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Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:13:19 2019 No.14267665 [Reply] [Original]

Why doesn't Pythagoras get more love?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:14:17 2019 No.14267667 File: 38 KB, 640x621, beans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14267665

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:15:14 2019 No.14267674 File: 5 KB, 211x238, NPC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >OLD MAN PYTHAGORAS SAYS SEMEN RETENTION GOOD, WHICH DOES NOT COMPUTE, BECAUSE HAVE SEX.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:17:51 2019 No.14267690 >>14267674 sage wisdom

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:25:36 2019 No.14267726 >>14267667 Where is the upvote button on 4channel? I need to give you a thumbs up. >>14267674 Did Pythagoras actually support semen retention?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:30:49 2019 No.14267755 >>14267667 Underrated

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:35:45 2019 No.14267777 >>14267665 because Pythagoras was a stemfag

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:41:59 2019 No.14267815

>>14267665
Do we have any writings from Pythagoras himself or just his followers? The only thing I know of is the Golden Verses of Pythagoras (extremely based by the way), which the outer circle would memorize. I'd be very interested to know what was taught in the inner circle, as Pythagoras was an initiate of the Egyptian mystery schools.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:47:29 2019 No.14267837 >>14267726 https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/quotes/pythagoras-and-celibacy.htm

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:49:44 2019 No.14267853

>>14267726
>Pythagoreanism was the system of esoteric and metaphysical beliefs held by Pythagoras and his followers. Pythagorean thinking was dominated by a profoundly mystical view of the world. The Pythagorean code further restricted his members from eating meat, fish, and beans which they practised for religious, ethical and ascetic reasons, in particular the idea of metempsychosis – the transmigration of souls into the bodies of other animals.[96][97] "Pythagoras himself established a small community that set a premium on study, vegetarianism, and sexual restraint or abstinence. Later philosophers believed that celibacy would be conducive to the detachment and equilibrium required by the philosopher's calling."[

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:51:37 2019 No.14267865 >>14267777 Pythagoras was a cross between /fit/, /mu/, /sci/, and /x/, but if all those boards were actually good.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 23:51:46 2019 No.14267866

>>14267726
>According to Pythagoras (6th century BCE) sex should be practiced in the winter, but not the summer, but was harmful to male health in every season because the loss of semen was dangerous, hard to control and both physically and spiritually exhausting, but had no effect on females.[3]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:40:08 2019 No.14268091 >>14267815 Gnosticism/Neoplatonism is probably the closest thing you will find to the hidden knowledge of Pythagoras

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:41:43 2019 No.14268098 >>14267665 The Golden verses of Pythag are included in this sourcebook right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 05:27:17 2019 No.14268831 >>14267665 Yes I would like to see more Pythagoras on this board. He makes coomers and materialists seethe

URANTIA Sun Dec 1 05:54:13 2019 No.14268893
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>Some Medieval authors refer to a "Pythagorean diet", entailing the abstention from eating meat, beans or fish.[61] Pythagoreans believed that a vegetarian diet fostered a healthy body and enhanced the search for Arete. The purpose of vegetarianism in Pythagoreanism was not self-denial, instead it was regarded as conductive to the best in a human being. Pythagoreans advanced a grounded theory on the treatment of animals. They believed that any being that experienced pain or suffering should not have pain inflicted on it unnecessarily. Because it was not necessary to inflict pain on animals for humans to enjoy a healthy diet, they believed that animals should not be killed for the purpose of eating them. The Pythagoreans advanced the argument that unless an animal posed a threat to a human, it was not justifiable to kill an animal and that doing so would diminish the moral status of a human. By failing to show justice to the animal, humans diminish themselves.[52]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism#Vegetarianism

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 06:01:14 2019 No.14268910 >>14267866 >physically and spiritually exhausting, but had no effect on females Oh dear, poor Pythy.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 07:58:48 2019 No.14269288

>>14267865
>Pythagoras was a cross between /fit/, /mu/, /sci/, and /x/, when* all those boards were actually good.
FTFY. Pythagoras is an oldfag.

>>14268091
And Kabbalah. This is very seldom talked about, but the Kabbalah is not some ancient esoteric philosophy, like orthodox Jews and New Age-tards would have you believe. It’s medieval and has a great deal of Neoplatonic and Neopythagorean influence. This has been demonstrated with textual analysis by Gershom Sholem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 08:02:01 2019 No.14269301 >>14269288 Yeah Kabbalah is pretty good, but ive been told its not worth learning unless you know Hebrew? Is the westernised Occult Kabbalah worth looking into?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 08:25:18 2019 No.14269440

>>14269301
>its not worth learning unless you know Hebrew
I disagree with people who say that. You don't need to be a specialists in languages or philology in order to appreciate philosophy. We have a system in which actual specialists in the relevant fields provide peer-reviewed, critical editions of these works, with insights into the historical and cultural contexts, etc. Le original languages meme is a thing psueds say.

>Is the westernised Occult Kabbalah worth looking into?
Since Kabbalah is already a syncretic system from the get go (that was the point of my post), I think so, yes, if you're conscious that these groups have different takes on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 08:31:00 2019 No.14269471 >>14267665 >believing in conspiracies

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 08:31:02 2019 No.14269472 File: 182 KB, 1200x1600, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14267665 Because an*los don't have any translation of the Corpus Pythagoricum. Kek.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:12:08 2019 No.14270082 >>14269440 >>14269288 Sefer yetzirah is pre-medieval

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:20:50 2019 No.14270110 File: 504 KB, 1242x929, 732CD182-4CD3-4B9C-9186-A3063EE4B378.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14270082 >Sefer yetzirah is Not Kabbalah

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:21:59 2019 No.14270118 File: 1.08 MB, 1242x1925, 6158D04B-B68A-4360-A79C-D027F0F30B4E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14270110 Still syncretic and platonizing though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:01:34 2019 No.14270280 >>14270118 What about merkabah mysticism? Tho I sppose I agree nothing exists in a vacuum

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:15:04 2019 No.14270342 File: 38 KB, 311x499, C0F67EA4-D198-4CC9-BDCE-9054C1AC04BA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >kabbalah Start with the Greeks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:21:24 2019 No.14270374 >>14270280 >merkabah mysticism Important precursor

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:30:35 2019 No.14270430 >>14268098 Can someone post table of contents? Not shown on the google books preview

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:31:35 2019 No.14270435 >>14267865 >/fit/ More like /lit/

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:32:54 2019 No.14270442
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Reminder.
>Ancient sources disagree on how the Greek philosopher Pythagoras died,[12][13] but one late and probably apocryphal legend reported by both Diogenes Laërtius, a third-century AD biographer of famous philosophers, and Iamblichus, a Neoplatonist philosopher, states that Pythagoras was murdered by his political enemies.[13] Supposedly, he almost managed to outrun them,[13] but he came to a bean field and refused to run through it because he had prohibited beans as ritually unclean.[14][13] Since cutting through the field would violate his own teachings, Pythagoras simply stopped running and was killed.[13]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:43:05 2019 No.14270496 Yo dis nigga dislike beans haha

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:57:57 2019 No.14270590 >>14270435 On a technicality, he never wrote anything down.

>>	URANTIA Sun Dec 1 15:22:06 2019 No.14271443 File: 407 KB, 329x502, 87585859857858.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14270442 >>14270496 He was no BASEDBOY >>14268893 yet still advocated vegetarianism, what an enigma

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 16:33:15 2019 No.14271768 >>14268893 Pretty noble, but there's the problem of protein, especially if you can't eat beans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 16:37:49 2019 No.14271792 >>14268098 Golden Verses of Pythagoras for reference: https://sacred-texts.com/cla/gvp/gvp03.htm

>>	URANTIA Sun Dec 1 16:38:12 2019 No.14271794 >>14271443 lol word filter Pythagoras aint no S O Y B O Y

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