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Reminder to ignore all pseudointellectual rhetoriticians and instead go and read the complete works of Homer, Pindar, Plato, Aristotle, Sophocles, Euripides, Hesiod, Aristophanes, Herodotus, Arrian, Sappho, Plutarch, Ovid, Virgil, Lucretius, Arisoto, Horace, St. Augustine, Marcus Aurelius, Rabelais, Dante, Petrarch, Tasso, Bruno, Boccaccio, Leopardi, Machiavelli, Luther, Cervantes, Chaucer, the Beowulf poet, Chretien de Troyes, Marie de France, Sterne, Burton, Browne, Spencer, Wyatt, Sidney, Percy Shelley, Tennyson, Donne, Pope, Dryden, Bacon, Novalis, Schelling, Schlegel, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Pascal, Lichtenberg, Dickinson, Shakespeare, Ibsen, Strindberg, Dickens, Marlowe, Diderot, Jonson, Goethe, Bunyan, Gibbon, Addison, Smollett, Milton, Johnson, Boswell, Emerson, Quincey, Burke, Spinoza, Leibniz, Hume, Kant, Mary Shelley, Wollstonecraft, Racine, Baudelaire, Valery, Rimbaud, Verlaine, Moliere, Montaigne, Browning, Gray, Holderlin, Schiller, Shaw, Voltaire, Hugo, Balzac, Zola, Colette, Duras, Dumas, Stendhal, Nerval, Flaubert, Mallarme, Malraux, Chateaubriand, Artaud, Poe, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Blake, Byron, Keats, Arnold, Pater, Walter Scott, Swinburne, Rossetti, Carroll, William James, Henry James, Hawthorne, Twain, Melville, Dewey, Bergson, Whitehead, George Eliot, Williams, Frost, Cummings, Crane, Stevens, Whitman, Plath, Trakl, Rilke, Celan, Montale, Neruda, Lorca, Tagore, Manzoni, Peake, Murdoch, Wharton, Wilde, Faulkner, O'Connor, Passos, Nietzsche, Marx, Adorno, Bloch, Lukacs, Bakhtin, Hamsun, Pushkin, Gogol, Tolstoy, Turgenev, Chekhov, Andreyev, Bely, Bulgakov, Gonchorov, Camoes, Pessoa, Queiroz, Saramago, Paz, Borges, Bloy, Pirandello, Huysmans, Lautreamont, Schwob, Casares, Bolano, Cortazar, Lima, Donoso, de Assis, Carpentjier, Celine, Marquez, Unamuno, Gracq, Gide, Jarry, Camus, Conrad, Wells, Hardy, Salinger, Anderson, Lawrence, Forster, Hrabal, Swift, Bronte, Woolf, Bachelard, Roussel, Beckett, Proust, Nabokov, Joyce, O'Brien, Yeats, Waugh, Heaney, Pinter, Auden, Hofmannsthal, Mann, Musil, Broch, Zweig, Bachmann, Jelinek, Lessing, Laxness, Simenon,Svevo, Levi, Buzzati, Quasimodo, Moravia, Llosa, Walser, Kafka, Babel, Schulz, Transtromer, Kertesz, Pavic, Andric, Grossmann, Linna, Mahfouz, Boll, Grass, Canetti, Pavese, Robbe-Grillet, Blanchot, Perec, Queneau, Calvino, Bernhard, Gass, Barth, Gaddis, Vollmann, Vidal, Hawkes, DeLillo, Pynchon, McCarthy, McElroy, Soseki, Murasaki, Shonagon, Kawabata, Mishima, Akutagawa, Tanizaki, Dazai, Oe, Xingjian, Yan, Kosztolanyi, Gombrowicz, Ishiguro, Eco, Coetzee, Auerbach, Benjamin, Barthes, Pasternak, Derrida, de Man, Kristeva, Deleuze, Bateson, Foucault, Lyotard, Mcluhan, Eichenbaum, Steiner, Munro, Carson, Handke, Arno Schmidt, Theroux, Patrick White, Alfau, Marias, Enard, Claude Simon, Elizabeth Bishop, Markson, Lowry, Bellow, Dara

>> No.14367976

>>14367930
Sorry anon, couldn't hear you over Chad's biceps.

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Thanks bro I needed this.

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>>14367930
H-how's this, Chad?

>> No.14368063

>>14367930
>ignore all pseudointellectual rhetoriticians

>Schopenhauer
>Luther
>Dumas
>Pessoa
>Camus
>Mishima

>> No.14368781

Bump

>> No.14368804

>>14367930
Venus omitted produceth like effects. Mathiolus,epist. 5. l. penult.,[1479]avoucheth of his knowledge, that some through bashfulness abstained from venery, and thereupon became very heavy and dull; and some others that were very timorous, melancholy, and beyond all measure sad.Oribasius,med. collect. l. 6. c. 37, speaks of some,[1480]That if they do not use carnal copulation, are continually troubled with heaviness and headache; and some in the same case by intermission of it.Not use of it hurts many, Arculanus,c. 6. in 9. Rhasis, et Magninus, part. 3. cap. 5, think, because it[1481]sends up poisoned vapours to the brain and heart.And so doth Galen himself hold,That if this natural seed be over-long kept (in some parties) it turns to poison.Hieronymus Mercurialis, in his chapter of melancholy, cites it for an especial cause of this malady,[1482]priapismus, satyriasis, &c. Haliabbas,5. Theor. c. 36, reckons up this and many other diseases. VillanovanusBreviar. l. 1. c. 18, saith,He knew[1483]many monks and widows grievously troubled with melancholy, and that from this sole cause.[1484]Ludovicus Mercatus,l. 2. de mulierum affect. cap. 4, and Rodericus a Castro,de morbis mulier. l. 2. c. 3, treat largely of this subject, and will have it produce a peculiar kind of melancholy in stale maids, nuns, and widows,Ob suppressionem mensium et venerem omissam, timidae, moestae anxiae, verecundae, suspicioscae, languentes, consilii inopes, cum summa vitae et rerum meliorum desperatione, &c., they are melancholy in the highest degree, and all for want of husbands. Aelianus Montaltus,cap. 37. de melanchol., confirms as much out of Galen; so doth Wierus, Christophorus a Vegade art. med. lib. 3. c. 14, relates many such examples of men and women, that he had seen so melancholy. Felix Plater in the first book of his Observations,[1485]tells a story of an ancient gentleman in Alsatia, that married a young wife, and was not able to pay his debts in that kind for a long time together, by reason of his several infirmities: but she, because of this inhibition of Venus, fell into a horrible fury, and desired every one that came to see her, by words, looks, and gestures, to have to do with her,&c.[1486]Bernardus Paternus, a physician, saith,He knew a good honest godly priest, that because he would neither willingly marry, nor make use of the stews, fell into grievous melancholy fits.Hildesheim,spicel. 2, hath such another example of an Italian melancholy priest, in a consultation hadAnno1580. Jason Pratensis gives instance in a married man, that from his wife's death abstaining,[1487]after marriage, became exceedingly melancholy,Rodericus a Fonseca in a young man so misaffected,Tom. 2. consult. 85.To these you may add, if you please, that conceited tale of a Jew, so visited in like sort, and so cured, out of Poggius Florentinus.

>> No.14368868

>>14367930
I wonder what books they read..

>> No.14368948

>>14368868
Brad in the middle barely reads and even then mostly pop-psychology and pop-science books
Chad on the left reads a fair amount, he became Christian after reading books like pensees, he enjoys Russian literature
Thad on the right has read the entire western canon, the ethics forms he basis for his pantheistic beliefs. He’s a rare person that is based enough to recognise that American literature is truly great, respecting Clarel as Melville’s true masterpiece

>> No.14368955

>>14367930
The dude on the right is actually my cousin, name is Riley. He goes through girls like a fat guy goes through pizza, every single one falls in love with him and he refuses to commit. His friends tease him that the girl is his girlfriend and he always says "no way" he had one long term GF from like grade 8 until the end of highschool who wanted to get married and he broke up with. He has told me he thinks sex is too much work. He has a shitload of friends and every christmas party is filled with people including some models and pro sports players. I recognize the guy in the middle but not the guy to the left. he has two younger brothers he's pretty close to, neither are nearly as chad as him. A common saying in the family is "to have the life of riley"

>> No.14368981

>>14368955
His name is Max Hamilton

>> No.14369025

>>14368981
must be a pseudonym. He does some modeling work, but he's a gym and math teacher for his day job. I think he teaches grade 10/11.

>> No.14369532

>>14369025
>>14368955
That dude is dead, anon.

>> No.14369622

>>14367930
It’s a good list but it has a bit of a recency bias and does a total disservice to the pre-moderns. Where is Terence? Where is Horace? Where is Cicero??? Seneca? Tacitus? Thucydides? Boethius? Bede? Von Eschenbach? Etc. I could go on.

Loads of literally who’s at the back end of the list too. I’m sure they’re all pretty good but don’t prioritise them over the classics.

>> No.14369645

>>14369622
OP is a lazy mong so he just shitposts the same list every day without updating it

>> No.14369764

Here is a list of pseudointellectual rhetoriticians that you should ignore. Pursue your literary endeavors instead of poisoning your mind.
Ignore /pol/, anyone on youtube and twitter, kaczynski, traditionalists, hack spiritualists/anti-materialists, reactionaries, accelerationists, nrx, crapitalists, cuckservatives, anyone obsessed with race and nation, boomers, wojak posters, soi wojak posters, americans, the so called "intellectual" so called "dark" web (Peterson, Harris, Shapiro, Weinstein, Rubin, and so on), self help book posters, STEMbugs, mbti posters, yanggang posters, *twitter screencap* posters, justin murphy, quentin
>>14369622
Thucydides will be added. Horace is there. And the writers at the lower end are great. Read Patrick White, Claude Simon, and Evan Dara.
>>14369645
I have updated it.

>> No.14370409

>>14369764
Why Justin Murphy? He's a gifted communicator?

>> No.14371332

>>14367930
Every single one of those were retroactively refuted by Guenon and Parmenides.

>> No.14371382

>>14369764
>stembugs
Nice cope humanities brainlet

>> No.14371394

>>14369764
there's nothing wrong with most of that though

>> No.14371402

What about Juan Filloy?

>> No.14371403

>>14369764
you're basically outing yourself as some kind of faggot socialist by not listing any of their retards

>> No.14372002

ctrl+f
no dostoevsky

what a shit thread

>> No.14372029

>>14372002
a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian

>> No.14372034

>>14371403
>by not listing any of their retards
Like who?

>> No.14372058

>>14371403
And I am a Socialist by the way but yeah give names.

>> No.14372059

>>14372029
are you quoting someone else's opinion because you don't have any original thoughts of your own?

>> No.14372073

>>14372059
The guy literally took tricks used in the penny novels of his time and inserted his "ideas." He's not a good writer.

>> No.14372101

>>14371332
Parmenides and the rest of the presocratics were all dumb and full of unsubstantiated claims that don't follow from anything

>> No.14372107

>>14368955
>A common saying in the family is "to have the life of riley"

Almost believable up until this

>> No.14372110

MOGGED

>> No.14372250

very based