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Write what's on your mind

>> No.14271495 [DELETED] 
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>>14271486
I want to fuck a high schooler.

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50% of the threads on this fucking board are phoneposting zoomer reddit faggots posting shit like "What is the most intellectual brand of sports drink?" or "Am I a coomer if I like to go outside when it's raining?"

This place is /b/ for pseudointellectuals

>> No.14271501

Why is it so hard to do what I believe is good for me?

>> No.14271507

>>14271486
Why do you need to make this thread every fucking day? It's useless and pointless.

>> No.14271508

I don't actually read.

>> No.14271511

>>14271486
cooming

>> No.14271515

>>14271507
it quarantines miscellaneous shitposts that people would otherwise make threads for

>> No.14271519

Im still reading on anxiety. Sadly, i realize that its not going to help me in anyway and i'm just wasting a time.

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I don't know why, but whenever I listen to certain songs and look at icons of Mary and Jesus, I feel very comforted, but also sad in a way.

>> No.14271522

Cheese from my hot pocket just burned my finger

>> No.14271533
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Bolsheviks ruined not just Russian Empire and took the future away from the Russian people but also has had utterly horrible impact on the whole world and its history

>> No.14271587

>>14271486
tiddies, as usual.

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>>14271495
but that's illegal anon

>> No.14271593

>>14271501
What do you believe is good for you?

>> No.14271596

>>14271593
generally, lots of things. Exercising, studying, reading, praying, not coming to 4chan, not masturbating, etc

>> No.14271607
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I often wonder how much the world as it is now could be completely different if some event did not happen. It is very interesting to see the consequences of any historical events that have caused something more, which has completely changed the situation in the world and its further development.

>> No.14271645

>>14271533
> tyrannical governments practically erased centuries of culture in 20th century, especially in Asia
> their crimes against humanity were so great the cultural impact is rarely mentioned in favor of slaughters
bros.. i'm not orthodox, but blown up ancient churches make me sad in the most religious way

>> No.14271647

>>14271486
I made her cry when I described my ghosts. The ghosts that follow me everywhere I go and everywhere I look and I just want them to go away. They never leave and whenever I see someone I can instantly see everything and it always hurts. She asked me "do you only see the bad? What about the good, there must have been some good that you see?" And I lied and I said yes, there is good there and luckily those ghosts and memories are softened and diluted a little by the good that can challenge them but it was a lie. I lied, because the truth is never easy to handle, and the truth of the matter is just that. She cried and cried and said she was sorry for me and I stood there and I looked at her and i remembered every time she cried and it made me want to die again, and again and once more. These ghosts do not leave, the only way to ignore them is through drugs or alcohol but then I cannot be as productive as I know I can be, and I can be so much more than I am now. It's so fucking easy to just say "who cares?" and ask "why do you care?" as if I am a fool, but I am not, I know I am not. I am not a victim, I am just here.

>> No.14271670

>>14271486
I'm so tired of feeling like I'm climbing out of a bad situation over and over and over again. I'm battling my thoughts every day, I'm battling against hating people and I want my space so badly but I feel stuck coping with feeling invaded every single day. I want so badly for things to be okay, I'm so afraid I won't even get a basically good life and that I'll settle and be coping the way I am now with everything for the rest of my life. I'm so afraid I'll be coping with emptiness and frustration and feeling like things could be better for the rest of my life. I'm just watching my life go by as I try and deal with how angry and nervous I feel all the time and I just want stability. I just want the basic things that people take for granted so I can move on to being happy. I'm so tired of fighting and I'm tired of fighting alone and I'm tired of exhausting everyone with how much I complain but I don't know where to put this and I'm so sad.

>> No.14271760

>>14271670
>people take for granted
like what?

>> No.14271767

>>14271486
no

>> No.14271818

>>14271587
TITS

TIIIIIIITS

I'M GONNA SNEAK INTO YOUR ROOM AND BITE THEM OFF.

>> No.14271882

Women shouldn't be allowed to act differently than they do in their own sexual fantasies

>> No.14271963

>>14271767
:-/

>> No.14272015

>>14271882
what do you mean?

>> No.14272029

unironically kill yourself

>> No.14272302

American, unsure if I even want to try with uni seeing as i'm poor as fuck so I can't get anywhere good and if I do i'll be wage slave for the rest of my life
Also don't want to burden my family by being a NEET
Thinking about selling everything I have and going to the med even though I speak no native languages
Started joyce, lots of fun

>> No.14272311

i hate my low self esteem

>> No.14272326

I'd like to try, but I don't wanna get brutally mogged because it will hurt my feelings

>> No.14272328

I saw that my ex is with someone new and I’ve been thinking about it since. I thought I would’ve moved on completely, but I suppose not.

>> No.14272332

>>14272311
same, i wish i'd have average one

>> No.14272336

>>14272328
this is totally ok. People who totally moved on over someone still having these feelings and it does not mean because they miss them, it's because egocentrism and that's not mean it is bad, it's just normal. You will be ok <3

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>>14271507
>Why does /i/ have a drawing tool?
>Why does /mu/ share SoundCloud links?
>Why can /sci/ embed formulas?

>> No.14272353

>>14271501
You just let your libido to dominate over you. The path of the libido dominandi leads to adiction of the pleasures of the flesh, which at the end will lead to corruption and destruction without any awaeness or moderation

>> No.14272534

I can't fucking sleep because as I'm finally drifting off I dream like I'm walking down a set of wooden stairs like at a pier or something and then the next one is wet and slippery which gives the sensation of falling and snaps me back to being wide awake.

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>>14271486

For Thanksgiving I went to the Berkshires. Among the intermittent Swiss architecture and towering red pines my father and I walked up the gorge and into the sky through the woods. I was grateful to have him out there with me in the cold. Years ago, I walked this trail alone. In that time I was more tired, more weary, and my heart was heavy with hurt from the chasm that formed between us. Things beyond his control forced difficult decisions, medical things, catastrophe unintended, a long time ago. Every parent’s worst nightmare. I was a dumb kid, and I blamed him for everything.

Up teetering boulders we made our way to the base of Bash Bish falls, the tallest cascading waterfall in the state, roaring two hundred feet above us. One can only get so close to it before the mist-given ice buildup becomes too thick, and the ledge over its swirling grey pits becomes dangerous.

I look at my father climbing the slope with me. He was always sinewy and strong, a born athlete with an inherent dynamic power in him. But now at the age of sixty five, an immune disorder and spinal stenosis have weakened him. He climbs with the back-and-fourth jitters of a newborn calf, but so much older than I realized. The slowly but increasingly gaunt state of his body fills me with a subtle feeling of unease. When we get up to the falls he reads the placard there, which tells the story of Bash Bish, an Algonquin legend of a maiden who was forced over the falls as punishment for adultery. Her spirit according to legend, still resides in the flow of the waterfall, enticing others to a beautiful demise. He takes it in, and slowly nods his head.

It’s very cold, and the mist of the waterfall makes it colder so we finish our admiration and make our way back to the car. The drive to Boston is three hours long, and we start talking. We talk about many different things. We talk about school, and about work and what I’ll set out do when I graduate. We talk about women, and loving women and finding meaningful people in your life. We talk about medicine and all that went wrong in the past, and for the first time in my life he breaks down in front of me. Out there on the dark winter highways of Western MA he throws himself off the waterfall so to speak. “I hate myself, there, I said it” and he’s crying. And I’m crying too. “There it is.” He says. And I tell him that I forgive him, that I cannot hate someone who made a mistake with the best of intentions possible. I tell him that I cannot hate someone who I love. And it’s good.

Bash Bish falls is the same as it was when the maiden fell over the stones and died some untold time ago. Her memory rings out with the scream of the waterfall and I think about how this place is identical when I first climbed to her all those years ago. But it does not look the same, because my father stands next to me on those rocks, and I am grateful that he is there beside me.

Happy Thanksgiving /lit/

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>>14272581
Happy Thanksgiving, anon. Lovely story, thanks for sharing.

>> No.14272742

>>14272029
ironically kill yourself

>> No.14272839

>>14272029
Already did.

>> No.14272853
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Did y'all niggas know you can make tea in a normal cheap coffee maker by just putting the tea bag in the coffee pot and letting it heat up because if you put tea in hot water that's what making tea is

Enjoying some lemon ginger tea right now and it reminds me of drinking this one kind of tea I had that I could never find again from when I lived with my parents

I love my mom and she's a good person. I hope everybody in this thread has a nice day or evening

>> No.14273053

What's to be done about the zoomer question? They're shitting up this board more than usual. It's reached new extremes.

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Finding motivation to do stuff to improve your life is hard. Keeping that motivation is even harder. But the rewards must be worth it. I must do it, I must become an Übermensch, my life depends on it. If I fail, I'm doomed.

>> No.14273126

>>14272853
Thanks anon. The next two weeks are the last stretches before I return home from exams. I don't have any plans for the holidays yet, but I hope to spend Christmas and New Year's with my family again. Buying some cured meats and drinks in advance.

>> No.14273268

if someone wanted to jump to my death, how high up would they have to be to guarantee they die?
asking for a friend

>> No.14273274

>>14272015
I mean in an ideal world God would cognitively reduce women to the sluts they fantasize about being

>> No.14273381

>>14272336
Sometimes I feel like I I connected with her in a way I never connected with almost anyone else and never would again. I felt that way then. I feel that way now. Sometimes though I acknowledge that we were simply bonded by a series of chaotic and intense events which will forever be imprinted on my psyche and I wonder if I simply struggle to disassociate her from them. I see that my fate is taking me elsewhere to a place where it could never work between us and I won’t fight that, but I do genuinely miss her and think her of her often. It’s been exactly one year since we’ve spoken.

>> No.14273398

>>14272581
This story resonated with me, anon. Very well done.

>> No.14273437

>>14271486
i want to be a goblin living in an old, abandoned library with no need for food or water and with nobody to disturb me

>> No.14273604

why is there nothing lovable about any of you faggots? I tried, I really did.

>> No.14273615

I need help finding a book. I can't remember the title or author as I read it as a teen. It's about a woman who does metal art work and shows displaying how it done. At the end she teaches some kids how to do this .. they put on show and people die. If anyone can help ... Please!!!!!

>> No.14273646

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>> No.14273656

>>14273646
rough stuff

>> No.14273664
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>>14271533
Had Russia remained imperial it would slide farther and farther into poverty and subjugation to the western powers, been carved up and set ablaze. The power play was a brutal state-socialism, but a strong one that defended itself till the 1990s, and may just rise again.
Fuck the capitalists and fuck the imperialists.

>> No.14273673

>>14273664
Would have slid.
Ah well.

>> No.14273687

Happy holidays!

>> No.14273708

>>14273268
jumping is not the best method, too much attention if you jump off a building high enough to be certain, and it's painful. get pure helium and a breathing mask - your your body can't tell the difference between it and regular air, you'll pass out and suffocate painlessly

>> No.14273732

>>14273664
how is soviet expansion better than imperialism? the forced russification, forced relocation of certain racial groups? duuring the great terror, people were sent to labor camps for having a funny (german) surname.
I get that you westerners seek the justice and the right, but our grass wasn't any greener. USSR was racist and opressive, just not in your regular way.

>> No.14273751

>>14272581
Beautiful photo ruined by the jezebel in the lower right hand corner.

>> No.14273755

Talked to a 9/10 girl last night at party. She was stoned and mentioned something from the Bible so I questioned her about it. I wanted her to somehow convince me of Christianity but it didn't happen. Lately I've want to become Christian so bad but I'm not sure of what it will take. I'm worried I also want to become Christian based of how easy it would make my life. Anyways, it didn't go great with this girl and in the future I should probably hold off on religious talks with girls I want to attract

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14273758

I've been feeling bretty gud lately.

>> No.14273768

>>14273755
Just read the Bible, then decide for yourself. I hear the KJV translation is good.

>> No.14273823

>>14273755
Dig deep and look further into why you want to become a Christian. What do you hope to get out of it? As for talking with women about religion, the most success I've had was in a group setting and involved lots of drugs.

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>>14272725
>>14273398
Thank you frens

>>14273751
I got plenty of just the waterfall. Often I think it’s nice to frame with humans to give a sense of scale.

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>>14273758
based.
I'm glad the snow is already there, but what i hate about winter is short light day. little time to work, waking up in complete darkness, sun setting at 4. pic was taken at 8:10 in the morning

>> No.14273930

Joining the gym tomorrow because i'm getting fat. my social anxiety is already flaring up. also have no food to eat. why is just being alive such a bother.

>> No.14273946

>>14272853
>being this white trash
a moka pot makes better coffee than your drip machine and is $7. i have an electric water kettle for actual fucking tea that was like $15.

>> No.14273955

>>14273053
they're shitting up every board. the whole site is going to shit.
never in my life have i seen 4chan in such a state. it's like i'm actually posting with a bunch of literal 12 year olds. fuck, what can i do. i hate silents, boomers, xoomers, yoomers, and zoomers. can't have a single thread before someone posts something so aggressive and stupid it ruins the entire thread.

>> No.14273971

>>14273381
have you try meeting new people? not trying to be rude, but sometimes we just wonder in our little heads thoughts over the same thoughts and we don't let create new ones.

>> No.14273975

>>14273732
Not defending Leninism or Stalin. Bakunin was plainly right. But the alternative scenario would have been far worse. You see what the US does to South America. The same fate if not worse would have happened to Russia and the surrounding former Soviets

>> No.14273980

>>14271486
>tfw you get to work on fun writing assignments while it dumps 2 feet of snow outside
Goddamn I am comfy fuck

>> No.14274018

Why does 4chan hate women so much when men are far more likely to cheat, racemix, commit murder, and be child molesters?

>> No.14274038

>>14273980
holy fuck, based. here it's been snowing every night, then it all melt during the day. last winter there was comfy snow in october, it's not fair

>> No.14274203

>>14271486
I am going to make a big incoherent blogpost and none of you can stop me

on a whim last week, i decided to try smoking. When I got off work that night I walked over to the 7/11 and asked the old lady there for 'a pack of camel silvers', which i had to google to make sure they actually existed. The old lady was confused for a second, so I had to repeat it for her, she opened up the locked drawer where they kept them and looked for them, but evidently they didn't have them, or maybe they don't sell them here. I asked instead for a pack of camel blues. It ran me about 13$.

That night, driving in the dark to the climbing gym, I pulled over by the train tracks to try them, it was a cold windy night, and my bic seems to be a bit of a lemon so it took awhile to get it lit, but once I got a flame it was easy enough to light. I held the cigarette between two fingers and sucks a small amount of smoke into my mouth. I always heard people saying they coughed a lot when they smoked at first, but I found it went down incredibly smooth, I let the smoke cool down in my mouth for a moment before inhaling it into my lungs. I quite enjoyed the process of smoking, it felt almost natural after the first puff. The effects hit me maybe 10-15 seconds later, I felt dizzy at first and had to sit down, I smoked some more sitting by the tracks, the cigarette burned suprisingly quickly.

The nicotine was quite pleasant, made me feel calm and relaxed, it really quite enjoyed it. I'm going to have to limit my smoking to once ortwice a month because I value my health a lot. I think I will mainly smoke when i'm up in the mountains and hitchhiking.

This summer I went on a four and a half long hike from Mexico to Canada. On the roughest section of that hike in the Sierra Nevada, I hiked in a group with some very interesting people. One of them was a man about 55 years of age I reckon, he was an successful author of childrens books. I remember every night, after a day of trudging through the snow, we would make a fire and sit around it cooking, eating, and drying our socks. He would always come to the fire last, after setting up his tent, and spending some time by himself. When he came, he would bring a litre of gatorade he made from powder and he would smoke a cigarette, if someone was passing around a joint he would smoke it too.

I really respect that man, and I hope I can be like him when I am his age. I remember when I first met him, he as staring out a frozen lake just below Mount Whitney, I stood there next to him, looking out at the lake, and he talked to me about the Mountains there, he had spent some significant time hiking in the backcountry. He was always so calm and seemed at peace with everything, and he kept to himself a lot, often opting to rent a hotel room by himself rather than share a hostel dorm with the rest of our group when in town. I really do respect him.


I'm not sure why I went off on a tangent about that

>> No.14274233

>>14274203
(part two)
I keep thinking back to my time in the Sierras this summer, it was the highlight of my entire life, I don't know if i'm ever going to be able to bottle that magic up again. Since coming back home, I have been missing that simplicity and direction of life. Day in, day out, for 130 days, it was so simple. I would rise with the sun, quickly break camp and eat a quick handful of nuts, candy or a granola bar, and start walking. Somewhere 15 to 35 miles to the north some 10, 12, 14 hour later, I would stop at a likely campsite and setup for the night. I would cook some ramen, maybe speak to fellow hikers at the camp if they were there, then go to bed, and do the same thing the next day.

Everything had such purpose, every day was progress towards a single, seemingly unattainable, infinitely far off goal. Yet, somehow, I still found myself waking up on that final day, walking across that border, and within a couple hours, standing at my front door.


I'm glad I finished, and I know that without an endgoal, and ithaca, the journey would lose meaning, but at the same time, I wish it could've gone on forever. If my life had begun at 5 on that beauytiful spring day in San Diego and ended that afternoon in Manning Park, I think it would've been complete.

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>>14274233
someone posted this poem on an outhouse door I saw just over a week in, it has really struck a chord with me, and maybe has been the poem that has influenced me more than any other. Normally i'm not a big poetry guy, but this poem has so much meaning for me, I've found no other poem has even come close for me

>> No.14274257

>>14274233
can you explain a bit more about the trip? what was the feeling like, and what did you see? how has your perception changed?

>> No.14274259

>>14273955
To be entirely fair 4chan's primary userbase has always been teenage boys. It says more about us than it does them that we're here.

>> No.14274264

>>14274203
Babby's first ciggie. Adorable.

>> No.14274267

>>14274203
>>14274233
Based fellow /out/fag. You are excellent at describing your headspace and emphasize the tiny things much like Hemingway in Big Two Hearted River. I thoroughly enjoyed this, thank you.

>> No.14274268

I dont know where the light went. Its always dark. Things I dont want to do needs to be done. Endoring everything is now life and if you fight against it you are a loser who just dont want to take responsibility. I could thing of thousand ways how my way of life could be. But It wont change a thing I need to run at one direction.

>> No.14274315

>>14274257
it was a Northbound thru hike of the Pacific Crest Trail that spans the West Coast from Mexico. A couple thousand people attempt to hike the entire thing every year. The trail is beautiful and the people who hike it with you are amazing as well. It is so easy to strike up a conversation on trail, because you all share a massive thing in common, the trail.

I wanted to hike the trail for two reasons, the first, was because I enjoyed hiking, and this was months on end of nothing but that, and the second was because I wanted to challenge myself, I wanted to do something hard, I wanted not only the experience of hiking it, but I wanted to be able to say I finished it.

Over 136 days I saw the American West Coast slowly transition from high desert, to desolate alpine tundra, to the rainforests of Washington, finally to the pine and fir forest I first started hiking in in Manning park Canada.

Painted in broad strokes, the trail seems majestic and beautiful, but truly, the predominant feeling of hiking the trail is tedium. Most days are full of tedium, slowly plodding at 3 miles an hour through endless forest, but these long stretches of tedium make the beauty so much more enjoyable.

I don't think the trail changed me, rather, I think it helped me discover who I really am, what I really want to do, and what I need to do to make myself happy. I don't think I changed much, rather, I am truer to myself now.

Honestly I could ramble on incoherantly about the trail forever. I'm going to cut myself short here

>> No.14274640

>>14273946
>Better coffee
>Actual tea
I bet you still use tap water. You can paint shit gold, but it's still shit.

>> No.14274662

>>14274243
>Guess I'll do it

As you set out for Ithaka
hope your road is a long one,
full of adventure, full of discovery.
Laistrygonians, Cyclops,
angry Poseidon—don’t be afraid of them:
you’ll never find things like that on your way
as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
as long as a rare excitement
stirs your spirit and your body.
Laistrygonians, Cyclops,
wild Poseidon—you won’t encounter them
unless you bring them along inside your soul,
unless your soul sets them up in front of you.

Hope your road is a long one.
May there be many summer mornings when,
with what pleasure, what joy,
you enter harbors you’re seeing for the first time;
may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
to buy fine things,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
sensual perfume of every kind—
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
and may you visit many Egyptian cities
to learn and go on learning from their scholars.

Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you’re destined for.
But don’t hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you’re old by the time you reach the island,
wealthy with all you’ve gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey.
Without her you wouldn't have set out.
She has nothing left to give you now.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you.
Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
you’ll have understood by then what these Ithakas mean.

>> No.14274663

>>14271495
I see them all the time especially on public transport. I would never approach them but I always find it interesting how some are more shy/don't really put a huge amount of effort into their appearance while others are full blown short skirts, trying to expose as much cleavage as possible etc. I want to protect the pure ones.

>> No.14274666

>>14271496
>"Am I a coomer if I like to go outside when it's raining?"
am I?

>> No.14274671

Imagine being a dentist and knowing that 50% of the people you're cleaning the teeth of have had their mouths used as a cum receptacle. Imagine cleaning the teeth of younger patients and knowing that one day, one session, they will have crossed over into that group and there's nothing you can do or could have done about it.

>> No.14274696

Sometimes I wonder if I really comprehend things correctly

>> No.14274703

i come and come and come but i have nowhere to go

>> No.14274704

>>14271486
I'm just.. sad.

>> No.14274730

>>14274671
> 50% of the people you're cleaning the teeth of have had their mouths used as a cum receptacle.
Are you one of them?

>> No.14274755

>>14274730
No, I meant most women.

>> No.14274857

What separates mediocre poet from grands like Blake or Poe?

>> No.14274861

>>14273664
That is not true at all though. In addition, you are completely biased so it doesn't seem productive to contribute some information to you.

>> No.14274936
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What sort of person does it make me if this image fills me with such an overwhelming sense of sadness? Obviously the intention of posting an image like this is for humour, since it's such a ridiculous person. It just makes me sad though. Real genuine sadness, like I want to look after this guy, like a child with special needs, or something like that anyway. I don't know. The look on the man's face mixed with the tragic, wonky pepe on the cake has a lot of sadness in it, for me. He looks genuinely happy, which makes me sad too. Why is this? Am I a bad person for seeing this person happy and immediately feeling the deepest sorrow? There's definitely this sort of deep, deep sadness to me about the genuine happiness at what is basically a very sad thing. I don't know. I get a similar feeling around Christmas time, at shops when they start bringing out their Christmas decorations and fucking novelty plastic pieces of shit that they sell in those cardboard cutout boxes or whatever they are. It makes me sad to think about how most of this shit is just going to get thrown out after the season is over, and all the tips in the country will be full of this stupid shit that never should have existed. I really can't honestly bring myself to ridicule people like the man in the photo, it's just too sad.

>> No.14274939
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14274939

I JUST DON'T ENJOY READING FICTION AND IDK WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
you can give me the most autistic 600p+ academic work on history or philosophy and i'll devour it in like a few days
meanwhile it's my 2nd month trying to finish this fiction book that's 160p
i really just think fiction isn't for me

>> No.14275000

>>14273971
Yeah, but nothing really stands out besides a brief encounter with a girl I know quite well, but I know that would never work. I think she’s with someone else now as well. Honestly, I’ve kind of put aside dating entirely because it doesn’t jive with my lifestyle or personality too well in the first place and most of what’s out there just doesn’t seem to interest me or be too worthwhile.

>> No.14275284

>>14274671
the more you hate sexual freedom, the more you sexualize literally any normal aspect of life. puritans are enraged by things only they see as sexual, while normal people don't even have a thought of it.
in muslim countries they dress girls in trashbag-like clothes since very young age to avoid "lustful looks of men", for the same reason married women must stay at home. for euros and even other muslims (like tatars in russia) it's a non-issue simply because no one percieves middle schoolers or casual strangers sexually - ones who do are ultimately bashed and disrespected for it. it's not a common norm.

>> No.14275298

>>14274936
you'll burn out from that flaming, overwhelming empathy, but you're a good man, I see no paternalistic tone or snobness in your words, only genuine bleeding-heart concern, Christlike.
please stay the same, find someone who'd share your all-covering love

>> No.14275300

>>14274939
are you me? holy basedness

>> No.14275323

>>14274939
>>14275300
how old are you, brothers? I'm 18 and 95% of what I read is fiction, because for practical knowledge I prefer articles and shorter, condensed texts. most non-fiction books just feel like a puddle of water, main idea thinly diluted in it.
with good fiction (why is it called so in English? sounds a bit not derogatory, but unserious, like the main aspect is its made-upness. in Russian it's "artistic/art literature", empathizing it's a serious work of art) words rarely seem unnecessary, but on a fixed subject there's only so much you can say.

>> No.14275351

I had a dream last night wherein I was talking to a guy I was in the Marines with (haven’t seen or spoke to him in over 3 years, at least) where we just talking and I asked him if he missed the military. I told him I did too, and woke up.

I felt really sad and nostalgic for the loss of my Marine friends; I’ve only kept in touch with a few of them. The guy in my dream wasn’t a close friend even, but we had so many mutual friends and memories that I couldn’t help but mourn. Then I thought of my good friend A——-, who I haven’t heard from in a while, who was going through a divorce, and about whom I’m worried. I tried calling him a few days ago, but I got some weird carrier message about his number not being able to receive calls.

Be good to your friends, bro. Don’t let them slip away through neglect, or distance, or whatever.

>> No.14275359

>>14275351
>I tried calling him a few days ago, but I got some weird carrier message about his number not being able to receive calls.
I hope he's not an hero.

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>>14275351
i'm not a militarist, not fascinated with wars, but i'll be damned if there isn't a specially profound sorrow in miliary friendships lost, a dirty romantism in pointless death and broken lives

>> No.14275380

>>14275359
Me too. I don’t think he would be the type, but you never know. I texted some other guy that knows him to check on him.

>> No.14275384

>>14274861
>you are completely biased
Look who’s talking.

>> No.14275467

What books for a narcissistic asshole in his 60s whos constantly hooked on 'news', youtube and social media?

>> No.14275476

>>14274671
This post made my day

>> No.14275497

>>14274671
So what
I bet people find each others food more disgusting than cum or just their face and the way they talk. I bet some of them have used their face as a shit receptacle too and eaten stuff far worse than that or what appears to you far worse than that.
A dentist is basically a janitor of the mouth it's not within his rights to exercise this sort of discernment.

>> No.14275524

>>14275497
medics are very desentesized about human body. it's disgusting, but they don't pay attention, else it'd be impossible to work. only sex-obsessed people or hardcore puritants see sex everywhere

>> No.14275531

>>14275524
why americans are extremely puritan and promiscuous at the same time?

>> No.14275560

Lately my lust has bested me. At my work, which employs underage youth and adult alike, I receive almost all the female attention. It is partly because I am very cute and ripped but also because I am the only decent looking guy in the place. Taking care of myself has elevated me above others so much that it isn't fair. All the women flirt with me or enjoy talking with me even if they have boyfriends or not. I can simply sit and some girl will try and talk to me. The most pretty girl of age, Sarah, persists on. I have casually let her know of my gf but she has nonetheless kept pursuing in a friendly manner. She escalated her touching as a buddy would do. I don't even go near her yet she plays her game. Some weeks she always tries to see me and others she avoids me to make me feel like she isn't interested. It is all a song and dance she thinks we are playing while I simply sit observing her. Yet, when she hugged a former co-worker who visited yesterday, I felt slight rage due to my losing of her. Deep down I still care slightly. The same attitude I hated women for has become part of me. I need my orbiters. Otherwise, I have been admiring the beautiful underage girls at my work. Some black-haired girl whose face I have yet to see has a great ass. The shape is so aesthetically pleasing that I go wild and have to catch a look when she passes by. I would guess she is 16 and that would be legal in my country, although I don't know. I have never seen her face up close. Perhaps she is ugly and it would ruin the siren call. For now I let it wash over me and imagine pumping her sweet tight ass full of my seed.

>> No.14275561

It just hit me that I can jack off today, and I got super excited. Been almost 10 days or something.

>> No.14275657

I've grown old enough to realize that the emptiness that consumes me is death. I want to see what's on the other side, that's what this feeling has been forever, because I already am dead.
I figured out that time isn't real, it is but since it's relative that means we have already experienced it all. This existence has played out and it will forever.
With the laws of our universe things are here and not at the same time.
1 and 0 aren't separate, they are actually the same.
We simultaneously are alive and dead at the same time, because "nothing" doesn't exist in our realm, if something has been then it will always be in the memory of this universe.
Unfortunately this is true but since I know and understand this it seems life is much more fleeting than it was in the past.
I hope death finally takes me because reincarnation is hell, I don't want to live this life again, I want to be at peace in the void.

>> No.14275867

>>14275323
I'm >>14274939
and I'm 27. I did read a little more fiction when I was around your age, especially Russian/Japanese lit and some fantasy series. But even back then the large part of what I read was nonfiction. I literally pirate TTC courses and watch them for fun, that's who I am. But don't get me wrong, I'm not a STEMfag. I absolutely hate anything to do with science, I only enjoy humanities.

>> No.14275883

>>14275531
i honestly have no idea, but you're right about them. not american, but i notice it all the time. there's a very strong stigma on nudity, for example, and for some reason they're extremely obsessed with age (like God himself said you can only fuck after 18, hit on a 16-17 year old while being 18-19 and you're a pedo, also there were several cases of underages prosecuted for cp for posessing their own pictures) and they say "minor" like it means "child". though i do see that many americans are childish and grow up later than euros, but it seems to be the outcome, not the cause

>> No.14275894
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WHY HAVEN'T MY BOOKS SHIPPED YET!?

>> No.14275896

>>14275867
then it's probably your nature. very based, keep reading what you like, maybe you'll develop an interest in fiction later, maybe not, doesn't matter if there are books that bring you joy

>> No.14275899

>>14275894
> buying books online
do you live in some remote town or did you buy something rare? genuine interest, i only rarely buy online if my family or frens are getting something, mostly because I decide what I want right at the bookstore

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>>14271486
People are taking too long to bite all the baits i dropped on every single post of the main page. I'm getting bored.

>> No.14275917

>>14273755
Nothing wrong with asking questions about people’s faith if they take it seriously, but a party probably isn’t the right place to do it. A lot of girls do this in general though. They’ll mention something like the Bible and expect you to say “Oh, you’re a Christian?!” , but not dig any deeper because it’s mostly an image thing or relatively shallow moralistic sympathizing.

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>>14275899
They aren't rare, just niche or out of print. Mostly the works of Puritan preachers. There is only one publisher, Banner of Truth, doing complete works sets of these guys. Other books like Sermons of Thomas Watson have been out of print since 1990 but I managed to get a copy online last week.

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>>14275896
Thanks, anon, godspeed to you as well.
>>14275899
Many of us buy books in other languages than our native one, and some books are hard to find in general. Just to give you an example off the top of my head, I've wanted this book about Oda Nobunaga called Japonius Tyrannus for years, and not only can you not find it IRL, but it costs $100+ to buy online, and that's not covering the price of having it shipped all the way to Europe. And there's no e-version to get, at least none that I've ever found and I've not only searched most websites but gone on autistic history forums too.
Long story short, no, you can't find books in your town even if you are actually in a large city.

>> No.14276029

>>14275977
based niche interest. is it your personal hobby or for some academic research?
I'd hunt for soviet samizdat (illegal publishers), sadly most copies didn't survive as those books were legal to print later in post-soviet times, so many ended up thrown away or forgotten

>> No.14276057

>>14276016
i understand. if i want to read in English, i go straight to libgen, because even my favorite bookinist booths mostly have some irrelevant pulp fiction or extremely popular high school reading tier books. and i'm too much of a jew to be jewed by regular bookstores, which also have a shit selection of foreign language works, but for thrice the price

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>>14276029
Hobby. I'm not a seminary student or anything. I just find that the Puritan writings are much more devotional than any other Christian literature. A lot of people hear "puritan" and think they were just fanatics that hated fun but really they were very intelligent people that loved God.

I'm reading Farewell Sermons now. Its a collection of sermons preached on August 17th 1662 when 2000 Puritan ministers were forced out of the Church of England for refusing to comply with the new Book of Common Prayer.

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>>14271486
Now that I have a woman in my life who genuinely cares about and supports me, I find that taking care of myself and being productive is so much easier. I’ve also been reading a lot more, and I’m not sure that I like this aspect about myself, or what this says about me. Things are easier when you’re part of a team I guess. Is there anything wrong with that?

>> No.14276836

>>14276820
Putting your happiness into other people hands.

>> No.14276862

My dick has been unable to rest since this Saturday, where I perused book stores together with the girl I'm interested in. Our conversations there and afterwards have confirmed that she's interested in me as well, and now that I've found out that she's 4 years older than me, I literally cannot wait until I fuck her brains out.

>> No.14276869

>>14276836
Exactly. I’m fine on my own and I think that any man should be that way before getting into a relationship. The last thing I want is to be codependent with somebody. I don’t know, there just seems to be less resistance in the day to day. It’s nice.

>>14276862
Exactly my point.

>> No.14276900

>>14271496
As it always has been. Occasionally you may find some thing of quality, but it is rare.

>> No.14276988

I have don quixote on my desk but i feel little to no any desire to pick it and read

>> No.14277008

>>14276988
You ought to go slay some sheep first.

>> No.14277065

>>14271486
These threads are reddit. This board is memes.

>> No.14277078

>>14277065
These threads are literally 4chan, and your way of thinking is the meme here.

>> No.14277154

>>14271596
Well are you trying not being such a nigger faggot? I fuck up a lot, but I still get up and try again. What's the alternative? Stay idle? Take a walk , clear your head and come back and type how you feel

>> No.14277384

>>14276164
again, based beyond belief. i think it's not the puritan preachers, but their followers that acted like fanatics without profound knowledge the preachers had.
there were truly insane clergy, but most of them were historically smart and genuine men, well-read and educated enough to manage somewhat extreme opinions

>> No.14277412

>>14271486
I want to write, but I constantly worry about all sorts of bullshit. How will this be interpreted, what's the message, political analogies. Nonsense. Utter nonsense, but I can't make it go away. It would be stupid and pointless if I intended to do serious writing but I don't, my aim is little higher than moderately interesting fanfiction. I wish I could just shake it all off and write interesting stories regardless of anything else.

>> No.14277446

>>14271607
I'm picturing you picturing the world as a vast Rube Goldberg machine.

>>14277065
mmyup. Probably would help if I read a book, but I don't.

>>14277078
You can very clearly hear reddit on 4chan these days. I'm conflicted about this development. In some ways reddit acts as a waxy barrier - a condom of sorts - between certain forces, which is good. The downside is 4chan is beginning to lose its distinct voice: it's unrelenting, unforgiving cynicism.

>> No.14277515

I'm tired. It hurts. What is on my mind, I don't know. It's hard to think. I'm there in the moment, but then I'm not. I'm there, am not. When I'm aware of it, I can feel how my consciousness keeps constantly slipping, focus fading away, memory failing. When I'm not aware of it, then life just floats by, like a movie that plays in the background. What's the better choice, to desperately cling to awareness, to sensations, but yet constantly feel the struggle, or just let it all fade by, the existential dread of awareness and life not haunting so.

I'm tired.

>> No.14277562

>>14277008
the way you phrase it is so comfy

>> No.14277606

>>14277008
i dont get it.

>> No.14277936

the irishman is not a good movie
it's definitely overhyped

>> No.14278141

>>14273755
Christian here,let me tell you it ain't gonna be easy

>> No.14278186

>>14278141
It may simplify your life in some regards but if it's easy you're doing it wrong.

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>tfw you type in the single greatest font of all time, Andalus

>> No.14278220

the erroneous, but pleasant idea of realizing oneself. everyone realizes oneself, some feel good about it: these are the heroes of the greeks, some feel bad about it: these are me and you.
impossible geometry, an ever falling, ever rising current of water, no differences in altitude. a little boat floating up and down: alcohol and nicotine, regret.
you always subordinate yourself, to others for example, you feel your rank, how it is low, it is in the air (scent based transmission?). or you subordinate yourself to yourself: following your dream. your dream is supposed to make the ordinary, having to do something, special, wanting to do something.

>> No.14278226

hello everybody. hanging in there, i hope. 3 weeks until Christmas vacation, we're all gonna make it.

>> No.14278314

>>14278226
Thank you anon, we got this. What types of things are you working on?

>> No.14278416

>not 14 anymore
>not 15 anymore
>not 16 anymore
>not 17 anymore
>not 18 anymore
>not 19 anymore

>> No.14278449

The Greek myths and spirits have been chasing me these days as a consequence of my resistance towards their works. And thus I have finally made the decision of reading Plato.

>> No.14278460

>>14278416
>even if you were you wasted those years anyway

>> No.14278558

>>14271486
Does she love me?

>> No.14278596

>>14278314
all i do is work, really. i have a good job in business. i'm trying to find hobbies outside of reading and gaming. any recommendations? i've considered getting a project car to fix up.

>> No.14278758

(Natural) Science is actually pretty based when you view it as an active investigation into nature rather than a set of facts to memorize and possibly extend slightly. I spent some time today cutting open various seeds I had collected and looking at their internal structure; I already knew what the inside of a seed was like but actually doing the steps to find out made it completely different. I have newfound appreciation for seeds and a sense of wonder that no amount of textbook study would have got me. I think this is what separates the soulful old natural philosophers from the modern, soulless /sci/ type. Those guys studied the world and saw God, or at least some grand beauty in it all, because they were actually *seeing* it, not just reading about it or replicating occasional results in heavily controlled labs.

>> No.14278916
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>>14278758
Last year I found a dead musk turtle in my back yard, and decided I wanted to try and re-articulate it's skeleton. I went online and did some research on how to get it clean. I left it buried in a Tupperware box with small holes punched in it, so that insects could come in and eat away the flesh, and larger animals could not take the bones. This took several weeks. Next, I researched further cleaning and found a special alcohol and peroxide mixture, sealing the bones submerged in the solution out in the sun for one week, to rend apart any remaining flesh and to sterilize the bones.

In much the same way as you described, I found the process of reassembling the turtle to be painstaking, but unbelievably mesmerizing. You don't really appreciate the way bones grow, form, and develop together from a fertilized egg until you see how these seemingly impossible shapes lock into one another, in a way that artificial and additive manufacturing could never achieve. In this way, the skull with all it's subtle plates and flakes were especially brilliant. Alone they are weak and paper-like, but their ability to travel and overlap into one great shape brought them strength. The shell of the turtle too for example, fused at special points along the edge of each schute, requires slight sanding to lock back into place where the joints fuse, because they were meant to grow and die together, not to be some LEGO kit for another animal like me. It's incredible, the triangular support mechanisms, how the back pair of ribs flare out into each segment of the shell, and the front pair becomes the plastron underneath, which forms a satellite of stable protection for the belly. The spine itself reminds me of the keystone of a classic Roman arch, in how it works via negative pressure to unite and stabilizes all things radiating from it.

Nature is incredible. IKKn all of it's self-sustaining violence, it's chaos, probability, and mess, truly beautiful things emerge.

>> No.14278925

>>14278558
yes

>> No.14278951

>>14278758
>>14278916
You guys should really read history of science lit. It's a huge field. You'd love the late 18th and early 19th centuries when morphology was huge, and people were just discovering everything from geology to animal morphology. Every individual guy was like a titan who would go out and spend his entire lifetime painstakingly reconstructing the history of species, landscapes, and the world as a whole. You might be interested to read about the history of natural history in this period, like Lyell's geology, uniformitarianism vs. catastrophism, the controversies over the age of the world, animal morphology and (pre-Darwinian) evolutionism, and how all these things coalesced and completely captivated some of the smartest most industrious people ever.

Not just those guys either but Schellingians like Oken and Carus. I bet you would enjoy reading Goethe's scientific works too. He was interested in morphology and he was some kind of "super-visualizer." He writes to Schiller that he was able to lie on his bed and picture form of a plant in his mind's eye, and without any effort at all to visualize it, it would "stay" there in his imagination, while he gently played with it and tried to understand what its really fundamental features were. Ultimately he developed a full-blown esoteric theory of archetypes, appropriating Kant's critique of judgment but turning it into a sort of neoplatonic symbol-mysticism of the ideal forms underlying nature, rather than Kant's merely regulative and aesthetic judgments of reason.

>> No.14278991

>>14272581
My father is shell of his former self. Bipolar disorder with schizoid elements and the medication used to treat it all these years have destroyed his mind. It's impossible to have a conversation with him without feeling like you're talking to a very slow child. Reading shit like this hurts. I hope you continue to have a happy relationship with your Dad.

>> No.14279005

>>14278596
Outside of reading and running/ going to the gym I picked up a few small things that I enjoy in my off-time. Joining a rock climbing gym I’ve met tons of nice people and made a few really good friends. In between busy says I like to sculpt with clay and mixed media (metal, fibers, paper mostly). I’m interested in building abstract forms of human beings who represent ideas and emotions. That and I play the Kalimba, which is a small African thumb piano. Just explore a bit and move towards what draws you in anon. It doesn’t have to be something massive.

>> No.14279535

I feel more and more that my family members are a bunch of cold fish. No one ever talks or asks about anyone else in a serious way. There is always some reserve and ironic distance. Maybe it's like this in every family. I don't know since this is the only family I know. None of them has ever asked what's wrong with me. They've never asked why I don't have a girlfriend, or why I don't have a social life, or why my friends have fallen away. I've always felt like the odd man out. My parents love my brother. Any time he visits home the extent to which they prefer him becomes apparent. Even growing up they'd joke that I was adopted. I feel like I never had a chance.

>> No.14279547

>>14279005

living life in 5/4 time...

>> No.14279585
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>>14271486
I think I'm going through the middle stages of a certain phase of my life. I'm in my early 20s, tho I already feel so old. I'm constantly becoming nostalgic for periods of my youth like I'm some old man reminiscing about the past from my old age but I'm not. I'm only just starting to get rolling with my life. I constantly feel so distanced from my life. I feel like every important event I did is years past me.
It's pretty gay honestly. I feel like a shell. Though I think I'm getting through it. All I want to do nowadays is play my music (I'm a drummer / bassist), read, work, and love someone. I really have lost all interest in much else.

The only good thing is I find myself super appreciative of small insignificant moments. It snowed today and I was loving it. I'd stop at work and just stare at the snow falling down for minutes. Taking deep breaths and feeling the moment. My Dad cooked a delicious meal the other day and I paused on every bite. I have no fucking clue what the fuck is wrong with me but it has been like this for almost this entire year and it's reaching an apex. I hope this phase passes.

>> No.14279601

>>14272302
This is the dilemma for the majority of people. I didn't go to college, though a good amount of my friends did. When I visit them to party I find that most kids in college don't know what they're doing / are half-assing it at best. The way I look at it is that if I'm going to be confused and unsure of what I want to do I might as well prevent myself from accumulating debt while I do so.
My advice. Get a good job, build on your passions (if you have any). If any of them can produce money they go with that on the side. Hold off on getting into debt unless it's absolutely necessary.

If you go to uni. Don't be a fool. Get your shit done, then have fun. Too many of my peers made the mistake of half-assing it.

>> No.14279685

I hate how the left killed itself with the Bolsheviks and their jewish influence. /pol/fags like to claim that Marx was a jew, but he actually called out the jews for being the capitalist race.

These days leftism is just a way to describe people who want open borders, affirmative action and political correctness. The economic goals have been pushed to the bottom of the agenda.

We need a new leftist movement that goes back to the roots.

>> No.14279851

>>14279685
>their jewish influence. /pol/fags like to claim that Marx was a jew, but he actually called out the jews for being the capitalist race.
The jewish issue is retarded. It's on the same level as anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers. It's only relevant to /pol/ 4channers.

>These days leftism is just a way to describe people who want open borders, affirmative action and political correctness. The economic goals have been pushed to the bottom of the agenda.
True. But that's only mainstream leftism. That's only populism. There are sectors within the left that are still sober regarding the real issues, goals and tactics.

>We need a new leftist movement that goes back to the roots
No. That's what every leftist movement has claimed to be: "WE are the REAL left". We need a unifying movement that manages to unite the local fragmented left. Each country should have its own leftist literature and research pertaining to their own [historical, social, economic and cultural] context. That's what every successful leftist movement has done in history. Mao created his own doctrine pertaining to his own country's context and history, so did Vietnam, North Korea, the USSR, etc.
We don't need some larpers claiming to be the REAL left because they follow Marx as some kind of prophet. We need a reformulation of the left that's pertinent to the local issues.

>> No.14279869

I wish that my consciousness was forked into every porn picture I masturbate to as the character I fantasize about being.

>> No.14279897

>>14279851
Problem with that is that most leftists these days are people i would consider undesirable in a united leftist movement, and these people would be the absolute majority. So even it we wanted to unite it will result in only more trouble along the way. I watched videos of the socialist convention from a few months ago, and it was just sad.

When someting is broken, you build something new. We shouldn't try to fix it with bandaids and instead use the materials to build something greater.

>> No.14279928

>>14279897
>people i would consider undesirable in a united leftist movement, and these people would be the absolute majority
After establishing the left I speak of, those kind of people would be reformed or expelled and put into the same level of capitalist. Just see how China treats CPC dissidents.

>socialist convention from a few months
I don't know what that is. If it's something from the US I couldn't care less. The whole US politics scene is a joke, there's no room for anything we are discussing here. But that just proves my point of a local unifying reformulation of the left. They need to fix their own problems by creating new literature and research, not by "going back to the roots", as you stated earlier.

>When someting is broken, you build something new. We shouldn't try to fix it with bandaids and instead use the materials to build something greater.
Exactly. I completely agree. That's my proposal. I'm not saying this unifying movement would be reformist, not at all.

>> No.14279931

>>14278758
Science much like mathematics is mis-taught in many schools. If I had to sum up how it would be that these schools teach it in the "declarative mood" rather than the inquisitive. It's taught as a collection of facts or as repetitions of experiments without much asking of questions and investigating. Or in the case of math, it's teaching rote calculation rather than the more more involving investigations of universal patterns which is how mathematicians experience it.

It's hard to propagate the true essence of these fields to the masses as many won't pick up on it. So giving teachers the benefit of the doubt, I would say their only recourse is to export info dumps to their students and keep an eye out for the few who pick up on it.

>> No.14279932

>>14271486
Happy holidays!
Happy holidays!
Happy holidays!
I find you humanly!

>> No.14279934

>>14279928
Ah i see, then i agree with you.

This is an example of that convention is was speaking of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWe3rk7LzQ

>> No.14279998

>>14279934
He sounds so mad. The discussion has turned to such trifling matters as what pronouns you use because that's the only sphere they can have any impact on. They are so blind that they can't see how they are doing the bidding of their enemy.
I'm not surprised though, just look at US history and culture. They all use "commie" as a synonym of the most evil of ideologies and "islam" as a synonym of terrorism. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

>> No.14280032

>>14279998
And funnily enough the feminism, immigration and political correctness drivel is all the result of capitalism instead of Marxism/Socialism. Just think about who actually benefits.

>Feminism
The factory owners because they get to pay lesser wages since there's an abundance of possible employees.
>Immigration
Immigrants screw over the native workers by taking over their jobs since they ask for less pay.
>Political correctness
A class in revolt should be the ones to make controversial statements and challenge the status quo, while in the modern world the people who defend the current system are the ones labeled as "leftists"

>> No.14280041

I wish I appreciated my youth while I still had it. Wasted and underappreciated so much of it.

>> No.14280075

>>14280032
Yeah, what a bunch of clowns. The system couldn't care less about whatever rhetoric the political parties use as long as it serves to the production of more capital. Blinded fools.
Luckily more and more people are aware of this and the problems seems to be more concentrated in the US than in other parts of the world.

>> No.14280081

>>14278951
Anything specific to recommend on the topic of catastrophism etc.?

>> No.14280096

>>14279547
Curious, what do you mean?

>> No.14280101

>>14271486
Eh. Life eh.

>> No.14280102

Recently I've been thinking, what sort of woman marries an Elvis impersonator? How can the possibly be happy and fulfilled? Maybe they liked Elvis in their youth but there's no way that continues into middle age. Surely they are sick of it. Done with the sideburns and shit.

I wrote a sort piece about this image of the sad woman who married an Elvis impersonator. I don't know why I got it stuck in my head but I needed to get that sad lonely image into words. Don't feel like sharing it though really, unless there's some interest.

>> No.14280128 [DELETED] 

>>14280102
life is hard and some paths have less resistance than others, elvis' music is pretty nice too, and maybe they really dug elvis, and so its kinda like fulfilling that fantasy, like you must be able to imagine one girl from your generation marrying a justin bieber impersonator in a few years right

>> No.14280134
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>>14279932
thank you! and you too. hope my bros spend those days in joy

>> No.14280171

>>14279585
I can relate somewhat. I've already graduated and have a job near my uni, so I pretty much live near campus. I still go to the uni library a few times a week to read and study, but recently I've felt as if I'm in some type of arrested development. I'm doing the same things I've been doing in my undergrad, albeit now I don't have to be preoccupied with homework. It was exactly what I wanted to do when I was 18, walking through each row of books and look at everything I could read... if I had the time to. Now look, here is time, and the malaise. Now I have to eek out another 50 years carving wooden figures, or whatever other hobby I should take, and call it. Maybe, if I really want to occupy my time, I would become married with children, and sit in my dreadful desk job until retirement. I also find myself doing the same thing at you, staring at snowflakes, nature, streetlamps in empty parking lots at 12 AM.

Is it a sign of the times? our aimless youth? I'm not sure. I could be wrong.

>> No.14280200

>>14279585
based. you've got an old soul, a mature mind, yet your body is young, you're in your prime. how many wish for it when they finally gain the wisdom anf learn to notice the insignificant nearing the deathbed! rejoyce in what you do now, you'll have all the time in the world to recall it later.

>> No.14280224

>>14276820
lmfao simp back 2 /r/eddit

>> No.14280303

has anyone here published any poetry for money? I would like $100 dollars, of course who wouldn't like more, to give a poem or few I wrote recently to be published

>> No.14280324 [DELETED] 

>>14280303
I wrote a few nice poems recently, give me $100 for them please, thank you. I am the poet laureate of the world

>> No.14280373

>>14279585
>>14280171
It's nice to know that there are people out there who are experiencing what I am going through.

>> No.14280398

>>14271486
How the fuck do you write? I got to write this small creative blurp of a response, but I can't even think of a damn paragraph worth of crap?!

>> No.14280402

>>14280075
Whats the endgame of communism?

>> No.14280411

>>14279585
>Early 20s
>Feel old

Oh, you pretentious git. I'm 28, but I feel like I'm forever 18. Do something fun before you get old, you only live once, but you don't need to be crazy with it to have fun; to feel alive. Just don't start thinking you're set in your ways, anything can happen if you go out there and make it happen.

>> No.14280414

>>14280402
whats the endgame of not communism? Or even, whats the game plan?

>> No.14280441

I fall in love with a girl everyday, I am so tired of it. I can barely function. I want to settle down, and start up.

>> No.14280452

>>14280441
Have you tried talking to any of these girls instead of putting them on a pedestal?

>> No.14280474

>>14280402
Gulaging everyone that doesn't believe in Christian morals.

>> No.14280483

>>14280398
I dunno man. How does anyone do anything? The mysteries of mind's greatest achievements are veiled from us. An executable (in computing) simply runs its instructions. It does not have any insight into it. In the same way, when doing something we are not aware of how we are doing it. It just executes. Only in retrospective introspection can we vaguely reconstruct what we did. Except that these intimations are fraudulent, folk psychology laden. It is like the medieval smith who knew how to forge a sword, but had know idea of the underlying chemistry and physics.

>> No.14280486

>>14280414
Getting Rich and Powerful. Communism is just another way to get rich and powerful.

>> No.14280494

I just found out that Rob Zombie is from Haverhill Massachusetts. Lemme tell you I've been to Haverhill Massachusetts and this is not the type of person who typically comes from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHBtpqbOKXk

>> No.14280503

>>14280483
That's a whole lot of sweet nothings you said right there.

>> No.14280507

>>14280483
Stop watching YouTube.

>> No.14280509

>>14280486
Communism is supposed to be an attempt by the masses to protect themselves against the rich and powerful. In the same way many europeans fled the powerful rule of few, to america, the most basic idea of communism was for those who had the most in common, the masses, who were not the rich and powerful few, to basically have each others backs. And view one another with dignity and humanity. I think thats the most basic core premise of the idea. That the powerful do not care about the masses well being, so the masses should care for each other, as a world, a civilization of human humaneness was desirable to have exist rather than anything less

>> No.14280510

>>14280483
>>14279931
Ugh I wrote these two posts and rereading them i'm cringing at how tortured it sounds. I don't normally write like this but when I'm shitposting it comes out in the most autistic, stilted way conceivable.

> If I had to sum up how it would be that these schools teach it in the "declarative mood"
What?!

>. Or in the case of math, it's teaching rote calculation rather than the more more involving investigations of universal patterns which is how mathematicians experience it.
There must be a more compact and elegant way to state this.

>> No.14280513

>>14280503
>>14280507
How should I respect these insubstantial statements? The fact remains we don't know how our brains work you fucking idiot.
Shoot me something even remotely substantive before you type another braindead thing and make the world just that more of a shitty place.

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14280518

I wish I was holding you right now
in the way that would tell you
without words
time lost now found
how I’ve longed for
this language
right now
<3

>> No.14280519

>>14280509
Yes but in practice, it's just an elite few ruling over the masses.

>> No.14280524

>>14280513
How about you write something with some fucking weight to it instead of trying to sound smart at a house party?

>> No.14280535

/lit/ news!
>+++Local litizen admits his last read was finished 11 years ago+++
>+++Avid reader Emma Watson feels cheated after dating despite being self-partnered+++
>+++Swedish autist declared author of the year after creating mass hysteria+++

>> No.14280568

>Yes but in practice, it's just an elite few ruling over the masses.
But it has only been 'in practice' a handful of times, and are you certain the majority or all of those times were resided over by as you put it, an elite few ruling over the masses, was not for one of the purposes of using this very example of it not ever being practical? And where this might not have been the cases, the attempt to practice being disrupted and sabotaged by outer parties. So what is the meaning of that. A relative elite few rule the world and the masses, and no matter what the few will try to prevent the masses from sticking together and coherently using their power.

So to summarize, your 'but in practice' is not so much a criticism of communism, but of the non communist state of the worlds hostility toward the possibility of successful communism?

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>>14280096
Uff ta Uff ta ta
Uff ta ta Uff ta
Uff ta ta Uff ta
Uff ta Uff ta ta

>> No.14280661

>>14280568
How about this. You stop trying to be a romantic about a system of government that undermind itself? And no, it is a criticism of communism. There's always someone on the top. It could be a good person or it could be a person who's looking out for themself. Communism isn't free of this no matter what the ideology thinks.

>> No.14280678

Hello /lit/.

I'm having trouble finding a book that was posted here months ago. It was a book on Marxism in the 21st century and how the ideology was no longer feasible. If I remember correctly the cover was red and had a picture of a building on it. Cheers.

>> No.14280726

>>14280661
Im not trying to be romantic, im trying to be objective. I dont know much about the theory of communism but I dont like much of what I know about it. I think it may be peculiar why there is fervor for communism whenmoderate, gradual ideas of socialization are passed over. There are a few ideas in communism speak that really harsh the whole concept to modern minds, so it really isnt a smart tactic for I dont even know, who and how many tout this rhetoric, to so gung ho'ly do so. It seems strange how much, without my even knowing any of the true scale, just know there is some at all,academia seems involved in such literature,but maybe they are allowed to because that sphere of political idea is so far from being able to occur in reality that they kind of occupy themselves,make no real effects on the world, and believe they are working on the right path by most morally appeasing their guilty conscience, they are the custodians of the systems guilty conscience. If all those who read and write and teach about marxism didnt do that, what would they do? There are those that care about real politics, those that care about real possibilities of political change, and the theorizing and attempted sufficiently proving of the possible meanings of the possible natures of the possible conceptions of the possible good and bad of the world, the lack of politics and the abundance of politics that make it occur, and what changes might do what.

The average man must dutifully pay heed and respect to the system, because it is all he knows, and it is what bore him, and what he is made of, and what he makes, he cannot even consider considering anything else, he is alive, he has access to food and shelter, shitting and fucking, life and the world is perfect, but there is a difference between what goes on in regards to the average man, and what goes on on the world stage. And I think to be simply, when communism was being attempted, even if communism could perfectly ideally function, maybe more so then, it would be seen as a threat to the rulers, because, 1) it could entice members of their nations to follow suite. 2) the fear of an ununiformity in mindstate/ideology by the heads of state, would lead to fear of war.

I have not looked too deeply into these histories because frankly they are just too wild, seemingly absurd and baffling and I dont even know. But I guess the fear was that a communist country would want to attack, or couldnt be trusted not to, so you must admit there there was a vested interest from the powers of the world for any attempt at communism by a nation to not succeed? And possibly even knowing the lack of chance of success of communism succeeding, helped implement it, straight for the hardest stuff, overstepping the mellower socialization of some core companies, to use as an exhibit A for the history that would follow to show that "these crazy masses wanted no property and look what happened, never question the rulers again"

>> No.14280986

I'm fat as fuck and always hated sports but lately I keep looking at dance videos and try doing them myself and I really enjoy it.

>> No.14281019

>be me
>write short story
>people say it's really intense
>feel good about my writing
>submit it to a contest
>about 100 submissions and three prizes
>get to be one of 97 losers
>feel shit about my writing
Writing is quite a frustrating hobby. Even a mediocre athlete has more events of success.

>> No.14281039

in my early twenties i had a short story published, was a state level athlete, was on my way to a bachelor's degree with first class honors, and dated lots of women.

i am about to turn 30.

>haven't had anything else published
>... even though I quit sport to write more.
>dropped out of uni, with only one term left to go
>... after a mental breakdown following a break up.
>sometimes have one night stands, but won't risk another relationship
>too scared I'd kill myself if it went badly again, have PTSD

>> No.14281048

>>14280041

how old are you now?

>> No.14281079

I actually look forward to dying.

>> No.14281093

I’m planning on joining my country’s Army, but I can’t decide if I want to wait an apply to be an Officer knowing I’ll almost definitely get denied or if I should bite the bullet so to speak and just enlist to get the ball moving. I’m stuck in a liminal mental state and feel like I’m making no progress. Every wasted minute makes me feel miserable.

>> No.14281112

>>14271486
I believe all mankind should live in harmony and move toward our ultimate destiny: to exterminate all life in the universe.

>> No.14281144

>>14281112
Imagine being the last person who has dilemma over killing himself and fulfilling the task or continuing on and still dying but at the same time having moral victory over the cult

>> No.14281198

>>14281039
Hope you will get thorugh this, anon.

>> No.14281219

>>14281198

thanks.

>> No.14281301

>>14271501
Because what you believe to be good for you isn't what your body actually desires

You are either in a chronically stressed state (could be both physically from bodily inflammation or mental stress) so your body is shying away from activities similarly to how you act when you have a cold, or you're deficient in something fundamentally important like companionship or a direction and you can't experience anymore personal growth until you have gotten it

Your mind exists to serve your body not the other way around, keep your head out of the clouds and on your body (which is your entire reality mind you) and you'll figure it out from there

>> No.14281309

>>14281079
What's your discord

>> No.14281332

There’s no worse feeling than actually wanting to do something, but not having enough discipline to do it because it isn’t immediately gratifying. Discipline is the root of all virtue.

>> No.14281386

>>14281309
It doesnt matter. On one hand im afraid of dying as a biological being but on the other one atleast i wont be pathetic me anymore.

>> No.14281437

>>14280986
gonna make it. exercise isn't a major contributor to weight loss though, work on your diet and you'll get fit and healthy with little effort. go to endocrinologist if you think you're fat despite eating normally
godspeed, brother

>> No.14281439

>>14281386
I've spent most of my life depressed, I know how skewed everything becomes when you're in the pits and how deep it can take you

If you want to chat shit or just have someone to keep up with my discord is Kurtis#5182 brother

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14281470

It takes me significantly time to accomplish something than I feel it should, and at the moment of finishing something I feel like shit for taking so long. Not even the "at least I did something today" mentality helps. Just finished some work that took me most of the weekend and monday to do.

>> No.14281491

>>14274671
audible kek

>> No.14281615

>>14281470
the more you do, the faster you'll get. how fast did you expect to do this work? was it a realistic goal?
don't let your regret make you waste even more time, as we say in russia, the slower you go the further you'll get

>> No.14281634

I am consistently baffled at how little /lit/ took away from /fitlit/, and how much /fit/ took away from it.

>> No.14281864

>>14271486
What should I do? If I'm able to finish my bachelors degree this year, what will I do after my subsequent internship?
I'll most likely go for Masters, in an area that interests me more. And after that? What? As things are, I may have to emigrate to another country; like so many of my generation.
Or, maybe by luck and some 'unbiased' recommendations, be put in one of the State's Ministry.

>> No.14281938

>>14279928
>>14280075
Americanized identity polititics is quickly becoming a lingua franca amongst middle class would be elites, to the point it comes off as automatic, these are the things you have to say. I study political science at a major latin american university and I'm surrounded by middle class whiteish classmates who will always tell you marxism is outdated, vaguely gesturing towards 'race' and 'gender'. and any western literature is 'colonialist'(not that they read any 'non western' literature, either), all while getting all their politics from US media and thoughtlessly consuming 'diverse' US pop culture as it was free of ideology, and this is in a country where most of the population works under miserable conditions. Identity politics functions more as a 'gotcha', as a means of avoiding sincere engagement with anything and still getting to feel smug.

>> No.14281964

>>14281938
So glad Barnaul stands tall against this.

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>>14281964
cultural footnote, because i want to share this joke with foreigners. it stemed from pic related, a meme ridiculing "counter-woke" right-wingers for caring too much about the sjws and first world libleft, the future of western civilization and the like.
the response is "what libs, what sjws? you live in fucking BARNAUL!"
Barnaul is a shithole city in Siberia where nothing happens, also the name sounds funny, the joke is in worrying about poor whitey, their issues irrelevant to you, while living in shit yourself.

not that you shouldn't be concerned about world's happenings, but it's funny as fuck

>> No.14282157

>>14280102
sounds like the beginnings of a Palahniuk story

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14282230

I fucked up. What should I say?

>> No.14282240

>>14282230
she took the bait. You're obviously not actually "wild" about some online rando, begin a normal convo now that your foot is in the door

>> No.14282246

>>14282230
you say "CHING CHONG PING PONG TIANANMEN SQUARE 1989" then her Chinese handlers will send a deathsquad to her house to rip out her intestines

>> No.14282272

You say you don’t believe in God. That’s he’s not real
>Yes
Then what exactly are you refuting?
>His existence
But I thought you said he wasn’t real
>he’s not
So whose existence are you refuting
>God’s
I think you mean, you don’t believe in the idea of God
>That’s right
Ok, where is this idea?
>What do you mean where is this idea?
I mean, is this idea of God just in your head?
>No it’s in the Bible
Ok, so you deny the existence of God, which is an idea in a book
>Yes
So your arguing with a book
>No I am arguing with people who believe in this book that claims that God is real
So the people are real, the book is real, but the idea of God they believe in is not?
>Yes
So this idea of God is in a book and the people who believe it. Is it in other places?
>What do you mean?
I mean, what are you really disagreeing with? You’re disagreeing with an idea in a book, with the people who believe it. Are there other places this idea exists?
>I don’t follow
If you are disagreeing with the idea in this book, and the people who believe in it, I am
sure that you are also disagreeing with institutions that are established on the ideas of this book, the behaviors that are inspired by the ideas of this book, and so on. Is that correct?
>I disagree with anything and anyone who believes in God, who acts as if there were a God, so yes to all of that
And you disagree because you don’t believe God is real
>Yes
But this book, these people, these institutions, and behaviors inspired by them, these are real?
>Of course, or else I’d just be arguing with myself
But how can people believe in something that’s not real?
>The idea is real, I believe they believe in the idea of God, but as to an actual existing God outside of this idea, I disagree
And yet, you acknowledge the existence and reality of this idea in the things, the book, institutions and behaviors of the people who believe in it?
>Yes, ideas are very powerful. Especially the idea of God
Because it’s real?
>ideas are not real, they are just ideas
You are saying God is just an idea, and ideas aren’t real. So what exactly are you refuting?
>God
And the idea of God
>Yes
Both of which aren’t real?
>Yes
So you are engaging in a fantasy
>I am refuting the reality of a fantasy
But fantasies aren’t real
>They are to the people who believe them
Such as yourself?

>> No.14282312

>>14282240
How do I transition to that? She had that she's a lit major in her bio so I just wanted to say something cool. Can't think of anything clever to respond with.

>> No.14282337

>>14282246
Kek

>> No.14282339

>>14281987
the real criticism you can make of these people is not that they are radicals who threaten muh western civilization but that they are narcissistic petty bourgeoisie philistines with no interest or volition to actually change anything. they are even more unsympathetic if held up to their own standards

>> No.14282409

>>14282272
You fucked up from the first one.

>> No.14282450

>>14281048
24, I sound overdramatic I know

>> No.14282478

>>14282339
good point. most of those white race defenders don't live up to their own standards and can only call migrant workers slurs on the internet because they think it makes them closer to niggersaying americans.
i knew a nazbol who looked like a literal, not exaggerating, man from the Untermensch cover before he spent 6 months in drug rehab, now he's just fat and zoomer-looking

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>>14271486
I can't get over how soft her body is. It doesn't matter how much she works out, or does Pilates, or dances, or how "toned" a woman tries to be. It's as if god himself wants her to be this beautiful silky thing.

>> No.14282967

Wagecuck here, AMA

>> No.14282997

>>14282967
What's your occupation?
What books do you read?
Do you enjoy your job? If not, how do you manage with life?

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>>14282896
True

>> No.14283079

bros, i love imagining scenarios about encountering aliens and extending into space - not the pewpew epic or full-blown species war kind, but light and merrily comedic. even xenophobes will reconsider fighting upon realising how funny it is, and the first weeks of contact will be filled with laugher and joy, the wars will stop to celebrate, and we'll team up as a humanity to be peacefully racist to aliens.

>> No.14283121

I've recently noticed a pattern in my dream: (frequently) it's about reptile. Do you anons have any interpretation on this one?

>> No.14283152
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>>14282896
We’re all soft

>> No.14283154

>>14282997
I'm an advisor who helps companies manage their 401k plans. Right now I'm reading Hells Angels by Hunter Thompson. Don't really enjoy my job, but I've made some friends here. I just take it day by day. I'm unfulfilled (like most people here) but I also realize I don't do much to remedy that either. Its not because of my job, I have a pessimistic outlook on life in general.

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>>14283121
Spirit animal (subconscious) trying to tell you something?
Or do you have a phobia?

>> No.14283180

>>14283121
you can try to get lucid (upon noticing a reptile you'll realise it's a dream) and ask directly.

today in my dream I was reading a post in one group regarding some weird political change with a map attached, the comments under it made perfect sense despite the post being nonsense (mixed up names, medieval style drawing for an analytical graph, unclear happening pictured). can you bros read while dreaming? I've read a book several times in my sleep, but it made less sense than shorter texts, though seemed logical and beautiful

>> No.14283187

>>14283166
I don't recall having any phobia of animal or anything.
Perhaps it's related to fear since the reptiles I've dreamt are the scary ones: crocodile, snake

>> No.14283207

I've made it to age 23 without having more than a single romantic interaction with a woman, which was 4 years ago now. I loved her more than anything, and I would have married her in a heartbeat if she would have accepted, but she had a difficult life and couldn't accept. When she left, I was reduced to years of despair and loneliness. I didn't have any friends, and didn't even talk to a woman for this entire time until earlier this year, I talked to a girl a couple years younger than me who was giving a lecture on a topic I find very interesting. I talked with her, and we became fast friends, but I hurt myself by wishing for it desperately to be more, and I feel I've pushed her away with my emotional neediness. She's the only person I've discussed my emotions with in years, but she's so distant that I don't know if she really understands what I mean by them.

>> No.14283211
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I keep having such incredibly bad luck with women. I am actually reasonably attractive, or so I think. I'm relatively /fit/ and I can hold a good conversation. I just keep having fucking awful luck. Every woman I ask either already has a boyfriend, doesn't reply to me when I reach out to them, or something genuinely freakish takes them out of play.

The last time I was on the verge of actually meeting a woman for coffee, she came down with a terrible, long-lasting illness that kept her confined to her apartment for months, and I haven't heard from her since. It's like the universe is determined to keep me single.

>> No.14283235

As a shut in neet ive had a somewhat scary realization that I am old enough that nobody cares whether or not I live or die on the street anymore.
Also it feels like anything that I want to do is to far away from what I am capable of doing without giving up, just having thoughts I guess on what will become of me.
Any advice for dealing with these feelings?

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>>14283121
>>14283166
Shit. I don't even made this up.

>> No.14283273

>>14283235
minor farm work. for a start you can volunteer without pay for lodging, food and knowledge, and if you don't mind little spare income, you can keep it this way. virtuous and grateful option.
also, animal rescues for farm animals recieve less attention than pet shelters, help is always needed, and this way you'll do actual good, make frens and significantly ease most mental issues.
it's not all hard physical labour, you won't be too exhausted, but it teaches discipline&responsibility

>> No.14283745

>>14281301
If you don't mind me asking, how did you come to this understanding?

>> No.14283837
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14283837

How do I cope with
>tfw no gf
and the pain of having unannounceable unreciprocable emotions for someone?

>> No.14283907

>>14283745
You mean the evidence for it or how I personally came to these conclusions?

>> No.14283946

My extremist philosophic and political views have alienated me from just about everyone. I’ve unironically become the “tfw too intelligent for society” meme, except since I’m actually a retard I can’t even take any real enjoyment in endlessly reading old books or being an “intellectual”. I wish I was a vapid, marvel consuming normie, at least then I could make friends. I’ve been trying to chill out and at least stop having retarded shit like politics on my mind at all times but it’s hard going. Has anyone gone through a phase like this? I just want to be a somewhat-normal member of society not an insane misanthropic doomer caricature.

>> No.14283966

>>14283946
you need to be publicly humiliated and put in your place by somebody moderately intelligent, then you will be cured of your faggotry.

>> No.14283983

>>14283966
That might work but I’m a shutin at this point so I don’t know where I’d get the opportunity.

>> No.14284006

>>14271486
We're just the result of self-replicating molecules that gradually changed and created structures (us) to facilitate their reproduction. We empirically exist for this reason.

>> No.14284015

>>14283837
I've taken up reading, kind of obscure idk if you've heard of it or anything

>> No.14284040

>>14279585
Hey Tony.

>> No.14284050

>>14279585
>>14280171
>>14280373
>>14280200
look up gondola, i feel and am the same way. feels like gondola is the expression for this.

>> No.14284117

I have to write 7,000 more words in 9 days for uni finals. I just finished one 3,000 word paper and I'm pooped. I'll probably return to ask about interesting sources about epistemology or whatever....

>> No.14284144

>>14281470
I am like this also. I’m extremely hard on myself in general. Basically, if I don’t do something to perfection with relative ease and immediacy I beat myself up over it.

>> No.14284153

>>14284117
I wrote my 30 page capstone paper in 3 days including all of the research, I believe in you bro. You could always hit some addy if you need it.

>> No.14284360

>>14284117
Turn it up a notch and fire on all cylinders. Writing my thesis in isolation nonstop was one of the most invigorating experiences of my life I shit you not. Push yourself with a mindset of athleticism. Think of it as a war you must win. And savor your heard earned exhaustion when you place down the final period.

>> No.14284371

>>14284360
>heard earned
hard
:p

>> No.14284532

>>14271486
nigger

>> No.14284536

I wish I made more money.

>> No.14284588

It’ll always be “tomorrow” that I’ll look for a therapist.

>> No.14284604

>>14271486
I wish any part of magic was more than just LARPing. I peek over on /x/ and I see so much rampant actual schizophrenia that I'm always disappointed. Same with most forms of spiritual religion, gods, demons, angels. It all just seems like constructs of your own mind. The only time I ever broke out of that and thought any of it made sense was the first and only time where I tried weed and got insanely high. Finally I found the truth, all it took was bashing my brains in to the point of actual insanity where I'd probably believe anything anyone told me.

I can see the value in believing a lot of these things, from feeling like you have greater control of your life and the world around you to no longer having to fear death, but I just don't.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest, please don't reply to this telling me to go read the bible again because God loves me or something.

>> No.14284691

Not sure if I have borderline personality disorder or just a mercurial spirit. While there are some constant features to my personality I find myself liking one thing one day and another the next. Regretting what I once took pride in, repudiating my works and calling the good bad and the bad good. Some amount of change in the inner life is a matter of course it seems impossible for me to pin down a stable identity Quite possibly because we aren no more than a "bundle of sensations" as Hume put it. Or perhaps it is a product of this disjointed, formless world-culture. Or perhaps because I am unmoored.

>> No.14284704

I'm so well read that anything I say is /lit/-related, but dumb jannies are too dumb to make the connection.

>> No.14284714

>>14284604
>I can see the value in believing a lot of these things, from feeling like you have greater control of your life and the world around you to no longer having to fear death

Arguably the best (in terms of being useful or beneficial) religious beliefs have very practical benefits that extend beyond "feeling" you have greater control of your life. I doubt knowing this provides the impetus needed to practice these religions, however.

>> No.14284724

>>14283187
>>14283241
Right. It sounds like a regular anxiety dream. Maybe you feel you need to make a transition in your life or you’re have to and don’t want to.

>> No.14284729

>>14284588
goal of therapy is "functioning" anyway, avoid it like the plague. if the nail that sticks out is hammered down, therapy would be the hammer.

>> No.14284792

I've been getting fucked good and deep by syncronicity way too often lately. These coincidences are lining up in a way that makes me think the eye of the universe has fixed its gaze on me. I can list half a dozen instances in this week alone.

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Organized crime is interesting sociological phenomenon. When fully manifested, the mob can essentially become a shadow government. The key component of its power is the assertion of violence, which challenges the government's (law enforcement's) monopoly and therefore the order it consecrates. How much different, after all, is the mobster collecting extortion money from a local business at the threat of a broken knee versus the government threatening taxes at the threat of aggressive litigation or imprisonment? It all hangs on the barrel of a gun, literally or metaphorically.

The US government got quite involved in shutting the mafia down in the 70s and 80s, because they realized that if unchecked it would become involved in literally every aspect of American life. The mafia however had a persistent structure and heredity, and knocking out its key figures disrupted its hierarchy.

Now the most corrosive power of organized crime in the United States is the South American cartels, who have the advantage of operating abroad. If the US government had any sense it would send covert commandos to terminate these groups and disrupt their hierarchy. Which it does sometimes do, but it's harder and uglier to accomplish.

Criminality is in some ways an anarchic refutation of government and social order. Instead of going to your 9 to 5 like any other working stiff, you drive a car full of drugs from one place to another and make 10 grand. Or something else similarly straightforward and uncomplicated. The value is placed on the risk of it, just as value is placed on a heart surgeon for the risk he takes.

>> No.14284929

>>14283211
Something similar happened to me, but slightly opposite to your story. On my birthday this year, I wrote in my journal how I was feeling in general. Specifically in this informal status report, I wrote about not being ready for a relationship, lacking time to devote to a companion out of purely selfish reasons, and having no desire to pursue anyone until I've reached specific milestones in my life. A week after I wrote that, I met and began dating my current girlfriend. We sort of met out of pure chance as well.

I would say to keep swinging, but it is easier for me to say it than for you to hear it.

>>14283837
I feel ya, buddy. I've been alone for a long time.

>> No.14284948

>>14284912

> Power is always coercive le post.

Funny how this meme remains alive despite having been disproved in Philosophy of Law over 60 years ago.

>> No.14285015

>>14284948
>Power is always coercive
misreading?
>despite having been disproved in Philosophy of Law
what is this called, red herring or something, strawman? It seems you boiled their post down into an inaccurate summary and then attacked them and your summary, while not really discussing anything at all mentioned in the post

if my analysis is correct, why would you do this

>> No.14285047

>>14284948
I didn't say coercive. But it is the most primal and therefore the most indelible. It has been the only law in history only until very recently and even now we are always so many military miscommunications and accidents away from full blown war. Indeed today the chess board is full of belligerent idiots.

One less I would invite you to learn is that the primal is the most powerful. It doesn't matter how stupid or philosophically illogical. If I fuck you or fight you something very deterministic and inexorable is happening.

>> No.14285053

>>14285047
> I didn't say power is always coercive
I can't bring myself to proofread anything I post on the internet.

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>>14284929
I can't bring myself to speak to any of the women I find interesting. I spend SIX MONTHS thinking about a girl and I just can't bring myself to act on anything. I'm worried I'll never find love. I want a woman to just NHK misaki my life. Why am I like this?

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>>14279585
Wonderful words anon. I’m currently in my last two weeks of uni and we’ve had two snow days in a row. Other than hanging out and working on assignments with a friend tonight I spent most of the week alone in my appartment working on assignments. You are right though, it really is the small things. Catching snow flakes on my tongue while digging out my car, the small sense of physical accomplishment in clearing a parking space, or seeing Orion twinkle overhead on my way back. It’s shaking off he snow and lifting the warm cup of soup while watching a billow of ice crystals flow by beyond the glass.

But once, I was wild. Once I lived out west and hiked the San Juan Mountains. I slept under the stars and drank from the deep black meltwater rivers, teaching others to do the same to earn my bread. That was before I returned to school. I am only 24, but I long for those days again.

aho mitakuye oyasin

>> No.14285127

>>14285069
As unfortunate as it may be, with women it’s nut up or shut up and relationships are for closers. You have to push yourself anon. You can do it.

>> No.14285140

>>14285127
I struggle to put myself into vulnerable positions. I fear rejection and loathe myself.

>> No.14285177

I want to complain about my life, though I know that it's been incredibly easy. I feel ashamed for being ungrateful, but I'm comforted by knowing that it won't last very long, even if I die of old age it's practically nothing. Whether or not I am successful, unsuccessful, unfulfilled or fulfilled, time will erase me and any recognizable trace of me from existence.

>> No.14285212

>>14275497
>A dentist is basically a janitor of the mouth
hey. At least a dentist gets paid.

>> No.14285298

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