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14302508 No.14302508 [Reply] [Original]

>Claims to be Christian
>Hasn't even read the Gospel of Thomas

>> No.14302663
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>> No.14302681

>>14302663
Wait
That's actually true

>> No.14302696

>>14302681
http://trisagionseraph.tripod.com/Texts/Plotinus5.html

>> No.14302722

>>14302508
Jesus said, "Whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world."
...what?

>> No.14302730

When did this board get inundated with esoteric bullshit? That stuff is pure heresy and actual spiritual poison. It is the perfect exemplar of the "wisdom of men" that Paul bemoans in First Corinthians. The entire Christian ethos is about a fundamental equality between persons (the conditions listed in the Sermon of the Mount for salvation are true of all people, it just depends whether they accept that truth, which is also Jesus). So how can this religious system be at all compatible with a faith that posits a fundamental human equality AND a saviour who can to save ALL. If the version of Christianity you preach in inaccessible to almost everyone but the most over-educated ressentiment-filled pseudo-intellectual burying their head in sophistry to keep out the dark--then your version of Christianity is false. For your sakes, stop.

>We may note that Gnostic eclecticisms have the following features in common. Their religion appeals to the proud rather than the humble in heart, for it claims to sum up the best in other religions and thus castigates adherents of the older faiths. Its appeal is largely to intellectuals and initiates and not to the great under-privileged multitudes of the world. Their philosophy is almost always pantheistic and shares the characteristic weaknesses of that outlook; for example, it despises the body which for the Christian is the temple of the Holy Spirit; it teachers an automatic immortality which makes an end of a moral interpretation of history; it depersonalizes God so that He becomes an 'essence' or 'principle' and ceases to be the Person; consequently it despises history and the world as illusory, and shows an ostrich-like optimism towards sin, and an unwillingness to change the social conditions, which militate against the full development of personality. Salvation is through identification with God by means of meditation, not by the transformation of the will.

>> No.14302731

>>14302722
Recognizing the rational principle which exists above the World

>> No.14302733

>>14302696
Plotinus is known for disastrous writing, explain why you give this link

>> No.14302739

>>14302733
>disastrous writing
Highlight the argument you disagree with. I am very eager to hear a gnostic response

>> No.14302740

>>14302730
There's big possibility that this Gospel can be the Q or related to Q.

>> No.14302742
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>>14302722
Next level goth shit

>> No.14302750

>reading late pseudepigraphal texts that no scholar views as having any connection to the historical jesus aside from what it plagiarizes from the canonical gospels

>> No.14302751

>>14302742

Is this what boys looked like in ancient Greece?

>> No.14302753

>>14302740
Perhaps, but I doubt most people on this board dabbling in esoterism are interested in the gnostic gospels for their place in textual history. They are interested in it for the self-aggrandizing heresy contained with them.

>> No.14302885

>>14302730
>Claims the Gospel of Thomas is spiritual poison
>Follows the teachings of (((Saul)))

>> No.14302901

>>14302663
Unironically based

>> No.14302927

>>14302753
But have you read it tho?

>> No.14303012

>>14302927
Not more than excerpts in secondary literature, but that is enough to prove not only its uninspired nature, but its hatred of the body, which is utterly non-Christian.

>> No.14303035

>>14302750
>pseudepigraphal texts
You mean most of the Bible?