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[Anonymous No.14253725]

>boy1 grows up christian, becomes atheist.
>boy2 grows up atheist, becomes christian.
There's countless examples of these sort of events, now tell me who the fuck is right and who's wrong. Wait you can't because objective truth doesn't exist FUCK

[Anonymous No.14253758]

A lot of it depends on how hard the parents push it. I noticed that parents who are heavy-handed with religion (or atheism) often create the opposite effect in their children: their offspring grow up to wholesale reject it.

[Anonymous No.14254044]

>>14253725
boy2

[Anonymous No.14254063]

>>14253725
I mean yeah but there are levels of likelihood here. Like you can be pretty sure a pound of cadmium is a pound of cadmium. Just because you can't be absolutely totally and completely sure doesn't mean, like, oh no my butt is a lie and I just shit out my mouth and my fursona is real and he is strong and will pick me up in his strong wolf arms and marry me you dumb piece of shit

[Anonymous No.14254086]

Why is it obvious that he is a boy? What if he doesn't identify as a boy?

[Anonymous No.14254093]

>>14253725
2 obviously

[Anonymous No.14254144]

What about Descartes?

[Anonymous No.14254162]

>objective truth doesn't exist
Can somebody explain to me why this statement holds under any logic system?

[Anonymous No.14254294]

>>14253725
>you can't because objective truth doesn't exist FUCK
you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.14254559]

boy2 of course
t. boy2

[Anonymous No.14254638]

I think that the fact thay boy2 can become religious even though everything in today's world tells him othetwise is enough proof of the existence of God.
The will to take the path of religion can only come from God, since is its way harder and there is no benefit ( in this life).

[Anonymous No.14254680]

>>14253725
>because objective truth doesn't exist
I think you've become somewhat confused.

[Anonymous No.14254949]

>>14253725
Objective truth does not exist, all knowledge is based on sensory experience. Therefore people who believe in god have a soul and can sense his presence, people who don’t have a soul literally can’t believe this to be true or internalise it and will create some arbitrary argument accusing the religious person of being brainwashed, coping, or being literally schizo. It is literally impossible to reason with a religious or atheist person for this reason, both are operating on fundamentally different sensory data.

[Anonymous No.14254961]

>>14253725
Okay but Boy 2 example happens at a far lesser rate then boy 1 example. Its just all the boy 2's need to write a fucking book about it. Most boy 1's just dont say anything about it.

[Anonymous No.14255135]

>>14254162
Very well, actually. Any logical system is build on axioms, which ultimately are just educated guesses rather stuff set in stone.

[Anonymous No.14255285]

>be me
>grow up
>Christian schooling
>athiestic home life
>be agnostic
>become pantheistic
>mfw

[Anonymous No.14255745]

>>14253725
because there's no difference between the two ideologies. when you brainwash your children, they will grow up to reject it.

[Anonymous No.14255757]

>>14254949
>Objective truth does not exist, all knowledge is based on sensory experience

Is that an objective truth?

[Anonymous No.14255784]

>>14255757
Its a relative truth, but a truth nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.14255788]

>>14255784
It's rather tautological, eitherway.

[Anonymous No.14255800]

>Is there absolute truth
>No
>Is what your saying absolutely true?
This is the most rehashed , lightweight logical paradox that incel theists can come up with to prove God. Read a book you retards.

[Anonymous No.14255834]

>>14255135
>axioms are educated guesses
>an axiom how axioms are guesses Proofs with Certainty how Certainty doesn't exist
And your IQ is 89

[Anonymous No.14255843]

>>14255800
>butthurt he can't refute objective truth so ad hominem is his only cope

[Anonymous No.14255850]

>>14253725
You're right.

[Anonymous No.14255917]

>>14253725
>>14254949
>objective truth does not exist
lol

[Anonymous No.14256010]

>>14255834
Based but most truth is merely conventional, logic too simple to apply.

[Anonymous No.14256044]

>>14253725
Grew up Christian, became atheist, became agnostic, became atheist, became agnostic, became atheist, became christian, became Atheist, became christian, became atheist, became christian (now).

[Anonymous No.14256289]

Theists fear death, thus embrace fairy tales in comfort. Atheists are at peace with it. It is the only real and fundamental difference.

[Anonymous No.14256315]

>>14256289
Based retard. I was considering hugging paint to lower my IQ gradually into the dunning Kruger zone like you.

[Anonymous No.14256317]

>>14256315
Seethe.

[Anonymous No.14256571]

>>14256317
Have sex

[Anonymous No.14256725]

>>14253725
2,
The convinced skeptic is more convincing than a disillusioned believer.

[Anonymous No.14257872]

You're falsely confusing atheism (which isn't a religion) with Ultracalvinism (which is). It's denomination hopping, not a conflict between religion and secularism.

[Anonymous No.14257947]

>>14255135
Dumb

[Anonymous No.14258469]

>>14253725
For me
>grow up atheist
>parents are just culturally Christian but don't push it on me at all
>Not baptized
>Choose to get baptized myself
>Over a long time slowly start feeling more dejected and depressed
>At age 20 start feeling genuinely interested in Christianity
>Bought a Bible
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm based.

[Anonymous No.14258474]

>>14253725
kek

[Anonymous No.14258495]

>>14258469
The important thing is you found some way to feel superior.

[Anonymous No.14258496]

>>14253725
boy1 most likely turned because he realized he could smoke weed and have premarital sex.

boy2 was probably down on his luck and realized this gave him the strength to go on.

not going into the actual validity of either position but most people never make these choices under logical analysis, its usually through emotional need or what it has to offer.

[Anonymous No.14258597]

>>14253725

[Anonymous No.14258641]

>>14258495
Just as you did

[Anonymous No.14258830]

>>14253725
>now tell me who the fuck is right and who's wrong
The child who grows up either atheist or christian and becomes muslim.

[Anonymous No.14258866]

>>14254162
uuhhm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regress_argument

[Anonymous No.14258897]

>>14258597

>What is death of the author

[Anonymous No.14258911]

Quantum uncertainty teaches us that you can turn back time a million years, and then go forward in time to "now": you will not return to where you started.
The exact same condition, literally the same cause, won't have the same effect if repeated; not even if you can control time itself—the same past will not produce the same present.

[Anonymous No.14258913]

>>14258597
>someone clearly painted it intentionally to be a 6 or a 9
or maybe someone just drew a line that looped at the end like a turd

[Anonymous No.14258962]

>>14253725
reverse psychology

[Anonymous No.14259175]

>>14253725
So you think there isn't as a matter of fact an answer to the question as to whether God exists or not? That's a pretty weird position to take. You either get judged by God after you die or you don't, no?