/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14332760]

Well, /lit/? Is he happy?

[Anonymous No.14332762]

>>14332760
It looks like good fun desu.

[Anonymous No.14332810]

>>14332760
On the way down he is.

[Anonymous No.14332882]

>>14332760
Its a classic con. It doesn't matter whether hes happy. Hes commanded to do it. The idea that it matters whether hes happy is vile, hedonisitc individualist poison. Hes commanded to serve and serve he shall.

[Anonymous No.14332958]

>>14332760
We must imagine so.

[Anonymous No.14333004]

"Are you happy?"

[Anonymous No.14333110]

>>14332760
A Frenchman ordered me to assume that he is.

[Anonymous No.14333128]

>>14332760
depends how hot it is outside

[Anonymous No.14333472]

>>14332760
Camus argument is a logical fallacy: appeal to emotion.

[Anonymous No.14333534]

>>14332882
He embraces the futility of his fate and accepts it. He absolves himself of the tortured need for cosmic justification, of god-ordained explanation.

[Anonymous No.14333544]

>>14332882
God isn't real.

[Anonymous No.14333560]

>>14332760
does embracing absurdism mean having a dark twisted sense of humour? :>)

[Anonymous No.14334515]

>>14333534
If there is fate, how can it be futile? If there is no fate- how can it not be futile? At any rate: just because we dont know the purpose of our existence doesn't imply futility. To assume so is typical human arrogance.
>accepts it
He's bound. Whether he accepts it or not hes bound by whatever god. He absolves himself of his suffering by pretending his task is for him when it is in fact given to him by divine mandate and only justified as divine punishment, which task only makes sense with a transcendent explanation.
>>14333544
Yes (H)e is. Believe what you want. Its your loss. I pray (H)e guides you anon.

[Anonymous No.14334520]

>>14332760
I will never understand how the same person who wrote the Myth of Sisyphus also wrote Christian Metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.14334531]

He probably is, but probably like once a month he realizes not only the absurdity of what he's doing but also that all this effort could be put to better use literally anywhere else and then he remembers all those people up in the real world putting less effort for infinitely greater reward and knows no matter how hard he pushes that boulder he will never taste that life again and allows himself - again this is only once a month - to be consumed by rage and jealousy and despair at the cruel injustice of his damnation...

and then he gets back on the boulder autism and makes it fun for a while.

but like once a month he probably falls apart and realizes not the absurdity but the injustice of what he's doing and feels like all he's putting into this boulder could be better used in some other life

[Anonymous No.14334533]

He probably is, but probably like once a month he realizes not only the absurdity of what he's doing but also that all this effort could be put to better use literally anywhere else and then he remembers all those people up in the real world putting less effort for infinitely greater reward and knows no matter how hard he pushes that boulder he will never taste that life again and allows himself - again this is only once a month - to be consumed by rage and jealousy and despair at the cruel injustice of his damnation...

and then he gets back on the boulder autism and makes it fun for a while.

[Anonymous No.14334551]

>>14334515
>(H)e
more like (S)he

[Anonymous No.14334553]

>>14332760
no because hes mentally whipping himself to force himself higher

[Anonymous No.14334559]

Only if he lives authentically

[Anonymous No.14334566]

>>14332760
sounds cucked. enjoy your suffering faggot, i'm in it to win it.

[Anonymous No.14334594]

Yes
Hike a long trail

[Anonymous No.14334597]

Camus is a joke enjoyed by pseuds. He cirticized christianity for being a cope and then says we muat imagine him happy, which is just a far worse cope.

[Anonymous No.14334634]

>>14332760
no, he needs christ

[Anonymous No.14335666]

[Anonymous No.14335738]

Sisyphus had his glory times, he lived life to its maximum and he is literally escaping death by rolling the boulder.
the man who is suffering from a Sisyphean life suffers much more than Sisyphus because unlike Sisyphus he never had a day of glory, he never lived life to its maximum and he still suffers from repetitive futile work that makes him feel like a machine. he is getting punished without even doing anything

[Anonymous No.14335786]

>>14332760
Only if he's a normie idiot

[Anonymous No.14335816]

>>14335786
>REEE NORMANS HAPPY

[Anonymous No.14335834]

>>14335816
>LE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Normies have kids, are you implying unhappy folks like to share their unhappiness with their own offspring?

[Anonymous No.14336020]

As a geologist, i can relate.

[Anonymous No.14336134]

>>14332760
achievable natty?

[Anonymous No.14336776]

>>14334520
Is Christian Metaphysics any good? I'm on a theolofy binge right now and want to know if it will be a nice piece in my collection

[Anonymous No.14338210]

>>14334515
>If there is fate, how can it be futile? If there is no fate- how can it not be futile?
explain

[Anonymous No.14338234]

>>14332760
you were made only for that, its your vocation

[Anonymous No.14338277]

>>14335834
>Normies have kids, are you implying unhappy folks like to share their unhappiness with their own offspring?
...yes?

[Anonymous No.14338324]

As it was already said in this thread Camus is appealing to the readers emotions and using the same cane he said humans use to ignore suffering - hope. I do not know if Sisyphus is happy, but what I do know is that he lives life to the limit.

Absurdism proposes that by understanding the meaninglessness of life, our main drivers being carrots on sticks and our history inevitable end to the abyss of oblivion, the logical option for a rational mind would do, by accepting all those rules, is suicide. However, by understanding the logic and the architecture of this plan, Camus proposed that we deny our punishment by fully accepting it and finding wholeness in this task.

Hope, happiness or any other cane is irrelevant, staying alive while endorsing Camus findings is an act of rebellion against the unknown and our inexorable fate.

[Anonymous No.14338382]

>>14332882
To serve means to be happy, the person or the cause you serve gives you a purpose.

[Anonymous No.14338464]

>>14338324
Well, I don’t know if suicide is the ultimate conclusion, just accepting that things will happen outside of our immediate control. Why rush the enevitable? Suicide in response to immense discomfort is understable, but of itself I don’t get.

[Anonymous No.14339222]

>>14338277
Well goodness gracious great balls of fire

[Anonymous No.14339250]

>>14333534
This seems like the real answer.

[Anonymous No.14339266]

>>14336134
Yah. do atlas stones

[Anonymous No.14339280]

>>14334515
There is futility in life's suffering. Suffering is slightly different than pain, though. Sisyphus suffers because the work is never done, but he is not in pain. The futility is that you cannot eliminate the suffering of life no matter what you do, only alleviate it temporarily like Sisyphus. To try and do otherwise is foolish, futile, and if you're into the whole Man vs. God religious argument, it's similar to affronting God.

The whole idea is that humans could not be satisfied with a happy, boring life, so God creates suffering in the form of work to keep people fulfilled, but working. I don't believe in God literally either but I think this idea has a point to it.

[Anonymous No.14340429]

>>14332760
He's a man on a mission and determined to see it carried out, so that gives him motivation and meaning. Being 'happy' sounds very arbitrary, but he sure is more happy than sitting on his arse with no aspiration.