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1427009 No.1427009 [Reply] [Original]

ok i'm kind of bored of 'the absurd' ideas after re-reading the stranger, is this worth reading?

also the guy that recommended me myth of sisyphus, etc is fucking retarded. Catcher in the Rye is probably the best book i've read at this point in my life so whats good like that :3

>> No.1427016

i think the perks of being a wallflower is supposed to be very catcher-esque. have you read that?

>> No.1427023

>Catcher in the Rye is probably the best book i've read at this point in my life

Then you really need to read more. Either that, or you're an angry 17 year old who doesn't know any better...

>> No.1427025

I don't think you'd like it

>> No.1427028

>>1427009
There are some similarities between Nausea and Catcher, both have plots that don't really go anywhere and just sort of represent a portrait of a time viewed through some human lens. Both the protagonists are possessed with a sort of weltschmerz, but the nature of it is very different. Holden's is a classic middle class alienation, Antoine is obviously existential, the refusal to be tethered down to the world by objects and their meaning.

>> No.1427030

>>1427016
perks of being a wallflower *tries* to be Catcher though. so that makes me distrustful that the author actually achieved that & it's not just for teens that dont have a TV to watch skins. or arent allowed to.

>>1427023
tell me what you think Catcher is about wise-one.

>> No.1427033

I've read both and I thin Nausea is the best. It's just more interesting.

Sartre's works are in general better than Camus', imo.

>> No.1427037

are hermann hesse characters like holden or just druggy freaks?

>> No.1427041

Nausea is worth it. I'll warn that it's a total cunt to get into, but if you can manage it, then everything after around page 60 will be absolutely awesome. It's not so much about the absurd, though it does have a few pieces here and there. It's more about the distance between an object and interpretation of that object.

Anyhow, you might like The Bell Jar.

>> No.1427046

check out norwegian wood.

>> No.1427048

>>1427030

I think it's about 300 pages of a teenager whining about how unfair life is. And I think Salinger should have left philosophy up to the professionals.

>> No.1427049

>>1427037
what if holden wasn't a crybaby and was into eastern philosophy.

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>>1427048

>> No.1427058

What if Hermann Hesse didn't write novels about fucking himself

>> No.1427059

>>1427033
Any one of Sartre's plays are superior. Though I love me some Plague.

>> No.1427068

>>1427048
/opinion disregarded

>>1427041
bell jar is just about 'male oppression' no? im a boy.

>>1427049
ok well that doesnt sound very interesting.

>>1427046
no murakami characters are like you guys fucking weaboo scum that fuck girls that are nerd & you're just so c-class but you think you're a-class it's just disgusting.

>> No.1427081

>>1427068
eh. hesse is kind of fun. at least read demian and maybe narcissus and goldmund. if you like thomas mann or nietzsche you might find him interesting.

>> No.1427082

Just read some Nietzsche you lightweight.

>> No.1427088

>>1427068
>I have never heard of punctuation before.

>> No.1427094

Steppenwolf would be a great book for you actually

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>>1427082
WHY? is he like Catcher in the Rye? i cried during catcher & i thought i couldnt cry anymore.

i was thinking maybe to leave nietzsche until after reading all the republic tier of this list < ?

>> No.1427101

>>1427094
you ever watch that steppenwolf movie i recommended? about a week ago? max von sydow?

>> No.1427103

you guys keep saying demian & steppenwolf but what is the difference.

>> No.1427104

>>1427101
I can't find a bloody english translation on youtube, would have downloaded it but I uh.. forgot, thx for reminding me

>> No.1427111

>>1427103
steppenwolf is a more mature work. it's about a dude who is 48 or so and has personal issues. if he doesn't resolve them by age fifty he's going to kill himself. he meets a woman who...dun dun dun i won't spoil it. it's a weird book. don't watch the movie first. the movie isn't a good translation of the story imo but its still interesting. magic theater. for madmen only, brah.

demian is a coming of age novel. its beautiful though. not as stark as steppenwold but every bit as serious. i prefer demian over siddhartha as a coming of age novel...although siddhartha has more accessibility for sure.

>> No.1427112

The bell jar is more to do with depression than 'male oppression'

Steppenwolf>Catcher.

>> No.1427123

>>1427111
>steppenwold

oh noes

>> No.1427127

ok so steppenwolf i better for me than demian.

i might read it im not reading any fiction right now.

>> No.1427140

bump

>> No.1427527

>>1427068

The Bell Jar is basically the effect of putting a camera inside the head of somebody having a breakdown.

>> No.1427547

>>1427527
>I saw the days of the year stretching ahead like a series of bright, white boxes, and separating one box from another was sleep, like a black shade. Only for me, the long perspective of shades that set off one box from the next day had suddenly snapped up, and I could see day after day after day glaring ahead of me like a white, broad, infinitely desolate avenue.

>I saw my life branching out before me like the green fig tree in the story. From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home and children, and another fig was a famous poet and another fig was a brilliant professor, and another fig was Ee Gee, the amazing editor, and another fig was Europe and Africa and South America, and another fig was Constantin and Socrates and Attila and a pack of other lovers with queer names and offbeat professions, and another fig was an Olympic lady crew champion, and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn't quite make out. I saw myself sitting in the crotch of this fig tree, starving to death, just because I couldn't make up my mind which of the figs I would choose. I wanted each and every one of them, but choosing one meant losing all the rest, and, as I sat there, unable to decide, the figs began to wrinkle and go black, and, one by one, they plopped to the ground at my feet.

>I felt like a race horse in a world without racetracks or a champion college footballer suddenly confronted by Wall Street and a business suit, his days of glory shrunk to a little gold cup on his mantel with a date engraved on it like a date on a tombstone.

You'd like it, ty.

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Read more Salinger.

Read his short stories.

Also, The Myth of Sisyphus is great.