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Name one cumbrain philosopher who has ever said anything remotely as profound as this incel
>ib4 Deleuze and Guatranny

>> No.14270175

>>14270164
Lenin

>> No.14270176
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14270176

Everyone on this chart.

>> No.14270179
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>thread posted by someone who has never read kant, merely instrumentalizing kant to make a COOMERS VS. BOOMERS: EPIC FAILFEST CRINGE COMPILATION #39 2019 [JRE] KANT SHAPIRO BTFOs LIBERAL HECKLER!!!!!! thread

>> No.14270211

>>14270164
Klossowski

>> No.14270226

>>14270179
How did you extrapolate that I have never read Kant?

>>14270175
Lenin had a wife but he wasn't a cumbrain he wrote extensively what would now be called "sex negative" theory and thought Freud was a charlatan etc. He only decriminalized homosex for political reasons

Also Lenin derived his thought from Marx who cribbed from Hegel who would probably not have developed his system of thought in the way he did without Kantian premises

>> No.14270239

>>14270176
Marx wasn't a cumbrain either (Engels certainly was) and neither is Chomsky (who is socially very lib but is on the record saying he despises pornography). Idk about Adorno but I would assume he was fairly prudish himself. Also Kant's 3 major works are on that list lol

>> No.14270266

>>14270239
Adorno was a cumbrain
>Adorno had at least two affairs with other women during more than forty years of marriage to Gretel, including a long-term affair with Charlotte Alexander during their years in Los Angeles,[1] as well as an encounter with a woman known as "Carol" which is detailed in a diary entry. [3] Adorno's biographer, Stefan Müller-Doohm, cites several additonional affairs, including an extramarital relationship with Reneé Nell during their years in L.A.,[1]:302-303 a lawyer called 'Eva,' and a family friend called 'Arlette' who travelled with them on holiday to Switzerland.[1]:62-63 Not only did Adorno write about his affairs and sexual fantasies about other women in his dream notes, diary, and in detailed letters to his mother,[3] Gretel Adorno was herself was involved in typing out various documents of this nature, and the couple did explicitly discuss some of the extended affairs.[1]:62-3

Also to OP Deleuze wasn't a cumbrain. Despite his writings and radical philosophy, guy lived a pretty normal and boring life and had a wife and kids. Deleuze was a nerd. Guattari was the cumbrain of the duo.

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>>14270175
Lenin HATED cumbrains.

>> No.14270282

>>14270164
Why should I adhere to the categorical imperative?

>> No.14270283

>>14270176
Marx and Engels used the word "lecherous" in the negative and as an insult. We can conclude they held hatred for those with low impulse control, like that one land lord of Marx's.

>> No.14270284

>>14270266
Damn didn't know that about Adorno but I've never paid him much attention

Deleuze is a cumbrain by virtue of being French in the 60s and 70s

>> No.14270287

>>14270164
Faggot used to jack himself off every night fantasizing about little boys
No wonder incel cucks worship him
We know your secret inner thoughts

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>>14270164
You can't. And Kant was not an incel.

>> No.14270298

>>14270293
There is no difference between Volcel and Incel

>>14270287
I actually jack off to femdom facesitting vids and audio files that make me feel like I have a gf but you do you anon

>> No.14270301

>>14270298
And you will never be anything at all

>> No.14270304

>>14270301
We agree on that

Now name a cumbrain philosopher as good as Kant

>> No.14270311

>>14270176
Nietzsche
>The reabsorption of semen by the blood is the strongest nourishment and, perhaps more than any other factor, it prompts the stimulus of power, the unrest of all forces toward the overcoming of resistances, the thirst for contradiction and resistance. The feeling of power has so far mounted highest in abstinent priests and hermits (for example, amoung the Brahmans).
Freud
>>14270298
An incel sees his condition as involuntary and hence still lusts. And from this we can assume other vicarious sexual outlets such as masturbation and pornography use. The net effect is that the incel is more similar to the regular sexually active person because he is suffering from sexual releases.

>> No.14270335

>>14270304
>>14270287
>Faggot used to jack himself off every night
Between him and Newton as incel excuses to breathe, you aren't making a very good argument, now are you?
Kant is an excuse, nothing more. For your inability to function in society. For every superstition that needed a spiritual excuse. And you call him 'good'. Only because you idolize.

>> No.14270352

>>14270239
>Marx wasn't a cumbrain either

That's why he was fucking his women servants non-stop...

>> No.14270357

>>14270311
Volcel is a made up condition incels who didn't want to accept their intrinsic unworth to society writ large created so they could feel like their mental disability was actually an intellectual advantage

Even Kant and Cervantes etc are still basically sexual retards and thus not valuable to society outside of their respected fields. The masses don't need literature or philosophy nor do they want it for the most part because it offers no actual advantage in getting laid(and thus perpetuating the species) 99 percent of the time (with that 1 percent being the off chance you meet someone within those fields and thus the net effect on larger social trends by any birth or relationship stemming from that is zero)

The only way art or philosophy actually influences the massescin any fundamental way is when it is part of propaganda campaigns being waged by whoever is at the top of the hierarchy at the time and in those situations it is usually after the fact or the respective intellectuals and artists are merely made into toadies for the State and thus lose their ability to truly call themselves such

Volcel is what happens when someone realizes their caste is that of the "residue" of actual useful humans(useful in the sense that they perpetuate the species and thus whatever State is in place in their particular subsection of general human social relations) propagating but they don't want to accept it because being an Incel in the west is basically the same as being an Untouchable in India

So they do this little song and dance where it's about morals and intellectual integrity when really every Volcel would cease to be so if their dream waifu materialized in front of them nude begging for sex

>> No.14270373

>>14270335
So you can't name a profound cumbrain philosopher

>> No.14270381

>>14270357
>Incels
Lose semen
>Vocels
Abstain from the loss of semen

Can it be any more complicated, retard?

>> No.14270398

>>14270381
Lol this is literally the logic cults use to get new members: "You aren't inferior you are just different! Abstain and gain true knowledge!"

It's really sad that you can't accept that you're just as much of a loser as I am. Good for you that you don't jack off but the net effect of your existence is 1:1 with mine you are still as useless to the world around you and will die just as lonely and regretful

>> No.14270409

>>14270164
Thats Jacobi

>> No.14270420

>>14270398
>Lol this is literally the logic cults use to get new members
Great strawman.

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>>14270226
You read too many dry academic takes and have no experience of life. Or you're consciously avoiding the actual facts of these philosophers's lived lives in order to build this autistic incel cope bubble around yourself. And it's inane to say simply because certain structural elements pass from one generation of philosopher to the next and beyond that they MUST share the same moral disposition; it's also inane to suppose a moral disposition that one can derive magpie-like from a philosophy exemplifies the actual or total moral disposition of the philisopher. Get outside; literally have sex. Nobody is more obsessed with sex than those combing through centuries of academic philosophy just so they can talk about sex, especially if they are "like, totally against it, I swear!" (The puritan has clearly sublimated their desire to obsess over sex into endless talk about sex being bad. Like a Biblebelt senator who gets caught in a motel smoking meth fucking black hustlers.)

>> No.14270432

>>14270420
You are the one who didn't argue against any of my points in breaking down the "volcel" meme so I assumed you didn't actually care about arguing in good faith or with effort

Also Nietzsche died of syphullus, insane, and thoroughly cucked by his BPD sister so who cares if he wrote nonsense about blue balls making you stronger

>> No.14270434

>>14270398
Keep seething. The fact that you are so upset right now and taking it as such a personal affront hurts you to the core because you know you're a pathetic slave that can't help but to touch himself and thinks it isn't impeding greatness or overall happiness. I am perfectly content when I abstain from masturbation and sex. The happiness men on the face of this Earth are monastics who have renounced the world. They aren't upset or miserable at having left foolish distractions behind.

>> No.14270437

>>14270428
>Get outside; literally have sex.
Lol why

>> No.14270443

>>14270434
>keep seething
So you can't refute my argument?

>> No.14270454

>>14270432
You had no points. You had 5 entire paragraphs of Bulverism.

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>>14270437
So you don't have to obsess about it anymore in this pretend puritanical guise and can get over your actual sex obsession. For fucks sake if you can't read Kant without thinking about whether or not he had sex, here's a tip: you're the cumbrain regardless of how you spin it.

>> No.14270472

>>14270464
I've done both and always notice a decline in mental performance for hours afterwards.

>> No.14270476

biggest fucking cope. do you virgins realize that you don't hold a single shred of semblance with any of the geniuses throughout history that also happened to be virgins their whole lives? you will always be pathetic.

>> No.14270492

>>14270454
>you have no points
So you can't refute it?

>>14270464
>>14270476

I already said I jack off to femdom porn and have accepted i am intrinsically worthless to society but im glad you feel like you accomplished something itt by telling me what i already know

Now name a cumbrain philosopher as profound as Kant

>> No.14270519

>>14270311
>The reabsorption of semen by the blood is the strongest nourishment and, perhaps more than any other factor, it prompts the stimulus of power, the unrest of all forces toward the overcoming of resistances, the thirst for contradiction and resistance. The feeling of power has so far mounted highest in abstinent priests and hermits (for example, amoung the Brahmans).
Based and Orange Fantapilled

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>>14270492
>I already said I jack off to femdom porn

Read: I have a twisted relationship to sexuality because I can't relate to it in a healthy way in any context, either sexually or intellectually.

Like, what, you think you've outwitted us by doubling-down on what everyone here knows: you have zero objectivity in matters intellectual or sexual (and they are so knotted up for you it must be quite torturous) because you are perverted for whatever reason (and the femdom part of it is the least of your perversions. Your obsession with Kant's cock is worse.) Get well, friend. Seriously.

>> No.14270606

>>14270164
Socrates
Porphyry
Augustine

>> No.14270611

>>14270606
>Socrates
Talked about the freedom of being unchanged by the mad dog of lust
>Augustine
Became prolific and known AFTER abandoning his carnal slavery.

>> No.14270621

>>14270611
>unchanged by
unchained from*

>> No.14270672

>>14270561
>get well
It's too late for that m8 otherwise I wouldn't be posting itt.

It's funny that everyone claims to hate incels yet when they encounter one they can't help but to stroke that savior complex part of their ego lol. You are just as perverted as I am just in a different way you think being a Christ figure is some kind of moral achievement

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>>14270164
OP is a faggot.

>> No.14270695

>>14270611
I kind of assumed from the OP that you meant anyone who ever had sex with a girl ever.

>> No.14270718

>>14270680
Except I literally said life is just a caste system and the best you can do is accept your place within it. How is that unprincipled?

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>>14270492
Read a book, faggot.

>> No.14270739

>>14270719
Not an argument

>> No.14270778

>>14270672
Huh, funny how you spin that in your favour so you can pwmnx coomers rather than see it for what it really was: I actually don't care if you get well or not. I was being dismissive while trying not to be unduly cruel to an unwell person. I can see you're loosing steam though, so I guess you've vented all that frustrated sexual energy in a powerful enlightened truly Kantian way. I'm happy for you.

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>>14270718
Fuck you man, you're playing the 'let's pretend this is Kant' game. Fuck you, and fuck that goblin.

>> No.14270830

>>14270778
>I don't actually care if you get well or not
Is this kind of like when non incels insist sex doesn't matter but then when you piss them off by pressing the issue they start making fun of you for never having sex?

>> No.14270847

You guys do know that the whole retaining semen is good meme has been thoroughly debunked by modern science, right? You might as well start talking about humors and aether

>> No.14270892

>>14270830
Not that guy, I would never make fun of someone for not having sex but I would make fun of someone for being weird. I know what you're talking about, and I think it's wrong to use 'virgin' as an insult, but most normies conflate virginity with timorousness and inelegance and that's what they mean by it.

>> No.14270911

>>14270432
>Also Nietzsche died of syphullus

retroactively refuted, it was brain cancer. a lot similar to your condition actually, cumskull

>> No.14270937

>>14270892
>hey man I'm on your side but normies are right when they make fun of incels for being virgins lol

>> No.14270950

>>14270381
What are you basing your definition on? Celibacy is not based off of the loss of semen. If so, then being castrated would violate celibacy, as the body has lost semen.

>> No.14270952

>>14270937
Despite all the alleged benefits of semen retention your reading comprehension is terrible. Why?

>> No.14271064

>>14270952
I'm the one who was arguing against the seen retention volcel. Also that's the essence of what you said, "yeah dude the normies are wrong but it isn't their fault it's actually still your fault"

>> No.14271099

>>14270164
Peirce

>> No.14271221

>>14270164
>incel
>In 1763 he was recalled to Düsseldorf and in the following year he married Elisbeth von Clermont and took over the management of his father's business.
Jacobi wasn't even close to being an incel.

>> No.14271228

>>14271221
Bro that's Kant

>> No.14271248

>>14271228
>https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Friedrich_Heinrich_Jacobi_portrait.jpg
>Portrait of the German philosopherFriedrich Heinrich Jacobi(1743-1819), erroneously identified as portrait ofImmanuel Kant(1724-1804).
How does the OP pic even resemble Kant? Kant was 5'2 and had a deformed skull.

>> No.14271256

>>14271248
newfag

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>>14271256
this is me assaulting your face

>> No.14271364

>>14271221
>Only one faggot here who even knew who the picture depicted
You are too good to be writing on this shit board.

>> No.14271451

>>14271064
>that's the essence of what you said
no it's not. normies are wrong to make fun of people for being virgins, but they're right to make fun of people for being graceless cowards, traits to which they unfortunately ascribe the term 'virgin' due to their frequent association. just know that when someone smears you as a 'virgin' it probably has little to do with your metaphysical status.

>> No.14271479

>>14270847
you do know that humors and aether were once held to the same standards of modern science today right
>inb4 muh proof
people thought that they had proved what they held as true before

>> No.14271485

>>14270847
[citation needed]

>> No.14271518

>>14270847
On the contrary, it affirms it. We now see that ejaculation produces a pro-inflammatory response, and we can see first hand how sexual arousal induces hypofrontality.

>> No.14271534

>>14270428
But semen retention is at this point my only hope of being successful. After exhausting all other avenues I feel this may really be the one simple trick to solve my problems. I understand “1 simple trick” usually prefaces a scam but here’s why I think this case is different, while ostensibly simple it is incredibly DIFFICULT to retain semen for as little as 100 days. Doing something that difficult must have psychophysical benefits, surely.

>> No.14271594

>>14271451
>they're wrong but it's okay

>> No.14271709

>>14270226
>How did you extrapolate that I have never read Kant?

Because making garbage threads like these goes against the moral law.

>> No.14272141

>>14271594
Enjoy your 50 IQ life, I won't be replying anymore.

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>>14270357
>a strong tradition of the greatest intellectuals in history is really just a made-up thing for a 4chan meme that began 5-10 years ago
Imagine being such a total lust driven and or materialistic fag.
This is literally the dumbest thing I've read on /lit/, and this board is filled with retardation. When did 4chan become so filled with brainless faggots who think they're some superior human that has a penetrating psychological gaze, when they have no expertise, reason, or evidence? You are truly emblematic of the foolishness of the self-styled psychologists here. The formula amounts to
>behavior/belief I don't like = cope/projection
>everything = Freudian psychological manifestations
Total falsehoods unsubstantiated by any hard data, let alone philosophical grounding. Freud was a fraud, and so are you.
>Even Kant and Cervantes etc are still basically sexual retards and thus not valuable to society outside of their respected fields.
What higher function does a bus stop prostitute with a whore's son have to society? By your bizarre principle, getting laid is all that matters, because it "propagates the species," which is useful according to some nebulous entity that's in a category that's provably relative and unpredictable in its interests (The State/Society).
And that itself is obviously false, because states and societies do honor these celibate intellectuals, and these individuals are regularly responsible for a healthier society. See pic related.
That bus stop prostitute is a net loss on society. She provides only a new vector of disease, a divergence from healthy reproductive environments, and the production of parasitic elements if she has children through her encounters. Celibates, however, have made some of the most sweeping and important innovations. People will read about Kant and Newton thousands of years from now. They will forget about the prostitute and her client who got laid.

>> No.14272893

>>14270164
Sade was the first Kantian

https://www.lacan.com/zizlacan4.htm