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[Anonymous No.14310371]

What is the Guenonian view on Gnosticism and the divinity/incarnate nature of Christ?

[Anonymous No.14310398]

>>14310371
The answer is: posing for tranny photographs wearing white dresses.

[Anonymous No.14310441]

>>14310371
>What is the Guenonian view on Gnosticism and the divinity/incarnate nature of Christ?
If he doesn't cringe at it then I hope he will forever be forgotten on /lit/

[Anonymous No.14310446]

>>14310398
Dresses are based brainlet

>>14310371
The better question is - what is the Gnostic view on the divinity/incarnate of Christ.

In Gnostic theology, we separate the physical body of "Jesus" (the son of man, son of Mary) from the "Solar Christ" (The Logos, the Son of God.

Now, when Jesus was baptised, the Holy Spirit (Mother of the Logos) came and inhabited Jesus's body, and it then left when he was Crucified.
(See a text called: The Second Discourse of Great Seth for more info on this, along with the Acts of John).

This "Logos" is what we call the Archetypal Man, the perfect man, the Universal man. that anyone can aspire to be, Jesus was one of the greatest manifestations of this. All the Prophets including Muhummad did embody this to some extent as well.

Muslims are very correct in saying that Jesus was just a human and not a God, although some enlightened Sufis are aware of the concept of the universal man and the finding of God within. An (in)famous Sufi Saint, Mansur Hallaj, was killed for saying "I am the truth" because he came to the same realisation that Jesus did, and many other Sufi saints have.
They are also correct in saying "They Killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear so unto them"
Because it was only his physical body that was crucified, the physical world is an illusion "Maya"

DESU, I havent read much of Guenon yet but I am starting. I know Guenon speaks about the concepts of the "Universal man" and I think he does speak about Gnosticism at some point, I believe he was originally part of the Gnostic Church of france.

If any people well read in Guenon can tell me what he said specifically about Gnosticism I would appreciate it

[Anonymous No.14310450]

>>14310446
okay muslim crossdresser

[Anonymous No.14310452]

>>14310450
SEETHING COPE CRINGE OKAY WHITEHEDPOSTER OKAY GUENONPOSTER

[Anonymous No.14310454]

>>14310452
>WHITEHEDPOSTER
guénonposter confirmed

[Anonymous No.14310455]

>>14310454
>guénonposter
whiteheadposter confirmed

[Anonymous No.14310459]

>>14310455
Based. You can tell because he always puts the accent above the 'e'

[Anonymous No.14310461]

>>14310455
>whiteheadposter
lol I don't even know who this guy is/was.

[Anonymous No.14310466]

>>14310398
He is performing an ancient Islamic ritual of summoning catgirls.

[Anonymous No.14310469]

>>14310452
>WHITEHED
you mean "Whitehead (peace be upon him)".

[Anonymous No.14310470]

>>14310459
>the accent above the 'e'
Like in the french name Guénon?

[Anonymous No.14310475]

>>14310466
>ancient
>Islamic
LOL

[Anonymous No.14310479]

>>14310475
Islam has been around since the time of Adam

[Anonymous No.14310483]

>>14310479
>Islam has been around since Muhammad destroyed the Traditional religion of the Arabs and forced them to worship the god of the Jews.
fixed 4 ya

[Anonymous No.14310487]

>>14310475
Are you implying that the religion of Moshe (peace be upon him) is not ancient?

[Anonymous No.14310492]

>>14310483
Wrong. its been around since the time of Adam and was corrupted by Pagans. try again.

[Anonymous No.14310499]

>>14310492
Muslims are Pagans you stupid loser.

[Anonymous No.14310501]

>>14310499
>Muslims destroyed Arabic Paganism
>Muslims are Pagans

[Anonymous No.14310502]

>>14310487
t. murtad posting a haram picture on the haram Internet.

[Anonymous No.14310507]

>>14310502
Neither is Haram. The image would only be Haram if she was naked or was a prophet

[Anonymous No.14310508]

>>14310502
>haram
There is nothing haram about this picture, you braindead s*lafi.

[Anonymous No.14310509]

>>14310501
>Muhammad destroyed the pagan Arabic Tradition and then forced the Arabs to worship the pagan god of the Jews
fixed 4 ya

[Anonymous No.14310512]

>>14310507
>Those haram things I do all the time are not really haram because bla bla bla...
Islam in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.14310513]

>>14310509
>And thats a Good thing

[Anonymous No.14310515]

>>14310508
>s*lafi
Sorry, I don't speak African.
also this:>>14310512

[Anonymous No.14310516]

>>14310512
Wrong. Try again

[Anonymous No.14310520]

>>14310516
What Muslims pretend they do: Obeying the laws of Islam and killing the Infidels
What Muslims actually do: Obeying the Infidels and killing other Muslims

[Anonymous No.14310521]

>>14310509
If subhuman Pagans cant defend themselves against one man, they deserved to have their traditions destroyed.

Same goes for Europe

[Anonymous No.14310525]

>>14310516
ok murtad

[Anonymous No.14310526]

Why yes, I have reverted to Islam and follow Sufism/Taṣawwuf, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14310527]

>>14310520
Wrong, Muslims obey God only. Try again brainlet

[Anonymous No.14310533]

>>14310526
Okay, now THIS is based

[Anonymous No.14310537]

>>14310521
>Muhammad
>man
He was not a man, because he was a slave to a foreign god.

[Anonymous No.14310543]

>>14310537
Thats even worse then. If Pagans wanted to preserve their traditions they should of done away with him the first day he started preaching.

Natural selection win every time

[Anonymous No.14310545]

>>14310527
Muslims pretend they do stuff.
Islam is all about pretending.
Just open your eyes: Muslims obey the Infidels, that's the only rule they follow IRL.

[Anonymous No.14310552]

>>14310545
Wrong, Muslims follow the Quran and Sunnah. Try again.

[Anonymous No.14310555]

>>14310543
>following a slave
>winning
LOL

[Anonymous No.14310557]

>>14310552
>Muslims follow the Quran and Sunnah
They pretend they do, but they don't.
Just open your eyes.
Muslims obey the Infidels.
All the time.
Everywhere.

[Anonymous No.14310561]

>>14310555
>Getting all your traditions destroyed by one slave of God

[Anonymous No.14310563]

>>14310557
Wrong, Muslim follow god only. Try again

[Anonymous No.14310572]

>>14310561
>Destroying the traditions of your own people and forcing them to worship a foreign god, like a pathetic traitor to your own people.
LOL

[Anonymous No.14310577]

LARPagans itt are absolutely seething lmao.

Europe is next btw, enjoy it while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.14310578]

>>14310563
>Muslim follow god only
Where? Who? When?
Everywhere Muslims follow the rules of the Infidels.

[Anonymous No.14310581]

>>14310577
>Europe is next, someday... later
Islam in an nutshell.

[Anonymous No.14310585]

>>14310578
>Where? Who? When?
Just open your eyes and get out of your moms basement brainlet,
all Muslims follow Quran and Sunnah. Try again

[Anonymous No.14310588]

>>14310577
Muslims are mocked and ridiculed everywhere, all the time... in real life.

[Anonymous No.14310591]

>>14310588
Wrong, Muslims are based. We even tricked the Libtard Progressives into supporting us. Try again

[Anonymous No.14310596]

>>14310585
>all Muslims follow Quran and Sunnah.
lol they don't
they just pretend they do
Muslims do haram things all the time
that's what they do
obeying the infidels is what they do
and killing each others, of course
lol

[Anonymous No.14310599]

>>14310596
Wrong. Try again

[Anonymous No.14310602]

>>14310591
You are the laughing stock of the world.
You pretend to kill the Infidels, but you kill each others instead.
Because you are weak losers.

[Anonymous No.14310610]

>>14310599
lol you're so pathetic
so deluded

[Anonymous No.14310620]

>>14310602
>>14310610
Wrong. Both wrong. Keep trying though.
>Trying is Paganism in a nutshell

>>14310446
Very Based

[Anonymous No.14310624]

>>14310620
t. guenon crossdresser fanboy

[Anonymous No.14310650]

>>14310466
>He

[Anonymous No.14310676]

>>14310446
ok guénonposter

[Anonymous No.14311020]

>>14310371
>>14310466
>>14310487
based islamo-catposter

[Anonymous No.14311121]

>>14310526
Any advice for someone looking to revert and find a Sufi order?

[Anonymous No.14311139]

>>14311020
>>14311121
This:>>14310676

[Anonymous No.14311172]

test.

[Anonymous No.14311276]

Allah has spoken.

[Anonymous No.14311288]

>>14311276
>speaking
>killing infidels
Islam in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.14311300]

Why did they only ban one of guènonposters ip's, and not the OP?

[Anonymous No.14311303]

kek they deleted their posts after being btfo, so weak

[Anonymous No.14311310]

yo what is going in this thr-

[Anonymous No.14311315]

>>14311300
>guènonposterS
ok guénonposter

[Anonymous No.14311333]

>>14311310
Seems like Guénonposter wants to kill some Infidels to prove something to the world...

[Anonymous No.14311344]

>>14311333
Why haven't all these threads been taken down?

[Anonymous No.14311353]

>>14311121
Start with pic related.

[Anonymous No.14311388]

>>14311344
They should have been taken down and reported to the french police: this Guénon cult thing should be taken care of more seriously.

[Anonymous No.14311453]

>>14311333
Is he French ? I can be a collabo if he's that dangerous

[Anonymous No.14311512]

>>14311453
He must have already been noticed by the french police, he surely has a "fiche S" there, but those cult-following lunatics are so unpredictable...

[Anonymous No.14311593]

The Traditionalists all had absolutely contemptuous and dismissive ideas about Gnosticism and regarded it as no more than a debased menagerie of formulae and superstitions. It is obvious that Guénon never delved into the profound depths (pardon the Aeonic pun) of Valentinus' cosmology, and the world is worse for it.

[Anonymous No.14311661]

>>14311593
The world is worse for letting Judeo-Christian-Islamic insanity to take root for enabling fools like Guenon to take root, but not all Traditionalists are anti vidya/gnosis though few they are. Ananda K. Coomaraswamy and Algis Uzdavinys are the exception as well as a couple of second generation Traditionalists.

[Anonymous No.14311675]

>>14311661
>Coomaraswamy
His books are pathetic copes about being half Indian half English.

[Anonymous No.14311688]

>>14311661
>Algis Uzdavinys
The thinking man's choice

[Anonymous No.14311705]

>>14311661
>guneon
>anti-vidya

[Anonymous No.14312638]

>>14311593
>profound depths of Valentinus' cosmology
care to share any examples?

[Anonymous No.14312787]

>>14312638
Read Irenaeus' description of Valentinianism and compare it to Advaita Vedanta and Kashmir Shaivism, which Guenon writes off as "disfigured Eastern ideas"--as if the Tradition was unknown in the West until the supreme arbiter Guenon was born to tell us what it was and wasn't.

[Anonymous No.14312845]

>>14312787
Now take this obvious admiration from a dispassionate and learned scholar of early Christian history, and compare it to the curt dismissal that Guenon gives the entire movement; the hallmark of a pretentious pseud who doesn't want to do the required reading.

[Anonymous No.14313877]

>>14310371
The better question is - what is the Gnostic view on the divinity/incarnate of Christ.

In Gnostic theology, we separate the physical body of "Jesus" (the son of man, son of Mary) from the "Solar Christ" (The Logos, the Son of God.

When Jesus was baptised, the Holy Spirit (Mother) came and inhabited Jesus's body, and it then left when he was Crucified.
(See a text called: The Second Discourse of Great Seth for more info on this, along with the Acts of John).

This "Logos" is what is called the Archetypal Man, the perfect man, the Universal man. that anyone can aspire to be, Jesus was one of the greatest manifestations of this. All the other prophets did embody this to some extent as well.

Muslims are very correct in saying that Jesus was just a human and not a God, although some enlightened Sufis are aware of the concept of the universal man and the finding of God within. An (in)famous Sufi Saint, Mansur Hallaj, was killed for saying "I am the truth" because he came to the same realisation that Jesus did, and many other Sufi saints have.
They are also correct in saying "They Killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear so unto them"
Because it was only his physical body that was crucified, the physical world is an illusion "Maya"

I havent read much of Guenon yet but I am starting. I know Guenon speaks about the concepts of the "Universal man" and I think he does speak about Gnosticism at some point, I believe he was originally part of the Gnostic Church of france.
>>14311593
I know, this is my main criticism of Guénon, I wish he focused more on Valentinianism & Neoplatonism

[Anonymous No.14314587]

>>14310371
What Is Christ Consciousness
http://esotericawakening.com/what-is-christ-conciousness