/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14342883]

>Houellebecq
>DFW
>Pynchon
>Mishima
>Nabokov
>Ellis
Why are all the greatest writers of our time right wingers?

[Anonymous No.14342889]

>>14342883
Define "right-wing"

[Anonymous No.14342892]

this is the most boring raid ever

[Anonymous No.14342893]

>>14342883
Houellebecq isn’t right wing

[Anonymous No.14342895]

>>14342889
Someone who isn't left wing

[Anonymous No.14342902]

>>14342889
Someone who isn't left wing

[Anonymous No.14342903]

>>14342889
The right side of an aeroplane

[Anonymous No.14342929]

>>14342883
How do you even define right-wing? Academia loves Nabokov and the establishment considers him the guy that wrote the pedo novel. He only differs in that he believe in elitism and objective value in art and despised communist and SJW types, but was very opposed to racism. Houllebecq and Ellis piss off intellectuals, but believe in some progressive views. Mishima supported Imperial Japan, but was a gay manlet that wrote about spirituality. DFW same as Nabokov to an extent and he slept with lots of women. Pynchon is probably a Hilary supporter and so would be DFW. Nabokov might support Trump, but he'd think the puritan conservatives and Ted Cruz types were retarded.

[Anonymous No.14342934]

>>14342929
>Nabokov might support Trump, but he'd think the puritan conservatives and Ted Cruz types were retarded.
I say this because he admired Nixon

[Anonymous No.14342940]

>>14342929
>Pynchon is probably a Hilary supporter and so would be DFW
Pynchon wouldn't vote and DFW was a registered Republican

[Anonymous No.14342944]

>>14342929
Based.
Right-wingers BTFO.

[Anonymous No.14343162]

>Shortly before Against the Day was published, Pynchon's prose appeared in the program for "The Daily Show: Ten Fu@#ing Years (The Concert)", a retrospective on Jon Stewart's comedy-news broadcast The Daily Show.[94]

[Anonymous No.14343173]

>>14342883
Nabokov married a Jewess and liked Negroes and interracial marriages in America. Pretty fucking far from right-wing.

[Anonymous No.14343186]

>>14342929
>Mishima supported Imperial Japan, but was a gay manlet that wrote about spirituality.
Because, as we all know, being a gay manlet means you're leftist and all spirituality is leftist.
>Pynchon is probably a Hilary supporter and so would be DFW
He always seemed to me like a Bernie guy.
>Nabokov might support Trump, but he'd think the puritan conservatives and Ted Cruz types were retarded.
Nabokov is dead.

[Anonymous No.14343189]

>>14342883
The terms have changed drastically to the term where they're meaningless. From both wings inception during the French revolution being on the left described those against the monarch and for reform and those on the right supported the monarch. Now from what I understand, being on the left means open border socially liberal types for a welfare state and those on the right are for capitalism for cheap consumer goods, nationalist, and traditionalism though with free trade you're going to have constant migration both domestically and internationally which prevents any sort of tradition to return. Even those on the far right, or alt right, fail to recognize the deeper problem of what causes mass immigration or the degradation of religion and traditional values. As for the modern far left, it is too caught up in social justice to make a change. Hint: it's probably the system that's enabling multinational corporations to reach that position in the first place.

A much better question for OP is to ask why the greatest writers were more numerous in the 19th to early 20th century while there aren't any modern day equivalent to Dostoevsky.

[Anonymous No.14343205]

>>14342929
After reading most of his bibliography I don’t think Pynchon would vote

[Anonymous No.14343347]

>>14343173
Sounds like your average conservative these days

[Anonymous No.14343697]

>>14342929
Nabokov was definitely right wing, he was from aristocratic background, loved traditional USA and despised communism because of what it did to his family and country

[Anonymous No.14343899]

>>14342883
It only seems that way because you are an Anglo, and this stupid.

[Anonymous No.14343910]

>>14342883
At least half of the people on that list are about as left wing as you can get

[Anonymous No.14343911]

>>14343697
>traditional
>USA

[Anonymous No.14343912]

>>14343697
Explain his love of niggers, then.

[Anonymous No.14343915]

explain how houellebecq is right wing.
Also ellis is shit

[Anonymous No.14343917]

>>14343205
Supposedly, the new photo of Pynch was taken because he was voting

[Anonymous No.14343942]

>>14342889
adam and eve not adam and steve
there are only two genders
against killing babies

you know, sane people.

>>14342883
Because the ideology of the left kills creativity. The left can't meme isn't a meme itself for no reason. They literally and truly are NPCs.

[Anonymous No.14343954]

>>14343186
>Mishima
I think that's what anon's point was though. The Japanese right-wing is completely different when compared to the US's right wing. Mishima is undeniably right wing in his own context, but I can't imagine an American or even European conservative finding much commonality with Mishima's writing.

[Anonymous No.14344007]

>>14343912
It's literally because the only exposure to blacks he ever really had was with one of his colleagues at Cornell. He lived in mostly white places his entire life: Russia, Switzerland, and liberal college campuses in the 60s. Plus he admired Pushkin who was part black.

[Anonymous No.14344131]

>>14342883
>Pynchon
>right wing
Don't skip Vineland, lads.

[Anonymous No.14344169]

>>14343917
Paparazzi need to be gassed

[Anonymous No.14344182]

>>14343942
>the left kills creativity
Meanwhile, Tolstoy, Melville, Hugo, Willam Blake, George Eliot and many other authors all espouse values that would be considered "left-leaning".

[Anonymous No.14344296]

>>14344182
Not a single one is a leftist in the contemporary sense of the word. Melville champions "White Supremacy," also has characters also befriend negroes because of their simplicity. You could say he's both.

[Anonymous No.14344332]

Houellebecq isn't really right wing, certainly not in the way you hope anyway. Mishima and Nabokov are hardly of 'our time' either.

[Anonymous No.14344347]

>>14344332
This

[Anonymous No.14344764]

>>14343917
is he invisible though? I can see him fine.

[Anonymous No.14344964]

>>14344764
See who fine?

[Anonymous No.14345159]

>>14343912
What about it? You don't have to be racist to be right-wing.

[Anonymous No.14345206]

almost all older left-wing writers would be considered right-wing by today's standards
and almost all older right-wing writers would be considered far-right by today's standards

how do you even define left or right wing?
if it has something to do with current hot button topics (only two genders, dont give a shit about identitarian politics, except for mainstream ones - which ironic in of itself) than most people would be right-wing. and yet many voted for Crooked Hilary.

[Anonymous No.14345233]

>>14342883
>ellis
absolutely terrible bait

[Anonymous No.14345267]

>>14345206
>how do you even define left or right wing?
It's rather simple: right-wingers support tradition and hierarchies, left-wingers oppose them.
>if it has something to do with current hot button topics (only two genders, dont give a shit about identitarian politics, except for mainstream ones - which ironic in of itself) than most people would be right-wing. and yet many voted for Crooked Hilary.
Who a person votes for often has little relation to their personal philosophy and ideology.

[Anonymous No.14345558]

>>14342883
>Pynchon


nigga

[Anonymous No.14345657]

>>14342940
>DFW was a registered Republican
don't necessarily disbelieve you but sauce?

[Anonymous No.14345662]

>>14344296
>Melville champions "White Supremacy,"
wrong

[Anonymous No.14345765]

>>14343912
I don't get it. There are a lot of right wing black folk out there. Of are you of those guys who think right wing means KKK grand wizard

[Anonymous No.14345876]

>>14342883
Mishima is the only right-winger in that list, though I suspect this is bait.

[Anonymous No.14345879]

>>14345876
nabokov is arguable. he calls himself a "classical liberal" but has some plainly elitist views