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[Anonymous No.14315139]

Talking about Schopenhauer or Spinoza has made me lose friends.

[Anonymous No.14315144]

you can only blame yourself

[Anonymous No.14315145]

>>14315144
Their works offend my peers.

[Anonymous No.14315146]

Not everyone is worth being friends with

[Anonymous No.14315149]

Really? Sometimes I'll quote his stuff on women and get a laugh

[Anonymous No.14315158]

>>14315149
yea that's sort of funny, but life diminishing things, such as no free will or that everyone is inherently selfish seems to strike a nerve

[Anonymous No.14315163]

>this convo is heading in a bad direction
>should i withdraw from the dangerous waters and preserve my friendship?
>theyre still my friends, i just now know i cant talk to them about X and Y
>NAH, TIME TO FLEX THESE PHILOSOPHY NUTS ON THEM
>"guys, how come no one wants to be my fren"

[Anonymous No.14315166]

>>14315163
But then again i have strengthened other frenships. But i still find it weird how philosophy will butthurt people to such an extent.

[Anonymous No.14315175]

>>14315139
How did it make you lose friends? How butthurt would they be by Evola?

[Anonymous No.14315181]

>>14315166
im hesitant to believe the strengthening of your friendship came from the demise of your others.
you might have found someone else who also enjoy talking philosophy, but theyre not your friend because you took a philo shit on your other friends. theyre your friend because they like philo too.
people are fickle and weird. no need to make people butthurt unless theres a good reason to.
especially when it, by all intents and purposes, seems to stem from a exercise of vanity.

[Anonymous No.14315194]

>>14315181
I didn't say butthurting some of my friends strengthened others, i meant talking about philosophy has strengthened frenships with frens that also like it.

Also >Exercise of vanity
Please elaborate, i'm very keen on psychology stuff. Are you thinking i do this to portray some sort of "oh yea i'm so smart, look i read books and do deep thoughts" kind of thing?

[Anonymous No.14315207]

>>14315175
Because both Spinoza and Schopenhauer talk about life diminishing shit, and i guess my friends didn't enjoy any of it.

[Anonymous No.14315238]

>>14315207
See there's your problem. You think that your friends want to hang out and then hear some depressing shit? No, they want to go out and have fun

[Anonymous No.14315239]

>>14315139
If you had read Schopenhauer, you'd know that a true man of inner worth would do better to be without friends than to debase himself by such associations.

[Anonymous No.14315242]

>>14315238
But i enjoy having discussions about it, i don't think it's all that unreasonable to expect others to find it interesting too.

[Anonymous No.14315269]

>>14315242
Not him, but I found that almost everyone likes talking about philosophy. It really is an exception when someone finds it boring/annoying

[Anonymous No.14315286]

>>14315194
yeah. im thinking someone dumb enough to lose friends over something as trite as a philo discussion is a
>"oh yea i'm so smart, look i read books and do deep thoughts kind of person"

there was probably a point in the convo where it clearly was treading muddy waters. there was probably a point where one of the participants made a negative reaction stronger than normally associated with friendly banter. there was probably a point where you felt the blood pumping through your veins and your heart rate increasing because "shit just got teeeeense"
and you chose to keep pushing forward anyway.

[Anonymous No.14315296]

>>14315286
Got it

[Anonymous No.14315300]

>>14315286
But let's be honest, butthurting NPCs is based

[Anonymous No.14315322]

>>14315300
Not when they're your friends

[Anonymous No.14315327]

>>14315322
Let's call it "taking out the trash"

[Anonymous No.14315362]

>>14315242
Losing friends because they didn't have as high of an interest as you in philosophy is stupid. You say you have friends that do like philosophy. Good, talk about that with them and discuss something else with the friends that aren't as interested.

[Anonymous No.14315370]

>>14315145
Why does Spinoza offend them?

[Anonymous No.14315372]

>>14315139
Now imagine if you explain the categorical imperative to normies.

[Anonymous No.14315378]

>>14315370
His stuff regarding social interaction and the affections. Also some stuff about might is right and whatever

[Anonymous No.14315383]

>>14315370
Oh and how God (or Existence) doesn't give a fuck, and has no human traits and is not looking out for you.

[Anonymous No.14316627]

>>14315383
Are your friends religious tweens?

[Anonymous No.14316673]

And? If I could, I would ghost all of my friends and spend my time reading instead. Too bad I can't do that.

[Anonymous No.14316900]

>>14315139
Cope friendcel, and have sex (by being urself)

[Anonymous No.14316940]

Talking in general has never worked for me, I should mime.

[Anonymous No.14316951]

>>14315139

[Anonymous No.14316997]

>>14315139
I mean, I get why schopie might get that reaction, but I can't even imagine someone soft enough to get offended by Spinoza. That's just pathetic.
>>14315269
This
Most people have a passing interest in philosophy, even if they know nothing about it.
There's only a small subset that cares enough to really study it, and another small set who deliberately avoid it. Most people are somewhere in between.
I can't imagine wanting to be around people who are genuinely put off by philosophy, how could you enjoy the company of somebody who is hostile to any sort of self examination? That sounds awful.
Of course there's a difference between casually discussing philosophy and dropping schopie on someone who hasn't even heard of plato.

[Anonymous No.14317033]

>>14316940
You should dance...