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Do you guys keep a journal?

>> No.14313381

>>14313360
Yes, I also write with my left hand and backwards, just as my papi did.

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>>14313360
I used to back in my early-to-mid-twenties, but I realized that most of my entries were trite, maudlin nonsense. And I never took my own advice, so I eventually stopped altogether.

In hindsight, I kind of wish I had kept it up, but it doesn't bother me that I didn't.

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>>14314037
>And I never took my own advice, so I eventually stopped altogether.
Really makes you think.

>> No.14314161

I used to, then one day I read it over and it was awful. Realizing that I could die unexpectedly on any day of the week and lose all control over who saw it, I knew it had to burn.

>> No.14314732

>>14314161
It'd make for an interesting insight into who you were as a person after your death though.

>> No.14314782

I don't have anything to write about except for work and the latest movie I've watched or book I've read desu

>> No.14314801

>>14314037
>maudlin
It's a good thing you stopped.

>> No.14314822

>>14313360
I keep one about my experiences with prostitutes and hentai consumption

>> No.14314823

>>14313360
I did. I vowed not to read it for a year. When the year was up, after I finished reading, I wanted to kill myself for the first time in my life.

>> No.14314843

>>14314823
Why?

>> No.14314876

>>14314843
The best I can explain it is if a hamster was picked up and saw the labyrinth it was in from above.
The patterns...the patterns.

>> No.14314889

No. I don't want someone to find it and use it to get me red flagged or some bullshit.

>> No.14314905

>>14313360
Yeah, but I'm very inconsistent with it. I only really open it up when an occasion of significant sadness occurs or I'm mulling over regrets and need to put it to paper.

>> No.14314984

>>14314876
But you're supposed to learn from those patterns, anon. You saw them and are now acutely aware that they exist. Now you can work on a way to correct your course

>> No.14315000

>>14314984
That is very true, my friend. But my initial reaction was one of despair. You know that blinding moment of painful clarity?
I took the appropriate steps since then, and used it as an odd sort of manual.
It helped that I was very clinical about it, daily entries with as much detachment as I could, almost writing it in 3d person.

>> No.14315049

>>14314984
>>14315000
What patterns are you guys talking about and how do you correct them?

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>>14315049
if you have not seen the ZLRG then you must earn it.

Praise be to Him who descends.

>> No.14315193

Of course. I write story ideas, essay outlines, diary entries, really anything. I think everyone should keep one. Whether it be digital or physical.

>> No.14316801

I do, but nothing interesting happens in my life so I mostly write down my thoughts on whatever I read/movie I watched and the people I pass on street on my way to uni. I think it makes me more observant or makes my memory better because at the start I would write down ~3 people and now i average 20 and with more detail.

>> No.14317914

>>14313360
Yeah, and I update my journal somewhat frequently.

>> No.14318059
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>>14313360
> Pic related
> Left is journal/planner/notes
> Right is specifically dream journal

I call the left one my “second brain”; it stores and sorts out things I can’t keep up with otherwise. It’s where I jot down and store everything I need held together, and it’s where I sort of... stat the progress of my life. The orange one is legit just for dreams, because I dream almost every night.

>> No.14318063

>>14313360
I used to. I haven't made any notes in mine for over a year though. I wrote several and gave them to random people.

>> No.14318095

>>14313360
Yes and it's full of autistic nonsense.

>> No.14318102

>>14313360
>>14318059

And to clarify I don’t write down my thoughts in a traditional journalistic way. It’s not a diary. It’s like a book of stats. Relevant quotes, notes from meetings, pages to remember sorted by subject (a page on this, a page on that). Lists of books I’ve completed, lists of books to get. Weekly planners, notes on future appointments, brainstorming, outlining... this kind of stuff.

>> No.14318147

>a people read your diary
what would they think of you?
In my case - this guy keeps going on and on about the same thing.

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>>14318147
If they read my dream diary they’d think I was a colossal sexually repressed faggot

> They’d be right

>> No.14318174

>>14318154
just act on your desires, no one cares about homosexuality.

>> No.14318243

>>14318174
I say faggot not in the homosexual sense. I got messed up when I was a kid and now I’m into really rough shit and forced stuff. It doesn’t mix well with society. I’m married too and my wife’s great but we don’t get to fuck too often due to our home situation. I just wish I could nail the shit out of her in a very objectifying way more. So in my dreams I’m like violently skullfucking co-workers or assfucking the work thot in front of her loser boyfriend. Not socially acceptable.

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>>14318063
Nigga u wot?

>> No.14318380

>>14315085
What is this ZLGR

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>>14318059

>>14318102

Base.

I have a journal filled with languages and grammar notes . I try to understand the meta of everything , so I usually have meta analysis on human nature . It is written in my secret language

>> No.14318424

>>14318386
Is the secret language just yellow ching chong speak or is it coded because I am interested in writing my more spicy dreams in code

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>>14318424
It is simplify English grammar and kanji, each letter contain a corresponding English counterpart, everything is spelled like how it is sound . I can write easily but struggle to reading it .

>> No.14318837

>>14318528
This is based. When did you start this?

>> No.14319024

8-10 pages a day without fail.

>> No.14319217

Has anyone tried those smart notebooks? I have a plain ol' journal, but thinking of adding a smart one into my writing routine.

>> No.14319381

>>14318837
a year a go .
i made the alphabet , while i was in class . and modify the grammar as time goes on .

>> No.14319429

I keep a journal of what i read, my life kinda sucks so i don't think i want to keep a real journal

>> No.14319963

>>14319217
Why? What does it do for you? Serious question.

>> No.14320053

>>14313360
Yep. I journal my dreams, food intake, and spiritual practice.

>> No.14320183

>>14313360
I haven't wrote in mine since 2018

>> No.14320219

>>14319381
I've made my own alphabet too but it sucks.
So you're quite literally writing a word as you hear it? Like, "Even" = "Iveune" or "Study" = "Steudi" ? You're a genius.

>> No.14320234

>>14313360
dear diary,
today OP wad a faggot

>> No.14320237

>>14313360
yes. ive been doing so for a couple years now. there i put things like how i was feeling and brainstormed story ideas.
i actually just finished looking back on an older journal entry and it's kinda put me in a sad mood. cant help but feel like im trading parts of myself... but this is what i asked for so... prayers heard i guess. And to be honest it's better off this way.

>> No.14320287

>>14320237
>cant help but feel like im trading parts of myself
huh?

>> No.14320300

>>14319024
how the fuck do you write so much? honest question

>> No.14320363

>>14320300
answer >>14319024
or you are larping

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I got into writing in a notebook that was lying around in my apartment, it kept me sane during an excruciating lonely period. It probably reads like insane ramblings though. It sits unfinished with a few pages empty.

Moved on to Samsung Notes, which turned out to be a mistake since those aren't very portable. Moved on to Markdown notes in Joplin but never got used to the interface... The habit died at that point

Be careful about messing with routines lads.

>> No.14320386

>>14318528
لقد فشفت عن اسرارك يا عمي

>> No.14320410

>>14314889
>not developing your own cipher to write your diary entries
you can at least use the excuse "it's fragments from a novel I'm writing"

>> No.14320422

>>14320386
>لقد فشفت عن اسرارك يا عمي
اسكت يا غبي!
من فضلك أبق الأمر سراً.

>> No.14320438

>>14320287
hobbies, passions, traits, certain feelings lost all together. picking things up which i normally hate... like im slowly becoming just a vehicle for my goals or something... if that makes sense.

>> No.14320440

>>14320300
i always wrote a lot online, chatting and stuff, one day i realized really how much effort i was putting into it, and watching my thoughts dissolve into archives that will never be seen or pried into, and i decided i would rather have it in diaries in my drawer. it's not difficult for me to ream out fifteen or more on days when i feel inspired by something. otherwise, i just have the propensity to ramble on for hours about whatever crosses my mind. some pages are utter dreck, but occasionally something nice comes out of me, so i keep at it. it's become a compulsion now.

>> No.14320465

yup, every single entry is just me chronicling my lonely failure of a life. sometimes i read entries from several years ago and it amazes me that no matter how much things change nothing is permanent and i always end up in the same place, just older

>> No.14320496

>>14320364
well jung's redbook is sorta insane ramblings, you just haven't done the things that put it into context.

>> No.14320497

>>14320422
طالما تسائلت كم شخصا هنا له اضلاع على الثقافات الاخرى

>> No.14320532

>>14320438
Bro are u me I’m the guy with a black and orange notebook pictured above

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>>14320440
Does your hand cramp? Since youth I cannot make it through a page or two without a massive hand cramp.

>> No.14320556

>>14320532
lol maybe in some ways

>> No.14320572

>>14320532
>>14320556
might have to adopt that second brain idea. seems more effective then just dropping something in my phone notes just to not open it again.

>> No.14320589

>>14320537
not really. did hurt my finger until i built a nice little callus there. then i got into this whole utensils thing, sucked into the world of pens. i wish i had a desk though, i think i could get a lot more done with a sort of battle station. i have been considering selling my laptop and vidya devices to buy books, paper, pens and a desk. went through some strange metamorphosis that i won't go into.

>> No.14320647

>>14320497
join

https://discord.gg/NVD8Z34

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>>14320589
I used to have a desk and it’s as useful a tool as you describe, as long as you don’t let a computer be the focal point. I like the super fine tip sharpie pens.

>>14320572
It has made me much more consistent and self aware, to say nothing about the gigantic increase in productivity.

>>14320556
The second brain thing has helped me recognize my own growth, to be fair. It helps with accountability, keeping myself consistent.

>> No.14320671

>>14320219
You realise that's how everyone wrote until standard education and 'correct' spelling?

>> No.14320680

>>14313360
I used to. now i just keep a sketchbook

>> No.14320816

>>14313360
I've kept a journal for 14 years. I write almost every day. It scares me so much that I can't recall a single full day of high school, or even any given day of last year. What did I have for breakfast? Vanished into the ether. I try my best to evoke the feeling of the day, supplemented by physical details.

I read the journal back sometimes for these details but it also makes me sad when I read it so I don't do that much. Just keep going. One day when I'm 40 I'll be able to know what happened every day at age 26.

>> No.14320825

>>14318102
Can you post a pic of a page in your journal? Love seeing how different people does this stuff.

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>>14320825
Left page is weekly planner, followed by the school week.

Underneath that are notes from a meeting with my professor for senior project.

The entire right hand page is an brainstorm in which I revised and re-outlined said senior project. It kinda flows from left to right to bottom, with sections quarantined off. The squiggle marked “Anne 12/8” is a day in which my wife scribbled in my notebook while I was writing for shits and giggles. It was cute.

>> No.14320898

>>14320887
God dammit why is it fucking upside down? Fuck

>> No.14321007

>>14320898
cause you are a phone fag

>> No.14321051

>>14313360
This is making me want to read through my old journals. Digits determine which page I turn to and post.

>> No.14321063

>>14313360
I have a penzu account and every time I read it I cringe then have a existential crisis.

>> No.14321099

>>14321051
The 51st sheet in my 2006-2016 journal. (Writing is too small to photograph, so I'll transcribe).
"I hate feminism and its followers. I don't hate it because I don't believe it, because it doesn't appeal to me, because it's an attempt to change an unwanted situation for some, or because it is trying to achieve the unachievable. Those are all true, but don't inspire the hatred that has grown within me. The reason I hate feminism is because it is manipulative, excessive, close-minded, and power hungry. The followers do not want to bring the bar of the scale to horizontal, rather, to thrust it back the other way, so their cause and members are in control (complete control) through small, individual acts of rudeness, violence, and incompetence. Every commercial (or show for that matter) that depicts a heterosexual couple must also include moments when the beer-drinking, sports-watching husband acts stupid or without any judgment, to which the wife replies with a smug, condescending joke about her mate's idiocy. Look for it, it's everywhere - rarely is the brilliant, level-headed woman wrong. From stand-up comedy to radio and TV commercials to sitcoms - it never misses.
1/2
>>14321063
Here, enjoy some vicarious embarrassment.

>> No.14321102

>>14320887
Thanks anon.
I like the method of having the day/week plan on the right side and random thoughts and ideas on the left.

>> No.14321114

>>14321099
2/2
"This annoys the hell out of me since, with a few novel exceptions, the foundations of all knowledge, art, politics, civilization, and communication were established and advanced by men. The world's most brilliant scientists were all men (Newton, Kepler, Einstein), as were the best writers (Shakespeare, Alighieri, Faulkner, Dostoevsky, Dickens, Joyce, etc.), leaders (Lincoln, Caesar, Bonaparte, FDR, Trudeau), and entertainers (Nicholson, Peck, Olivier, Sinatra, Hope DeNiro, Pacino), and musicians (Young, Dylan, Lennon, Cobain, Moon, John, and Petty), and of course, athletes. So feminists shouldn't act like women have done everything important, because they haven't. I should also note that the women who join feminist groups usually do so b/c of their disappointment of how little they've achieved, and subsequently bring shame and embarrassment to all the good mothers and successful women who chose not to complain about what society has suggested they couldn't do, and instead have just proved it wrong with charm and grace, gaining respect and admiration along the way."
-2 October 2007

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>>14321102
Usually that space below the weekly planner is sufficient to capture misc. shit; here’s a spread of two weeks side by side in which each week’s random notes are contained beneath the respective week’s routine.

I don’t force myself to hold to a system; if I need a whole page to do a project, like I did with this capstone paper’s post-meeting revision (30 page paper), I just do it.

>> No.14321274

>>14321114
> Trudeau

Ah, I see this is a bait post. Nice.

>> No.14321287

>>14313360
I started one and would journal something like once every other week. Haven't done an entry since April now, but I've been eyeing it up these past few days and plan on writing sometime this week.

>> No.14321488

>>14321287
What do you write?

>> No.14321524

>>14321063
Why online? Seriously. Are you just not honest or am I alone in deviancy and unacceptability of thought?

>> No.14321565

>>14321274
The journal is from 2007, before Justin was in politics. It refers to his father, Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Even though he was hated in the west and was controversial as PM, he was widely accepted as an astute politician.

My embarrassing journal entry is 100% real.

>> No.14321594

>>14321565
Another reason I doubted it, aside from my ignorance and the fact that this is an Alaskan snowman-crafting forum, is how well written it is. It’s ahead of its time, or it is to me as I would have been around 15 at the time. I had just discovered tiddies and didn’t give a fuck about feminism if my peepee got tickled.

It’s a little neckbeardy but not incorrect. The fedorah is only in the expression of the thing; it’s like someone who loves Anime but manages to be a not-weeb, or a gay man not being a faggot, a black guy a nigger, and so on.

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>>14313360
Yes, but usually only at times in my life and critical junctures or when I am feeling strongly about an event or experience I deem interesting enough to write about.

>journaled when I was locked in a psychiatric hospital
>journaled when I was going though malpractice-induced withdrawal and fighting for my life
>journaled when I lived out of a frame pack and spent my time hiking through the Southwest deserts
>journaled during my teaching expeditions as an outdoor educator
>journaled when I went back to the destshoot ethnographic documentaries

It’s great looking back at things you wrote years beforehand and seeing how your thinking has transformed. It’s like visiting and conversing with a mind that is no longer your own. Often I wonder what it would be like to stand in a room with myself, a decade younger. What would I tell him? Would I laugh? Give warnings about the future? Would I tell him to relax and trust the process? I don’t know. The journal is the closest thing I have. All I can do is reflect, and learn from everything I’ve done so far.

>> No.14321655

>>14321524
I'm worried someone might go through my shit.

>> No.14321656

>>14321594
haha, that's a surprisingly sharp observation. I was, at the time, an obviously insecure virgin. I had not yet lost my faith, but was on the verge. And I thought it was stoical to not date.