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[Anonymous No.14270635]

What are some arguments that are irrefutable ?

[Anonymous No.14270650]

>>14270635
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And,

You ain't got to do shit except live and die.

[Anonymous No.14270657]

traps are gay

[Anonymous No.14270658]

god is good

[Anonymous No.14270664]

>>14270635
Aquinas's proofs for the existence of God.

[Anonymous No.14270679]

>>14270664

[Anonymous No.14270686]

it is what it is

[Anonymous No.14270754]

2+2=4

[Anonymous No.14270765]

>>14270635
The evidential argument from evil

[Anonymous No.14270783]

>>14270754
>angrybetrandrussell.jpg

[Anonymous No.14270790]

Around blacks never relax.

[Anonymous No.14270832]

Wherever you go, there you are.

[Anonymous No.14270848]

Irrationality of sqrt(2)

[Anonymous No.14270861]

>>14270650
Based

[Anonymous No.14270869]

>>14270635
Having a daughter is as close as you will get to being the little girl as you can, at least during this lifetime.
>Even if you accept all the transgenderism, they start being the girls when they are not so little

[Anonymous No.14270883]

This statement is true.

[Anonymous No.14270885]

>>14270635
Being is. Non-being is not.
So there!

[Anonymous No.14270893]

[Anonymous No.14270904]

>>14270664
>I don't accept Aquinas' axioms.
Refuted.

[Anonymous No.14270907]

>>14270657
liking traps is gay, but they could just be into females making them straight

[Anonymous No.14270908]

>>14270883

[Anonymous No.14270912]

>>14270883
That statement depends on the law of non-contradiction, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.14270914]

>>14270885
Non-being is a way to be.

[Anonymous No.14270916]

>>14270904
>i don’t accept the definitions of words and how arguments work based on arbitrary grounds
Ok

[Anonymous No.14270918]

>>14270908
>>14270635
what can be accepted without evidence can be refuted without evidence

[Anonymous No.14270926]

This statement is false

[Anonymous No.14270942]

>>14270635
Your identity is an illusion of consciousness.

[Anonymous No.14270943]

>>14270916
>i don’t accept the definitions of words
Why should I?
>how arguments work
What do you even mean by this? Please elaborate.
>based on arbitrary grounds
Nope.

[Anonymous No.14270953]

>>14270635

[Anonymous No.14270954]

>>14270942
how do you have a conception of anything without identity?

[Anonymous No.14270960]

>>14270635
patterns are the result of mind, and are identified by mind.

one can identify patterns in nature.

nature is the result of a mind

[Anonymous No.14270963]

>>14270926
True
>>14270883
False

[Anonymous No.14270968]

>>14270926
https://youtu.be/8FayJrdnZN0

[Anonymous No.14270969]

>>14270943
>Why should I?
It’s the way people debate and share their own inductive knowledge, if you want that you must accept their definition. If you don’t then don’t.

[Anonymous No.14270978]

>>14270953
>what is original sin

[Anonymous No.14270991]

>>14270912
This statement is true or false.
>>14270918
The veracity of logical propositions do not depend on empirical evidence. They are purely deductive. They can be inferred from the relation between the meaning of the terms and the operators relating them.

[Anonymous No.14270994]

>>14270885
Existence isn’t a predicate, faggot...

[Anonymous No.14270996]

>>14270969
So you admit that his arguments are simply language games, only functional upon agreement of his own rules? Wonderful.

[Anonymous No.14271000]

>>14270991
>This statement is true or false.
That statement depends on the law of excluded middle.

[Anonymous No.14271003]

>>14270664
ok incel

[Anonymous No.14271006]

>>14270996
>So you
Dropped. Don’t Strawman next time. The rules of the world are not his own rules

[Anonymous No.14271029]

>>14271006
>Dropped.
Look at this faggot dodging arguments, how cute.
>The rules of the world
How so?

[Anonymous No.14271053]

The "Women are whores" argument.

[Anonymous No.14271143]

>>14271053
Based.

[Anonymous No.14271634]

>>14270635
All women are whores

[Anonymous No.14271658]

>>14270635
Capitalism is exploitative and profits are the unpaid wages of the working class.

[Anonymous No.14271710]

>>14270635
>pic related

[Anonymous No.14271721]

>>14271710
>implying it's OK to be white

[Anonymous No.14271731]

>>14270635
Accelerationism is the gayest and most coombrain philosophy.

[Anonymous No.14271826]

>>14270635
What simple minds Hobbits most have! Even if you coach raising a daughter simple in terms of selfish gain (a sure sign that any parenting you attempt is destined for failure) you are missing the most obvious gain of all. A daughter alone may have trouble taking care of her Father in his old age, but a daughter wed will surely bend the ear of her husband, and bring you safely under her roof. You will reap the harvest of a safe and restful twilight years, resting on the porch, watching the sunset, smoking your pipe, *smokes pipe and winks* and living in contentment. But what if you daughter is pumped and dumped, you may ask? What if she chooses to sleep with a Chad without securing a marriage contract? That is despair, but we do not live in despair. Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt. We do not.

[Anonymous No.14271857]

ur mom gay

[Anonymous No.14272042]

>>14271826
Unequivocally based

[Anonymous No.14272063]

A bicycle has two wheels.

[Anonymous No.14272064]

>>14270650
>>14270657
>>14270658
>>14270686
>>14270790
>>14270832
>>14270883
>>14270885
>>14270907
>>14270918
>>14270926
>>14271634
>>14271658
>>14271710
>>14271731
>>14271857
THOSE AREN'T ARGUMENTS, THEY'RE STATEMENTS, YOU FUCKING NIGGERS

[Anonymous No.14272096]

(P1)If tautologies are true, then tautologies are true
(P2)Tautologies are true
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(C)Tautologies are true

[Anonymous No.14272104]

>>14271003
volcel*

[Anonymous No.14272191]

>>14270635
cogito, sum.
that no one has posted the only right answer in over 55 replies make me immediately leave this board again. what are you all, brainlets?

[Anonymous No.14272201]

socrates is a man

all men are mortal
socrates is mortal

[Anonymous No.14272225]

>>14272191
How do you know that you cogito ?
>>14272201
Are you sire all men are mortal ? You've checked every last one

[Anonymous No.14272228]

>>14272191
The Self isn't apriori defined.

[Anonymous No.14272237]

>>14270908
fuck that's cringe
Fuck you peterstein and your pseudo intelectual hogwash

[Anonymous No.14272249]

>>14272064
An argument can be presented as a statement, mental retard.

[Anonymous No.14272250]

>>14272225
there must be something, no matter what it is, that is experiencing the content of my experience. cogito doesn't even need to mean thinking, it's enough to just experience and be aware of the experience. I don't need to know, I can just look at my hands to have experience. You can probably do the same, though I don't know about that in the strict sense, I'm just pretty certain (latter is Wittgenstein btw).

[Anonymous No.14272254]

>>14270918
so someone can just refute, without any evidence, the fact that I eat an apple this morning? Brainlet epistemology.

[Anonymous No.14272257]

>>14270657
Based

[Anonymous No.14272258]

>>14272228
it doesn't matter what the self is for the cogito to work you fucking low life brainlet. kys unironically.

[Anonymous No.14272259]

>>14270994
"there exists a prime number between 2 and 5"

[Anonymous No.14272264]

>>14271000
That statement depends on the law of excluded middle and That statement does not depend on the law of excluded middle.

[Anonymous No.14272362]

D1: Liking cocks is gay
D2: Traps have cocks
A1: Traps like cocks.
P1: Liking traps is gay
Dem: By D2 traps have cocks, and by D1 liking cocks is gay. It follows that liking traps is gay.
q.e.d.
P2: Being a Trap is gay
Dem: By A1 traps like cocks, by D1 liking cocks is gay. It follows that being a trap is gay.
q.e.d.
P3: Traps are gay.
Dem: The phrase refers to either the traps themselves being gay, as in P2, or in the desire to be with a trap, as in P1. It follows then that under both assumptions: Traps are gay.
q.e.d.
Cor: Women are also gay

[Anonymous No.14272476]

>>14270968
this is nice

[Anonymous No.14272518]

>>14270657
traps might be gay, but liking traps is NOT gay

[Anonymous No.14272603]

>>14270664
>proofs for the existence of God
imagine being such a retard that you obsess over the existence of something this much

[Anonymous No.14272631]

Nigs do crimes
Jews run for dimes

[Anonymous No.14272672]

>>14270635
Enough, Merry! I will not stand you accusing me of cuckoldry, not in the presence of my beautiful daughter, the light of my life! Has the smoke clouded your judgement, you poor hobbit? You're applying this whole "cuck" paradigm to every facet of our existence, as if men only live to be or not to be cucked, how sad! Surely good fathers do not raise their daughters be "enjoyed by other men", and they certainly don't, unless Dark Lord's magicks take hold of their senses, raise their offspring to please them sexually. Wake up, Merry, I raise my daughter to be a decent woman, worthy of respect and good life, and so should you! Stop visiting this 4Channel tavern!

[Anonymous No.14272752]

>>14270664
this desu

[Anonymous No.14272838]

>>14270885
sup parmenides

[Anonymous No.14272881]

>>14271006
>The rules of the world
Prove they're the rules

[Anonymous No.14272909]

>>14272096
I enjoyed this

[Anonymous No.14272973]

>>14270754
Someone needs to go back to room 101

[Anonymous No.14273267]

>>14270635
I'm.

[Anonymous No.14273299]

>>14272672
REFUTED
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[Anonymous No.14273466]

>>14270635
Christianity killed Rome

[Anonymous No.14273476]

>>14270943
He never even said you had to. You're just grubbing for an argument because you're an edgelord.

[Anonymous No.14273602]

>>14271710
Lol, it's all the same handwriting

[Anonymous No.14273616]

Any logical argument relies on unprovable axioms.

[Anonymous No.14273628]

>>14270635
There is nothing more cucked then having a daughter

[Anonymous No.14273644]

the earth is flat

[Anonymous No.14273661]

>>14270635
Seriously though, is it even possible to refute his argument?

[Anonymous No.14273890]

>>14272249
Arguments are statements in support of a claim, not just claims by themselves. Sure you can present arguments as declarative statements, like
>Tomorrow is Tuesday, because Tuesday follows Monday, and today is Monday.
but
>Tomorrow is Tuesday.
is literally not an argument.

[Anonymous No.14273935]

>>14273890
False equivalence. "Tomorrow is Tuesday" would be objective. No argument necessary. "Profits are the unpaid wages of the working class" could very well be an argument.

[Anonymous No.14273939]

>>14270635
No argument is irrefutable

[Anonymous No.14273945]

>>14273939
Any argument against capitalism is irrefutable. Capitalism cannot be defended.

[Anonymous No.14273956]

>>14273935
>False equivalence.
Doesn't apply.

>"Tomorrow is Tuesday" would be objective. No argument necessary.
Oh God...

>"Profits are the unpaid wages of the working class" could very well be an argument.
Yeah, as a premise in support of a conclusion. If your declarative statement cannot be rephrased as to include a subordinating conjunction, it literally is not an argument. Finish high school, you fucking mong.

[Anonymous No.14273963]

>>14273956
Sneaky.

Fag.

[Anonymous No.14273977]

>>14273956
Imagine actually defending capitalism.

[Anonymous No.14274609]

could you even think or comprehend it?

[Anonymous No.14274615]

>>14270635
You can count the number of consequential lives in the world at any given time on your fingers.

[Anonymous No.14274651]

>>14270918
If you have no evidence relating to A, you then can just as well refuse non-A 'without evidence'.

[Anonymous No.14274687]

>>14270754
>>14270848
as soon as you conduct the proof, all mathematical theorems are tautology.

[Anonymous No.14274970]

>>14273945
communism cannot, as it being systematic theft. you hating capitalism is prove of your brainwashing

[Anonymous No.14274982]

>sex bad! only I'm allowed to have it even though I never get to!

[Anonymous No.14274986]

>>14274970
>theft of your means of exploitation and thieving from others

[Anonymous No.14274987]

>>14270664

[Anonymous No.14274992]

>>14274986
>Seizing the means isn't theft
You literally cannot successfully argue this point.

[Anonymous No.14274995]

>>14270664
>Who is Immanuel Kant

[Anonymous No.14274997]

>>14274992
Its seizing the means of what the ruling classes use to exploit people not stealing your private property. If you aren't a capital owner you aren't losing anything

[Anonymous No.14275014]

>>14274997
But you are literally stealing the means from the owner of the means

[Anonymous No.14275039]

>>14274995
Ok. I'll bite. Who is Immanuel Kant?

[Anonymous No.14275071]

>>14270754
>I don't believe in the Peano axioms
Argument refuted

[Anonymous No.14275145]

>>14275014
Yes because exploitation is bad

[Anonymous No.14275155]

>>14275039
"I have found the corpse of God, but Kant's fingerprints were all over the murder weapon"

-Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.14275329]

>>14274986
>agree to work for certain wage using equipment and materials supplied by employer
WOOOOOWWWWW I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW EXPLOITED I AM, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? CAPITALIST SCUM

[Anonymous No.14275340]

>>14272603
>OP asks for irrefutable arguments
>Someone fulfills that request
>You go out of your way to attack someone because you realise that the implication of God's existence creates a moral burden upon your own existence

Seethe harder faggot. Stay obsessed with refusing God.

[Anonymous No.14275350]

>>14270635
All those which are true. They can be argued against, but never disproven.

[Anonymous No.14275356]

>>14273628
Solved long ago by the simple means of fucking your daughter.
Hobbit btfo.

[Anonymous No.14275406]

>>14275340
Aquinas was refuted ages ago retard >>14274995

[Anonymous No.14275436]

>>14275071
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentzen%27s_consistency_proof

[Anonymous No.14275793]

>>14274687
stoiclookingchadinprofilesayingyes.jpg

[Anonymous No.14275799]

>>14270635
The best you can say is
>This argument has not been refuted yet

[Anonymous No.14275804]

>>14275406
Implying Kant hasn't been refuted thus UNrefuting Aquinas. You are like a baby.

[Anonymous No.14275866]

>>14271000
I don't know what the law of excluded middle is, but I think I've been there on a bus.

[Anonymous No.14275872]

Hoes Mad

[Anonymous No.14275941]

>>14272672
>your daughter is going to be someones cock sleeve and cum dumpster
>you pay for it out your pocket
>not cucked

[Anonymous No.14276177]

>>14275941
This comes from your own view that women are cum dumpsters and cock sleeves. Sam is obviously planning to raise his own daughter to respect herself enough to not allow herself to be mistreated in such a way, but to find a respectable man who may treat her well and show her true love. Also, you are viewing life through an explicitly egoistic lens, asserting that all things that one does must, in some way, directly benefit them, and the sexual tone you put over it expresses your inexperience in the world, your lack to true social interaction, and your entitlement to something which you have neither experienced nor worked towards experiencing.

[Anonymous No.14276181]

>>14273628
see
>>14271826
>>14272672

[Anonymous No.14276194]

>>14271731
Based

[Anonymous No.14276454]

>>14270650
Based boomer

[Anonymous No.14276566]

>>14276177
Ah, the articulate white knight. Truly a force to be reckoned with.

[Anonymous No.14277791]

God and Christ exist
And Satan obviously so avoid him

[Anonymous No.14277862]

>>14270883
There's nothing to be true or false here, it's not a real statement it's just nonsense

[Anonymous No.14277871]

Abortion implies murder with almost no exceptions