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S TIER: Notes from underground, TBK
A TIER: Demons, C&P, The Double
B TIER: The idiot, The Gambler

>> No.14315482

Demons was B tier desu
Most of the book is a boring slog
I get it Fyodor, out-of-touch liberals are silly

>> No.14315493

what's S mean?

>> No.14315498

>>14315493
S stands for Slut tier
as in absolutely based

>> No.14315501

>>14315469
Notes is overrated, the idiot is better than crime

>> No.14315512

>>14315498
sluttier than what? what's the frame of reference? and what does based mean?

>> No.14315521

>>14315512
sluttier than the prudes
based is a pun on bast (basted in semen)

>> No.14315541

>>14315521
so sluts and semen are good things?

>> No.14315543

>>14315541
go fuck yourself

>> No.14315544

>>14315541
Si Senior
sluts basted in semen = good thing

>> No.14315557

Why don't more people familiar with Dostoyevsky? I'm 18 and he's my favorite author but it seems like everyone else my age doesn't care about good literature, just YA crap

>> No.14315702

>>14315557
OK boomer

>> No.14315724

>>14315557
>notlikeotherguys

>> No.14315737

>>14315557
probably bait but im nothing more than a trend follower
>am i the only 14 year old who listens to Johnny Cash? born in the wrong generation, amirite?

>> No.14315773

>>14315557
just finished TBK, it was trash

>> No.14315777

>>14315557
based

>> No.14316120

only read notes and demons
what should i read next?

>> No.14316129

>>14315469
SS: Tolstoy

>> No.14316133

>>14316120
c&p then idiot and finish with brothers k

>> No.14316136

>>14316133
what about the double and the gambler?

>> No.14316146

>>14315557
I'm 12 years old and dostoyevsky is a genious

>> No.14316182

>>14315469
S: Karamazov, Demons
A: C&P, The Idiot
B: The Gambler, The Double

*fixed that for you

>> No.14316186

>>14316182
Oh, forget Notes. B tier tbqh

>> No.14316189

I agree with you but C&P should be B tier and The Idiot should be S Tier

>> No.14316355

>>14316189
Idiot is very underrated

>> No.14316514

From what I've read

S TIER: TBK, C&P
A TIER: Notes, The Gambler, Demons
B TIER: Poor People
C TIER: The Idiot

All are great, the Idiot the least, it's still better than 99% of literature

>> No.14317143

>>14315469
What about House of the Dead?

>> No.14317163

>>14317143
B

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>>14315557
Based , 19 myself in about 3 months and have read his most known books:
C&P>TBK (the great inquisitor chapter literally fucked my shit up i wish i could find more of this in literature) >the idiot > notes; how good is demons compared to the ones listed above ?

>> No.14317376

He's great, but doesn't quite live up to the hype for me.
The psychological understanding in his writing is good, and great considering the era, but I think Gogol shows a greater understanding of society and human nature, even if he addresses it playfully.

>> No.14318841

>>14315501
>Notes is overrated
why do you think so?

>> No.14318862

>>14315557
you probably just got lucky in your exposures
unless you're just trying to seem special, which is literally what everyone your age does

>> No.14319203

Best translations:

Notes, Demons, The idiot, BK- pevear and volok

Crime and punishment- mcduff

>> No.14319223

>>14315469
I’ve only read the s tier ones

>> No.14319288

>>14315557
I read tbk when I was 16 and it changed my life, ended my atheism for one. Other young people aren’t interested in or exposed to much good literature (or any liturature for that matter) But they are interested in other good things and most of them would not be improved by liturature. Reading seriously has always been and remains a relatively rare path because most people have no need for good books, for some reason you and others who read have developed a type of curiosity and drive to expand your mind in a particular way which has lead you to such books, others are driven to succeed in sports, others to business. while you may feel superior to your less well read piers, by virtue of your own rarity and awareness, this is petty and only inflates your ego, if you look around you will see people who are in fact happy and worthwhile who have never read a single book.

>> No.14319733

No one talking about Memoirs from the House of the Dead?

>> No.14320084

>>14317376
i felt like i got nothing out of dead souls when i read it, whereas notes / cp / tbk were profoundly important when i read them in senior year of HS
is there another of his books youd rec? should i reread dead souls?

>> No.14320198

>>14320084
His plays and short fiction. Dostoevsky might be deeper, but Gogol seemed to 'get' humans and groups intuitively.

>> No.14320524

Some of the best works of literature I've ever read tier: Brothers Karamazov, White Nights
Really enjoyable, profound: Notes, The Idiot
Alright: Crime and Punishment, The Gambler, his other notable short stories

>> No.14320909

S TIER: TBK, The Idiot, Notes
A/B/C TIER: all the other stuff I haven't read yet

>> No.14320951

>>14318862
Yea, kids are always trying so hard, unlike us adults who are trying very hard to pretend their too cool for school and just above it all, who never carry pretense at all.
Get the fuck over yourself, bud, the vast majority of people between 25 and 60 are just as damn childish as they were at 18. Keep pretending people actually mature or develop taste just because they get older.

>> No.14320982

>>14320951
sounds like something an 18 year old would say

>> No.14320989

>>14315557
I found a box of my dad's old books in the garage and I can't stop reading them. They don't make books like that anymore. Meanwhile, my stupid friends just play call-of-duty and catch pokemons.

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Bump

>> No.14322122

>>14315501
Brothers k
Crime
Demons
Notes
House of the dead
Raw youth
Idiot.

>> No.14322136

>>14316146
You have to be 18 years old to use 4chan.

>> No.14322253

>>14315469
Adolescent > notes.

>> No.14322362

can someone give me a tutorial in these tiers

what do SBA mean?

>> No.14322397

>>14322362
Its literally just a-f tier just like grades in school
With s meaning special. Like above a tier even. Reserved for only the most important of books(or any other form of media that you are ranking)

>> No.14322409

>>14322253
Isn't adolescent shit?

>> No.14322422

>>14322397
>>14322362
It's an anime thing

>> No.14322527

Hi i am currently reading demons
It says that in the appendix they have a chapter that was removed called “at tikbons”
It says it was originally part 2 chapter 9
I want to read it as part of the book
There is a chapter 9 in the book
Would it be best to read this immediately after chapter 8 or should it be read after the chapter 9 they have put in the book? Thank you

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>>14322527
Don't ever start a post with hi.
Don't ever end a post with thank you.
Always lurk more

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>>14322531

>> No.14322879

>>14315469
my ranking of them in a 10 and /4 scale is:
c&p 8.5
idiot 8.75
notes 9
demons 9.25
tbk 9.5

for reference I consider anna k 9.5 and moby dick 9.75

>> No.14322939

>>14317376
I present Anon, the ultimate judge of psychology, society, and human nature

>> No.14322951

I found Crime and Punishment far more profound than TBK.
Am I stupid?

>> No.14322989

>>14322527
Read it after chapter 8

>> No.14322993

>>14322951
Did Rebellion and The Grand Inquisitor go over your head or something?

>> No.14323042

>>14322993
The Grand Inquisitor is just a fancy exposition of the problem of evil. Beautifully put, but it provided nothing new. As far as Rebellion I am not sure what you are referring to.

>> No.14323077

>>14322993
The Devil and Grand Inquisitor Chapters in TBK were god tier, but when we look at both work as complete entities, C&P is up there with TBK, and it all comes down to preference.

>> No.14323118

I'd like to hear from people that disliked notes why they disliked it. For now I only read notes and c&p and while I really like both, notes is my favorite and one of the best books I ever read.

>> No.14323128

>>14315702
Hi retard

>> No.14323202

>>14323042
Grand Inquisitor goes much further than problem of evil. It posits that the Age of Enlightenment is really the age of satan, and predicts science failing to deliver salvation to humanity eventually, which honestly seems to be where we're headed right now.

Rebellion is the preceding chapter, and is much more focused on the problem of evil.

>> No.14323205 [DELETED] 

>>14315469
https://discord.gg/5K6hxF9

>> No.14324340

friendly reminder of nabokov's thoughts on dosto:
>Dislike him. A cheap sensationalist, clumsy and vulgar. A prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. Some of his scenes are extraordinarily amusing. Nobody takes his reactionary journalism seriously.

fuck you pussies

>> No.14324352

>>14323118
I found it funny

>> No.14324409

>>14324340
nabokov was retarded

>> No.14324465

Notes from dead house (or however the fuck you wanna call the book) is amazing, where my gulag bros at

>> No.14324507

>>14315469
Just started reading about how he thinks Russians are realistic romantics.
Love this shit, desu, really bending the way I perceive things.
>>14315557
there's more than 7,000,000,000 humans
I am also 18, I am also reading notes
you're not special
neck yourself

>> No.14324510

What does S A and B stand for?

>> No.14324518

>>14324510
Its video game terminology. S is the highest tier followed by A and B

>> No.14324520

>>14324510
Shit
Ass
Booty

>> No.14324527

>>14324352
It is, his arguments are very compelling and as you read you feel as though you are reading from someone who's above you in terms of moral conscience when you consider he satirises his characters and that those characters also are more profound in world view than you,.

>> No.14325753

bump

>> No.14325907

>>14315469
hugely dumb take

The Idiot and The Gambler are both excellent and so is the Double