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I've always been very interested in the way food, and the way we eat together shape our behavior and culture and vice versa.

For instance did you know that in old times children were made to stand at the table and were not allowed to speak? Nowadays we invite children to sit down with us and dine as our equals, this is indicative of a paradigm shift in our culture.

Any recommended reading on food history?
Pic related is, in my opinion, the quintessential researcher on the role coffeehouses played in shaping the way we view gender roles in post-restoration England, Brian Cowan.
Kind of an arcane subject I know but surprisingly interesting, I actually think he posts here but I can't confirm.

>> No.14312480

>>14312473
Alas! I am slain. However, did you know I've been cited 1917 times?

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>>14312480

Holy shit is it really you? I'm such a big fan.
I want to pick your brain about pic related. It's obviously an important piece of food history, but what do you think of its impact on art/society?

>> No.14312506

that was probably one of the best threads 2019
made me kek/10

>> No.14312507

>>14312473
Ok, I'll admit, I'm Brian. That was minda stupid of me. So what? It's not like they can fire me. Look: fuck niggers, fuck kikes. Now what Jason? Just fucking try to get rid of me I defy you.

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>>14312473
>>14312495
>>14312480


>mfw these shenanigans will finally push food history into the mainstream and get prof. Cowan the recognition he deserves.

>> No.14312548

>>14312480

>1917 times

Impressive, wow.

>> No.14312560

>>14312506
did someone make screencaps?

>> No.14312571

>>14312473
Chances it was one of his students on a LARP?

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>>14312560
made one just after it 404ed

>> No.14312594

>>14312473

I remember this guy!
My dad used to call him the culinary René Guénon!

>> No.14312626

I’ve never read it but “Sweetness and Power’ looks interesting.

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>>14312473
Then you might be interested in my historical account of how there has been a further paradigm shift with the introduction of children's cereal, and the decay of familial hierarchies that this effected. The exemplary cereal to this end is Count Chocula. Please review this commercial and return: https://youtu.be/sHQ_IEosaT4

Whereas the introduction of children's cereal was one of the first ways in which the child was utterly empowered to control both the economic and (therefore) the power dynamic of the seat of domestic relations, i.e. the family table (see Jean Baudrillard on the placements of the dining table being symbolic of power structures in the home in Le Système des Objets), Count Chocula was the first to give children the power to disrupt and displace the tension of the parent-child master-slave dialectic by the introduction of Corporate-sanctioned occult imagery to unsettle and displace the Mother figure terroristically. (This also exemplifies the twisted failure of Hauntology.) One can argue whether this change is for the better, but it no doubt presaged the consumer culture of youth self-presentation-commodification by over-identifying with the empowerment commodity rather than the nuclear-familial hierarchy.

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>>14312626

Thanks for the suggestion anon.

Looks to be a sort of modern Max Havelaar.

>> No.14312662

>>14312651

That's absolutely insane and I love it.

>> No.14312668

>>14312473
Nice thread, I'm going to read your work, Professor Cowan.

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>>14312473

I'm not very familiar with Cowan but I like Koeppel's work on bananas.

>> No.14312709

This isn't useful information but I find it funny that OP comes across as earnest and interesting, and it's just some dude on a forum posting about this topic, but this KIND of topic is precisely what you would read at graduate writing workshops at some big ritzy history or anthro department where people are writing shit like
>"Two Scoops Too Many": Culinary Capitalism as a Vector of Change in the Iranian Revolution
predicated on some bullshit flash-in-the-pan thing like this, like "carceral capitalism," and the paper itself would be boring and poorly written

I hate academia

>> No.14312716

>>14312626
Well it worked, marketers, I just bought this and it's audible companion so I can absorb it across both media. This helps my own work greatly.

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I think this book should be mandatory reading for any foodie.

>> No.14312734

>>14312693
Purchased. I'm such a piggy book slut

>> No.14312741

how can one man be this obsessed about food history and coffee houses?
https://mobile.twitter.com/drsacheverell

>> No.14312752

>>14312571
Nice dodge, Bri-man

>> No.14312794

>>14312651
I had no idea one of my students posts here! Last months submission, Choco-hell: Family Disintegration for One Low Price was quite a fun read. Congrats again on your well-earned A.

>> No.14312810

I took a history of food course in grad. Surprisingly not terrible.

>> No.14312814

>>14312794

Really? You gave this guy and A and failed me for my "Condiment Continuum: The history and future of salt" ?

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>>14312814
perhaps if your work had displayed a little more originality, it would've received the same marks!

>> No.14312843

>>14312741
He's living the academic dream. The guy gets sabbaticals. Every spring, women flaunt their bodies in fleshy spectacles across the campuses, sunbathing sorostitutes, co-lotioning ethnic study groups, egg-laden wombs churning ova and spunks in subtle parts per million spoutings that so coil and ensnare the nostrils in especially the less HVAC-served basements of unaffiliated campus book stores, it's nearly as powerful as the heavily perfumed recreation and sports facilities that nearly leave feminine films upon the sensate mucosa, vast rooms enriched by hundreds of bright acidic humidities, inexpensive soaps and shampoos entwining with the gyno-perspirome fluttering flute songs adrift upon enclouding coitamonal convections.

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>>14312814

Yes because you shamelessly plagiarized pic related.