Language of Fascism

[Anonymous No.14277940]

Does anyone have any good resources on the history of how racists twist language to manipulate people? I know Hitler consciously employed medical terms and was able to bring the population to believe that he was "purifying" society by eliminating a "disease," however he was neither the first nor the last person to employ such tactics. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.14278125]

Can't think of any one book in particular. If you just search JSTOR for things like "fascism semantics organism/organic" you will find things. There's a book called Hitler's Ideology which catalogues Hitler's biological metaphors. A very recent essay by Michael Ruse (as in, not sure if it's published yet) talks a bit about whether Darwinian/Spencerian language gave Nazi ideology its scientific framework, and whether this automatically becomes pseudo-science simply because the Nazis operationalized it for ends considered sinister by posterity.

This is a commonplace however, so it should be all over the literature. The problem will really be separating genuinely meaningful scholarly discussions of it from older, simply taken for granted statements of it in the literature (like the old "Hegel's state-over-individual philosophy / Nietzsche's will to power is responsible for the Nazis" memes), as well as more recent but equally shallow (for instance psychoanalysis, or similarly shallow po-mo treatments) analyses. There are undoubtedly good books and articles on this, but there are undoubtedly also hundreds of articles limply declaring that organic metaphors automatically imply someone is a conservative and being a conservative automatically means someone's a fascist.

If you want to dive a little bit deeper, check out Heidegger's Roots by Bambach or Wampole's Rootedness, which uses Blumenberg's idea of absolute metaphors to talk about how different historical thought movements have been essentially reliant on the explanatory model of roots and uprootedness.

[Anonymous No.14278145]

>>14277940
Fuck off tranny

[Anonymous No.14278155]

>>14277940
Fascism, schmacism. Wanna fight about it or what?

[Anonymous No.14278164]

>>14277940
I would kill all of them with no mercy

[Anonymous No.14278169]

>>14277940
People were racist 80 years ago and ‘twisting medical terms to be raycis dog whistles’ is hardly exclusive to fascism.

>>14278145
This, but unironically

[Anonymous No.14278214]

>>14277940
AOC uses the same rhetoric of disease and infection to talk about White Supremacy on Twitter... what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.14278508]

>>14278164
okay boomer

[Anonymous No.14278515]

>all these stupid replies

OP, read Umberto Eco's essay "Ur-Fascism." Eco is trying to figure out just what, precisely, fascism is, and how it is defined. It will probably be useful to you.

[Anonymous No.14278539]

There is no such thing as "racism." It's a term coined by a Jew in the 1930's. What you're referring to is simply evolutionary domination.

[Anonymous No.14278557]

>>14277940
>even Moon Man and his random uncle who works at Auto Zone participated

[Anonymous No.14278579]

>>14277940
>the history of how racists twist language
it's called rhetoric and it isn't just used by racists. the language we use fundamentally changes the way we see the world. this applies on a conscious level of manipulation but also it just sort of happens by accident.

[Anonymous No.14278582]

>>14278515
I like this essay because it comes to the conclusion that fascism is the natural state of life and that without constant repression it will continue to appear.

[Anonymous No.14278624]

>>14278125
Thanks for actually trying to educate people, man

[Anonymous No.14278628]

>>14277940
>always accuse the enemy of doing what you yourself are doing.

[Anonymous No.14278639]

>>14278624
Can I get a kiss too?

[Anonymous No.14278667]

Not precisely about Hitler and racists, OP, but you should read pic related.

[Anonymous No.14278741]

>>14278667
At least the cover looks promising.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.14278825]

>>14277940
Dial 8 tranny

[Anonymous No.14278841]

OP here, I guess I am looking for something in the vein of Chomsky’s Manufacturing consent but with a focus on mechanics of manipulation of language.
>>14278125
Thanks
>>14278515
Not what I am looking for.
>>14278579
It’s not simple rhetoric, I am looking for something mechanical that is specific to fascist manipulation of language

[Anonymous No.14278861]

>>14277940
ironically modern leftists are purely reactive, they no longer dream of revolution, but merely of defending the liberal orthodoxy, the managerial state and corporate social engineering. They fear contamination. Even the identity politics radicals see themselves as helpless therapeutic subjects, no longer any authentic culture to defend, sick people looking for medicine, validation from a benevolent white liberal other. I see fascism as an antihumanist revolutionary project, a rejection of christian liberal slave morality and an unapologetic aspiration towards greatness.

[Anonymous No.14279161]

>>14278841
>It’s not simple rhetoric
Can you explain or justify this? Why do you think fascists somehow have magic whispers that other mass political movements don't have?

[Anonymous No.14279197]

>>14278579
This. Think about all the 'truths' we take for granted because of language we've been taught. We call blacks humans, and look at all the ramifications that has on our society. If we classified them as primitive hominids, which is more accurate, human rights wouldn't apply to them.

[Anonymous No.14279232]

>>14277940
>I know Hitler consciously employed medical terms and was able to bring the population to believe that he was "purifying" society by eliminating a "disease,"
Has it ever dawned on you that he might have genuinely believed all of those repurposed medical terms?

[Anonymous No.14279338]

This-
>>14279232
You seem to be working off the assumption that fascists are somehow separate from other extremist ideologies in that they didn't actually believe what they were saying. It's really condescending and frankly ignorant.

[Anonymous No.14279344]

>>14277940
>OP

[Anonymous No.14279374]

>>14277940
you know that everyone outside of the west is racist right?
and that just 70 years ago everyone on earth was racist?
people have been racist for thousands of years, the idea that racism is bad is incredibly new.
are you telling me that only now are we truly enlightened about the evils of racism and anyone who thinks otherwise is brainwashed or otherwise inferior in some capacity?

[Anonymous No.14279378]

>>14279338
All I'm saying is that the dude quaffed the koolaid on the regular. He was a warped Eugenicist. Of course he's going to use medical terminology in his silver tongued rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.14279384]

>>14279378
I'm agreeing with you retard, learn to read this is a /lit/erature board

[Anonymous No.14279386]

>>14278164
>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST STOP MY CHILDRENS SOCIETY FROM BEING A POZED BROWN TRANNYSCAPE NOOO

[Anonymous No.14279392]

>>14278164
lol yeah right after sucking off your wifes bull you faggot traitor

[Anonymous No.14279393]

>>14279384
I thought the the - after your this was like an interruption.
I'm just a little tired okay ;_;

[Anonymous No.14279396]

>>14277940
Read the Talmudic laws on marriage and procreation. They were pretty formative on all race based politics that followed.

[Anonymous No.14279404]

>>14279393
Stuff your sorries in a sack

[Anonymous No.14279413]

>>14279404
Where'd you get that one?

[Anonymous No.14279430]

>>14279413
Seinfeld, Archer, Pineapple Express

[Anonymous No.14279473]

>>14278579
This
>>14278841
>It’s not simple rhetoric, I am looking for something mechanical that is specific to fascist manipulation of language
I think this is innately a wrong lense of analysis since you are assuming direct causation where there probably isnt one. There may be coralative eliments to be sure, but its probably a better idea to learn about universal, or at least commonly applicable trends. WHen you say "facist" its kind of general while not being universal. Its probably different in japan italy or germany if we talking about the early 1900's sort. even then, its not a monolith of ideology. You kinda have to see the societal progression in rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.14279478]

Everyone manipulates language because it is an effective means of precluding ideas that you don't like from coming into being.

As for fascist organicist language, it stems from their fixation on the pre-political or substrate-level foundations of immanent political regimes, that is, the supposedly biological foundation of states. Per fascist (and especially national socialist) ideology the state and society are natural outgrowths of these biological units (family, race, arguably nation). A common phrase you see around here is that "politics is downstream from culture" and "culture is downstream from biology". With this conception it follows that a healthy politics cannot exist without a healthy body. You see where this is going?

They see the cultivation of healthy bodies as the entire point of politics, because healthy (strong, attuned, ready-to-strike) bodies must, per their determinism, produce everything wondrous and good. In this way for the fascist there is no essential difference between personal acts and political acts if they are oriented towards cultivating the body. Ever consider how the fascist obsession with fitness relates to the fascist obsession with race purity? For the fascist, dysfunction and decay are never of social or political origin. Dysfunction and decay indicate rather that the "type of people that produce dysfunction and decay per their natural inclinations" are here, and must be cut out like a disease.

As you can probably tell I have some sympathy for these views, though they are a bit childish and fantastical. Anyways, hope you enjoyed a view of their (our?) minds

[Anonymous No.14279536]

>>14279473
Japan never had a strong fascist presence, even in a loose sense of the word.

[Anonymous No.14279540]

>>14279378
If you have had any personal experience with the screeching victimhood constituencies leftists are trying to shove down our throats. They are unhappy, and resentful, by their own account their sense of self is based on disease, particularly mental disease, they don't want to achieve great things, they want to be pitied. if let to their own devices they will drag us all down to their level. you see there is nothing ''wrapped'', about eugenics, it is rational and mercyful. Humanity has been deceived against its own nature by 70 years of propaganda. post wwii culture is an anomaly in its denial of the sacrificial order. the swastika is a vedic symbol. You learn nothing in school about literature nothing about heroes, and conquerors and poets, they have been replaced by the allmighty victim, that inspires no respect and only demands to be pitied and demands you feel shame. the tree of life must be pruned so it may bear fruit and flower of human achievement might blossom, the victims must be sacrificed and burnt until not even the ashes remain. the balance of the universe must be restored.

[Anonymous No.14280003]

>>14277940
>every time someone believes something i don't like it's because they were manipulated
i don't understand how you people control the entire school system, media, and means of cultural production and yet have the god-damned GALL to accuse others of "manipulating" and "twisting language"

[Anonymous No.14280023]

>>14277940
What’s that black guy doing there?

[Anonymous No.14280040]

>>14279536
Japanese fascism would present itself identically to Imperial Japan.

[Anonymous No.14280042]

>>14277940
rhetoric is a feature of language’s usual functioning, not a special mode of its deployment or application. the same goes for ideology vis-a-vis experience: the real world comes at us already scrambled as it were. miscommunication is the transcendental condition if communication, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.14280052]

>>14278582
Read now The Republic, and if you already did then this is what he was talking about with the tyrant and why the good man only takes power to prevent the tyrant. It is natural, and there are many other examples of systems being put in place whether directly or indirectly to keep tyranny suppressed.

[Anonymous No.14280054]

>>14280003
“”you”” “”people””

[Anonymous No.14280065]

>>14280052
Fascism is not simple tyranny, it's a targeted and cohesive ideology.

[Anonymous No.14280071]

>>14279536
You sure?

[Anonymous No.14280097]

>>14280065
It also wasn't invented yet when Plato was writing. Think of tyranny in a broad sense, tyrannical. Do not concern yourself with T-Rex, his music was ok but he probably did make a deal with the devil.

[Anonymous No.14280201]

>>14280040
>in my imagination you're wrong

>>14280071
Yes, there's a reason why Mishima failed miserably. Fascism has never been close to ruling Japan, which is what I would consider having a strong presence.

[Anonymous No.14280223]

>>14277940
Ironic you would ask this in the same breath as using 'racist' and 'fascist' two undefined words that only exist to defame and emotionally manipulate.

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.14280538]

>>14277940
>how racists twist language to manipulate people

Orwell predicted that the bad guys would try to "strip language down to the bone" so that it was impossible to talk about anything but what they wanted.

In reality, words develop their own meanings whether your want them to or not. Replace "nigger" with "urban youths", and 5th-graders will start calling each other "urban youths" instead. So what actually happened is that the meanings of words change constantly, and you have to memorize the latest meaning to show your loyalty.

The way racists, in particular, use this is by having double meanings for the same word (if the Indians get killed it's a battle; if the settlers get killed it's a massacre). Then they can maintain their fantasy that it's who you are, not what you do, that matters.

Try it at home! Switch some euphemisms around ("The Battle of Mountain Meadows", "The Bunker Hill Massacre") and see who gets mad!