
what kind of history, anon. What would the various papers be about?

>> No.14374923

Jane Eyre. I'd say it's pretty good, the pages fly by, possibly because I read the abridged version as a kid so I already know what happens

>> No.14374932

>>14373159
Children of Dune
Eh not really but everyone says it's essential to understand what comes next. Compared to Dune and Messiah it's real fucking dull though.

>> No.14374948

How to Read a Book
It's interesting, but it's clearly dated. I think we could use a modern version by somebody who is just as anal as Adler when it comes to classical education.

>> No.14375025

>>14373567
Why start another book when you've started Notes which is like 130 pages? I'm just curious about people read multiple books at once.

>> No.14375052

>>14374625
Something's leaking down there so it's just a remote controlled certain something.

>> No.14375111

>>14375052
I don't follow.

>> No.14375185

>>14375052
She's a robot with an oil leak?! Somebody help her, she's going to die

>> No.14375208

>>14374041
The Catechism isn't meant to have doctrinal proofs. If you are reading the Catechism as a work of apologetics, you don't even understand the purpose of the work. The Catechism is for people, usually those who are already Catholic, wanting to know what the Church teaches. If you want to know why, you should be reading something that goes into more detail and is not meant to be a summary of literally all the doctrine.

>> No.14375274

>>14374080
Hows the otto rank? Have you read any of his other works?? Reccomendde?

>> No.14375284

>>14373237
I'm not a huge reader of horror but whenever I've picked up Ligotti he always seems to be an academic standing on the shoulders of literary giants. All of his great work is directly based on some literary predecessor in a way that other horror writers have managed to avoid even when they're drawing inspiration from earlier works. He never really touches on the unknown and with it bring a new fear to the table, which to me is the essence of good, original horror writing.

>> No.14375303

>>14374057
>The Iliad
do any supplemental reading? I'm considering reading the Trojan War but I kind of just want to to jump into Homer

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>>14375208
Then maybe Catholics have a different understanding of catechisms. The CCC is on the left and the right is the Westminster Larger Catechism. Are those verses referenced in the CCC not being used for establishing doctrine?
>Catechism is for people, usually those who are already Catholic, wanting to know what the Church teaches
Who would want to be Catholic before knowing what they teach? And if the CCC is a summary of their doctrine then that would be the best place to begin learning.

>> No.14375337

>>14375317
Yes, the Catechism is for people wanting to know what the Church teaches. I never claimed otherwise. I said that is a mistake to try and view it like a book of apologetics. It was not written with the purpose of trying to convince Protestants to convert

>> No.14375351

Death on the Installment Plan. It is good to be reading more of Céline after having read Journey to the End of the Night so long ago.

>> No.14375392

>>14373159
This Charlie and the Chocolate fanfiction. It's currently at chapter 2, published serially. I like it a lot.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13451176/1/Chili-and-the-Chocolate-Factory-Fudge-Revelation

>> No.14375448

>>14375337
I get that. It is just a strange book to me. Why include references to councils and ECF when you could so very simply replace them with references to scripture that shows where those doctrines are derived? Everybody has a bible and can look them up. Not everybody has the Homilies of St. John Chrysostom or the Summa Theologica or can even understand those works. Whereas scripture gives understanding to the simple as David writes.
>The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

>> No.14375459

>>14373159
Chesterton's Orthodoxy. I'm hating so much.

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>>14373159
I'm reading My Struggle book 1 and yeah it is good. Also I pirated it after buying a Kindle Paperwhite for Black Friday, and I haven't read this much in so long. I've downloaded and sent a shit ton of .mobis and .pdfs to my Kindle (literally hundreds, probably over a thousand) and I have a ton to read so I'm pretty fucking happy. I also have a job now and am not a NEET any more and it's Christmastime and life is looking up bros!

>> No.14375573

>>14375303
just jump into it lad, it's a foundational text, no required preliminary reading

>> No.14375590

>>14375490
reading him also on my kindle so far its been comfy

>> No.14375610

>>14373159
Just finished The Elementary Particles this afternoon. It was okay and not as mind blowing as I had heard. I appreciated what he was trying to get at, but it felt so sterile to me. I think I was let down from all the hype.

About to start the Skating Rink by Bolano. This will be my third work of his after Savage and Nazi Literature

>> No.14375656

>>14375448
Scripture is not the totality of the Christian faith. That is a basic tenant of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, etc. To interpret Catholicism in the protestant framework of sola scriptura doesn't make any sense.

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>>14375590
Nice man!

>> No.14375707

>>14373159
Equus by Shaffer, im halfway through, seems like a great play so far

>> No.14375848

>>14375459
why?

>> No.14376127

>>14373159
The Iliad, it’s alright.

>> No.14376136

>>14373159

The Last Wish which is a short story anthology about the Witcher and Death Note: Black Edition Volume One. Also Micronesian Legends and Final Harvest which is a collection of Emily Dickenson's poetry. And yeah, they're all pretty cool and have to read since I don't have a credit card to pay for television streaming services.

>> No.14376143

>>14374948

What if you just read Edgar Allan Poe's short essay Marginilia? Or I think it's called Marginilia and is about reading and making notes in the margins. I checked with Google and it's actually spelled "Marginalia."

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I am reading Paradise Lost. It’s living up to the hype. In book V or IV where the angels banter with Satan after catching his ass, and Satan shittalks God, Gabriel, and all of them.

>>14373179
>Go for glory or die a coward
>>14373264
>Based
>>14373362
> [ Desire to know more intensifies ]
>>14374057
> So fucking good. Take note of the force of irony. Whenever Achilles does something it ironically backfires.
>>14374497
> Make sure to do Seneca afterward, his writing style is more flowery and less cold like Marcus’... and less frank than Epictitus’.

>> No.14376411

>>14375274
He's alright. Will therapy is basically a book where otto compares his technique against freuds. I'd recommend him if you're interested into psych because in my opinion he stands somewhere between freud and jung.

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About to read Call of Cthulhu, have read everything previously by him since i have the complete fiction. What should i be expecting, honestly pretty hyped for it.

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>>14373159
Just finished Madame Bovary. It was chill, I guess. Towards the end I didn't know whether to laugh at her stupidity or weep for her family.

>> No.14376539

>>14373159
The Stand

pretty good so far and hopefully things will get crazy soon.

>> No.14376544

The Classical Style by Charles Rosen.

Yes.

>> No.14376566

I’m re-reading Brave New World because I remember liking it at 13-14. It’s bad and Huxley is a hack. The world he builds is interesting, and that covers everything positive I could say about it.
>late 1800s early 1900s anti-communist/Bolshevik propaganda: the novel
>DAE share wimmin becoz gommunist huehue
>publig edugation big bad
>it is braynwashing big bad
Moreover many ills of BNW’s society are present today, as side-effects of neoliberalism and capitalism. No surprise he took a step back and claimed his book was merely pro-democratic, poor hack seen his dystopia come true, accelerated by the very things he believed in.
Btw. I read Do androids dream of electric sheep before BNW, and the two worlds are very much alike, except one is the result of gommunism, and the other of globalism and neoliberal corporatism.

>> No.14376583

>>14373159
Halfway through Lolita and the prose is getting exhausting. I need a dictionary just to get through one page

>> No.14376588

>>14376566
Fix your fucking keyboard, asshole.

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>>14376588
>being this much of a redarded gunt

>> No.14376614

>The Bible
Not really

>Letters from a Stoic
Interesting, just really long when you read one letter a day.

>Spiritually Incorrect Enlightenment
I bought the entire series hoping it would be more interesting than it ultimately ended up being.

>The Ethical Slut
Haven't gotten far enough to really judge.

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>>14373159
Michael Harts 2007 Understanding Human History.

Some old takes on Out of Africa, but otherwise some good genetics research but needs to be updated with Neuroscience of Intelligence

>> No.14377443

>>14376479

Why? What happened? Is the book available at the Gutenberg site?

>> No.14377455

>>14373159
The Wind in the Willows
Was the guy in the island a god or what? By the way, Toad did nothing wrong.

>> No.14377568

Infinite Jest, about half way through.
Yes it's good, no I will not discuss further why.

>> No.14377583

the bible im at galatians right now and hope to finish before the year end

>> No.14377635

It is the oldest book in it's language (1375) and is also one of the best. I enjoy it a lot. The prequel to it was written 100 years later.

>> No.14377810

>>14377635
why not name the book?

>> No.14377940

>>14373159
How do I have sex with anime girls? bros? Any books that expound on the possibility of an existence where this is possible. I mean, I can already access this platonic ideal with my thinking brain. I know God could make this a reality, so until I get any further information I shall lead a monastic religious existence to ensure I don't fuck up my chance at this with IRL sin.

>> No.14378029

>>14376566
>Fordism represents communism
>The caste system has anything to do with communism
LMAO you're a brainlet BNW was describing the ills of the coming technocratic totalitarianism and the various ways it will dehumanise us. The dystopia was at the point where it was beside the point whether it arose from gommunism or gabidalism and it could have conceivably come from either. Any capitalism communism shit is pure fan-fiction projection.

>> No.14378057

Yes, it works well, i currently reading a book that inspires me a lot that's why I read it constantly.

>> No.14378072

>>14373159
South of the border, west of the sun. started it this morning and I'll probably finish it later today. it's an easy read and pretty enjoyable. pales in comparison to Kafka on the shore and after dark though. more in line with wild sheep chase which I though was pretty okay

>> No.14378164

>>14373159
Plato - Phaedrus. Just about done.

>> No.14378180

>>14374615
Excited to read this! Have you read Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom as well?

>> No.14378349

>>14378180
Not yet, but I want to read it next.

>> No.14378356

Turn of the screw, its a little silly but james hasnt dissapointed me yet

>> No.14378832

Trainspotting
It's excellent

>> No.14378844

the magic mountain and it's ok
honestly some of the long discussions get a bit tedious but the characters and setting are great.

>> No.14378889

The Weight of Glory by CS Lewis. Just reading more Christian books for the Christmas season.

>> No.14379657

Bump

>> No.14379692

does anyone have suggestions on good books to start reading for greek & roman history

>> No.14379746

>>14379692
The Trojan War, Herodotus, Hesiod, Tactius, Procopius, Jordanes kind of

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I'm at the part where Suttree got a nice, big Thanksgiving dinner for the City Mouse. Lovely book.

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You ever see that movie "The Frighteners"? Well kind of like that only one ghost has a giant squashed penis he has to carry

>> No.14380163

Wuthering heights

A cringe fest.

But desu I think that I am not in the right period to read it. Need something else.

>> No.14380170

>>14380163
Is the prose good, at least?

>> No.14380179

>>14380170
So far is fine. Nothing wrong with it.

>> No.14380465

about 1/4 of the way through 1Q84 by Murakami
he writes great characters and dialogue. I bet he could be a really good screenwriter. incredibly easy to read, while feeling that there are things to be gained from experiencing it, he has a very extensive knowledge of humans. he usually also ends up asking more questions than answering, which i enjoy. id rather think about it later and see what i can come up with or talk with a friend than simply read a solution

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>>14374823
It's american history to 1877

>> No.14380978

About to start Oblomow after only reading the back of the book in some secondhand shop and Im really excited

>> No.14381198

>>14373159
Crime & Punishment
Approaching Zion
What Hath God Wrought

yeah they're all pretty good

>> No.14381222

>>14373159
Source pls

>> No.14381287

>>14380465
I'm two hundred pages from the end and I want to kill myself from all the tedium I am still subjecting myself too. I think Murakami is alright with a reasonable word count, but this is a bit too indulgent.

Other than that I'm about 3/4 through The Portrait of a Lady, which is equally as tedious, but at least Henry James can write some killer dialogue, even if I don't give much of a shit about the difference between Americans and Europeans in the nineteenth century.
>>14378356
I have this lined up too, I'm excited to sample some more of James.

And James Gleick's Chaos, which is a nice departure for me. I don't read much nonfiction.

>> No.14381310

>>14373159
V.

It’s really incredible, but far from what I was expecting. First Pynchon novel i’ve read, so I was definitely expecting a damn near incomprehensible text. I’m only about 300 pages in, so perhaps a shift in difficulty is later, but for the time being it’s a relative breeze. The rapid shifts from comedy to depressing drama, sometimes mixing the two, coupled with the mesmerizing prose is making for one of the better reading experiences i’ve had in awhile. Truth be told I only picked this up because The Crying of Lot 49 and Inherent Vice - The two books I was recommended as a pumping off point into Pynchon’s work - were checked out of the library. Great stuff, glad I finally got around to reading him, and hope the second half is just as good.

>> No.14381314

>>14373159
R. R. Reno's Return of the Strong Gods. It's pretty good but I've been going through it a lot slower than I expected. I think I'm just depressed or exhausted or something but usually a 180 page book wouldn't take me more than 3 or 4 days off to read and I've been on this one for almost a week and a half.

>> No.14382346

>>14373159
I'm reading the first Harry Potter. I've read 5 chapters. All of which have been devoted to this Dursley family, who are irrelevant based on what I know of HP, which is very little. I guess I'm curious to find out if they will mean anything or if JK Rowling was just riffing off this funny family.

Is it any good so far? I'm not hooked, but I haven't been turned off. It's not like Twilight where I just couldn't continue after 90 pages. I really liked when Harry Potter freed the snake. Thought that was a great scene.

>> No.14382608

>>14373159

uh, "stalin's ghost" by martin cruz smith, the second of s.m.stirling's terminator books, and the uncut version of "the stand" by stephen king.

>> No.14382611

>>14374194

fuckin' merunyaa. i love the succubus character.

>> No.14382617

>>14374932

whenever i get to a dull part in a book, i ask myself "why did the writer include this? either they thought it was necessary for a reason, or they were being paid per word."

>> No.14382629

>>14377455
>Was the guy in the island a god or what?

it was a daring (at the time) reference to greek pagan nature gods. in some early versions of the book, "the piper at the gates of dawn" chapter is removed completely.

>> No.14382813

Moor's Last Sigh by Rushdie. I really like the writing style, but I feel the story overall is weaker than Midnight's Children.