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[Anonymous No.14249257]

This thread is for the discussion of texts related to Hermetism, Neoplatonism (in its mystic manifestations), Gnosticism, Kabbalah, Cabala, Angel Magic, Alchemy, Paracelsianism, Boehmeian Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry, Illuminism, Swedenborgianism, Mesmerism, as well as the more recent branches of the esoteric tree (Golden Dawn, Traditionalism, Blavatskian Theosophy, e.t.c.).

Recommend books, ask for recommendations, post nice excerpts, ask burning questions, e.t.c.

[Anonymous No.14249259]

>Essential Texts (Roughly chronological)
-Corpus Hermeticum (Copenhaver) [Hermetism]
-Enneads (Gerson) [Neoplatonism]
-Zohar (Pritzker) [Kabbalah]
-Theologia Platonica de immortalitate animae / Platonic Theology (Allen) [Renaissance Neoplatonism]
-Oratio de hominis dignitate / Oration on the Dignity of Man (Gaponigri?) [Cabala]
-De Occulta Philosophia / Three Books of Occult Philosophy (Tyson?) [Occult / Magic]
-The Hermetic and Alchemical Writings of Paracelsus (Waite) [Naturphilosophie / Alchemy]
-Aurora (Sparrow?) [Boehmeian Theosophy]
-The Rosicrucian Manifestos (???) [Rosicrucianism]
-De Caelo et Eius Mirabilibus et de inferno, ex Auditis et Visis. / Heaven and Hell (Dole?) [Illuminism]
-Mémoire sur la découverte du magnetisme animal (Meyers?) [Mesmerism]

[Anonymous No.14249312]

>Hermetism, Neoplatonism (in its mystic manifestations), Gnosticism, Kabbalah, Cabala, Angel Magic, Alchemy, Paracelsianism, Boehmeian Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry, Illuminism, Swedenborgianism, Mesmerism, as well as the more recent branches of the esoteric tree (Golden Dawn, Traditionalism, Blavatskian Theosophy, e.t.c.).

[Anonymous No.14249434]

Brainlet here, what's the relationship between Gnosticism and nondualism?

[Anonymous No.14249886]

>>14249434
there isnt really one

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.14249913]

>>14249257
>Golden Dawn, Traditionalism...
Sly alt-right thread

[Anonymous No.14250019]

>>14249913
Oy-vey, rightwing sympathetic mysticism!?! not on my watch!!!

[Anonymous No.14250073]

>>14249913
Retard

[Anonymous No.14250094]

>>14249913
I know you only read fragments of Epicurus, and I know you even think he was an atheist, but both Golden Dawn and Traditionalism are valid schools of mysticism.

[Anonymous No.14250111]

>>14249913
this has to be a joke

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.14250112]

>>14250073
Dude above you just said “oy-vey”

[Anonymous No.14250119]

>>14250019
>>14250094
he/she/it is equating the Greek political party with the hermetic movement

[Anonymous No.14250123]

>>14250112
He's right, what's your point? Someone must be paying you, you've been here posting inane bullshit and don't seem to have developed at all in the 5 years I've been lurking this board.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.14250134]

>>14250119
Different things? Fine. Forget it.

>>14250123
It’s insane to have never heard of this obscure thing. Hm.
And “oy-vey” isn’t out of place. Hm

[Anonymous No.14250144]

>>14249913
Golden dawn was an engish occult order before it was nazi greeks

[Anonymous No.14250216]

>>14250019
if groypers are any indication of the future of the right wing, everything that isnt the bible will be book burned. even harmless interest in hermeticism and mysticism will not be ok by them

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.14250230]

>>14250144
>>14249913
I apologize.

[Anonymous No.14250368]

>>14249434
>>14249886
I'd argue Gnosticism is dualist since it views the manifest as evil and theAbsolute as good, whereas most types of non-dualism views the manifest as illusory while the Absolute is the true Reality that transcends the manifest and unmanifest and is beyond Good and Evil.

[Anonymous No.14250376]

>>14250134
can you read?

[Anonymous No.14250471]

>>14249913
Butterfly you couldn't be more retarded if you tried

[Anonymous No.14250484]

>>14249259
Maybe links to download these books could be added?

[Anonymous No.14251721]

>>14249259
>Essential Texts (Roughly chronological)
-Corpus Hermeticum (Copenhaver) [Hermetism]
-Enneads (Gerson) [Neoplatonism]
-Zohar (Pritzker) [Kabbalah]
-Theologia Platonica de immortalitate animae / Platonic Theology (Allen) [Renaissance Neoplatonism]
-Oratio de hominis dignitate / Oration on the Dignity of Man (Gaponigri?) [Cabala]
-De Occulta Philosophia / Three Books of Occult Philosophy (Tyson?) [Occult / Magic]
-The Hermetic and Alchemical Writings of Paracelsus (Waite) [Naturphilosophie / Alchemy]
-Aurora (Sparrow?) [Boehmeian Theosophy]
-The Rosicrucian Manifestos (Godwin) [Rosicrucianism]
-De Caelo et Eius Mirabilibus et de inferno, ex Auditis et Visis. / Heaven and Hell (Dole?) [Illuminism]
-Mémoire sur la découverte du magnetisme animal (Meyers?) [Mesmerism]

[Anonymous No.14251758]

Stop talking.

[Anonymous No.14253136]

bump

[Anonymous No.14254273]

>>14249434
Gnosticism is by excellence a dualistic model.

The only link between Gnosticism and non-dualism is via their only common denominator (relatively speaking): Neoplatonism and the tendency of forming monadistic views on Divinity. Not all gnostic groups were that deep into mythology and seeing the Demiurge as an equal force the Supreme God - I'd argue most saw the Demiurge as a limited aspect of Divinity and not all saw him as absolutely evil as firm dualistic systems do (Zoroastrism)

[Anonymous No.14254664]

If all is the Absolute and one knows that beyond distinctions, why even bother with seeking said truth to begin with since there's no distinction without any difference, no reason to reason, no difference between knowing, knower, known, no separation between heaven and earth, then there is no hell in these systems, no falsehoods, no foolishness, etc. since there is no missing of the mark (sin) but instead, some truth within every lie, why bother telling others the truth when everything is right and true at some level, both the degenerate and pious are equally in the One, they are all right in their own regard?

[Anonymous No.14254768]

>>14254664
Because the lack of true knowledge about this makes you suffer DUH

[Anonymous No.14254955]

Anyone able to red pill me on George Gurdjieff? Stumbled onto this guy recently, having never heard of him before.

[Anonymous No.14254964]

>>14254768
Are you saying that there then is no distinction yet still have a qualitative difference? What kind of suffering you refer to, the suffering of this life, or the failure to return to the One?

[Anonymous No.14255213]

>>14254955
Bump for this

And can anyone tell me the benefits of studying Hermeticism?

Is this chart even good?

[Anonymous No.14255827]

So are the machine dwarves good guys or no?

[Anonymous No.14255929]

>>14255827
Those so called machine dwarves are what people unacquainted with noneucledian geometry tripping on DMT would say, conflating those psychotic visions as truth when it's just more illusions the brain makes against the mind.

[Anonymous No.14255980]

>>14255213
no

[Anonymous No.14257221]

>>14249434

It is non-Dual, Manicheans and Cathars miss the point.

[Anonymous No.14257227]

>The Lord of the Universe is not rightly called 'Father' but 'Forefather'. For the Father is the beginning (or principle) of what is visible. For he (the Lord) is the beginningless Forefather. He sees himself within himself, like a mirror, having appeared in his likeness as Self-Father, that is, Self-Begetter, and as Confronter, since he confronted Unbegotten First Existent. He is indeed of equal age with the one who is before him, but he is not equal to him in power.

[Anonymous No.14257279]

>>14249257
OP, you gonna make with some Zurvanist materials or at least Zoroastrian, or just cocktease with that Zurvan image?

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=389D009F8618379020AE60A6E178FF5D

[Anonymous No.14257382]

>>14257227
Is this an old translation of Plotinus or the Chaldean Oracles?

[Anonymous No.14257394]

>>14257382

The Sophia of Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.14257403]

>>14257382
Seems to just be another gnostic late 4th century plagiarism of true tradition... Damn shame.

[Anonymous No.14257419]

>>14249257
I went to a Rosicrucianism introductory meeting once and all they did was light scented candles in a room, had some kaleidoscopic/psychedelic projections on the wall in pretty colors, and did some lame guided meditation. And they kept stressing how they weren't dogmatic and accepted people of all creeds, genders, races, blah blah blah. It was a great disappointment.

[Anonymous No.14257423]

>>14257419
Ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.14258339]

>>14255827
>DMT entities
>good
>bad
Choose none.

[Anonymous No.14258409]

This thread is for mentally ill LARPers. ftfy